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General Discussion / Re: Why do we even need upkeep anymore?

« on: September 14, 2011, 11:00:54 pm »

110 wpf means a lot of paying for upkeep

I'll tell u a secret, I start every round with wooden sword, sometimes I play with it till the end but sometimes I pick someones MW Danish or German. I'm satisfied with my results, especially when I'm concentrated on game which I'm not in last few days...

Yeh I'm trying to raise it, I'm not 31 yet and I misplaced a bunch of points in 1 handers then later decided not to use them.

I've started doing that too lol, picking up mw flamberges

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we even need upkeep anymore?

« on: September 14, 2011, 10:47:24 pm »

Acera... I am also curious, the more wpf you have in a weapon the less chance of it breaking, so 1wpf will regularly break while 140 will only break occasionally. What wpf do you have in 2 hander?

I have about 110 in it right now, I made a few mistakes on the way up which I guess isn't unusual for a first character. After the advice I've been given I've ditched the danish greatsword for now and am using a long iron mace with tourney armor and a mail helm. So far I've made a decent amount of money over a few hours.

I'll admit to just being disappointed when I realized I wasn't going to be able to use my plate/big 2h very often.

Edit: The main reason I want to use it so much is for looks, I don't really care for having an advantage since this mod is a skill based game regardless of gear.

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we even need upkeep anymore?

« on: September 14, 2011, 06:57:01 pm »

Thanks and +1 for your helpful input

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we even need upkeep anymore?

« on: September 14, 2011, 06:50:34 pm »

OK I'll take your advice. The problem I have is that right now I'm not as good as everyone else and my skills aren't as high. So a lot of things one shot me when I'm not wearing plate. And It's hard to compete with the people that can afford to run around in high tier armor and weapons.

It's hard to get better at a game when you can't afford to make a single mistake when fighting someone.

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we even need upkeep anymore?

« on: September 14, 2011, 06:34:11 pm »

I guess I should use a club until I have 1000000 gold

Edit: direct quotation from tears' newbie guide, "If you are trying to earn money for something, try and keep your gear at about 18K to 30K in total cost. I find that keeping my gear between 10K to 20K allows me to remain competitive yet make a lot of money."

Mine's 17.4k and I lose more than I gain.

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we even need upkeep anymore?

« on: September 14, 2011, 06:29:12 pm »

I just don't see how I can even play if I lose money when basically only using my weapon. The total for the rest of my gear was 4 upkeep.

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we even need upkeep anymore?

« on: September 14, 2011, 06:05:04 pm »

I'm not trying to whine I'm adding my experiences to a topic that wasn't made by me. It isn't just me either, my buddy started at the same time as me and feels the exact same way.

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we even need upkeep anymore?

« on: September 14, 2011, 05:29:13 pm »

So I took what people have been saying into account and decided to play with cloth robes, a hood, the first gloves and leather boots. Along with my danish greatsword. Still losing money. FML

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we even need upkeep anymore?

« on: September 14, 2011, 04:47:29 am »

That's just the impression I got from other people's posts. Regardless of viability it's still a lazy way to balance something.

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we even need upkeep anymore?

« on: September 14, 2011, 03:47:09 am »

Then you sir, are forgiven!

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we even need upkeep anymore?

« on: September 14, 2011, 03:30:17 am »

Yeah later I said it needs to be actually balanced. As well as just monetarily.  But also I got to tin can armor in a couple of days playing a lot. That's silly since in order for the game to last a long time from a players perspective it should take more time than that.

Anyway yeh you didn't seem to catch my later posts about balancing the plate around it's speed when compared with that of light armor.

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we even need upkeep anymore?

« on: September 14, 2011, 03:00:49 am »

I know it already does that, but if it's still an issue just make it worse. Also, I understand what you mean about a medieval battlefield where only a few were knightly and the rest were peasants - but is it fair that only the people that played before upkeep and have millions of gold in the bank get to use the good armor?

I'm perfectly fine with literally gaining almost no money while I'm using my plate, and then if I do want to save some have to take it off and use leather. But not being able to use it at all or until ive spent hours playing without it doesn't seem fun to me - and after all isn't that the point of playing a game?

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we even need upkeep anymore?

« on: September 14, 2011, 02:48:53 am »

The only reason the lesser armors would be pointless is because the tin can armor isn't balanced. If the weight costs actually made a big difference then there would be a perfectly good reason to not be a tin can. For example, currently you need 16 str to wear the heavy plate. You need 18 str to carry a long bow. This means that a plate melee can if they want be basically as fast if not faster than a pure archer with a long bow wearing light armor.

The simple balance would be to make it heavier and therefore slower. Tin can doesn't make you invincible. Earlier some guy from a clan killed me with a club. /shame

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General Discussion / Re: Why do we even need upkeep anymore?

« on: September 14, 2011, 02:18:38 am »

Hi, so you guys are all talking about what it's like as a new player. I'm a new player. I started playing a few days ago and had literally just got some decent (and not even tincan) gear with a danish great sword and then I hit level 26 and I can't use any of it. I played for about 20 minutes at x3 multiplyer and lost about 2000 of my 16000 gold. The real problem, is that with the current way of gaining money there is a limit on how much you can make no matter how well you do so it's impossible to out weigh the upkeep. With the old system you could gain money if you did well and then you would be able to outweigh the cost of tin-canning.

You say it gives the game more variation. It doesn't. It makes it so that everyone has to wear trash armor and there's no point in the equipment system whatsoever.

 I don't want to wear leather, I want to be a knight. Why put in the plate and then make it un-usable? Learn to balance items around their stats and not just take the easy way out.

Make the plate armor/plated charger/etc much more expensive and remove upkeep. Otherwise - to me personally - this mod is broken.

(Oh and the guy above me is right, even when I do wear the good armor I still get mowed because I'm not as good as the vets)