cRPG
cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Punisher on July 06, 2011, 12:52:16 pm
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In it's current form, most skip the fun users are people who bought a second cd-key in order to use the skip the fun feature without losing their mains and since I doubt this was the intention when skip the fun was introduced I would like to suggest a new approach: allow one skip the fun alt for everybody, no matter how many chars they have but make it cost 100k gold to create. Every time you want to respec your skip the fun alt, you must delete the old one then pay another 100k to create a new char.
The gold is substracted from your main character. The 100k is just an idea, although I don't think it would be too expensive looking forward to the extra gold that will come from Strategus and a new cRPG gold sink might also decrease the inflation caused by the market.
In addition to this, keep skip the fun in it's current form - if you have no characters you can create a skip the fun char for free and use it as main in Strategus, so new players or people that only use the skip the fun character are not affected, but forbid usage of multiple cd-keys.
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Certainly, its more than a little limiting as it is now. i'd pay 100k for a skip the fun alt
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What about the people that deleted their gen 10 main to use the skip the fun, will these people get their char back if this is implemented :mrgreen:
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Disallow usage of multiple cd keys? I know several people that have multiple people under the same roof that play on two different cd keys, how are you going to disallow this? I like to play my friends shielder once in a while but mostly just stick to my main, why should this be disallowed?
Overall I like the idea but I don't see why it requires people only allowed to play on one cd key.
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I know several people that have multiple people under the same roof that play on two different cd keys, how are you going to disallow this?
It's pretty easy to spot the difference between two real chars and just another alt.
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Disallow usage of multiple cd keys? I know several people that have multiple people under the same roof that play on two different cd keys, how are you going to disallow this?
Pretty simple. If those two accounts that share the same IP address never play at the same time they more than likely belong to the same person.
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Pretty simple. If those two accounts that share the same IP address never play at the same time they more than likely belong to the same person.
That isn't a proof at all. Furthermore, many people have two computers so they can connect both cd keys at the same time without being two separate people.
And finally, IP adresses are dynamic for most private users.
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if someone is buying a second key to use skip the fun function he also supports developer of the game ;] especially since its made by not very big company
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Or maybe make skip the fun free but add a cooldown time for it. After you make a skip the fun character, you would have to wait for a week to respec it or something like that. It would prevent people from exploiting the system by making a skip the fun character for every occation. Especially thinking about strategus.. I don't want to imagine that there is armies that change their classes depending on who they are fighting against. This would be unfair against dedicated players and their main chars if cooldown time is not added.
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What about the people that deleted their gen 10 main to use the skip the fun, will these people get their char back if this is implemented :mrgreen:
Would the respec option already have been a big enough kick in the pants for you? I think your ass may be numb enough now to take another hit without feeling it too hard. I can't even imagine deleting a gen 10 for a STF account. With that kind of exp income, you could have been back to battle ready within a day even with the old retiring system rather than respec.
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That isn't a proof at all. Furthermore, many people have two computers so they can connect both cd keys at the same time without being two separate people.
And finally, IP adresses are dynamic for most private users.
And if there is two persons who play with the same computer, so they are not able to play at the same time.
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Would the respec option already have been a big enough kick in the pants for you? I think your ass may be numb enough now to take another hit without feeling it too hard. I can't even imagine deleting a gen 10 for a STF account. With that kind of exp income, you could have been back to battle ready within a day even with the old retiring system rather than respec.
I did it because i was tired of grinding back to 31 just to try another build.
Oh and i did it after respec was implemented so no suprises there, but if they implement it to alts that would be fail on my part 8-)
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Weren't we promised a free STF alt for everyone, with a 1 week cooldown or so? Also, about strategus, iirc, chadz had said that only mains would fight in battles.
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In it's current form, most skip the fun users are people who bought a second cd-key in order to use the skip the fun feature without losing their mains and since I doubt this was the intention when skip the fun was introduced I would like to suggest a new approach: allow one skip the fun alt for everybody, no matter how many chars they have but make it cost 100k gold to create. Every time you want to respec your skip the fun alt, you must delete the old one then pay another 100k to create a new char.
The gold is substracted from your main character. The 100k is just an idea, although I don't think it would be too expensive looking forward to the extra gold that will come from Strategus and a new cRPG gold sink might also decrease the inflation caused by the market.
In addition to this, keep skip the fun in it's current form - if you have no characters you can create a skip the fun char for free and use it as main in Strategus, so new players or people that only use the skip the fun character are not affected, but forbid usage of multiple cd-keys.
Dumb idea. Horribly expensive.
I have very little time to play, so I have a main I don't often retire and I certainly don't have a lot of gold.
I have never had more than 75k at any given time in my cRPG time (more than a year).
I use a second cd-key for a skip the fun character just so I can try crazy builds, other classes and whatnot without having to invest yet another 55-65 hours to retire and grind back to level 30.
I can play at most 1-2 hours a day, some days I can't even play at all.
I'm not hurting anyone by using a second cd-key and I'm not sure how it's any different from having an alt apart from the lack of grinding needed.
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Because buying another serial should not give you an advantage.
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Because buying another serial should not give you an advantage.
And it doesn't.
Unless you want to call "Being able to have fun with different builds without the need to grind" an advantage you shouldn't have in cRPG.
I always thought you wanted to create the mod in such a way it's not just an endless grindfest.
A skip the fun character can't use the markets, can't trade and you can easily exclude them from strategus.
What exactly is this advantage I shouldn't have?
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If there wouldn't be an advantage to it, people wouldn't buy extra serials for it.
That's the point. It allows people features just because they have the game twice.
This is why STF will either be allowed for everyone, or no one. Either way, multiple serials will be disallowed.
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You should take payment from Taleworls because you made them sell a lot of extra accounts :D
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This is why STF will either be allowed for everyone, or no one. Either way, multiple serials will be disallowed.
Keypoint here. If you don't want people to use the feature, then don't implement it.
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You should take payment from Taleworls because you made them sell a lot of extra accounts :D
But that is not the intention behind this I think. I was considering about buying another serial for warband when it was on steamsales for 3-4 euros. But I didn't because I don't like the idea of having multiple accounts since it seems unfair towards other players. I am not a Jesus when it comes to morale and ethics but considering all the pros and cons I decided not to get another serial. Multiple serials are going to be prohibited, and I like fair play.
Maybe one STF- alt could be allowed to everyone to test builds, but not allowed to be main character? That would prevent this multiple account exploiting to happen in strategus? And maybe the money your STF character gets in the start would be transferred from your main char?
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You know what would be nice that it seems many people want??
A TEST CHARACTER
- 1 Free test character per main.
- Insta 30.
- Can only be used in Duel or something?
This way people can make whatever build they want to test a new weapon etc...
(just realized odin already mentioned this idea...but i def think it should be limited to duel servers or something)
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Skip the fun was made exactly for no-grind requirement for strategus if i remember wrong. I do have extra serial, and i don't use if for skip the fun (ok, it's my brother account, but he don't play c-rpg currently, only PW mod, and i have ability to use it), not to mention that it's used on different rig than my own character (I also use it for the forum thanks to my laziness, btw chadz, it's possible to rename forum account or just delate it with option to create new one, or even without such option ? There are no such option in setting, and yeah, i would like to delate this account named urlukur).
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You know what would be nice that it seems many people want??
A TEST CHARACTER
- 1 Free test character per main.
- Insta 30.
- Can only be used in Duel or something?
This way people can make whatever build they want to test a new weapon etc...
(just realized odin already mentioned this idea...but i def think it should be limited to duel servers or something)
Otherwise good suggestion, but I think you can't really test some builds in duelserver whether they are good or not. HA for example. No one wants to duel a horse archer on duelserver :D. And furthermore you cannot know if the build is suitable for real battle since duels are definetly nothing like battle.
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I have a skip the fun to try builds and screw around. I wont ever try to use my other key in strat though. 1 player 1 strat char.