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Title: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Ming on July 05, 2011, 10:28:09 pm
Hi guys,

Im getting a new laptop soon, i really would hope to receive from comments from you guys first on various brands of laptop before i make my big choice on my future (gaming).

The budget is around 900-1000 euro. The size of the laptop doesn't matter. I looking for the laptop which can take a beating and also handles most of the current games decently. (ofc not as good as desktops but at least no overheating issues like my current ASUS laptop)

I would strongly appreciate if you can leave some kind advises here for me and everyone else reading this thread.

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Reinhardt on July 05, 2011, 11:07:41 pm
I was told to check this out... but sadly:



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Check out Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/

It's a good site for pretty much any electronic device.
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Ming on July 05, 2011, 11:10:37 pm
thanks Reinhardt :)
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Digglez on July 05, 2011, 11:18:11 pm
Asus, Toshiba & HP/Compaq make the best laptops as far as brands go.

I would avoid Sony, Dell & Acer, and any laptop with AMD/ATI hardware

Gaming on a laptop is fail
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Ming on July 05, 2011, 11:28:04 pm
Asus, Toshiba & HP/Compaq make the best laptops as far as brands go.

I would avoid Sony, Dell & Acer, and any laptop with AMD/ATI hardware

Gaming on a laptop is fail

thanks for ur reply. but the ASUS i have currently have overheating problems :( a friend's ASUS also have the same problem.
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Momo on July 05, 2011, 11:40:53 pm
Asus, Toshiba & HP/Compaq make the best laptops as far as brands go.

I would avoid Sony, Dell & Acer, and any laptop with AMD/ATI hardware

Gaming on a laptop is fail

Gaming on a laptop is not fail, I have a strong gaming laptop, and it's 5 times better than my shitty desktop. I bet you never had any positive experience with them. But I agree on that, that Sony, Dell and Acer are not the best but they have some nice gaming models too, their major problem is the epic overheating and shitty material quality. However I disagree on that, that he should avoid AMD/ATi hardware.
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Chazzer1 on July 05, 2011, 11:42:43 pm
what u got momo?
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Ginosaji on July 06, 2011, 12:21:38 am
I would avoid [...] Dell [...]

Wut? Dell make the best business laptops together with IBM. The consumer devices are crap, but that's always the same.

@OP: Don't play on a laptop. They're too expensive and you can't upgrade more than RAM and maybe your HDD. But if you really want to buy a laptop: the most important part is warranty. I only buy laptops with at least 3 years warranty, preferable on next business day (which means that I call the support line and on the next day someone comes to my place and repairs the laptop). And don't buy a consumer device.
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Digglez on July 06, 2011, 12:40:08 am
Wut? Dell make the best business laptops together with IBM. The consumer devices are crap, but that's always the same.

@OP: Don't play on a laptop. They're too expensive and you can't upgrade more than RAM and maybe your HDD. But if you really want to buy a laptop: the most important part is warranty. I only buy laptops with at least 3 years warranty, preferable on next business day (which means that I call the support line and on the next day someone comes to my place and repairs the laptop). And don't buy a consumer device.

Wrong.

1) cant ever upgrade video card.  most hardcore gamers will be doing this once a year to every other year
2) heat. video cards and high cpu usage generation tons of heat that most laptops cant deal with, they're not designed to handle that much on regular basis.  have fun with random lockups & restarts
3) you get less bang for your buck with laptops:  miniaturization costs money
4) shit for sound.  horrible soundcards and support.

Theres a reason why Dell lost their sales lead to HP, its because they cut corners and conduct themselves with one motive: greed.  They're a shitty company to deal with and fuck their customers on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Ginosaji on July 06, 2011, 12:51:18 am
1) cant ever upgrade video card.  most hardcore gamers will be doing this once a year to every other year

I highly doubt that any laptop with the possibility to change the graphics card costs less than 1000 euros.

2) heat. video cards and high cpu usage generation tons of heat that most laptops cant deal with, they're not designed to handle that much on regular basis.  have fun with random lockups & restarts

Don't buy consumer devices. The HP elitebook of a colegue got CPU temperatures up to 92°C, so that's a common problem.
Did you ever get your hands on a Latitude or Precision model?

3) you get less bang for your buck with laptops:  miniaturization costs money

Of course. But 1000 Euro is no big budget for a gaming laptop, but you can get a very decent desktop for that amount of money.

4) shit for sound.  horrible soundcards and support.

Never had problems with my Intel HDA soundchip. It's nothing special, but it's ok and 100% compatible with everything I need.

Theres a reason why Dell lost their sales lead to HP, its because they cut corners and conduct themselves with one motive: greed.  They're a shitty company to deal with and fuck their customers on a regular basis.

Maybe it's because I'm a Dell business customer, but I really never had any problems with Dell. Alienware is Dell too, though, and I would never buy anything from Alienware. Maybe we're just talking about different things?
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Lysander on July 06, 2011, 02:07:08 am
Hi.
I have a Lenovo (Y560) Laptop. Didn't find a game I couldn't play on it. I paid 720 € and I can recommend it.
Greetings.
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Classical on July 06, 2011, 09:53:37 am
Asus, Toshiba & HP/Compaq make the best laptops as far as brands go.

I would avoid Sony, Dell & Acer, and any laptop with AMD/ATI hardware

Gaming on a laptop is fail

Quiet you, all the companies you just listed buy stock components, OEM them, and stick them in a case and sell them for absurd amounts in terms of "Gaming Laptops". It's only worth going with any of them for some sort of deal that smaller resellers cannot give you, rarely will you find these deals on high-grade gaming laptops.

If you want a media laptop/desktop replacement that can handle games, look into the brand Sager, a derivative of Clevo products.

If you're in the states check out XoticPC.com, otherwise shop around for Sager or just look for Clevo products. NotebookReview.com is also a good place to get pretty well informed on mobile hardware, if you are looking for the best deal, the best mobile computer you can get, do some research on the hardware.

Class M products are tricky piles of shit, so read up.
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Timotheusthereal on July 06, 2011, 09:58:17 am
Go for Asus and MSI, Alienware if you have the bucks.

Asus G74SX (Battlefield 3, Skyrim etc runs fine) i7 and ddr5
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Classical on July 06, 2011, 10:04:42 am
Alienware if you have the bucks.

Don't ever buy Alienware.

Remember that phrase, and hold onto it for the rest of your life. Alienware's hardware is not up to date, sub-par at best, and it's a designer brand, at least they charge like one. You're paying seventy five percent of the costs towards the case and it's fancy lights, the rest goes for shit hardware that hasn't been updated for seven months.

Dell are bundle of stickss when it comes to this, and Alienware has to be one of the biggest laughing stocks among hardware junkies ever.

Don't ever buy Alienware.
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Ming on July 06, 2011, 02:21:57 pm
Thanks guys for all the suggestions. MORE MORE MORE~!:D
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Everkistus on July 06, 2011, 02:55:19 pm
I'd go with Acer, they make high-quality laptops. Especially the GPUs are often a notch up from the similar priced models of other manufacturers, and this is a thing that most gamers will appreciate.

People talk a lot of the heat problems in Acers, but it's mostly due to Acers being very mainstream, and the average user doesn't care much of the air intake possibilities of the laptop, so the computer can end up being used in a sofa or something where it doesn't get any input air, thus overheating. Keep it on solid surface and it should work fine.

If you want even better, get Alienware, it's well worth the money. They've got a long history of making laptops for gamers, and they're still the best in business. Plus, they're stylish, the LEDs and lights really make a nice impression.

If you didn't understand that I'm trolling, you're free to buy these brands. Both are shit.
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Ginosaji on July 06, 2011, 03:53:21 pm
[...]

YMMD :D
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on July 06, 2011, 06:01:25 pm
I suggest you the new Asus for gamers, they are a bit expensive but with nice config. Also the new ones have big ventilo on the rear, seems that overheating as been solved!
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Ming on July 06, 2011, 08:51:51 pm
I suggest you the new Asus for gamers, they are a bit expensive but with nice config. Also the new ones have big ventilo on the rear, seems that overheating as been solved!

Thanks.  Can u guys also send me the specific series of each laptop? or a link?
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: bhudda on July 07, 2011, 04:31:16 pm
I have a MSI GT663 (http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GT663.html) and it costed me around 1000 euros.

The one on the link sports the i7 processor but mine has the i5.

All the games i play has worked just fine, if the temp starts going up i have easy access to increase fan speed.
It has decent speakers, not anything like proper speakers but it's better then standard laptop speakers.

It's quite heavy, 3.5kg and kinda noisy. But overall a nice laptop.

I can recommend it.
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: mandible/splinteryourjaw on July 07, 2011, 05:59:06 pm
I think once you can get past the brand flamewars the single most important thing is to make sure you have a dedicated graphics card and not the normal crappy shared on board card.
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Louise_de_La_Valliere on July 07, 2011, 06:59:19 pm
I can play a game smoothly with this gaming laptop(TOSHIBA's QOSMIO FX/G7H).
However this laptop warm coffee and my room easily.
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Ozin on July 07, 2011, 10:48:35 pm
Good:
- Asus
- MSI
- Lenovo
- Toshiba

Medicore:
Lots of brands

Bad:
Acer

Incomplete list ofc, just from my own observations.
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Huey Newton on July 08, 2011, 01:20:51 am
I have a HP Laptop The model was from 2010
Its not bad on dx7
cost $800 last year

im sure you can get a good one from 800-1200
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: RagnarLodbroke on July 08, 2011, 01:38:04 am
I'd go with Acer, they make high-quality laptops. Especially the GPUs are often a notch up from the similar priced models of other manufacturers, and this is a thing that most gamers will appreciate.

People talk a lot of the heat problems in Acers, but it's mostly due to Acers being very mainstream, and the average user doesn't care much of the air intake possibilities of the laptop, so the computer can end up being used in a sofa or something where it doesn't get any input air, thus overheating. Keep it on solid surface and it should work fine.

If you want even better, get Alienware, it's well worth the money. They've got a long history of making laptops for gamers, and they're still the best in business. Plus, they're stylish, the LEDs and lights really make a nice impression.

If you didn't understand that I'm trolling, you're free to buy these brands. Both are shit.

if its still been possible to give +1 to awesomebar i would have given u 1 my friend!
Acer is probably the best laptops with the best quality! Atm im playing on a acer laptop, its 2 years now, no problems at all( Even when i spilled some beer on it :() The only thing i miss with the acer is the ram and the stuff inside it, theyre not putting too much inside theyre computers, i think they are aiming for better quality than better (I CANT REMEMBER WHAT THE HELL THE WORD IS, PLEASE TELL ME IF U KNOW IT).

If i have been u searching for a gaming laptop with a good Cpu, ram and a good harddrive i would stick with the Asus nowadays tho!
Reason: They are cheap, (And the word i forgot is supposed to be here aswell).
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Digglez on July 08, 2011, 12:15:09 pm
if its still been possible to give +1 to awesomebar i would have given u 1 my friend!
Acer is probably the best laptops with the best quality!

Acer put out such bad quality products they had to retreat out of North America for about 10 years and peddle their junk in Asia.  They have horrible quality products.
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on July 08, 2011, 11:17:37 pm
ALIEWNWAHHRERE...
Wait was that uncalled for?
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: RagnarLodbroke on July 09, 2011, 05:21:34 pm
Acer put out such bad quality products they had to retreat out of North America for about 10 years and peddle their junk in Asia.  They have horrible quality products.

If the trollbar have stilll been here i would have given u +1!
Title: Re: Laptop suggestion
Post by: Ming on July 09, 2011, 06:23:41 pm
MORE COMMENTS MORE~!!