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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Wookimonsta on June 27, 2011, 01:18:37 pm

Title: Unsheathables taking up only one slot.
Post by: Wookimonsta on June 27, 2011, 01:18:37 pm
My suggestion here is pretty obvious, make items that you cannot store on your person only take up one slot. Example is a pike, a lance or even a flamberge. These are of course large weapons, but you cannot store them on your person, if you want to use a different one, you have to drop it. If you have to move, it'll mean leaving it behind.
If archers bring flamberges, they drop em to shoot and get run off, they are left without their flamberges.

Apparently the slot system is to hurt the swiss army knifer characters. Fine, this suggestion will still nerf them. No longer can you come across an archer who suddenly draws a pike or a gigantic sword from out of his ass. He might have one lying around, but he will have to go pick it up or if he has moved, he has to look for it. This means it gives the attacker an advantage over the swiss army knife player. At the same time, it will make these kind of classes less mobile. An archer can now bring a pike, but he has to stay around it, or pick it up and carry it with him. This makes him much less mobile compared to those that are carrying a sheathable melee weapon instead. Maybe it would lead to more camping, maybe it would lead to more realistic playing? I can't tell, might be cool to see though.


This may seem unfair to polearms I admit, IRL you can strap a pretty large sword to yourself, but polearms are usually a bit longer.
Title: Re: Unsheathables taking up only one slot.
Post by: LordRichrich on June 27, 2011, 01:38:40 pm
+1
Title: Re: Unsheathables taking up only one slot.
Post by: okiN on June 27, 2011, 03:56:06 pm
Nah. This will just lead to all archers carrying long weapons and storing them on the ground while shooting. The current system is definitely better.
Title: Re: Unsheathables taking up only one slot.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 27, 2011, 06:15:33 pm
You, good sir, have been Ninjaed.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,9120.0.html
Title: Re: Unsheathables taking up only one slot.
Post by: Toffi on June 27, 2011, 06:27:47 pm
+1
Title: Re: Unsheathables taking up only one slot.
Post by: Erathsmus on June 29, 2011, 02:03:20 am
Haha, run from a guy with a flamberge, he just shoots you, and picks it back up.
Title: Re: Unsheathables taking up only one slot.
Post by: Joxer on June 29, 2011, 02:13:32 am
Nah. This will just lead to all archers carrying long weapons and storing them on the ground while shooting. The current system is definitely better.

Stationary archer is a dead archer. Not to mention the risk of having someone else take the weapon would be a big one. I doubt many archers would use them. This would mostly benefit infantry who start off with a pike or some other spear and then switch to bec or something.
Title: Re: Unsheathables taking up only one slot.
Post by: Chaos on June 29, 2011, 03:55:11 am
Stationary archer is a dead archer. I doubt many archers would use them.
That is not true, especially in groups. Archers tend to move in groups. Or camp. And not only would I be willing to bet against that second statement, but even one archer carrying a flamberge with his bow and double stack of arrows is obnoxious and unintended.

This would mostly benefit infantry who start off with a pike or some other spear and then switch to bec or something.
Which can and does already happen.
Title: Re: Unsheathables taking up only one slot.
Post by: MouthnHoof on June 29, 2011, 11:57:34 am
Nah. This will just lead to all archers carrying long weapons and storing them on the ground while shooting. The current system is definitely better.
I don't have enough time to heirloom my weapons. If you leave a good weapon on the ground I WILL take it.

Also, the picking up speed is slow: and archer that was pointing at a charging guy and trying to do archery things will have to find the weapon on the ground, point accurately to get the pickup label and hit F, then there is a drawing animation and he can start fighting from a stand still. If the archer is willing to spend 2-3 seconds to get his melee weapon from the ground instead of shooting me from 5 meters range, I heartily accept the tradeoff.
Title: Re: Unsheathables taking up only one slot.
Post by: Wookimonsta on June 29, 2011, 10:55:26 pm
I don't have enough time to heirloom my weapons. If you leave a good weapon on the ground I WILL take it.

Also, the picking up speed is slow: and archer that was pointing at a charging guy and trying to do archery things will have to find the weapon on the ground, point accurately to get the pickup label and hit F, then there is a drawing animation and he can start fighting from a stand still. If the archer is willing to spend 2-3 seconds to get his melee weapon from the ground instead of shooting me from 5 meters range, I heartily accept the tradeoff.

this is what im going for
Title: Re: Unsheathables taking up only one slot.
Post by: Glyph on June 29, 2011, 11:05:50 pm
Good idea, though then you can have a poleaxe, shield, lance combi on horseback again. But i like it. +1!
Title: Re: Unsheathables taking up only one slot.
Post by: Tristan on June 30, 2011, 12:17:27 am
It gets a problem with cav.

Suddenly they can have both lance, large shields and sword. No, no no.

so def.

-1
Title: Re: Unsheathables taking up only one slot.
Post by: Kafein on June 30, 2011, 01:40:49 am
It gets a problem with cav.

Suddenly they can have both lance, large shields and sword. No, no no.

so def.

-1

This. A pole/1h cav should take a horseman shield.
Title: Re: Unsheathables taking up only one slot.
Post by: Thomek on June 30, 2011, 02:29:07 am
Cav can take bigger swords as well as shield and lances..
Title: Re: Unsheathables taking up only one slot.
Post by: Wookimonsta on June 30, 2011, 09:58:23 am
well, small shield + lance and one big sword, perhaps more of the bigger swords shouldnt be useable on horseback? I know my danish great isnt. Same for non-horsemen shield?
Title: Re: Unsheathables taking up only one slot.
Post by: MouthnHoof on June 30, 2011, 11:57:20 am
Good idea, though then you can have a poleaxe, shield, lance combi on horseback again. But i like it. +1!
The poleaxes should be unsheathable.

Suddenly they can have both lance, large shields and sword. No, no no.
The way to solve the large shields issue is to make them unusable from horseback, not to mess with the number of slots they take. If they should be able to be used on horses they I do not see the problem. Lance+cav shield+1H is a perfectly reasonable setup isn't it? I am one of the largest horse eaters... I mean haters.