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cRPG => Ban/Unban Requests => Closed Requests => Topic started by: Sarosu on June 25, 2011, 02:32:01 am
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A guy called Wesemlin and some other guy from risen was trolling on this server earlier. It was not very populated, but still...
When I first entered the server, they were telling me that I was a poor cav and such, even though I am, its not a nice thing to say.
Later, in the next map, Wesemlin intentionally teamkillid med with his throwing stones. He made a troll character made for throwing stones I guess. At least, he knew they hurt alot, since he had killed with them earlier. I told him to stop after the first 4 stones, but he kept on throwing them at me. I called an a selfish prick or something, and he teamkilled me, totally intentional. He then pretended it wasnt, but it clearly was. Even though the risen member he was trolling with, played along.
The following rounds he ran around delaying and boring everyone.
He was clearly being a douchebag, because he saw no risk in doing it. He knew there was no possibility for a punishment, so he just acted like a dick. Thought I'd report it anyway, because I think guys like this should be banned.
I have screenshot of him running away, teamkilling and the logs, but you have the logs yourself I think, so no need to post them.
http://imageshack.us/g/856/2011062500001.jpg/
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Also ban polled me.
More screenshots:
http://imageshack.us/g/835/2011062500006.jpg/
Clearly showing that he did not just miss the guy, and was indeed aiming for me/my horse. Also that the risen guy was trolling with him, as they were coorperating even though they were in different teams.
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While I have no idea who Wesemlin is but I will have a talk with Vilhelm about proper behaviour. Thanks for bringing this up and I'm sorry for how he behaved.
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You need to realise that we had been playing alone for maybe two hours. Teamkilling eachother constantly and not playing seriously. Since we were mostly able to defeat the enemies using only stones as melee weapons you can see why we were not taking the battle so seriously. And since nobody was earning any multiplicator, it shouldent really matter if we are teamkilling right? Infact all 3 people except for you were joking around, while you were playing seriously. As i can recall wesemelin called you a bad cavalry once or twice? That was obviously not nice, and i did not do it because of that reason.
What i think happened was you missread the situation a bit, as did we.
Also, about the ban poll. As far as i know they only last for one hour right? If they dont then that was pretty stupid of us.
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Your explanation does not justify your behaviour. You're speaking on behalf of someone you do know. Even if you knew them, you could not possibly speak on their behalf. At some rounds there was a multiplier. And even if there were none, you should still follow rules and dont be a dick, even if you and some other guy on the server think it is okay.
Imagine the situation that half the population of a server thinks that all black people should be banned. Imagine you are black. Imagine you got banned just because you were black. The majority thinks of the server think that is the right decision, but does that make it right? No. Follow the rules, even if you do not agree with them. If you wanna rebel against them, you should stick with it and take the punishment and quit the excuses.
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The rules are not designed for a situation where no multiplier can be gained and the teams are ridicolusly imbalanced. IMHO i was not a dick, i never insulted you. Infact i never teamkilled you either, i think the one you are most annoyed at is Wesemelin and i have said what i need to.
If i was to draw an analogy like you did, it would be like 3 people practicing penalty shots on the school field. And then a fourth person comes and complains that scoring in your own goal is against the rules.
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So you're the one to decide the rules now, are you? Where does it say in the rules that the rules does not imply when there are no multiplier?
It is nothing like that. As there is some rules on the server that should be followed in order to play on it, which there isnt on a school playground. There isnt a rule on a school playground that you cant take practise shots. However, there is a rule, that you cannot beat up any other person. If following your example, what you did would be like beating up that 4th guy. Everyone is welcome on the playground, you do not own it, and you do not make the rules, just because you are superiour in numbers. Bullies...
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This report is so banale that i won even honor it by responding anymore. I think you need to work on your sense of humour.
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So you're the one to decide the rules now, are you? Where does it say in the rules that the rules does not imply when there are no multiplier?
It is nothing like that. As there is some rules on the server that should be followed in order to play on it, which there isnt on a school playground. There isnt a rule on a school playground that you cant take practise shots. However, there is a rule, that you cannot beat up any other person. If following your example, what you did would be like beating up that 4th guy. Everyone is welcome on the playground, you do not own it, and you do not make the rules, just because you are superiour in numbers. Bullies...
What does this mean? :|
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The rules are not designed for a situation where no multiplier can be gained and the teams are ridicolusly imbalanced. IMHO i was not a dick, i never insulted you. Infact i never teamkilled you either, i think the one you are most annoyed at is Wesemelin and i have said what i need to.
If i was to draw an analogy like you did, it would be like 3 people practicing penalty shots on the school field. And then a fourth person comes and complains that scoring in your own goal is against the rules.
The rules are the rules, breaking them is bannable irrelevant of the context.
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The rules are the rules, breaking them is bannable irrelevant of the context.
Well, the reason that is true is because it is without video proof impossible to prove the context of the rule break. I respect that, but at the same time this guy is taking this way too seriously. What happened there was nothing out of the ordinary, and just me and two other players having fun on an almost empty server. ( By that i mean empty except for Sarpsu)
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That is not true. It was not empty. There were more than us 3. Quit the bullshitting.
and nothing out of the ordinary? So going around teamkilling your teammates with stones is the ordinary? Sorry that I do not get your humor.
If I were an admin, would you have treated me the same way? If there was an admin present would you treat me the same way? I think not. Truth is what you did was being a dick, and you know it.
You only follow rules when ad admin is around?
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That is not true. It was not empty. There were more than us 3. Quit the bullshitting.
and nothing out of the ordinary? So going around teamkilling your teammates with stones is the ordinary? Sorry that I do not get your humor.
If I were an admin, would you have treated me the same way? If there was an admin present would you treat me the same way? I think not. Truth is what you did was being a dick, and you know it.
You only follow rules when ad admin is around?
Calling me a dick on false basis wont exactly strenghten your case. Never did i insult, nor teamkill you. Secondly the server was pretty much empty, there was me Wesemelin and a peasant archer, and we had all been playing for a long time. .
If an admin was present i think he wouldave laughed along with us because this was in the middle of the night, and i can guarantee every single person on the server except you were having a good time playing.
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Did Vilhelm do anything at all that was not allowed? The only thing you have said he did was calling you names and he said that that was a bad thing to do. The only one you have anything is Wesemlin and so I can't see why you are accusing Vilhelm for breaking the rules. Did he teamkill you? Do you have any screens of that? Also if someone makes a ban poll and it passes then you must have done something people didn't like.
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Did Vilhelm do anything at all that was not allowed? The only thing you have said he did was calling you names and he said that that was a bad thing to do. The only one you have anything is Wesemlin and so I can't see why you are accusing Vilhelm for breaking the rules. Did he teamkill you? Do you have any screens of that? Also if someone makes a ban poll and it passes then you must have done something people didn't like.
He assisted the enemy team, like not killing that guy. He also teamkilled on purpose, not me though but that other guy. So yes, he did indeed break some rules. Griefing. Also, using ban poll for no reason. They did it to be dicks. I mainly accuse that other guy, Wesemlin, the only reason I am arguing with this dude now, is because he is defending what they did together. Because they were doing it together. And he think what he did is right.
Teamkilling
Delaying
Insulting
Assisting enemy team
ban polling without any valid reason
A list, to make it more simple.
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He assisted the enemy team, like not killing that guy. He also teamkilled on purpose, not me though but that other guy. So yes, he did indeed break some rules. Griefing. Also, using ban poll for no reason. They did it to be dicks. I mainly accuse that other guy, Wesemlin, the only reason I am arguing with this dude now, is because he is defending what they did together. Because they were doing it together. And he think what he did is right.
Teamkilling
Delaying
Insulting
Assisting enemy team
ban polling without any valid reason
A list, to make it more simple.
The list is about Wesemlin? If yes, then indeed your screenshots prove that he did such things.
But about Vilhelm I can't be sure about anything in the screenshots besides him saying Wesemlin is a whore.
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The list is about Wesemlin? If yes, then indeed your screenshots prove that he did such things.
But about Vilhelm I can't be sure about anything in the screenshots besides him saying Wesemlin is a whore.
the pictures show him standing next to the enemy for several second, doing absolutely nothing. I cant suddently film whats going on, but it should be pretty clear from those screenshots, that they were in fact cooperating. Besides, he also says himself that this is what he did, and he says it is justified for the reason that the server was not very populated or something.
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By your logic i guess doing duels is also cooperating with the enemy team?
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he says it is justified for the reason that the server was not very populated or something.
As far as I know (yeah I don't know much) you can't get a multiplier unless there are at least 8 players on the server. It was told to me, I haven't specially tested it, but it seems to be right from past experiences.
So with 4 people, you'll most likely have some sort of joking around, duells, weapon testing etc. Don't take that too seriously. Change the server if you don't like it, but you won't be able to set up a proper game with 2vs2.
Personal insulting is something completly different, but I think you can't apply the server rules when there is no real server.
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As far as I know (yeah I don't know much) you can't get a multiplier unless there are at least 8 players on the server. It was told to me, I haven't specially tested it, but it seems to be right from past experiences.
So with 4 people, you'll most likely have some sort of joking around, duells, weapon testing etc. Don't take that too seriously. Change the server if you don't like it, but you won't be able to set up a proper game with 2vs2.
Personal insulting is something completly different, but I think you can't apply the server rules when there is no real server.
Exactly my point!!
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By your logic i guess doing duels is also cooperating with the enemy team?
No, its a nice gesture. However, if you teamkill your teammates in order to get the duel, because you want to, that is cooperating with the enemy team.
But this was something entirely else. It was not duel, it was delaying, it was helping the enemy team, it was griefing. You try to excuse your immature behvaiour by bypassing rules with some stupid argument to be honost.
Even if the serer is low populated, server rules should still be kept. You shouldnt be allowed to overtake a server and just ban-poll the ones you dont like. Even if there was no multiplier, which I still believe there was some rounds, it dosent justify to be a douchebag.
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Well you seem to be over-exaggerating very badly, Sarosu.
And No, you don't get a multiplier below 8, it only looks like you do till the first tick and it'll be gone and give x1 gold/xp anyway.
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Well you seem to be over-exaggerating very badly, Sarosu.
And No, you don't get a multiplier below 8, it only looks like you do till the first tick and it'll be gone and give x1 gold/xp anyway.
Over-exaggerating?
I am sorry I do not see the humor in teamkilling and insults. I think teamkilling others for ones own amusement is a selfish thing to do, and very highly ban-reason. Then theres this retard who supports it. And some other guy who supports the supporter. I guess you support teamkilling? When its not you? You support delaying? You support insult? There seems to be no sense in you.
Wesemli on my team. He teamkill me intentionally. He then goes and die freely to ur friend here, Wesemlis enemy. HOW IS THIS NOT WRONG?
INTENTIONALLY TEAMKILL UR TEAMMATES AND THEN DIE TO THE ENEMY WITHOUT RESSISTANCE... C'mon ffs... bring ur bloody common sense.
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2902.0.html
*btw, prove to me that it aint possible to gain a multiplier when theres no more then 8 players. I dont believe it.
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Your putting all rage on Vilhelm while it's Wesemlin, so yeah what if for example he crashed when he stood there, or alt tabbed and he walked to him and not doing anything, seriously dude you need some chill pills and not accuse the people who didn't do anything besides standing still/typing or whatever he was doing.
I'm merely protecting Vilhelm, I don't care about Wesemlin who should have been banned since numerous of people got banned for ban-poll abuse and teamkilling, but from your screenshots etc it looked like nothing was going on with him.
*btw Okay, come to my server tomorrow, EU_Risen_cRPG and let's find out mate, any way I can contact you? - It's that easy.
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Your putting all rage on Vilhelm while it's Wesemlin, so yeah what if for example he crashed when he stood there, or alt tabbed and he walked to him and not doing anything, seriously dude you need some chill pills and not accuse the people who didn't do anything besides standing still/typing or whatever he was doing.
I'm merely protecting Vilhelm, I don't care about Wesemlin who should have been banned since numerous of people got banned for ban-poll abuse and teamkilling, but from your screenshots etc it looked like nothing was going on with him.
*btw Okay, come to my server tomorrow, EU_Risen_cRPG and let's find out mate, any way I can contact you? - It's that easy.
Its not that easy, since our ratings will probably be different, and probably wont be balanced anyway. Does not mean that it is not possible for smaller games to give a multiplier, as they might get balanced.
ANd vilhelm admitted himself that he just was fooling around? that he did those things? Its not like it didnt happen, and he's not saying it didnt happen, he's just saying there was nothing wrong with doing it. Wtf are you barking at? :s Seriously, I just can't be arsed anymore. I think both of you 2 lack some intelligence or at least some empathy for this to go anywhere. With this said, I dont mean to offend you. Just think hard before posting, ur not making much sense.
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Actually, you could ask a dev that you won't get a multiplier.
I just think you lack humor, or atleast you have a short temper.
Very short.
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Actually, you could ask a dev that you won't get a multiplier.
I just think you lack humor, or atleast you have a short temper.
Very short.
I think you lack intelligence, and have a weird sense of humor.
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if you believe this conversation has any value for the moderators, you are mistaken. Stop it.
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I think you lack intelligence, and have a weird sense of humor.
I don't quite care what you think about me, I'm simply saying that he hasn't done anything towards you.
if you believe this conversation has any value for the moderators, you are mistaken. Stop it.
If it has value or not I'm explaining him that there's only one person doing it and not two.
If you can't fuck around a bit with friends (This is what he did, he did nothing towards Sarosu) then this shouldn't be bannable because you can do the same (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,9052.0.html), right? - even if there's 50's of people online, which seems like a proper reason to leave him unbanned and with the proof he has Wesemlin could be banned on the decision of an admin, just saying.
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Thovex, you really should've stopped talking by now.
Topic closed, decision tba.