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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: elleryss on June 24, 2011, 09:36:29 am

Title: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: elleryss on June 24, 2011, 09:36:29 am
Not even sure if this is even possible but my idea is as following:

I think it would be great that when you kill an enemy you actually feel like you really killed him
 instead of just having a final slash and he dies with only some blood covering his face.

So my suggestion is that when you have your last hit at an enemy (the killing blow) and you hit hes head you cut their head off.
This would work for different kind of hitboxes for example, when you hit their arms you cut a hand off, if you hit their chest you would see a major wound.

This shoudln't look rediculous ingame, like too much body parts flying around, you get my point.
I just think it would bring in a better experience if you could actually see some damage that you cause with your enormous weapon.

What do you guys think about this?
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Glyph on June 24, 2011, 09:37:52 am
Not even sure if this is even possible but my idea is as following:

I think it would be great that when you kill an enemy you actually feel like you really killed him
 instead of just having a final slash and he dies with only some blood covering his face.

So my suggestion is that when you have your last hit at an enemy (the killing blow) and you hit hes head you cut their head off.
This would work for different kind of hitboxes for example, when you hit their arms you cut a hand off, if you hit their chest you would see a major wound.

This shoudln't look rediculous ingame, like too much body parts flying around, you get my point.
I just think it would bring in a better experience if you could actually see some damage that you cause with your enormous weapon.

What do you guys think about this?
what about maces and other blunt weapons?
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: elleryss on June 24, 2011, 09:38:54 am
They could maybe leave another physical effect, like a half smashed helm/head or stomped arm?
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Vibe on June 24, 2011, 09:52:56 am
Just to be clear, what we want is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2X_SbZCHpc
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: elleryss on June 24, 2011, 09:55:38 am
Just to be clear, what we want is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2X_SbZCHpc

Hehe well in some sort of way yes,
I think the blood shoudln't be too much because when your in a large battle it would be raining, blood.

But you get the idea, your finishing move has to be deadly, deadly as in meat flying off  :lol:
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Vibe on June 24, 2011, 09:58:25 am
But you get the idea, your finishing move has to be deadly, deadly as in meat flying off  :lol:

Meat that could later be roasted, or eaten raw. Which brings us to second suggestion: mutilating/eating enemy corpse, because killing him wasn't enough to satisfy your hatred for him.
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: elleryss on June 24, 2011, 10:07:22 am
hahaha, exactly  :twisted:
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: CoWorm on June 24, 2011, 10:24:28 am
I prefer to keep it on the realistic side, so no thanks.
Also Vikingr has beheadings, looks awful, your head just disapears with lots of blood and a new generic silly looking one spawns and rolls around abit.
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: elleryss on June 24, 2011, 10:32:12 am
I prefer to keep it on the realistic side, so no thanks.
Also Vikingr has beheadings, looks awful, your head just disapears with lots of blood and a new generic silly looking one spawns and rolls around abit.

This idea makes it realistic, you think it is realistic the way it is now? having huge swords slashins around you w/o beheading or anything else?
And yea, if you code things wrong and it looks awfull its not fun at all. But why do you think if another mod has it coded badly so will crpg?

Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Kenji on June 24, 2011, 10:41:58 am
Maybe.

So long we get the option to turn the effects on or off due to fps concerns, I'm all for it. (Just like blood and particle effects)

One thing that's got me better immersed into the violent and brutal world of Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas was because of the limbs and heads being able to explode or cut off, but considering this game is rated T for teen (13+), a disclaimer for the worried parents is probably needed if ever developed :)
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: elleryss on June 24, 2011, 10:51:13 am

One thing that's got me better immersed into the violent and brutal world of Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas was because of the limbs and heads being able to explode or cut off, but considering this game is rated T for teen (13+), a disclaimer for the worried parents is probably needed if ever developed :)

If it gets too intense, at the body cutting part we maybe could find another way to attach more physical damage to your enemy's, think of just open wounds, smashed arms etc.
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Vibe on June 24, 2011, 10:54:33 am
It's just a flesh wound!

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Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: elleryss on June 24, 2011, 10:59:11 am
you make me lol so hard  :lol:
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Dezilagel on June 24, 2011, 12:38:22 pm
(click to show/hide)

It was just a matter of time... :lol:
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: ifreaky on June 24, 2011, 12:42:55 pm
lol, i juist googled before i saw this topic and found this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyxxJa9jJrQ&feature=related
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on June 24, 2011, 12:45:51 pm
yes please, it's the only way to keep lil children away from this game
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: elleryss on June 24, 2011, 01:37:57 pm
^ lol
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: ToxicKilla on June 24, 2011, 05:38:44 pm
Beheading and dismemberment would be totally epic! I also suggest making corpses collide with weapons, so if somebody is couched they will actually go flying backwards/forwards from the force of your lance. :twisted: This would also work with weapons, so they fall in the right direction.
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: ifreaky on June 24, 2011, 08:03:15 pm
lol, i juist googled before i saw this topic and found this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyxxJa9jJrQ&feature=related
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: [ptx] on June 24, 2011, 08:09:43 pm
If only any of this was possible.
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Siiem on June 24, 2011, 08:13:41 pm
I say no, it would be too much of a buff for 1h and a massive nerf on polearms, bows, 2h and xbows.
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: ArchonAlarion on June 24, 2011, 09:48:41 pm
I say no, it would be too much of a buff for 1h and a massive nerf on polearms, bows, 2h and xbows.

Dude, if your arm gets chopped off you're basically dead, doesn't matter what you are wielding.
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: [ptx] on June 24, 2011, 09:52:35 pm
/facepalm
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Kenji on June 26, 2011, 03:30:33 am
Beheading and dismemberment would be totally epic! I also suggest making corpses collide with weapons, so if somebody is couched they will actually go flying backwards/forwards from the force of your lance. :twisted: This would also work with weapons, so they fall in the right direction.
+1

I love couching, even though it often gets me killed more times than I'd care to remember.
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Erathsmus on June 26, 2011, 03:44:27 am
Every single person whom has had a lan party with me, and played this...Agreed that if this game had dismemberment, it would be 100x more epic. Honestly the idea of chopping up peasants, or impale lancing them, is just.... :oops: oops
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Christo on June 26, 2011, 03:54:30 am
Every single person whom has had a lan party with me, and played this...Agreed that if this game had dismemberment, it would be 100x more epic. Honestly the idea of chopping up peasants, or impale lancing them, is just.... :oops: oops

Oh crap.

A dream would come true if I could impale my enemies as an execution, then kick them off my weapon.
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Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Warcat on June 26, 2011, 10:29:58 am
I dont think losing body parts should have to be on the killing blow. It would better illusistrate the need for an all around damage buff if visitors can't see pics , please register or login
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Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Dezilagel on June 26, 2011, 01:35:02 pm

"Tuff-tuff" goes the failboat...
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Sagar on June 26, 2011, 04:37:59 pm
It would be nice. I remember Blade of Darkness - that was a good old days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZdP83kxT-U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVdpwhi31QI&feature=related
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: chadz on June 27, 2011, 12:01:45 am
a) impossible for a mod to do,
b) highly unrealistic,
c) attracts a kind of audience i don't really want to attract
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Christo on June 27, 2011, 12:32:01 am
a) impossible for a mod to do,
b) highly unrealistic,
c) attracts a kind of audience i don't really want to attract

I agree about a and c, but "simple" things like a weapon sticking inside a player when you stab them (impaling) is realistic.

Our current mechanic is funny, they just drop dead and that's it.

Too bad the game isn't really dynamic to support these.
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Tholgar on June 27, 2011, 01:06:42 am
Our current mechanic is funny, they just drop dead and that's it.
And getting hit by a teammate, through the falling dead corpse of an enemy is even more fun.
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Erathsmus on June 27, 2011, 01:12:32 am
Praise be to physics, may one day our Video Games fully support it!!!
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Warcat on June 27, 2011, 02:31:14 am
eww, fully supporting physics. Why would you want that in a game? If I want to know what really happens when I fall 15 feet, I'd jump off a roof.
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Erathsmus on June 27, 2011, 02:50:21 am
eww, fully supporting physics. Why would you want that in a game? If I want to know what really happens when I fall 15 feet, I'd jump off a roof.

Yah but how sick would that be if catapults actually broke down walls....Red Faction style.
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Bobthehero on June 27, 2011, 07:23:16 am

b) highly unrealistic,


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Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Vibe on June 27, 2011, 08:47:48 am
Yah but how sick would that be if catapults actually broke down walls....Red Faction style.

I think there were some broken walls made by Meow I believe, not really Red Faction but it is something :)
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Warcat on June 27, 2011, 09:21:07 am
Yah but how sick would that be if catapults actually broke down walls....Red Faction style.

Personally I prefer the lowering system currently in place. It may not look realistic, but it works realistic enough.  Doing realistic damage in Warband would take many versions for every scene prop, otherwise some things wouldn't react at all when shot. Perhaps a combination would be nice though.
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Erathsmus on June 27, 2011, 04:13:01 pm
Personally I prefer the lowering system currently in place. It may not look realistic, but it works realistic enough.  Doing realistic damage in Warband would take many versions for every scene prop, otherwise some things wouldn't react at all when shot. Perhaps a combination would be nice though.

The problem with the lowering system currently in place though, is that it glitches the map when used on the first round. Since then it is banned on NA_Siege.
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on June 27, 2011, 04:15:59 pm
There is no round in Strategus so lowering system will work.
Still i dunno how it will unbalance siege, a castle without wall will be hard to defend.
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Sultan Eren on June 27, 2011, 04:47:26 pm
Different dying animations including cuttable body parts can be added i assume. Its happening only when you die.
Title: Re: Off cuttable body parts
Post by: Siiem on June 27, 2011, 04:52:39 pm
Dude, if your arm gets chopped off you're basically dead, doesn't matter what you are wielding.

 :lol: