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Title: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: LittleJustin on June 21, 2011, 08:08:57 am
Locking this thread now. Thanks ecko for taking care of the issue.

LLJK_Zealot is on the NA admin server banning people for nothing left and right. I'm not sure if he is supposed to be admin but he is definitely abusing his powers
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Kenji on June 21, 2011, 08:17:12 am
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Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: espooo on June 21, 2011, 08:21:15 am
I got kicked from the server too.

See what happens? Give an LLJK player power (assuming he's the age of 10-16) and they will abuse it.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Snatch on June 21, 2011, 08:22:26 am
I got kicked from the server too.

See what happens? Give an LLJK player power (assuming he's the age of 10-16) and they will abuse it.

We actually have our own server that is connected, and zealot doesn't have admin on it. I have no clue what is going on.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Rannepear on June 21, 2011, 08:24:41 am
I got kicked from the server too.

See what happens? Give an LLJK player power (assuming he's the age of 10-16) and they will abuse it.

It was not given to him...He got the password somehow and is fucking around.

We actually have our own server that is connected, and zealot doesn't have admin on it. I have no clue what is going on.

How we'd love to believe that.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Seawied on June 21, 2011, 08:25:01 am
 :rolleyes: and LLJK members whine that they are getting picked on unfairly. I say ban this fucker's CD key from cRPG and delete all his characters.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Snatch on June 21, 2011, 08:25:34 am
^^^^^
Don't see how that solves anything. Zealot isn't assaulting crpg itself or the website run by chadz. Ecko's servers apparently aren't secure or have simple password. LLJK, nor I condone what happened.   


It was not given to him...He got the password somehow and is fucking around.

How we'd love to believe that.

LLJK server is Texas_Battle. Don't see how hard that is to believe. Meow hooked it up.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Rannepear on June 21, 2011, 08:26:15 am
Not the fact that you guys have a server, but that you have no clue what is going on.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Kenji on June 21, 2011, 08:27:44 am
I got kicked from the server too.

See what happens? Give an LLJK player power (assuming he's the age of 10-16) and they will abuse it.
I'm certain it's not a given, besides, other members from LLJK that 'actually' have admin power never abused it, at least not from what I've seen so far.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Slantedfloors on June 21, 2011, 08:28:14 am
Not the fact that you guys have a server, but that you have no clue what is going on.
You've clearly made up your mind already, but this came as a surprise to all of us.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Snatch on June 21, 2011, 08:29:29 am
Not the fact that you guys have a server, but that you have no clue what is going on.

For months playing mod, this isn't the first time Ecko's servers been compromised.

EDIT: Just so happens one time it was some rogue goon. Doesn't mean all goons are like this. In team speak, we are pretty pissed cuz we are afraid we'll lose our servers now.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Digglez on June 21, 2011, 08:30:24 am
nuke the site from orbit (global ban all goons), its the only way to be sure


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Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Rannepear on June 21, 2011, 08:32:15 am
You've clearly made up your mind already, but this came as a surprise to all of us.

Yea well, based on the impression your clan has imposed upon the cRPG community, my opinion is justified. Especially with the recent tension from the IRC chat log stuff.

For months playing mod, this isn't the first time Ecko's servers been compromised.

EDIT: Just so happens one time it was some rogue goon. Doesn't mean all goons are like this. In team speak, we are pretty pissed cuz we are afraid we'll lose our servers now.

^^^ Read above. I'd like to be on your side, really, but I'd be insane to do so from what I've seen since I've joined this community.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Ashrik on June 21, 2011, 08:32:21 am
nuke the site from orbit (global ban all goons), its the only way to be sure

When being a goon is outlawed, only outlaws will be goons

Can't wait to see how I'll now be punished for something I didn't do!
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Digglez on June 21, 2011, 08:35:39 am
When being a goon is outlawed, only outlaws will be goons

Can't wait to see how I'll now be punished for something I didn't do!

The chocolate chip cookie's had flair
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Snatch on June 21, 2011, 08:37:10 am
Yea well, based on the impression your clan has imposed upon the cRPG community, my opinion is justified. Especially with the recent tension from the IRC chat log stuff.

^^^ Read above. I'd like to be on your side, really, but I'd be insane to do so from what I've seen since I've joined this community.

I think you are insane. Why would entire group of people that love our little server, condone the actions of one person, which could lose us our server. We post our ts info on our server, we post our forums and encourage players to join it. We don't hide our information or make super secret passwords like ATS. We like our playerbase, not treat them like criminals.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Rannepear on June 21, 2011, 08:40:58 am
I think you are insane. Why would entire group of people that love our little server, condone the actions of one person, which could lose us our server. We post our ts info on our server, we post our forums and encourage players to join it. We don't hide our information or make super secret passwords like ATS. We like our playerbase, not treat them like criminals.
:?: That's a bit irrelevant, but OK sure, ATS doesn't post vent info publicly..for obvious reasons.

BACK ON TOPIC, something needs to be done about this Zealot guy.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: robtherad on June 21, 2011, 08:43:18 am
Quote from: Captain Classical
All I did was punk them, it's a friendly clan on clan prank, no harm done!

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This is a crosspost from our SA thread.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Kung Fu Jesus on June 21, 2011, 08:45:02 am
In before the lock. Good stuff guys.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Snatch on June 21, 2011, 08:45:46 am
Son of a bitch, I fucking hate zealot.

EDIT: Fuck it, I'm going to bed.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Kenji on June 21, 2011, 08:48:26 am
Son of a bitch, I fucking hate zealot.
Backstabbed by a clanmate, I guess this is the reason why I haven't joined one :|
BACK ON TOPIC, something needs to be done about this Zealot guy.
This, with urgency.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Ashrik on June 21, 2011, 08:53:56 am
I agree, can anyone make a medal at this late hour?
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Malaclypse on June 21, 2011, 08:54:46 am
Plenty of other servers to play on for the time being, do it up. ConvictGaming needs some love
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Damatacus_ATS on June 21, 2011, 08:58:30 am
I agree, can anyone make a medal at this late hour?
So you want to give him a medal for being such a good troll.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Kung Fu Jesus on June 21, 2011, 08:58:56 am
Dany's dragons get killed next season, along with Jon Snow.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: robtherad on June 21, 2011, 09:02:57 am
Dany's dragons get killed next season, along with Jon Snow.

FUCK YOU
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: LLJK_Goatee on June 21, 2011, 09:03:31 am
As official LLJK diplomat I have prepared a response video to be played to anyone regarding the banning due to my absence caused by internet spaceships here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdJBz3lvmjQ/)
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Seawied on June 21, 2011, 09:20:40 am
LLJK, nor I condone what happened.  

The underlined section is false.

As official LLJK diplomat I have prepared a response video to be played to anyone regarding the banning due to my absence caused by internet spaceships here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdJBz3lvmjQ/)
I agree, can anyone make a medal at this late hour?
In before the lock. Good stuff guys.

While I don't personally believe you had anything to do with this incident Gaga, clan members acting in behavior such as this reflect on the overall clan. You're often judged by the company you keep.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Tydeus on June 21, 2011, 09:28:13 am
Dany's dragons get killed next season, along with Jon Snow.
Her dragons haven't even been born yet in the series.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Everkistus on June 21, 2011, 09:36:11 am
Goddamn I laughed hard on this. Well played.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Ashrik on June 21, 2011, 03:26:13 pm
The underlined section is false.

While I don't personally believe you had anything to do with this incident Gaga, clan members acting in behavior such as this reflect on the overall clan. You're often judged by the company you keep.

Goddamn I laughed hard on this. Well played.
According to you- LLJK, as well as Fallen and game admins condone this action

Oh wait, that's retarded.

Specially when it's clear what the person you quoted is talking about
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Damug on June 21, 2011, 03:28:44 pm
Ban all lljk, they're nothing but mouth breathers.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Rikthor on June 21, 2011, 03:51:14 pm
Ban all lljk, they're nothing but mouth breathers.

This all day and all night.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: hellowrold on June 21, 2011, 03:57:00 pm
zealot is my idol
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: arab on June 21, 2011, 03:59:32 pm
ban all LLJK for zealot doing shit
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Rannepear on June 21, 2011, 04:11:51 pm
Ban all lljk, they're nothing but mouth breathers.

This all day and all night.

ban all LLJK for zealot doing shit

Well, guys, its unanimous!
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: dynamike on June 21, 2011, 04:19:27 pm
I understand Gaga is really trying to get the situation under control and has most likely nothing to do with this - but the rest of you LLJK's are not helping the case.

Trolling from time to time and trying to maintain a certain reputation is fine, but you should also realize when the time has come to calm down. Something like this can have serious consequences on you being able to play on and especially host a server.

I would think twice before further trolling this matter and supporting those "pranks". They are not even very imaginative. No need to prove to me that you can do better, however.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: partyboy on June 21, 2011, 04:36:40 pm
While I don't personally believe you had anything to do with this incident Gaga, clan members acting in behavior such as this reflect on the overall clan. You're often judged by the company you keep.

Gaga I can't believe you play internet games with these hooligans this really reflects on you and should cause you deep shame IRL
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: partyboy on June 21, 2011, 04:38:52 pm
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 :?

seriously this is fucking hilarious
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Nindur on June 21, 2011, 05:10:32 pm
You have forced us to protect our servers. Farewell.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Ylca on June 21, 2011, 05:15:09 pm
You have forced us to protect our servers. Farewell.

Weren't they protected before? What does this mean?
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Diomedes on June 21, 2011, 05:39:29 pm
Zealot has deliberately tk'd, griefed, and has now deliberately compromised server security.  I do not value his place in our community.  Can anybody speak as to why he shouldn't be given the most severe ban possible?
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: goresaw on June 21, 2011, 05:41:56 pm
Zealot has deliberately tk'd, griefed, and has now deliberately compromised server security.  I do not value his place in our community.  Can anybody speak as to why he shouldn't be given the most severe ban possible?


Because some idiot's server security and you crying about a game isn't exactly a horrible thing.


If you care enough to go ballistic about your server being messed with then start off with caring about your own server's security (your investment) first.


CRPG = 25 year old larpers with 12 year old social skills
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 21, 2011, 05:53:53 pm
Just put him on a permanent black list for that server plus all other servers run by the same affiliation. Problem solved, no need to make this into a massive problem.

LLJK is not magically run by one grand overlord and every goon his minion. They are probably equivalent to the Mercs in that they have a few members that do whatever the hell they want.

No need to ban all of LLJK. When the 22nd did the historical stint they were not all mass banned due to one bad apple. Just permanently ban a group of LLJK that can not control themselves and be done with it.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: goresaw on June 21, 2011, 05:56:42 pm
Just put him on a permanent black list for that server plus all other servers run by the same affiliation. Problem solved, no need to make this into a massive problem.

LLJK is not magically run by one grand overlord and every goon his minion. They are probably equivalent to the Mercs in that they have a few members that do whatever the hell they want.

No need to ban all of LLJK. When the 22nd did the historical stint they were not all mass banned due to one bad apple. Just permanently ban a group of LLJK that can not control themselves and be done with it.


Black list, eh? You want a crybaby biased admin with bad social skills running ALL of the NA servers?
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Digglez on June 21, 2011, 06:04:08 pm
Just put him on a permanent black list for that server plus all other servers run by the same affiliation. Problem solved, no need to make this into a massive problem.

LLJK is not magically run by one grand overlord and every goon his minion. They are probably equivalent to the Mercs in that they have a few members that do whatever the hell they want.

No need to ban all of LLJK. When the 22nd did the historical stint they were not all mass banned due to one bad apple. Just permanently ban a group of LLJK that can not control themselves and be done with it.


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clearly you dont know the Goon organization or any of their previous 'accomplishments' in other games.  Anything short of a complete and total ban of them will not stop the problem.  maybe you should do some research on them and come back here when you have a clue, because its lenient people like you that let them continue lawlz at other players expense.

Knowing is half the battle.
Extreme Violence is the other half.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Damug on June 21, 2011, 06:05:40 pm
Just put him on a permanent black list for that server plus all other servers run by the same affiliation. Problem solved, no need to make this into a massive problem.

LLJK is not magically run by one grand overlord and every goon his minion. They are probably equivalent to the Mercs in that they have a few members that do whatever the hell they want.

No need to ban all of LLJK. When the 22nd did the historical stint they were not all mass banned due to one bad apple. Just permanently ban a group of LLJK that can not control themselves and be done with it.
A reasonable solution to a problem? Not in my cRPG. That's not how it works in the NA community my reasonable brother.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: LLJK_Fellblade on June 21, 2011, 06:11:14 pm

clearly you dont know the Goon organization or any of their previous 'accomplishments' in other games.  Anything short of a complete and total ban of them will not stop the problem.  maybe you should do some research on them and come back here when you have a clue, because its lenient people like you that let them continue lawlz at other players expense.

Knowing is half the battle.
Extreme Violence is the other half.

There have been more goons banned from something awful than have probably every played CRPG.  We are not one group of people, there are 150,000 registered goons.

Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: LLJK_Goatee on June 21, 2011, 06:16:14 pm
There have been more goons banned from something awful than have probably every played CRPG.  We are not one group of people, there are 150,000 registered goons.

To be fare Ironic War Crimminal, BitchKilla and Matt damon probably have 400 accounts banned between the 3 of them.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: dynamike on June 21, 2011, 06:18:04 pm

Black list, eh? You want a crybaby biased admin with bad social skills running ALL of the NA servers?

Look, right now you are all pretty much at rock bottom - all banned from ATS servers. This guy is trying to hand you a rope by suggesting something less... radical... and you criticize him and insult the admins further? Not a smart move in my book.

clearly you dont know the Goon organization or any of their previous 'accomplishments' in other games.  Anything short of a complete and total ban of them will not stop the problem.  maybe you should do some research on them and come back here when you have a clue, because its lenient people like you that let them continue lawlz at other players expense.

Knowing is half the battle.
Extreme Violence is the other half.

Lashing out at a guy that is trying to come up with solutions that do not involve getting a not so insignificant percentage of the NA player base banned and trying to be fair to some of the decent people in LLJK (yes, there actually are!), does not add anything to the situation. Your opinion is noted and your point made, but the message is sent in the wrong way.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Ylca on June 21, 2011, 06:19:16 pm
clearly you dont know the Goon organization or any of their previous 'accomplishments' in other games.  Anything short of a complete and total ban of them will not stop the problem.  maybe you should do some research on them and come back here when you have a clue, because its lenient people like you that let them continue lawlz at other players expense.

What some goons do in CRPG is what some goons do in CRPG, Somethingawful is huge and filled with places for people to discuss politcs, post cat pics, or post random white noise garbage to their hearts content. There is no requirement that a goon be or act a certain way, that's all just blabber from people who lack solid identity and want to fit in with an internet tribe.

What's a 4channer? Someone who goes to 4chan. Why is this a defining characteristic? Its not if its not allowed to be. A redditor is someone who frequents reddit. If you think that "redditors are like x" then you've been sadly misled into the Church of Internet Tribalism. Goons have some of the most powerful and helpful guilds in many games, and goons also have some of the most troll filled as well, it honestly just depends on who makes the first post and/or whether there is a splinter group or not. In fact the fact that there are splinter goon guilds in almost every game is indicative of the lack of hivemind.

In short you know very little about "goons" and even if you did, goon is an internet descriptor, not an actual personality trait, set of ideas, or mantra.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: ManOfWar on June 21, 2011, 06:35:21 pm
Well, at least let em use the Strategus duel server for when strat starts up,

That way they can still participate in strat

if they want to play battle and grind, they can stay on their own server
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: goresaw on June 21, 2011, 06:47:28 pm
Look, right now you are all pretty much at rock bottom - all banned from ATS servers. This guy is trying to hand you a rope by suggesting something less... radical... and you criticize him and insult the admins further? Not a smart move in my book.



Just because he runs a mod of a mod's server that doesn't make him above criticism bro. He's a baby with some semblance of power and from what I gather, he just kinda forced him self into it.




It's funny that this is causing such a stir...just ban the people who are directly responsible and clean up your fucking mess and move the fuck on.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Diomedes on June 21, 2011, 06:55:08 pm

Because some idiot's server security and you crying about a game isn't exactly a horrible thing.


If you care enough to go ballistic about your server being messed with then start off with caring about your own server's security (your investment) first.

I spoke specifically about Zealot and his repeated and escalating attempts to grief the community.  I asked for reasons why he shouldn't be severely banned from the servers, not for impotent attacks against Tears of Destiny and me.  Though you're clearly either trolling or too stupid to engage with I'll post some clarifications for the thread as a whole:

1) Not every trolls are LLJK, and not all LLJK troll all the time.  I support their claim to exist but not the manner in which they often do.  Calling for a blanket ban on LLJK is not nearly so productive as targeted and severe bans. 

2) People are unhappy about what Zealot's been doing but not all comments about him should be taken as emotionally charged diatribes on how society is falling apart.  His punishment is an important issue that needs a timely response from both LLJK admin and other server admins.

3) For the most part this isn't our decision.  Though I'm sure Ecko and Devilize are skimming this thread it's not as if this discussion is a jury deciding the fate of LLJK or Zealot.  That decision is in the hands of server admins.  All we can do, and should do, is discuss the merits of different punishments for Zealot, or LLJK, in the hope that our opinions are consulted by the admins.

UPDATE:  Ecko has perma-banned Zealot and dealt with the folks who leaked the password.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: goresaw on June 21, 2011, 06:58:38 pm

3) For the most part this isn't our decision.  Though I'm sure Ecko and Devilize are skimming this thread it's not as if this discussion is a jury deciding the fate of LLJK or Zealot.  That decision is in the hands of server admins. All we can do, and should do, is discuss the merits of different punishments for Zealot, or LLJK, in the hope that our opinions are consulted by the admins.

lol you're the worst.



You shouldn't do anything, it's a game bro. chill out.

Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 21, 2011, 06:59:55 pm

Black list, eh? You want a crybaby biased admin with bad social skills running ALL of the NA servers?

He does not run all of the NA servers, he runs a few of them, and I find nothing unreasonable about the owner having all of his servers blacklisting one individual from JUST his servers who hacked and abused admin.

yes, he should step up security, but he should also ban the guy who broke it to begin with.

I never said I wanted Ecko to run every NA server. Please read with care.

EDIT:
It's funny that this is causing such a stir...just ban the people who are directly responsible and clean up your fucking mess and move the fuck on.

Funny, this is what I said...
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Ecko on June 21, 2011, 07:04:35 pm
To everyone who Cried:

I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: goresaw on June 21, 2011, 07:07:57 pm
I love Zealot
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Miley on June 21, 2011, 07:14:43 pm
He also causes a lot of problems with the admins on LLJK server. I don't think it's an LLJK thing, it's just Zealot.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Ashrik on June 21, 2011, 07:38:15 pm
It's definitelyy an LLJK thing. Those guys are bad for the game, bad for the community, and just bad players in general.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 21, 2011, 07:45:22 pm
It's definitelyy an LLJK thing. Those guys are bad for the game, bad for the community, and just bad players in general.

I am afraid that I don't believe you good sir, your clan tag below your avatar indicates that you are part of LLJK and thus can not be trusted.
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Ashrik on June 21, 2011, 08:02:13 pm
I am afraid that I don't believe you good sir, your clan tag below your avatar indicates that you are part of LLJK and thus can not be trusted.
LLJK cannot be trusted!
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Ashrik on June 21, 2011, 08:03:18 pm
LLJK cannot be trusted!
Paradox!
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Everkistus on June 21, 2011, 08:03:46 pm
Ah, the classic paradox. "LLJK members always lie, says Ashrik." Is he telling the truth or lying?
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 21, 2011, 08:05:18 pm
Damn, first LLJK is all untrustworthy, but then he posts that all of LLJK is untrustworthy so it must not be true! But then he posts it again proving my point yet creating a paradox that it is untrustworthy so maybe they are trustworthy, then he posts that he created a paradox but how can I believe that he has created a paradox?

What do I do?!
Ah, the classic paradox. "LLJK members always lie, says Ashrik." Is he telling the truth or lying?
We should probably ask chadz in the next Q&A
Title: Re: NA 100 Man Admin Needed asap
Post by: Rhaelys on June 21, 2011, 08:53:03 pm
Ah, the classic paradox. "LLJK members always lie, says Ashrik." Is he telling the truth or lying?

What do I do?!We should probably ask chadz in the next Q&A

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