Why would anybody wear this, it looks gay.+1
It was the most refined armor of it's time, made from light weight damascene steel chain mail and plates. It is the same kind of metal used for making swords that could cut through plate armor. The process was similar to that of Japanese swords.visitors can't see pics , please register or login
It is the best looking armor I have seen, it is better than the clunky Euro armor that you could move at 1 mile an hour. With this armor you get better protection and faster movement. This armor was used for thousands of years and did not need to be changed due to it's strength and flexibility.
It was the most refined armor of it's time..
It was the most refined armor of it's time, made from light weight damascene steel chain mail and plates. It is the same kind of metal used for making swords that could cut through plate armor. The process was similar to that of Japanese swords.
Most of the Euro heavy armor was put aside after the Crusades and the Islamic Armor was adopted along with it's technology...hence bringing in the Renaissance in
No sword no matter how its made can cut through plate armor, FUCK OFF
Thats plain bullshit, armor in Europe kept going heavier and heavier.
**Warning*** Link free of bullshit and may contradict some of the views expressed in the original post, but since its bullshit anyways, noone care http://web.ceu.hu/medstud/manual/SRM/weapons.htm ***Warning***
It is said about the Persian Damascus Steel: "A true Damascus sword is able to cut through another Sword, armor and a head at the same time, with one simple swing, and it cut them like butter... there's nothing a damascus sword can't cut through"
... but it never say what happen when two damascus sword crash together. :)
Another islamic propaganda thread from this guy
More middle-eastern themed armor would be nice, not to mention there's a lot of cool models out there in other mods. But since this has already been derailed, I'll just keep it going.
Anyways, these areas were already rich in knowledge, technology, medicine, etc, before Islam ever got there. I mean, the entire area is nicknamed "The craddle of civilization" for fuck's sake. Let's be honest, the arabs who conquered for example Sassanid persia were pretty much a grouping of various desert tribes. They were not a civilization on par with the Persians, Egyptians and others on many levels. It'd be like saying the Mongols were responsable for every single innovation in the regions they invaded. They were an amazingly efficient war machine, but at the start of their spread they were not a "civilization" per say. They mostly got that from the populations they conquered.
Don't think this is just some basic anti-islamic prejudice or anything, even in their own records of the early invasions it is one of the images they use over and over, the pure, humble, unsullied by civilization, rough and manly arabs beating the effiminate, soft, spoiled by the easy life city dwellers. They pretty much had the same image of "civilization" as the Mongols did.
So I don't see why all those developments are attributed to Islam when the areas they came from were already old, prosperous, mighty civilizations before they got conquered. If Sassanid persia had managed to beat back the invaders from the south, would they have simply stagnated without the guiding light of Islam, or would the inertia from the already accumulated knowledge, infrastructure and peoples of the empire gone on to produce the same results, if not better ones? How exactly do you quantify Islam's effect on the academic/scientific accomplishements of the area when universities, libraries and technological/cultural innovations were an ongoing process which already existed long before the religion was ever present, and one which for sure was not a component of the "civilization" that created it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ3swwsW1ek
This is something I ran across recently from one of my favorite Islamic Authors/Scholars by the name of Harun Yahya, talking about the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) foretelling the use of Laptops: http://en.harunyahya.tv/videoDetail/Lang/4/Product/43006
Mounted Elephant Archers were awesome :)
What were the elephant archer riding?
Your intense hatred of Muslims is obvious
:D In that case, my beef with you is over. However, I pray that anybody that gives me negative karma gets a hundred in return.
.....To my seemingly inferior knowledge I've always believed the aspiration for power was the unifying and potent factor of Scientific progress. I've aswell always presumed the speed of technological development of various civilizations could be clarified by certain abstract "amount" of their struggle for survival over time. I can't deny I believed the faith and the knowledge are (if) only in correlational relation, so I foolishly depicted any mythological interpretations of world and its order as the essential onthological padding constructed by human's knowledge and only on the grounds of the then accessible knowledge to explain fundamental questions beyond that knowledge. I shamelessly applauded when I read about all the mythological (and thus religion) systems in the past and found how they had been overcomed over time by new findings and changes and thus by more sophisticated and accurate mythological systems. Frankly for my poor soul I never came to such a splendid revelation, that this holy teachings of shepherd is as flexible and still relevant as an newborn infant. When I read Quran for the first time, I already knew the background of its birth and necessity of social reformation, so I blindly read the proposed order by Quran as an former piece of laws for early Arab culture. I just saw the reason of Quran as what is Old Testament to Jews rather an continuation to such an nobless and revolutional innovantion as was New Testament to the known world. Perhaps I was somehow irritated by intense and continual threats of everlasting barbecue and fire and other sort of punishment for being just not choosen to have "right" ears as Quran described. Even though the start is somewhat slimy and quileful in way of its argumentation and reasurment (ITS GONNA HURT YA! BARBECUE AND STUFF) I was quite sure its role was right in situation where it was written and it was for me a very nice reading after all, but a bit ecclectical to be honest.
When did religion get involved into this?
Dude... It's in the thread topic?
The main topic is about armor? Wasn't this originally someone trying to get a new armor added? If this was about religion I would have never looked at the topic in the first place :|
It is the best looking armor I have seen, it is better than the clunky Euro armor that you could move at 1 mile an hour. With this armor you get better protection and faster movement. This armor was used for thousands of years and did not need to be changed due to it's strength and flexibility.
It was the most refined armor of it's time, made from light weight damascene steel chain mail and plates. It is the same kind of metal used for making swords that could cut through plate armor. The process was similar to that of Japanese swords.
BTW, the spike on the helmet was used as a last resort weapon and came in handy. There are variations of the greaves where they also have spikes on them for the same purpose. Ottoman, Safavid, and Mughal armor were very similar except for regional differences.
The Russians and Eastern Europeans copied the Persian Armor due to it's effectiveness in combat. Most of the Euro heavy armor was put aside after the Crusades and the Islamic Armor was adopted along with it's technology...hence bringing in the Renaissance in Europe.
It is the best looking armor I have seen, it is better than the clunky Euro armor that you could move at 1 mile an hour. With this armor you get better protection and faster movement. This armor was used for thousands of years and did not need to be changed due to it's strength and flexibility.
It was the most refined armor of it's time, made from light weight damascene steel chain mail and plates. It is the same kind of metal used for making swords that could cut through plate armor. The process was similar to that of Japanese swords.
BTW, the spike on the helmet was used as a last resort weapon and came in handy. There are variations of the greaves where they also have spikes on them for the same purpose. Ottoman, Safavid, and Mughal armor were very similar except for regional differences.
The Russians and Eastern Europeans copied the Persian Armor due to it's effectiveness in combat. Most of the Euro heavy armor was put aside after the Crusades and the Islamic Armor was adopted along with it's technology...hence bringing in the Renaissance in Europe.
persian armor was useless, watch 300 and see how crap it was.