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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Andropov on June 15, 2011, 09:08:35 pm
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Using a courser and a lance and nothing else, I am losing money. This is unfair to cavalry; horse price should be decreased.
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I found this strange. With a courser, heavy lance, and light armour (I used the light strange armour), I won money, Not a lot, but something in the long run.
You have bad luck, try to have 20k at least, and sometimes you will lose a bit of money, but afterwards you will win it back.
At the end I even wore a 2nd weapon sometimes (usually a cheap one), and I didn't lose any money. In fact, I won 40k in level 30.
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i use equipment of 120k value.. in 2 weeks i have exact amount of gold as i had then
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Using a courser and a lance and nothing else, I am losing money. This is unfair to cavalry; horse price should be decreased.
If you were nothing and just have a lance and courser they will break all the time. From what I understand each minute there is a chance that one of the items you are using will break (Note one per minute). So actually wearing more gear will save you money. Running around naked is dumb and shouldn't be done even on horseback. If I we run around naked I wouldn't use more than a practice sword.
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Cav should never have to resort to running around on foot due to lack of money.
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My cav character rarely has to grind anymore. I often use a steppe horse for most situations, nomad armor, heavy lance, and a hafted blade. On average, I make a decent amount of money.
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I use a destrier, mail armor & 1h+shield and can still make money
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I guarantee you will make money if you use a 10k horse, light armor, heavy lance and a cheap sidearm.
Personally I break roughly even with courser, light armor, heavy lance and military scythe. That's roughly 33k worth. It's very random, though. 3 unlucky rounds and I'm down 3k+.
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If you were nothing and just have a lance and courser they will break all the time. From what I understand each minute there is a chance that one of the items you are using will break (Note one per minute). So actually wearing more gear will save you money. Running around naked is dumb and shouldn't be done even on horseback. If I we run around naked I wouldn't use more than a practice sword.
This isn't how it works. My understanding is that each minute, each item you are using has a 4% chance of breaking, tallied at the end of a round. Repair costs are 5% of the item's buy value. Each item has its own break chance independant of whatever else you're wearing, so naked or fully armored, your horse's repair costs will not be affected. You should be able to break even with just a lance and courser, but you might need a good amount of buffer gold to protect you from a spree of bad luck in the short term.
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i use:
Sarranid horse
Kuyak
Mail mittens
Rus shoes
Nordic warlord (most expensive nordic) helmet
Heavy lance
Military cleaver
Heater shield
and i keep my finances steady :o
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Currently 57k. I played roughly 20 hours with this and I won 1k, but I think I will loose money over time. You need a very big starting buffer if you want to play cav.
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Using a courser and a lance and nothing else, I am losing money. This is unfair to cavalry; horse price should be decreased.
Your ability to one hit everything and everyone including str builded behemoths in the game is unparralleled. Couple it with a shield, high armour for added survivability and you're complaining, not only that you're lying.
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i use:
Sarranid horse
Kuyak
Mail mittens
Rus shoes
Nordic warlord (most expensive nordic) helmet
Heavy lance
Military cleaver
Heater shield
and i keep my finances steady :o
I use basically around this aswell and it stays steady at no profit no loss over big time.
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Cav should never have to resort to running around on foot due to lack of money.
lol
troll detected. :rolleyes:
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it's difficult to make money as cavalry and rather slow, but it's not impossible...
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Best advice is to get 2 horses one for +x3 using and one for -x3 using... and a plated charger for when you nominated a leecher at x5 and got yourself x6 xD last one does not count in :P
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Courser
Heavy Lance
Italian Sword
Bascinet
Scale Armor
Mail Gauntlets
Splinted Greaves w/spurs
Heavy Kite Shield
its a matter of knowing when to use your horse. You can't go cav every round its a matter of budgeting yourself on certain maps and situations
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white tunic over mail + destrier / arabian and heavy lance and spear, i made money overall
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I would say that HA is more costy than average lancers, coz of the additonal cost from the strong bow and bodkin arrows.
The weapon alone cost me around 23k, not even counting the cost for my horse and armor.
Just the price u gotta pay to be a complete asshole.
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The Strongbow is 7,896 and the Heavy Lance is 6,237. Remember that the heirlooms does not increase repair cost. Although bodkin Arrows are 5,058 if you take the bodkins (twice if you take two stacks), the lancer also have a backup weapon too.
Not to say that HA is cheap, but it's not 23k just for the weapons.
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Cav should never have to resort to running around on foot due to lack of money.
Right. and the solution: add a cheap donkey so they don't have to walk and make them ride it in reverse facing the ass's ass.
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Courser, Light Kuyak, Nordic Helm, Heavy Lance, Leather Gloves/Boots, Long Hafted Blade
Keeping finances steady, unless I get unlucky with courser repairs (yesterday for example got 4 courser repairs in a row, fml)
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Using a courser and a lance and nothing else, I am losing money. This is unfair to cavalry; horse price should be decreased.
MY class is too expensive not fair, lower the price of horses. I guess when you change class it will be MY sword is too expensive lower the price.
what gen are you how long have you been playing? Let me tell you a secret this game is not about playing the exact class and equipement you want straight away. Its all about the grind, the grind for gold, the grind for heirlooms. Play one, two or maybe 3 gens in medium armour and a cheap weapon, then when you get to 500k you wont even notice the repairs on your courser. I play pure 2h and in my full gear with Lordly Trans, mw Danish etc. my repairs usually go between 1k to 2.5k a round. I can break even most of the time but sometimes i decide to wear shitty armour just to make some money coz i went down 50k in few days due to weird balance, just couldnt win etc.
Plus the amount of horses on the servers atm. suggest otherwise, it seems the cav and archer class are cheapest to play judging by the amount of players playing it. so no dont lower the price of horses, raise it because it seems its easy to own a horse these days.
regards.
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my repairs usually go between 1k to 2.5k a round. I can break even most of the time
This is an impossible statement. Do the math.
(Btw, I do believe you break even, but your average repair cost is well below 1k)
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This is an impossible statement. Do the math.
(Btw, I do believe you break even, but your average repair cost is well below 1k)
its an average ofcourse sometimes i get 350 gold only but very rarely.
my sword repair is about 900 gold and he gets repaired 80% of rounds.
my full gear consists of:
Nikolskoe Helm
Lordly Heraldic Transitional Armour
Lordly Scale Gauntlets
Iron Greaves
Masterwork Danish Greatsword
well i still leave the option im wrong my assumption was based purely on the feeling, im no matematician.
oh yea and i still claim loomed items get repaired more often even when i have only one equipped (again my opinion cant prove it)
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Using a courser and a lance and nothing else, I am losing money. This is unfair to cavalry; horse price should be decreased.
Cosmonaut Andropov.....how ?
I use (most of the time): Plated Charger, Fat Plate Armor, Plate Mittens, Plate Boots, Winged Helm, Arabian Cavalry Sword, Steel Shield, Military Pick and One Handed Battle Axe.....and I am earning money all the time.
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my sword repair is about 900 gold and he gets repaired 80% of rounds.
No it doesn't.
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I use (most of the time): Plated Charger, Fat Plate Armor, Plate Mittens, Plate Boots, Winged Helm, Arabian Cavalry Sword, Steel Shield, Military Pick and One Handed Battle Axe.....and I am earning money all the time.
I never saw you on a plated charger Crow face, are you telling porky pies again!
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No it doesn't.
ok if your majesty says so :rolleyes:
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I never saw you on a plated charger
8-)
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I never saw you on a plated charger Crow face, are you telling porky pies again!
:shock: :lol:
Then i must be extra unlucky. Courser, heavy lance, black helmet with hat, mail gauntlets, mail chausses, coat of plates, knightly heater shield, italian sword. I can lose like 10k on three maps. Forces me to play as foot speaman :cry:
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ok if your majesty says so :rolleyes:
Fraps your next play session. If your sword at any point breaks 16 times in 20 consecutive rounds, I'll paypal you $100.
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Fishtip: don't use your horse all the time, go for a hybrid foot/cav build and save up on foot!
Actually, that''s two tips for the price of none!
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Cosmonaut Andropov.....how ?
I use (most of the time): Plated Charger, Fat Plate Armor, Plate Mittens, Plate Boots, Winged Helm, Arabian Cavalry Sword, Steel Shield, Military Pick and One Handed Battle Axe.....and I am earning money all the time.
how to cheat slot system? :o
anyways, repairs always feel more expensive than they are because you mostly notice it when your expensive items repair and not when nothing expensive repairs. That makes it feel like your xpensive items break all the time.
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Fishtip: don't use your horse all the time, go for a hybrid foot/cav build and save up on foot!
Actually, that''s two tips for the price of none!
This is also very helpful on the maps where cav simply cannot function.
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A courser and normal lance is almost exactly 25k.
Over long term the breakeven is 25000 x (average multiplier).
So no, you really are not losing money even if you constantly sit at 1x.
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The Strongbow is 7,896 and the Heavy Lance is 6,237. Remember that the heirlooms does not increase repair cost. Although bodkin Arrows are 5,058 if you take the bodkins (twice if you take two stacks), the lancer also have a backup weapon too.
Not to say that HA is cheap, but it's not 23k just for the weapons.
use ur math, 1 strongbow, 3 x bodkin :P u forgot the other bodkin ^^
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use ur math, 1 strongbow, 3 x bodkin :P u forgot the other bodkin ^^
Wait. So your STANDARD outfit as a HA is to have the best HA bow, and 3 of the best quivers? Ming that is not the profit way, that's the "yay I got x4/x5" way. If you want to have 3 quivers than take khergit arrows, maybe barbed arrows, but only take the bodkin when you got high multiplier.
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Wait. So your STANDARD outfit as a HA is to have the best HA bow, and 3 of the best quivers? Ming that is not the profit way, that's the "yay I got x4/x5" way. If you want to have 3 quivers than take khergit arrows, maybe barbed arrows, but only take the bodkin when you got high multiplier.
Yea :( i know, but as a HA u really need all the damage u can get.
This is me and JackieChan's equip costs.
Armor=3.3k
Horse=22k
Weapon=23k
around 48k
Instead of earning money we usually lost gold slightly from time to time. Price to pay for a HA :(
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Yea :( i know, but as a HA u really need all the damage u can get.
This is me and JackieChan's equip costs.
Armor=3.3k
Horse=22k
Weapon=23k
around 48k upkeep
You mean 48k total equipment not upkeep :P Nobody has THAT much repair costs :lol:
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You mean 48k total equipment not upkeep :P Nobody has THAT much repair costs :lol:
yea sorry about that :) updated.
and why my arab horse breaks so often :(((
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Using a courser and a lance and nothing else, I am losing money. This is unfair to cavalry; horse price should be decreased.
Get good at using cav then you get multis, then you make money. I suck at cav and still made money whilst wearing all my gear & finished the build with my highest K/d yet.
8 riding is beastly, makes roaming around 360 lancing hilarious. xD