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Title: Shields breake too easily
Post by: darmaster on June 14, 2011, 01:49:22 pm
i was using my 4th char, and shields i breake too fast imo.. don't know what you think.. AND, those FUCKING POLEARMS (EXPECIALLY GREAT AXES) ARE A DITO IN CULO.. :l
Title: Re: Shields breake too easily
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 14, 2011, 01:50:13 pm
Out of idle curiosity, what shield are you using that is breaking so fast?
Title: Re: Shields breake too easily
Post by: Tzar on June 14, 2011, 01:50:40 pm
Hmn my shielder does just fine hes using a steel shield tho... i admit that i just put away my shield when im up against anti shield weapons makes sense  :?:
Title: Re: Shields breake too easily
Post by: Malaclypse on June 14, 2011, 02:28:37 pm
Disagree. My first dood had 7 shield skill and a heater shield (green one with a crescent moon on it), and that shit like seriously, broke four times in the entire generation, and three of those were against axes.
Title: Re: Shields breake too easily
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on June 14, 2011, 02:28:53 pm
only cowards use shield  8-)
Title: Re: Shields breake too easily
Post by: Mala on June 14, 2011, 04:52:21 pm
Hmm, before the shield nerf my buckler was broken after five axe hits ( with shield skill 9 it took sixe, yeah).
Now it takes three hits and it is gone.
Together with the hitstun i have one counter attack left before it breaks.
Title: Re: Shields breake too easily
Post by: Seawied on June 14, 2011, 04:58:59 pm
My shielder's shield does not break often. Only time it does is against an axe wielder, and that's perfectly fine. Weapons with a bonus to shields are often "unbalanced" and are much weaker in other situations.

I use the elite cavalry shield with 4 shield skill.
Title: Re: Shields breake too easily
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 14, 2011, 05:07:40 pm
Quote from: Mala on June 14, 2011, 04:52:21 pm
Hmm, before the shield nerf my buckler was broken after five axe hits ( with shield skill 9 it took sixe, yeah).
Now it takes three hits and it is gone.
Together with the hitstun i have one counter attack left before it breaks.

On the other hand the high armour means that against any non-bonus-against-shield weapon the thing is practically invincible.
Title: Re: Shields breake too easily
Post by: Mala on June 14, 2011, 06:16:49 pm
Quote from: Tears_of_Destiny on June 14, 2011, 05:07:40 pm
On the other hand the high armour means that against any non-bonus-against-shield weapon the thing is practically invincible.

Not really. Against a flamberg it does not last that long as well.
Ok, i have no problem that my shield lose against a shield breaking weapon, but i have invested a lot of skill points and traded reach and damage for some "theoretically" easy blocks and gain nearly nothing.
I was fine with the 5 to 6 hits, that gave me some leeway. And now the icon shows only some small cutting marks and bang  in the very next moment my shield is gone.
Title: Re: Shields breake too easily
Post by: Bulzur on June 14, 2011, 07:05:27 pm
Quote from: Mala on June 14, 2011, 06:16:49 pm
Not really. Against a flamberg it does not last that long as well.
Ok, i have no problem that my shield lose against a shield breaking weapon, but i have invested a lot of skill points and traded reach and damage for some "theoretically" easy blocks and gain nearly nothing.
I was fine with the 5 to 6 hits, that gave me some leeway. And now the icon shows only some small cutting marks and bang  in the very next moment my shield is gone.

Don't use a buckler then. The best thing versus "bonus against shield weapons" are HP shield, and yet you use a buckler and find it wrong that an axe takes it down in 2/3 hits.

The heavy hitter and kite shield withstand 4 hits with my 6 PS 40 cut war axe. And i'm dead if the opponent got a spamming weapon. That's the game, and it should stay like this.

I find shields pretty well balanced at the moment : No normal weapon can damage your steel buckler, nor any arrow. But a weapon with sole purpose to destroy shields can. Incredible.
Title: Re: Shields breake too easily
Post by: Mala on June 14, 2011, 07:30:50 pm
Arrows go past it, and melee weapons at the right angle too.
And i still need skill 5 for the buckler but get a shield inferior to the lower tier ones.
Yepp, that sounds right.
Title: Re: Shields breake too easily
Post by: zagibu on June 14, 2011, 09:03:37 pm
The buckler should be buffed again, it was nerfed without reason.
Title: Re: Shields breake too easily
Post by: rustyspoon on June 14, 2011, 09:17:39 pm
Quote from: Mala on June 14, 2011, 07:30:50 pm
Arrows go past it, and melee weapons at the right angle too.
And i still need skill 5 for the buckler but get a shield inferior to the lower tier ones.
Yepp, that sounds right.

Unfortunately the buckler has always been terrible and not worth its price. The balancing of shields still needs a lot more attention.
Title: Re: Shields breake too easily
Post by: darmaster on June 14, 2011, 10:57:34 pm
well i was using a steel shield (that i bought for 10k :l) that has broken in 4 hits with a german great axe, that's not fair in my opinion.. the bonus is too high maybe..
Title: Re: Shields breake too easily
Post by: jspook on June 15, 2011, 12:15:35 am
Summary:
"My shield got broken by an axe/weapon that has bounus vs shield.  Anything that is a counter to my shield is hax and must be nerfed.  my shield is invincible and I cower behind it like the blanket I slept with in my youth."

Get over it.  Just about everything in the game has a counter and you are complaining about axes?  the few weapons specifically tagged in-game to break shields?

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Title: Re: Shields breake too easily
Post by: Mala on June 15, 2011, 03:02:23 am
Deflect means to block.
Anyway it is not about to make shields invulnerable against axes but a bit more durable than now.
Title: Re: Shields breake too easily
Post by: Casimir on June 15, 2011, 03:24:19 am
Yeah buckler is shit tbh.

However huscarl shield are fucking stupid. Those things take a massive hammering.