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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: kukufarikki on June 07, 2011, 01:57:07 am

Title: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: kukufarikki on June 07, 2011, 01:57:07 am
its annoying to get kicked from being Q M L'd in combat and dying
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: Snatch on June 07, 2011, 02:41:54 am
Also announce the QMLer to the admins in admin chat, so we can see who is abusing qml.
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: Rhaelys on June 07, 2011, 02:43:18 am
its annoying to get kicked from being Q M L'd in combat and dying

This.

Also announce the QMLer to the admins in admin chat, so we can see who is abusing qml.

And this.
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: Kelugarn on June 07, 2011, 03:28:35 am
I agree, I find myself often noticing walls of maroon text mere seconds before I get hacked to bits, both of these suggestions would prevent people from abusing the leecher report nearly as much as they do.
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 07, 2011, 06:02:41 am
Yes to everything said sofar.
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: MrShine on June 07, 2011, 07:43:42 am
Yes to everything said sofar.

I agree with this man.
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: SchokoSchaf on June 07, 2011, 08:08:31 am
Yes to everything said sofar.
I agree with this man.
My opinion as well.
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: Galgorth on June 07, 2011, 09:06:19 am
I agree with this man.

My opinion as well.

I most heartily concur.
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: Cyclopsided on June 07, 2011, 09:19:12 am
+a lot
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: [ptx] on June 07, 2011, 10:11:30 am
I agree with this man.

My opinion as well.

Indeed.
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: Kafein on June 07, 2011, 10:14:07 am
I've never been reported as a leecher... Guess I'm moving all the time  :lol:

But you guys are right, this system seems to need little fixes.
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: crojosip on June 07, 2011, 11:22:28 am
Or make it so instead of the one reporting losing 1 multiplier if the person he reports is not leeching he gets kicked.
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: Phazey on June 07, 2011, 11:30:48 am
Make it so that if someone misuses the leecher-nomination system he loses that ability for an increasing period of time.

Clearly, occasionally losing a multi or getting kicked off a server once or twice does not stop people from abusing this system.

Flawed nominations should result in you losing the power to nominate for a day. If you have more than three flawed nominations in a week, you lose the ability to nominate for a month, and so forth...
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: Elerion on June 07, 2011, 11:41:39 am
You can't penalize someone for failed nomination. If you nominate someone that is clearly AFK, and then they come back within 30 seconds, you should not get penalized.

Fix the bug where you can't press M when dead, make the message appear every 5 seconds or so for the duration of the nomination (in case you missed it in battle spam), and output nominations to admin chat. That will solve 99% of the issues.
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: Bulzur on June 07, 2011, 11:44:59 am
Make it so that if someone misuses the leecher-nomination system he loses that ability for an increasing period of time.

Clearly, occasionally losing a multi or getting kicked off a server once or twice does not stop people from abusing this system.

Flawed nominations should result in you losing the power to nominate for a day. If you have more than three flawed nominations in a week, you lose the ability to nominate for a month, and so forth...

Clearly a good idea. (a bit more "chances" though )

@Elerion : If you see someone who is clearly afk, there's "i" to send a message to admin. If there's no admin, you can always poll kick for leeching/afk.  It's not penalize since you will have "chances" to report only.
But i agree there can be people faking afk, waiting for a report, then pressing M and staying idle. :S Then screenshots is the best you can do.

Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: Kafein on June 07, 2011, 11:47:06 am
I think the timer should be increased, and more importantly make it so that ANY key pressed results in the timer stopping. Leechers that try to bypass this by constantly tapping a key can do it for the m key anyway.
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: Elerion on June 07, 2011, 11:57:22 am
@Elerion : If you see someone who is clearly afk, there's "i" to send a message to admin. If there's no admin, you can always poll kick for leeching/afk.  It's not penalize since you will have "chances" to report only.
The entire point of the system is to have a self-policing system that doesn't require admin interaction. Any limits placed on the system should be aimed at stopping abuse, not stopping legitimate intended use.
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: Cepeshi on June 12, 2011, 08:41:25 am
So far i have seen this tool more misused to piss people off than it actually getting rid of leechers...i have been voted mid fight by the same player several times on few maps ... fucking retarded
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: Kabookie on June 12, 2011, 08:44:04 am
A while ago someone did it to me about 20 seconds after I spawned.
I was typing a reply to an admins question when it happened.
So infuriating! Grrr
Title: Re: fix Q M L so you can hit M when dead
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on June 12, 2011, 11:27:39 am
You can't penalize someone for failed nomination. If you nominate someone that is clearly AFK, and then they come back within 30 seconds, you should not get penalized.

Fix the bug where you can't press M when dead, make the message appear every 5 seconds or so for the duration of the nomination (in case you missed it in battle spam), and output nominations to admin chat. That will solve 99% of the issues.
+1 i totally agree with you

@Elerion : If you see someone who is clearly afk, there's "i" to send a message to admin. If there's no admin, you can always poll kick for leeching/afk.  It's not penalize since you will have "chances" to report only.
But i agree there can be people faking afk, waiting for a report, then pressing M and staying idle. :S Then screenshots is the best you can do.
What you are saying is totally absurd. You're are telling him tham his fixes isn't good because qml should have never existed. Qml has een clearly set to counter the increasing number of leecher. Before Qml if no admin and no pollkick you couldn't remove leecher. Moreover sometimes pollkick didn't pass because player didn't look at chat and just always voted "2". However,  We are not discussing whether to remove qml or not , but how to fix it to avoid glitches.