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Strategus => Faction Halls => Topic started by: Archimedes on June 02, 2011, 03:59:50 am
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Hello, everyone. I havent been playing CRPG for very long and am still on my first generation character, although Ive been playing Mount&Blade since the beta. However, with Strategus (hopefully) approaching, I began looking for a clan to play with, since it seems that playing without one is much more difficult. When I made my character, however, I decided to do an Arabic theme (obviously) since M&B is already full of Vikings, Medieval Europeans, and Japanese players. However, I was saddened to find that there arent any clans with an Arabic or Persian theme. I wanted to ask the community if there was any interest from clanless or otherwise available players in forming an Arabic/Persian/Syrian clan?
As far as the focus of the clan, Im a bit of a history nerd and would like to focus on an early Islamic theme (Abbasid dynasty, most likely) but Id be happy with any period of Islamic history (Arabic, Berber, Persian, Semitic, etc.) about 600-1500. Level of roleplay would be up to members, and Im fine with either keeping the theme purely cosmetic or focusing on more RP, depending on what people are interested in.
In any case, if anyones intrigued (and available), put down a reply and well see if theres enough interest to get this moving. If theres enough support, Ill start organizing and contacting people directly. And if not, this thread can just die quietly and Ill have to go back to clan-searching. :D
PS: I didn't really want to include this, but it seemed prudent. I'm not religious and this clan would not be for those looking for an Islamic clan, but rather an Islamic-themed clan. I have no problems with people of any faith or none expressing interest and joining, just wanted to be clear what was being offered. :)
EDIT: Spelling/Grammar
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we're islam and we'll ræp all yuropan wimmin in the name of admiral ackbar.
blow the horn, bang the drum!
bashibazouks are coming to town!
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we're islam and we'll ræp all yuropan wimmin in the name of admiral ackbar.
blow the horn, bang the drum!
bashibazouks are coming to town!
Riiiiiiiight.
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Riiiiiiiight.
oh i forgot to say, we'll also wipe all the ham out of their dishes.
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y u no liek ham :(
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Sounds good, hope there are some few that dont see the islam as the whole of the clan... just the arabic style.
Arabs werent bad fighter back then, they are conquerors.
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Could set up really neat RP with some of the Crusader clans...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqnUVjclVHE
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And why Thimotheus, why they can't be only muslim, why arabian not muslim?
I don't understand, the faction hall is full of crusader clans and god wills it bullshit...
Btw at this time, islam enlighten the meditarenean with his philosophy and sciences, catholics were retarded barbarians.
When muslim enter spain and portugal, folks were happy cos they won more liberty and tolerance...
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And why Thimotheus, why they can't be only muslim, why arabian not muslim?
I don't understand, the faction hall is full of crusader clans and god wills it bullshit...
Btw at this time, islam enlighten the meditarenean with his philosophy and sciences, catholics were retarded barbarians.
When muslim enter spain and portugal, folks were happy cos they won more liberty and tolerance...
I got something for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game)
&
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype)
R.
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And why Thimotheus, why they can't be only muslim, why arabian not muslim?
I don't understand, the faction hall is full of crusader clans and god wills it bullshit...
Btw at this time, islam enlighten the meditarenean with his philosophy and sciences, catholics were retarded barbarians.
When muslim enter spain and portugal, folks were happy cos they won more liberty and tolerance...
Oh really, Im portuguese and thats not what our school and history books tell us...
Hmm right!
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Oh really, Im portuguese and thats not what our school and history books tell us...
Hmm right!
did you books speak of the inquisition?
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Nop, mostly because of my country being fannaticly christian back in the middle age :/
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As long as you don't play that godawful mosque music in the middle of the night like you're used to.
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Btw at this time, islam enlighten the meditarenean with his philosophy and sciences, catholics were retarded barbarians.
When muslim enter spain and portugal, folks were happy cos they won more liberty and tolerance...
Becareful m8 when u speak of history be sure u really know history... What u said is half true not the truth :wink:
Btw this isn't the place for this discussion...
Welcome to the new clan :mrgreen:
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And why Thimotheus, why they can't be only muslim, why arabian not muslim?
I don't understand, the faction hall is full of crusader clans and god wills it bullshit...
Btw at this time, islam enlighten the meditarenean with his philosophy and sciences, catholics were retarded barbarians.
When muslim enter spain and portugal, folks were happy cos they won more liberty and tolerance...
Actually when the moors ruled Hiberia, the jews and christians had to pay Jizzah and follow certain rules made by them. Practically.... they were second class citizens in their own land. No wonder the the moors got screwed in the end ;)
And this comes from a RL Moor ;)
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Pellegrino is right that this thread is not the place to discuss the comparative virtues of Christianity and Islam. All Ill say is that the shape and nature of religions change drastically depending upon where and when they are practiced. Islam under the Umayyad Arabs was understood quite differently than it would be in al-Andalus a hundred years later by Arabs, Berbers, and Iberians. Similarly, the Christianity of the Papacy in 1215 differs quite a bit from the Christianity of Syrian Christians in the eighth century.
As to the place of Islam in this (potential) clan, personal belief in Islam would not be a requirement for entrance. However, you cannot accurately portray an Arab or a host of other racial groups in the Middle East, Africa, and Europe without integrating Islam as part of their identity. As such, Islam would play a large part in the naming structure and RP of the group and would define what armor is acceptable for members. It would not, however, be the Islamic parallel to the crusading clans. Primarily because, although Islam understood the idea of jihād to be a religious duty, there was never the proliferation of dedicated orders that characterized crusading. Additionally, while a crusade was seen as an individual, penitential duty to ones soul, jihād (the lesser jihād, anyway) was usually seen as an obligation of the Muslim polity.
So, for those tl;dr folks: Yes, Islam would be an important part of the RP of this clan. Yes, it would be awesome to do some RP organization with the crusader clans. :D No, this clan would not be about jihād and nothing else.
So, for those interested, please let me know in the replies or PM me personally.
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Hey dude thats what we will probably do in strat just crusade against EVERYBODY :D!
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I'm down with this ;)
We should try to get saracen armor to cRPg tho ;) They look wicked, saw it somewhere on Taleworlds. Also, camels.
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I'm glad to see that some of you have real good historical references.
My point was not to make a parallel between each religion, but i try to make the light between muslim and islamist, ancient and present time (and the vision of ppl with stereotype) and especially to say it's good that there is a muslim clan among all the clans of crusaders!!
so good luck with your clan!!
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And catholics werent a bunch of barbarians :rolleyes:
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Well, it seems as though interest in a clan is lukewarm (although interest in historical/political discussions is not :D). Ill give this post one shameless bump and see what happens. As Ive said, put down a reply or a PM if youre intrigued and perhaps we can put something together. Thanks for your time, everyone.
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I like this idea alot, I am a new (ish) player myself and have been looking around for a themed clan like you sugested.
So yes, i support this.
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And why Thimotheus, why they can't be only muslim, why arabian not muslim?
Well the arabs with berbers were extraordinary warriors that made the "arab storm" which expansion didnt stop until the borders of France. I am sure I never heard of Somali muslims conquering Ireland...
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Stop whining, join the mighty army of the Turks; Kapikulu:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,7527.0.html
8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
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