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Title: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Grumbs on May 05, 2018, 06:37:50 pm
EU1 is empty and I would probably play if there were like 20+ players but there isn't even that many. I blame Kingdom Come: Deliverance and the lack of different types of players in the balance team
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: kasMVC on May 05, 2018, 06:53:18 pm
I used to play eu. This is what is wrong with your server. NOT kingdom come deliverance (which turned out to be super shitty anyways) and not the dev team.

You get into EU 1. Your entire team is sitting around waiting for range to run out of ammo.

You survive getting shot twice and have half health. It's a good round. You didn't get insta head shot at the start by the 20 people playing range.

You and 4 other people are facing off 6 enemy melee. You charge in. You turn around and see your teammates all ran off to gank a peasant.

Everyone skeys or they just run off to find less people than they have to gank.

But mainly ya'll hate each other. NA has never cared about being good but about being part of a community at large. I can message some HOC guy who still hates me and tell him to get online and play in na1. We have a steam group simply to get people to populate the server. You guys need to come together and build something great again


Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: traxits on May 05, 2018, 07:35:47 pm
can confirm with what cikel said. i hate a huge majority of NA yet when i get a steam message or discord thing saying to hop on fuck yeah i'll give er a go and see what happens
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Yeldur on May 05, 2018, 09:14:33 pm
I tried starting up EU1 recently, a spam of announcements both on discord and in the steam group as well as me hopping into the DTV server for bundle of stickss and spamming EU1, nobody showed up.
I don't play because most of EU are retards who just want to play their gay defend the shitstain mode, far as i'm concerned they should just shut down eu servers and move all their efforts into NA. Least they actually get some use out of it.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Leesin on May 05, 2018, 09:31:32 pm
I tried starting up EU1 recently, a spam of announcements both on discord and in the steam group as well as me hopping into the DTV server for bundle of stickss and spamming EU1, nobody showed up.
I don't play because most of EU are retards who just want to play their gay defend the shitstain mode, far as i'm concerned they should just shut down eu servers and move all their efforts into NA. Least they actually get some use out of it.

Yeah at this point I'd just shut down the DTV servers just to spite them, they serve no purpose to CRPG.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Casul on May 05, 2018, 10:41:07 pm
Indeed NA is just so much more balanced and chill, its really fun and relaxing to play there. It feels like one huge family and youre a foreigner entering a pub full of drunk rednecks and hillbillys while getting a drink for free just for joining them
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Grumbs on May 05, 2018, 10:53:22 pm
I might be jumping to conclusions this early on, but according to the poll results it seems like the way to fix EU1 is to:

1: Make people play EU1
2: Get balancers that play more than just ranged
3: Find people that have no life and make them play
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Leshma on May 05, 2018, 11:37:56 pm
life
give them run
nothing will make me play

in that particular order

You need new kids and to get new kids you need complete overhaul, to get complete overhaul you need new devs. i applied for dev position few weeks ago and i'm so glad no one contacted me because i'm starting my own company soon and doubt i'll have time for it. People with serious life changing commitments and those with children usually don't have time to play. Kudos to PEPE who somehow managed to play whole day while having wife and kids.

Wiping stuff won't get you new players because mod is terribly dated, in graphical sense and game design wise. You can't change graphics much you need Bannerlord for that, but you can change game mechanics.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Leshma on May 05, 2018, 11:44:30 pm
Indeed NA is just so much more balanced and chill, its really fun and relaxing to play there. It feels like one huge family and youre a foreigner entering a pub full of drunk rednecks and hillbillys while getting a drink for free just for joining them

It was always like that. Only time EU felt similarly was when Pecores had stable 220 peeps population, when EU1 had issues. Ever since we came back to EU1 with new mod mechanics (upkeep patch and rest of crap that came with it), population on EU servers was infested with Merc type of players, tryhard nazi loving dipshits like Oberyn.

On Pecores during XP barn maps you felt like random peasant on the battlefield, there were few heroes pulling strings but your effort wasn't in vain. That feeling was great. Ever since transition to multiplier system heroes became even more important but randomers were served bag of shit for game experience until they got gud... then started native like masturbation over skill and that rift you needed to overcome to start having fun in the mod. Age of masochism started but on NA was different, they kept their chill attitude through every transition and skill was never touted as the most important thing on public NA1 server. It was always about having fun.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Algarn on May 06, 2018, 02:05:18 am
Mostly because it's empty.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on May 06, 2018, 05:26:05 am
Melee isnt fun, kills are unsatisfactory, progression is gone when you have everything and map cycle has been poopie. There are honestly so many good games out there right now. Every time i come back to try to repopulate servers, i notice how the game just doesnt live up to the memories. While a progression wipe may but probably wont bring me back, going back to some old version of the mod would. Ive been playing private servers emulating old versions of MMOs recently, and they always seem to hold up.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Jona on May 06, 2018, 06:18:33 am
You guys need to come together and build something great again

MEUGA
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Tibes on May 06, 2018, 10:18:52 pm
Seriuslly, have you "why u no play crpg?" guys even visited steam in recent years? Theres so much good shit out and this mod and basegame old af. Dont really care about balance. Honestly I wouldnt play cRPG more then an hour a week anymore even if it was the most balanced game in the universe. Theres just too much different new games out by now, that pretty much every type of person can find a game that gives them more pleasure for a longer period of time then this mod.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Golem on May 06, 2018, 10:30:41 pm
I blame Bannerlord not being released. No wait I blame OKAM taking players to a secluded parking lot and then executing them.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Krex on May 06, 2018, 11:27:41 pm
Personally, I haven't actively played since EU2 lost its population. That's why I'm not playing.
I understand that that is different for most people that still visit these forums, but that's my reason.
I also understand that most of you won't populating EU2 any time soon. And that's fine.

Siege was always the most fun part of cRPG to me and I've never liked playing Battle or DTV. It's the other way around on every single other mod I've ever played, but that's how it is on cRPG.

so: tl;dr: no eu2, no me. but that's fine.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Tibes on May 07, 2018, 07:24:54 am
I blame Bannerlord not being released. No wait I blame OKAM taking players to a secluded parking lot and then executing them.

I sometimes think about OKAM and how some players nolifed to 200-400 hours of playtime on duel, to have the competitive edge, when the game really popularizes. Unfortunately for those poor bastards, they completely wasted their time, since that combat system was so niche, the skills gotten there wont translate to any other game...Theres a lesson to be learned here boys. Dont try to git gud in shacky af MP indie titles.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Ikarus on May 07, 2018, 11:22:30 am
EU is ded
I got a life

been too productive lately, not bothering with games until I get a job
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: njames89 on May 07, 2018, 12:45:33 pm
No option for I'm NA and still playing.

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Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on May 07, 2018, 03:17:36 pm
I sometimes think about OKAM and how some players nolifed to 200-400 hours of playtime on duel, to have the competitive edge, when the game really popularizes. Unfortunately for those poor bastards, they completely wasted their time, since that combat system was so niche, the skills gotten there wont translate to any other game...Theres a lesson to be learned here boys. Dont try to git gud in shacky af MP indie titles.

What if they had fun learning tho? Time spent having fun aint wasted  8-)
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Zergmar on May 07, 2018, 05:11:37 pm
I always liked Siege, which is even more dead than EU1.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Zeus_ on May 07, 2018, 05:23:42 pm
I play a different game, it's called NA c-rpg
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Tibes on May 07, 2018, 05:49:46 pm
What if they had fun learning tho? Time spent having fun aint wasted  8-)

I doubt that spending 200+ hours in OKAM duel mode was really anyones idea of fun. :lol: Even with good company, okam wasnt really that enjoyable. I mean it wasnt a terrible, just awfully mediocre.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Casul on May 07, 2018, 06:17:15 pm
I doubt that spending 200+ hours in OKAM duel mode was really anyones idea of fun. :lol: Even with good company, okam wasnt really that enjoyable. I mean it wasnt a terrible, just awfully mediocre.

wait is oKaM out yet??
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Ikarus on May 07, 2018, 06:27:33 pm
wait is oKaM out yet??

click the 0:00:00:00-link on top of this page to find out
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Tibes on May 07, 2018, 06:55:36 pm
wait is oKaM out yet??

Yeah, outside, behind the barn, buried.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on May 07, 2018, 07:52:42 pm
I doubt that spending 200+ hours in OKAM duel mode was really anyones idea of fun. :lol: Even with good company, okam wasnt really that enjoyable. I mean it wasnt a terrible, just awfully mediocre.

Well exactly, you got to enjoy it to be able to play it that much. The only games i can spend loads of time practicing in are games i enjoy seeing myself improve in. But it is funny that it ultimately didnt lead to anything further.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Rando on May 09, 2018, 07:29:05 am
36 votes for "EU1 is empty." Think on how retarded this is.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Deus Immortalis on May 09, 2018, 04:39:02 pm
36 votes for "EU1 is empty." Think on how retarded this is.

Ye, you tell me

There's sometimes 20 players on DTV and then whenever you suggest to go to battle they're like 'nah'
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: zottlmarsch on May 09, 2018, 06:07:17 pm
Where is option: because Krems killed the mod?
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 09, 2018, 07:51:49 pm
EU seemed to almost always be a bunch of try hards wanting to 1v1 the whole other team.  No team work, and if ranged fucks up their duel fest (aka 2h kuyak/weaboo warriors) they bitch and cry on forums for devs to nerf ranged.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Gnjus on May 12, 2018, 06:21:46 pm
Indeed NA is just so much more balanced and chill, its really fun and relaxing to play there. It feels like one huge family and youre a foreigner entering a pub full of drunk rednecks and hillbillys while getting a drink for free just for joining them

EU used to be like that but then some brain-dead morons decided to form a certain clan themed around hamburgers & kremschnittes. The rest is history.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Heibai on May 12, 2018, 08:59:57 pm
EU used to be like that but then some brain-dead morons decided to form a certain clan themed around hamburgers & kremschnittes. The rest is history.

You misunderstood Cassi, current NA is exactly like EU when some brain-dead morons decided to form a certain clan themed around hamburgers & kremschnittes.

That's Cassi's perception of "balanced and chill" and "really fun and relaxing to play".
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Tindel on May 13, 2018, 12:15:57 am
To many ranged to play on EU1, and EU2 is empty.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Leshma on May 13, 2018, 01:07:51 am
EU seemed to almost always be a bunch of try hards wanting to 1v1 the whole other team.  No team work, and if ranged fucks up their duel fest (aka 2h kuyak/weaboo warriors) they bitch and cry on forums for devs to nerf ranged.

Khorin, Shanks and me were good guy EU 2h heroes but our builds were nerfed by balancers. Basically how I played 2h was: go alone to enemy base, scout for ranged, wait behind a tree until they get in their first person mode, come from behind and slaughter as many I can. Some turds found that lame, mostly those duel me bruh tryhards. Danish GS used to one hit kill archers with agi build before all the changed to game mechanics.

Don't shit on weboos, what their clan did was elimination of ranged units. It was always just cause and best way to nerf ranged was playing anti ranged classes.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on May 13, 2018, 01:40:26 am
Khorin, Shanks and me were good guy EU 2h heroes but our builds were nerfed by balancers. Basically how I played 2h was: go alone to enemy base, scout for ranged, wait behind a tree until they get in their first person mode, come from behind and slaughter as many I can. Some turds found that lame, mostly those duel me bruh tryhards. Danish GS used to one hit kill archers with agi build before all the changed to game mechanics.

Don't shit on weboos, what their clan did was elimination of ranged units. It was always just cause and best way to nerf ranged was playing anti ranged classes.

You had a fucked up style, everytime you were on i would spot you running some absurd path around the map. Fun times.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: jtobiasm on May 13, 2018, 03:26:31 pm
Don't shit on weboos, what their clan did was elimination of ranged units. It was always just cause and best way to nerf ranged was playing anti ranged classes.

Or be thomek and ban them
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Leshma on May 13, 2018, 05:08:34 pm
To be fair to him, when Thomek was fulfilling his admin duties we have healthy and active player base.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Elmetiacos on May 13, 2018, 05:37:47 pm
EU1 is dead? Even EU7 is dead now. Once upon a time I used to play battle all the time, but down the years I got put off. It seemed weird that, after a year with no crpg at all, players suddenly come back and play like superheroes with the reflexes of Olympic fencers. I said back in 2011 that I thought there was an autoblock cheat, got called paranoid only for the mods to start kicking people for using an autoblock cheat two weeks later. No matter what anyone says there is definitely a growth in hacks in Native and it would be surprising if it hadn't spilled over into crpg. Hackers will gradually kill any PvP game.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Leesin on May 13, 2018, 06:43:19 pm
EU1 is dead? Even EU7 is dead now. Once upon a time I used to play battle all the time, but down the years I got put off. It seemed weird that, after a year with no crpg at all, players suddenly come back and play like superheroes with the reflexes of Olympic fencers. I said back in 2011 that I thought there was an autoblock cheat, got called paranoid only for the mods to start kicking people for using an autoblock cheat two weeks later. No matter what anyone says there is definitely a growth in hacks in Native and it would be surprising if it hadn't spilled over into crpg. Hackers will gradually kill any PvP game.

Stop smoking crack
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Bittersteel on May 13, 2018, 08:10:09 pm
EU1 is dead? Even EU7 is dead now. Once upon a time I used to play battle all the time, but down the years I got put off. It seemed weird that, after a year with no crpg at all, players suddenly come back and play like superheroes with the reflexes of Olympic fencers. I said back in 2011 that I thought there was an autoblock cheat, got called paranoid only for the mods to start kicking people for using an autoblock cheat two weeks later. No matter what anyone says there is definitely a growth in hacks in Native and it would be surprising if it hadn't spilled over into crpg. Hackers will gradually kill any PvP game.

lol ur just garbage, someone mute ras frenzys literate twin
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Heibai on May 13, 2018, 10:18:33 pm
EU1 is dead? Even EU7 is dead now. Once upon a time I used to play battle all the time, but down the years I got put off. It seemed weird that, after a year with no crpg at all, players suddenly come back and play like superheroes with the reflexes of Olympic fencers. I said back in 2011 that I thought there was an autoblock cheat, got called paranoid only for the mods to start kicking people for using an autoblock cheat two weeks later. No matter what anyone says there is definitely a growth in hacks in Native and it would be surprising if it hadn't spilled over into crpg. Hackers will gradually kill any PvP game.

Not trying to sound rude, but blaming other people hacking without any evidence beside you getting destroyed is a very shitty attitude.

I see you mostly play DTV, but once in a while I saw you also on EU1. You always switched to spec right before dying or when you had to fight someone 1v1, I remember you running away from me for a whole minute while someone from my team was standing at the flag, another time you were standing still and left the game when I was getting closer and started a swing.

How about trying another class or gamestyle beside 1h and 2h if you're not that great at duelling? I mean, I did the same when I started with cRPG and went with piking and my results were more than decent, I rarely touched any 4d weapons back then, because I'd get destroyed in 1v1 anyway against most people. (losing duels with 1d/2d weapons are also less embarrassing :mrgreen:)

I could say more, but it's kinda pointless now, since EU is dead and you probably won't play EU1 for a long long time.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on May 13, 2018, 11:22:06 pm
EU1 is dead? Even EU7 is dead now. Once upon a time I used to play battle all the time, but down the years I got put off. It seemed weird that, after a year with no crpg at all, players suddenly come back and play like superheroes with the reflexes of Olympic fencers. I said back in 2011 that I thought there was an autoblock cheat, got called paranoid only for the mods to start kicking people for using an autoblock cheat two weeks later. No matter what anyone says there is definitely a growth in hacks in Native and it would be surprising if it hadn't spilled over into crpg. Hackers will gradually kill any PvP game.

Calling out hacks here too, not just on mount&siege? How come siege is alive if there are hackers there then? Even if there were hackers on crpg, its too hard to notice for it to have any impact on actual enjoyment.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Elmetiacos on May 14, 2018, 12:12:34 am
Calling out hacks here too, not just on mount&siege? How come siege is alive if there are hackers there then? Even if there were hackers on crpg, its too hard to notice for it to have any impact on actual enjoyment.
It's 100% certain there are hackers on Native/NeoGK servers, I've seen people walk through walls, outrun horses and other obvious cheats like one that uses the "Allow bot headshots" code. There's a suite of hacks advertised on YouTube. People have been kicked from captain battles for obvious hacking within the last couple of weeks. The thing about M&S is that there are generally about 100 people playing so the impact of a few hackers is much less. Are you seriously suggesting there is no cheating going on?
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on May 14, 2018, 12:20:53 am
It's 100% certain there are hackers on Native/NeoGK servers, I've seen people walk through walls, outrun horses and other obvious cheats like one that uses the "Allow bot headshots" code. There's a suite of hacks advertised on YouTube. People have been kicked from captain battles for obvious hacking within the last couple of weeks. The thing about M&S is that there are generally about 100 people playing so the impact of a few hackers is much less. Are you seriously suggesting there is no cheating going on?

Im saying that even if there are cheaters their impact is so small and unnoticable that it has nearly no impact on other players enjoyment. The most notable "cheat" that could possibly make people pissed is macro feinting. These servers dont die due to hacks.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Kadeth on May 14, 2018, 03:29:11 am
The Cheating Hackers Killed EU cRPG
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Asheram on May 14, 2018, 04:02:00 am
It's 100% certain there are hackers on Native/NeoGK servers, I've seen people walk through walls, outrun horses and other obvious cheats like one that uses the "Allow bot headshots" code. There's a suite of hacks advertised on YouTube. People have been kicked from captain battles for obvious hacking within the last couple of weeks. The thing about M&S is that there are generally about 100 people playing so the impact of a few hackers is much less. Are you seriously suggesting there is no cheating going on?
Absolutely no cheating going on whatsoever bro.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Jona on May 14, 2018, 05:12:30 pm
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The only way this is real is if it exploits the autoblock cheat by attacking as soon as it lowers its block, or something to that effect. You can't download a cheat that completely rewrites the server-side collision detection. In other words, it won't work on someone who just blocks normally.

That said, it wouldn't surprise me if this video was just entirely fake.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Elmetiacos on May 14, 2018, 05:16:06 pm
I see you mostly play DTV, but once in a while I saw you also on EU1. You always switched to spec right before dying or when you had to fight someone 1v1, I remember you running away from me for a whole minute while someone from my team was standing at the flag, another time you were standing still and left the game when I was getting closer and started a swing.
This is getting off topic, but I remember that: I had no health left and your team had won anyway, so was I supposed to walk out and be killed so you could put Hot Chick's head on your wall? The trouble is that once the brief explosion in numbers was over, EU1 became once again a server with about 10 duellists, mostly 2H or polearm players: one or two may have been cheating to keep pace with the ultra-hardcore players but it almost doesn't matter: always getting killed and being on perpetual x1 gets boring for anyone else and so, like me, people just quit or go spec - or they turn to using hacks. I'm not blaming the duellists for being good at what they do, but the fall in numbers make it no fun for anyone else who isn't prepared to cheat to keep pace.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Dalhi on May 14, 2018, 05:39:52 pm
The only way this is real is if it exploits the autoblock cheat by attacking as soon as it lowers its block, or something to that effect. You can't download a cheat that completely rewrites the server-side collision detection. In other words, it won't work on someone who just blocks normally.

That said, it wouldn't surprise me if this video was just entirely fake.


Unblockable Attacks
This hack works by exploiting an engine bug and is currently the most game breaking cheat out there.
The hack triggers after the player starts a melee attack, it simply executes the attack from a different direction (which the weapon does not support).
The engine executes the invalid attack, but keeps playing the animation of the initial attack/direction.
So it's impossible for other players to block the attack.


Players in cRPG are crazy good so I doubt if there is, or rather was as mo_d is dea_d, any real issue with using any of the available cheats.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Jona on May 14, 2018, 06:56:03 pm
Players in cRPG are crazy good so I doubt if there is, or rather was as mo_d is dea_d, any real issue with using any of the available cheats.

Interesting... I wonder if that bug ever got patched. Anyways, I've definitely never encountered someone using this (or any similar) cheats in crpg as it'd be fairly obvious, tbh, and there's only ever been one instance where I'm convinced that someone was using macros. Back in the day I think there was someone that got banned for autoblocking, but even then in a heavily populated server it wasn't all that oppressive as they could still get ganked. For the most part, people complaining about hacks just need to git gud.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Taser on May 14, 2018, 08:04:33 pm
Interesting... I wonder if that bug ever got patched. Anyways, I've definitely never encountered someone using this (or any similar) cheats in crpg as it'd be fairly obvious, tbh, and there's only ever been one instance where I'm convinced that someone was using macros. Back in the day I think there was someone that got banned for autoblocking, but even then in a heavily populated server it wasn't all that oppressive as they could still get ganked. For the most part, people complaining about hacks just need to git gud.

Crymoar?
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: njames89 on May 14, 2018, 08:14:21 pm
I would play EU after work but mainly don't because I don't see others on EU1. Is there an EU1 steamgroup?
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Jona on May 14, 2018, 08:55:24 pm
Crymoar?

Idk... I was referring to Harmless_Peasant. Only ever heard rumors of their banning, not even sure if they were true or not. But they did disappear rather suddenly when they had previously been a siege regular.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Elmetiacos on May 14, 2018, 09:59:08 pm
Back in 2011 or 2012 there were quite a few people being banned for using the autoblock cheat, chadz posted a list of them. I didn't even know about this "unblockable" cheat, and I very rarely play as a 2H on EU1 anyway, but it does explain why I have been obviously hit through blocks in Native and why on one or two occasions I've successfully defended even when I know I made a wrong block.

As I said, there is a "suite" of hacks available from a site somewhere which includes; autoblocking, clipping through walls,  an aimbot, speed hack and zoom-out. I am also 99% sure there's another hack which uses the "allow bot headshots" code: if you play a lot of DTV you may notice bots always shoot you in the chest and then the game turns it into a headshot... I started to notice this happening in Native and the clincher was one day in a Deathmatch there was an archer topping the kills table with headshot after headshot after headshot. I took a 2H and ran at him, bending over like I would against a DTV bot and now this amazing archer put every shot over my head, just like a bot would. I killed him.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Taser on May 14, 2018, 10:01:15 pm
Idk... I was referring to Harmless_Peasant. Only ever heard rumors of their banning, not even sure if they were true or not. But they did disappear rather suddenly when they had previously been a siege regular.

Yeah same. Only rumors but they did disappear very quickly. Who knows.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Jona on May 14, 2018, 10:23:48 pm
it does explain why I have been obviously hit through blocks in Native and why on one or two occasions I've successfully defended even when I know I made a wrong block.

Uh yeah, 99.999% of those are due to lag. Either way, why complain about Native being full of hackers when you can instead be working towards repopulating a hacker-free EU crpg?
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Elmetiacos on May 15, 2018, 12:03:07 am
Uh yeah, 99.999% of those are due to lag. Either way, why complain about Native being full of hackers when you can instead be working towards repopulating a hacker-free EU crpg?
Most are due to lag - although that wouldn't explain why the wrong block works - but there's been an occasional attack which has gone through a clearly correct and in place block. I've never said it was "full of hackers" just that there are obviously a minority of players who clearly are hacking and it's wrong to say that nobody is a cheat.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Oberyn on May 15, 2018, 12:06:14 am
If it's obvious why aren't they being reported. Seems like you could shut this down easily with a recording software and some time.

The obvious cheats being used are more likely texture changes like the gay purple arrows and transparent walls, not autoblock and aimbots, both of which are pretty fucking useless. The only people using them on cRPG were nameless nobodies who sucked terribly at the game.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Oberyn on May 15, 2018, 12:09:24 am
Always a fun read

http://forum.melee.org/global/autoblocker-unban-thread/
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Oberyn on May 15, 2018, 12:18:30 am
Speaking of, is cRPG still monitoring autoblock usage, or was that one of cmp's personal pet projects?
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Asheram on May 15, 2018, 01:51:36 am
Most are due to lag - although that wouldn't explain why the wrong block works - but there's been an occasional attack which has gone through a clearly correct and in place block. I've never said it was "full of hackers" just that there are obviously a minority of players who clearly are hacking and it's wrong to say that nobody is a cheat.
How long ago did you see all this was it before or after Warband & GKtdm added the anti cheat program sometime mid to late last year?
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on May 15, 2018, 03:18:07 am
Speaking of, is cRPG still monitoring autoblock usage, or was that one of cmp's personal pet projects?

yes, i have a log of it. No one has been using it recently but man the names on that list are pretty funny
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Kadeth on May 15, 2018, 03:34:02 am
yes, i have a log of it. No one has been using it recently but man the names on that list are pretty funny

I remember seeing that list when I was badmin, it came as no surprise that there were almost no good players on it
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Heibai on May 15, 2018, 07:08:56 am
yes, i have a log of it. No one has been using it recently but man the names on that list are pretty funny

Check again
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Elmetiacos on May 15, 2018, 12:01:24 pm
How long ago did you see all this was it before or after Warband & GKtdm added the anti cheat program sometime mid to late last year?
I honestly couldn't say. Obvious "this must be a hack, that was a definite block" has been rare, and only once or maybe twice have I noticed a failed block that worked anyway. I can say I've seen definite speed hacking on a neoGK server within the last couple of weeks: two players using the nicks VOTAN and Fingolfin were kicked for it.
Title: Re: EU: Why aren't you playing?
Post by: Nickleback on May 15, 2018, 08:26:47 pm
I remember seeing that list when I was badmin, it came as no surprise that there were almost no good players on it
definneee good playerssss