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Title: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: slickster on May 31, 2011, 06:58:09 pm
There is a 30sec pause before I actually swing my sword.  What stats do I need to improve so that it's not so predictable?

20 str
15 agi
143 1h wpf
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: Baggy on May 31, 2011, 07:02:06 pm
get better internet
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: slickster on May 31, 2011, 07:03:22 pm
that was an exaggeration dippy.... get better weed
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: DesertEagle on May 31, 2011, 07:06:04 pm
Quote
30sec
u live on a Moon? :)
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: slickster on May 31, 2011, 07:08:09 pm
ok, it's only a pause before i swing.  Didn't realize ya'll were so simple
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: Belhade on May 31, 2011, 07:12:45 pm
No...he's right. Your WPF is perfectly good; any noticeable delay in swing will be due to your connection. what's your ping ingame?
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: slickster on May 31, 2011, 07:24:42 pm
30 usually. 
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: slickster on May 31, 2011, 07:28:36 pm
is there a list of what agi/str and wpf do?
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: CoWorm on May 31, 2011, 07:32:37 pm
is there a list of what agi/str and wpf do?


The wiki? http://wiki.c-rpg.net/index.php?title=Skills

Get there by pressing Help down in the bottom left corner of the char screen.
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: Baggy on May 31, 2011, 07:53:17 pm
ok, it's only a pause before i swing.  Didn't realize ya'll were so simple
u mad bro?
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: Delro on May 31, 2011, 08:11:14 pm
Seems like 15 agi is a little low if you want to have hyperfast swigning, but it would only slightly affect speed and you'd really only notice it against other agi builds. Really to be less predictable I think you just want to work on your feinting, footwork, turning and timing, there are numerous tutorials regarding that in the Beginner's Help and Guides forum.
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: Quallen on May 31, 2011, 08:15:22 pm
What shield are you using? Some are faster than others

What 1h are you using? Some are faster than others. Are you turning into your swings at all?

You have a fantastic ping.  It all comes down to timing (swinging immediately after a block.) More wpf, and faster items will give you a bigger timing window to counter attack in but it still comes down to timing.  If you're having trouble counter attacking you are hesitating to long after blocking. 
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: Baggy on May 31, 2011, 08:17:04 pm
Oh and ping is in millaseconds not seconds.
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: Bulzur on May 31, 2011, 09:09:31 pm
There is a 30sec pause before I actually swing my sword.  What stats do I need to improve so that it's not so predictable?

20 str
15 agi
143 1h wpf

First, it will always be predictable, else... you know.
Second, if you're using a shield, you have more delay than without.
Third, where you noticing this "lag" when duelling, or even when fighting air ?
Fourth, maybe your mouse (computer, overall equipment) is of not-so-good quality and the time the signal "clicking" is sent in game, that many second passed ?
Fifth, maybe it's just a strange feeling, but it's actually as fast as others.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: MrShine on May 31, 2011, 10:11:00 pm
I remember feeling sluggish with my 1h shield in the past, but that was because I sucked a little more than I do now.

If it isn't a connect/hardware issue (which seems possible) you are probably waiting too long to counter-swing.  If you delay even a little bit after your shield is hit someone with a fast weapon is going to be able to spam you. 

Can anyone confirm that the polearm stun effect can apply to shields?  I could swear there have been times I've been hit by a heavy polearm and was unable to counter attack.  That might be causing you problems as well, not sure.
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: Bulzur on May 31, 2011, 10:29:57 pm
Shield is often heavier than the polearm, it shouldn't be an issue at all. Still, a "i tested it" would be appreciated. :P
And yes, for best performance, you must attack even before you hear the "ting" of you blocking the ennemy. Sometimes it can kill you though, since some good players delay their attacks.
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: BobbyFizz on May 31, 2011, 11:44:12 pm
I'm not a veteran by any means so I'm not up to speed on all the different builds.

I have a similar build to you, but I go for agility equal or more than strength. ie 15ag/15st, then 16ag/15st etc etc. I find that has helped me.
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: Mala on June 01, 2011, 05:19:12 am
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Can anyone confirm that the polearm stun effect can apply to shields?  I could swear there have been times I've been hit by a heavy polearm and was unable to counter attack.  That might be causing you problems as well, not sure.

I can not speak for all shields, but with the buckler i have quite often a stun effect. Hell, even a overhead swing of the katane can causes this.
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: Diomedes on June 01, 2011, 02:29:59 pm
If you've:
low ping
that wpf
a quick weapon (97+ speed)
a medium shield
medium armour (less than 14 weight)

And you're still swinging slow then I've no idea what's ailing you.  My best guess would be some degenerative disease where you mistake to extent to which you can actually control your motor functions.  Anything above 120 wpf for a 1-hander gives you quick reaction times for most 1h weapons.  A fast weapon (99+ speed), too, will often swing quickly regardless of wpf.
Title: Re: Simple question on 1h speed
Post by: Kaelaen on June 01, 2011, 03:01:03 pm
I've seen you around Slickster, you play as a swashbuckler I.E. no shield.  There's nothing you can improve that involves your character sheet, you merely need to study up on game mechanics.  From what I can tell, you haven't read up on getting stunned by weapon weight, which is if a weapon is sufficiently heavier than your weapon when you block it you'll be stunned for the first strike thus need to block the second one.  As a one-hander sword user without a shield, most weapons will be heavier than yours.  Be more patient.