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Title: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: vipere on January 01, 2018, 05:56:07 pm
please.

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Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Torben on January 01, 2018, 06:26:39 pm
thatwouldbesonice
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Leesin on January 01, 2018, 06:58:32 pm
I asked for this years ago, the role players all cried at me for it. Night time offers absolutely no camouflage for flanking maneuvers etc, it just makes everything ugly and generally hurts your eyes more lol.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: BlackxBird on January 01, 2018, 07:10:31 pm
there are enough people who disabled weather. Im sure if u ask around there is someone who knows how to make it shine again!
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Pandemona on January 01, 2018, 07:12:00 pm
I think anything that doesn't have the same affect on every player should be removed.

Such as rain, fog, orange fog(?),night etc. These things vary depending on the time you join the server, it's especially critical in long Strategus battles. For example the last Strategus battle i joined which was a year ago (bad joke sorry) i had orange fog for about first 45 minutes of the battle, when i relogged to server the fog was gone and the sun was shining once more which gave me unfair advantage, which i paid in return by playing even more terrible.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 01, 2018, 07:48:58 pm
I've called for this for a long time, its still one of the most common factors that make me quit. Some maps are very VERY painful to play in nighttime, pump up gamma on monitor and in game brightnesss to max yet its little help. Blending in dark grey weapons into dark night time in a game where you have to follow movements very closely makes it very painful to play.

When the best solution to counter night time is to quit (or remove it manually in the files), then maybe its worth considering just taking it away.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Rhekimos on January 01, 2018, 08:54:28 pm
+1

The night time could use a fix, if not complete removal. At least make it less dark. I believe that was done in pre-WSE2 beta version but it didn't carry over.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Osiris on January 01, 2018, 09:28:24 pm
it makes it even worse when its night for 3-4 maps in a row  :cry:
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Suedehead on January 01, 2018, 09:51:44 pm
i like night and/or foggy maps, make games more diverse, only problem is that sometimes they are too many in a row, that's not good
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Nehvar on January 01, 2018, 10:02:06 pm
+1

When it's night I just can't see a lot of what's going on in melee...and that's not fun.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: bensai on January 01, 2018, 11:46:01 pm
yes remove night its bad for melee i have bad color contrasting eyes i cant tell the difference between a stone floor and a dark grey sword blade
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: //saxon on January 02, 2018, 01:07:12 pm
u can edit the files so night time is as clear day. it still has the night sky texture but it's just clear and bright.

change the last numbers on the lines that have "night" in skyboxes text file by using the numbers from the clear day lines.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Torben on January 02, 2018, 02:05:52 pm
ban
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Butan on January 02, 2018, 02:20:33 pm
u can edit the files so night time is as clear day. it still has the night sky texture but it's just clear and bright.

change the last numbers on the lines that have "night" in skyboxes text file by using the numbers from the clear day lines.

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Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: pogosan on January 02, 2018, 03:10:57 pm
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Larvae on January 02, 2018, 03:13:11 pm
maybe its because i got a laptop but when its nighttime on the server i cant see shit and my eyes start to hurt after a few minutes.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Gurnisson on January 02, 2018, 06:31:27 pm
Yes screen is pitch-black, literally unplayable.

For real though can anyone post a screenshot of the bad night time that makes it hard to see stuff? It's never that dark on my screen.

Sometimes it's a little murkier, is that what people are talking about?

A little bit of murk?

Literally unplayable?

Do you have HDR activated? Makes night more tolerable, but reduces performance for many computers.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Jona on January 02, 2018, 06:50:34 pm
Yeah, I don't get it either. Maybe I had some fucky graphics settings by default, but night time pretty much just changes the sky colour for me. Could be that some of you have bad monitors?

My shitty old laptop would only change the skybox color at night. It made the ground look like it was glowing due to the sharp contrast of light brown dirt and dark blue sky. On my gaming pc with an average monitor both the skybox and ground darken, and the annoying part is the dirt-colored ground becomes a similar dark brown color as many armors and wooden weapons, while the stone-colored ground becomes a very similar color as chainmail and metal weapons, making it especially hard to see swing directions as well as the finer details in other peoples' movement (which way their body is oriented, where there arms are in relation to their body, i.e. what swing/block they are using).

Basically, nighttime seems to make it a crapshoot whether or not you get lucky enough to line your enemy up with a contrasting background color, otherwise their swings and movement will be far harder to follow than in daytime.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 02, 2018, 07:09:02 pm
I always used to figure over the years it was my shitty laptop somehow doing me a solid. Then my next one also happened to not look even half as hideous at 'night time' than others seemed to suggest anecdotally.

But then I got a gaming PC a couple of weeks ago, and somehow it still looks fine.

Are people eating their carrots?

Well it certainly doesnt add anything, and like me many do feel it hurts a lot of the gameplay. Maybe its pc sided, or maybe its our eyes either way it makes it relatively miserable.

edit: It does add some tiny bit of night time feel, but its a poor middleground of sneaky night time and just plain daytime. Instead theres no real gameplay change added, but only the eye strain due to colors being much more blended out and similar.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Torben on January 02, 2018, 07:13:44 pm
depends on what setting. 
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Rhekimos on January 02, 2018, 11:07:16 pm
So if night time is fine for some people on some settings, why not make it good for all players on all settings? This doesn't seem like it would inconvenience anyone.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Dalhi on January 03, 2018, 08:48:38 am
Go to "Mount&Blade Warband\Modules\cRPG\Data" find a file skyboxes.txt make a backup copy of this file, then replace the  text with this one:

Code: [Select]
14
 skybox_clearday 0 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.060235 0.088471 0.167529  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 536870912 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.053961 0.079255 0.150078  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 0 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.060235 0.088471 0.167529  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 536870912 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.053961 0.079255 0.150078  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 0 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.060235 0.088471 0.167529  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 536870912 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.053961 0.079255 0.150078  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 0 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.060235 0.088471 0.167529  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 536870912 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.053961 0.079255 0.150078  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 0 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.060235 0.088471 0.167529  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 536870912 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.053961 0.079255 0.150078  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 0 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.060235 0.088471 0.167529  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 536870912 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.053961 0.079255 0.150078  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 0 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.060235 0.088471 0.167529  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 536870912 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.053961 0.079255 0.150078  300.000000 4287406765



Save your vision, enjoy the sunny weather. Not an advantage in combat but it allows you to decrease your monitor brightness and that is the key.

Ages ago I had a short conversation about it with Meow and he was completly fine with it. I have no idea if current devs won't mind it, but I honestly don't care. Cheers.

PS I am not sure if it still works, but you get idea, find a line of code for sunny skybox and replace all others with the one that is linked with desired effect.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Larvae on January 03, 2018, 11:30:52 am
Do you have HDR activated? Makes night more tolerable, but reduces performance for many computers.

(click to show/hide)

thy for that tip,will try it as i have it off
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 03, 2018, 04:38:38 pm
Go to "Mount&Blade Warband\Modules\cRPG\Data" find a file skyboxes.txt make a backup copy of this file, then replace the  text with this one:

Code: [Select]
14
 skybox_clearday 0 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.060235 0.088471 0.167529  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 536870912 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.053961 0.079255 0.150078  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 0 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.060235 0.088471 0.167529  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 536870912 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.053961 0.079255 0.150078  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 0 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.060235 0.088471 0.167529  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 536870912 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.053961 0.079255 0.150078  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 0 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.060235 0.088471 0.167529  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 536870912 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.053961 0.079255 0.150078  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 0 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.060235 0.088471 0.167529  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 536870912 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.053961 0.079255 0.150078  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 0 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.060235 0.088471 0.167529  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 536870912 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.053961 0.079255 0.150078  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 0 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.060235 0.088471 0.167529  300.000000 4287406765
 skybox_clearday 536870912 179.000000 80.000000 0.950000 pfx_sunny
 1.306800 1.197900 1.069200  0.000000 0.000000 0.000000  0.053961 0.079255 0.150078  300.000000 4287406765



Save your vision, enjoy the sunny weather. Not an advantage in combat but it allows you to decrease your monitor brightness and that is the key.

Ages ago I had a short conversation about it with Meow and he was completly fine with it. I have no idea if current devs won't mind it, but I honestly don't care. Cheers.

PS I am not sure if it still works, but you get idea, find a line of code for sunny skybox and replace all others with the one that is linked with desired effect.

INB4 banned like green arrows
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Renay on January 03, 2018, 04:45:32 pm
Also want it gone, not because it bothers me, but because I know a lot of people disabled it. Either invent something to prevent it being disabled or remove completely.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Dalhi on January 03, 2018, 04:48:28 pm
INB4 banned like green arrows

Banned? Do you mean like officially forbidden or is it the related to WSE2, it's possible that WSE checks the file sum and overwrites everything that was potientially modified by user. Well, I guess I'll have to check it myself.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 03, 2018, 04:51:31 pm
Banned? Do you mean like officially forbidden or is it the related to WSE2, it's possible that WSE checks the file sum and overwrites everything that was potientially modified by user. Well, I guess I'll have to check it myself.

Pandor got banned by admins for posting about his green arrows. A lot of people have removed nighttime but i dont think others like hearing about it, it could border on the same ban rule. Last time this discussion about editing files for convenience came up i ended up just removing my edit, and not that i was playing a lot then but ive played much less since.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Dalhi on January 03, 2018, 05:51:20 pm
I see, of course it would be easier for everyone if the devs would simply disable day/night cycle as I don't think it adds anything to the game at this point.
By the way someone checked if it works? I played few rounds but didn't bother myself with editing files.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Porthos on January 03, 2018, 09:23:24 pm
come on, i doubt the current admin team gives a fuck at this point to bother with banning people for such minor stuff like that. and pandor got unbanned in the end w/o any file-checker being introduced, so noone can surely tell that he's not using dem green hacks anymore. don't worry about it. i even think that they'll go and disable the night/fog in the end because the last thing they want to do right now is to confront the playerbase. and the ammount of upvotes/downvotes to the op post can be considered as the will of the absolute majority of that playerbase right now.

for me night time maps are the favourite ones because i always play with the "show outlines on the enemies banner" feature on and it gives me advatage of ninja-killing all them blind fucks around. i do hate much the foggy or bright snowy maps instead. delete them plox or i cri :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: njames89 on January 03, 2018, 09:32:01 pm
Removing night time is silly. I honestly don't understand why people complain so much about it. Perhaps you guys are using bad graphical settings? I don't find night time hard to see in and I enjoy having different settings to play in. Day/Night/Weather.

I definitely agree that the amount of time that night comes up is too high and could be greatly reduced.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Leesin on January 03, 2018, 11:02:25 pm
Removing night time is silly. I honestly don't understand why people complain so much about it. Perhaps you guys are using bad graphical settings? I don't find night time hard to see in and I enjoy having different settings to play in. Day/Night/Weather.

I definitely agree that the amount of time that night comes up is too high and could be greatly reduced.

 If its light in the room then it actually does hinder my vision in when it's night in CRPG. Strains my eyes. Not sure what it actually adds to the game beyond that, on top of the fact some people have it removed, so why not give us a check box to allow it to be disabled if it doesn't bother some people, or just remove it completely. If people are going to circumvent it by cheesing the files, might as well just add that option.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Asheram on January 03, 2018, 11:16:34 pm
I don't get this at all, I can see fine when it's night. Mess with brightness, gamma and contrast. You would think it's like Mortal Onlines night so dark you can barely see hand in front of face the way some are talking.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Jona on January 04, 2018, 12:01:29 am
I don't get this at all, I can see fine when it's night. Mess with brightness, gamma and contrast. You would think it's like Mortal Onlines night so dark you can barely see hand in front of face the way some are talking.

Problem is that everyone's graphics card/monitor is different. What settings work for you may not work for someone else. Needless to say, some may not want to compromise their daytime viewing experience just so they don't melt their eyes when it is a nighttime map, and it certainly isn't reasonable to ask people to readjust all their settings each map change, should the time of day be different. Personally, I'd like to see nighttime frequency turned way down, or some sort of toggle-able setting in the graphics options to make it less painful for those that do suffer from the issue. Maybe if their was an easy enough way to add a "nighttime darkness" slider it might be worth looking into, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 04, 2018, 12:21:33 am
So nighttime is fine, if you have settings set so that its bright enough to be playable? Or with settings enabled or disabled that you may want to have on other maps? Never have i had a game force me to adapt my graphics settings map after map. But i guess ill just go back to being a cheater with edited .txt then, if people seem unbothered with it at this point.
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Asheram on January 04, 2018, 01:03:38 am
I haven't changed my monitor settings only the in game options and I dont have to change every map. Maybe it is as Jona said graphics card but I just have a lowly gtx660. I am unbothered because I dont see what you are seeing I guess.
My game is never darker than it is in this videowhich is at night and raining..
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Asheram on January 04, 2018, 02:13:21 am
Just add fire arrows as I think ranged would be qq about this most  :D
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 04, 2018, 06:12:14 am
And i've never had to adjust my settings to make the game so dark it's unbearable.

The default settings on 2 non-gaming laptops, my mate's pc and my new gaming pc have all been perfectly fine. Do you know what settings or game files I need to change to experience this mysterious unplayable nighttime?

Why did you guys change your settings to make it so bad if you don't like it?

Huh, youre right. I fixed it in the hidden settings now, its bright and i can see again. I can even lower my brightness in game and on my monitor now, and not burn my eyes out before 30!
Title: Re: Can you remove night from the servers ?
Post by: vipere on January 04, 2018, 06:22:27 pm
thanks dahli for the code

here is a screenshot of night time on my computer :

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