Really there is no reason to move, or wear equipment.
And really, crpg hasn't been this fun in quite a while.
its more then the equipment decay, and the tactics.. the game just feels different, the animations are different, the scoring is kind of confusing(gold/exp per minute, but doesnt show where or how much you have gotten so far.
Really there is no reason to move, or wear equipment.
So far personally I'm not enjoying my character feels nothing like my old character did, the same things im noticing are the cookie cutter way to win, i still see people going 27-3. the only thing that seems ot have changed is the fun was taken out.
There are just as many reasons to wear equipment as there were prepatch - to kill, and to win. There were before also leechers with 3 shields, except they had to run and follow the melee and now they don't. Big difference? Not really. In fact, there's a lot more reasons to try to win, and I'm more anxious about winning, because I can make more gold if I'm on the winning team, and gold actually has a use now. Before, once you got all the stuff you want, you didn't care about it at all.
And really, crpg hasn't been this fun in quite a while.
i disagree, before the fighting mattered, being melee mattered. you went into every fight and it really made a difference if you won you got gold/exp if you lost you got next to nothing. Now im naked and i stand around and do nothing, and i GET more then i ever got before if i won or loss. The difference is now i dont really enjoy moving, the fighting doesnt matter anymore, i dont spawn till after everyone runs away from spawn, i spawn naked, by the time i pick up a shield i have gained 100 gold and 5000 exp. zero effort required. getting kills no longer matters, winning no longer matters.
This is an awesome patch for those leechers.
In short, if playing feels pointless to you when rewards are completely removed, you failed.
No, it's an awesome patch for PLAYERS.
You know, people who enjoy PLAYING the game for what it is.
Unlike you, who is only WORKING here on achieving better stats.
No, it's an awesome patch for PLAYERS.
You know, people who enjoy PLAYING the game for what it is.
Unlike you, who is only WORKING here on achieving better stats. For you, this game is all about excel sheet numbers. I would pity you, if I had compassion for people like you, which I don't. Any number increasing game is good for you, I don't even know why you bother playing Warband - there are many better number-increasing excel sheet games out there. Lineage, etc.
In short, if playing feels pointless to you when rewards are completely removed, you failed.
No, it's an awesome patch for PLAYERS.
You know, people who enjoy PLAYING the game for what it is.
Unlike you, who is only WORKING here on achieving better stats. For you, this game is all about excel sheet numbers. I would pity you, if I had compassion for people like you, which I don't. Any number increasing game is good for you, I don't even know why you bother playing Warband - there are many better number-increasing excel sheet games out there. Lineage, etc.
In short, if playing feels pointless to you when rewards are completely removed, you failed.
There are just as many reasons to wear equipment as there were prepatch - to kill, and to win.
If you enjoy just leeching, then I recommend you play this, seems like your kind of thing.
http://progressquest.com/play/
WSAD - move around
now its just sort of boring. Please tell me how i should play, should i play like its native? because if so why are we not just playing native?
The only way for me to make money is to run around in a wedding dress and throw rocks at people. Fun stuff, fun stuff indeed.
Tbh I miss leechers and poor peasants running aways from me in an effort to stay alive just a little longer for that extra gold/xp... ah sweet times.
If I don't like the map I spend 10-15 minutes doing other things until its done and I get xp/gold regardless.
I don't think this patch is bad but, I kind of like it but I really don't care so much if we win or lose like I did before. If I don't like the map I spend 10-15 minutes doing other things until its done and I get xp/gold regardless ...
I'm curious, what other thing do you do ?
i still see people going 27-3.
its more then the equipment decay, and the tactics.. the game just feels different, the animations are different, the scoring is kind of confusing(gold/exp per minute, but doesnt show where or how much you have gotten so far.
Really there is no reason to move, or wear equipment.
So far personally I'm not enjoying my character feels nothing like my old character did, the same things im noticing are the cookie cutter way to win, i still see people going 27-3. the only thing that seems ot have changed is the fun was taken out.
No, it's an awesome patch for PLAYERS.
You know, people who enjoy PLAYING the game for what it is.
Unlike you, who is only WORKING here on achieving better stats. For you, this game is all about excel sheet numbers. I would pity you, if I had compassion for people like you, which I don't. Any number increasing game is good for you, I don't even know why you bother playing Warband - there are many better number-increasing excel sheet games out there. Lineage, etc.
In short, if playing feels pointless to you when rewards are completely removed, you failed.
Agreed.
I love the upkeep, the changes to animations (I think the archery animation looks badass but I know many people hate it) and the behavior I'm seeing on the battlefield. Seeing alot more teamwork, and flanking (other than 1 ninja in black pajamas). More support role characters emerging (xbowmen with pikes and axes, hoplites are making a big return, etc). Lovin' it so far.
No, it's an awesome patch for PLAYERS.
You know, people who enjoy PLAYING the game for what it is.
Unlike you, who is only WORKING here on achieving better stats. For you, this game is all about excel sheet numbers. I would pity you, if I had compassion for people like you, which I don't. Any number increasing game is good for you, I don't even know why you bother playing Warband - there are many better number-increasing excel sheet games out there. Lineage, etc.
In short, if playing feels pointless to you when rewards are completely removed, you failed.
Eh, they don't. Yes, if we win they'll befenit just as much as every player who tried.
But, since every leecher just decreases his team's chances to win, they'll be on the loosing team far more often, then any player who gives his best. And yes, there will be unlucky "workers" and lucky "leechers", this is unfortunate, but coding a system that rewards every worker fairly is impossible because there just so many ways to do something useful.
And yes, again, they are not paying upkeep - but well, then the others run around in their gear and can cut down these leeches for a few extra kills ... fair's fair.
I agree that the game is not so much fun like this. We all played and spent much hours urning our good gear and weapons, now it is useless because of the cost. I am still reading the forum in hope there will be a old systhem wich will be clear about our urnings, without the repair cost and with e new reward systhem for kills and maybe wounding. So people will fight so they will reveive extra gold.
For now i am playing Native again and reading Rpg forum.
i disagree, before the fighting mattered, being melee mattered. you went into every fight and it really made a difference if you won you got gold/exp if you lost you got next to nothing. Now im naked and i stand around and do nothing, and i GET more then i ever got before if i won or loss. The difference is now i dont really enjoy moving, the fighting doesnt matter anymore, i dont spawn till after everyone runs away from spawn, i spawn naked, by the time i pick up a shield i have gained 100 gold and 5000 exp. zero effort required. getting kills no longer matters, winning no longer matters.
This is an awesome patch for those leechers.
its a terrible patch for those who were enjoying the melee before.
like i just spawned late while making this post, my team had won twice in a row, and i just got something like 450 gold, thousands of exp and i did nothing, i contributed nothing, i killed no one, and we LOST. and i had zero fun
in regards to xbows making more of an appearance. really dude? you didnt notice all the sniper xbows before?
Well if the people that loved to wear black armor and spam their way through a room of peasants move on, no great loss imo.
Its a complete Different game
R.i.P Knights
R.I.P Heavy Infantery
R.I.P Tier 4+5 Cavalery
Old Players get nerfed.
They played long time, Monthts to get there Heirloomed Items and there Xp. Know Massive Changing off Weapons Equip etc.
I love Black Armor Tanks, that was not my dream i was Medium-Heavy Agi fighter. But i feared them.
I miss the Spammberge, it was a Teamwork with Archers Pikeman to kill them.
I miss Steel Shielders. Most difficult fighting Style vs 1 Hand.
I miss Elefant Horse. Trampel and fighting deluxe
I miss the fucking 1 Shooting X-bow
and so much more
And pls stop with the crap story that this is all here and old player can use it. Look at this poor Army know, i see a massive Peasant Army farming gold, sometimes Medium Fighters. Sometimes in a winning team some knights. Stop to tell, that a Tincan is unfair. They worked hard for there money and skill. It was a dream Factor to get a Plate, Heavy Armour, Good 10 K weapons or a cool looking horse. And know? Pffff.
Its a different game now. Thats fact.
I miss the old one.
And we have a extremly Grinding status know, retirement xp gen and item only at 31. I thought most important think is stop grinding?
Gorath you are a fanboy, but if you was frustrated that you have no skill to kill a tincan spamberge than stop flame old good Black armour wearer.
Since this patch, the archers make Peasants Massaker. A Tincan 2 Hander was a fighter that go in front in a fight. And hold the line.
I never will be wearing a black armolur, i am a medium agi fighter. But i repect my old Tank enemys.
What was you for a class? So we can flame your style
Btw. most people do NOT miss spamberges, steel shields, armoured horses, etc., as for most people (except of the particular users) they were factors which KILLED the fun.
What was you for a class? So we can flame your style
Time will show how many people REALLY like this new patch, but I think one thing can be said for sure: items like plated chargers, the incredibly ugly black armour, Flamberges, Looney Toons Axes, Boulders on Stick etc. were definitely NOT part of the fun for most people! This can be said for sure. If you think otherwise your perception is fooling you.
Hrhr,
Thrower-X-bow-archer
Welcome Peasant Slaughterer.
Yeah i understand you, good patch for all range classes.
Thx for the true:-)
Before it was more, this was OP, something else was OP, but it made the game entertaining somehow. Now it feels like we are all wearing the same uniform and packing fudge. Boring.
but I think you all agree with me when I say its like we've all been slapped with a walmart uniform and are now stacking shelves all day
Its ok, we will see it.
Black armor and tank horses are weak as a peasant stuff.
Gorath, dont be so agro.
Black armour and Tank horses was killabel, but not from you:-)
Gorath, dont be so agro.
Black armour and Tank horses was killabel,
We know all that you hate Plated Gear, but be cool.
Dumbest comment made on the forums today. /clap
No btw, they're not. If you really think it's as weak as peasant stuff you're the worst player in M&B ever. :rolleyes:
I love how games like World of Warcraft have completely brainwashed some people. No one has yet explained to me the point of leeching... What is the point of doing what you say and spawning naked? To make money you say? Why? To buy more stuff? Why? So you can spawn naked and make money? LOL have fun with that. I will spend my money to pwn noobs all day.
I myself strip myself of all armor except some boots/gloves and keep my heirloomed weps equipped because I might want some XP but don't really have the time to play a full map so I bum rush, get a kill or two and die. No worries. Had my fun, got some XP/gold and now time to smoke a bowl and have a beer.
Dont drink so much pls, because i think its not allowed in your age, have your fun but pls be quite when 2 grown up are talking
I hate when kiddys only argument with stop whining. Bonk
"WAAAH WE NEED PLATE TO PLAY! UNFAIR! NOW EVERYONE HAS THE ABILITY TO KILL ME REGARDLESS OF LEVEL OR PS STAT! GIMME MY PLAAAAAAAAAAATE".
FFS you two.
Dont drink so much pls, because i think its not allowed in your age, have your fun but pls be quite when 2 grown up are talking
I hate when kiddys only argument with stop whining. Bonk
And joker, stop being stupid as you're avatar is, if you got problem to kill a plated charge, buy a pike and come on the batllefield. I'll teach you dude.
Plate look cool, why can't you understand this dudes?
It's not overpowered and it's cool, so let players play it! If they wan to be op, they will not wearing plate. Plate got big malus. Why make it unplayable????
when your reply has the grammar and punctuation of a nerd raging 12 year old?!
soon as someone wants to explain how allowing someone like goretooth the ability to rock full black plate with his polearm which swings faster then one handed weapons to slaughter people who cant afford the armor needed to not get one shotted?
*Of course, they are retarded so.... meh*
RUN GORATH
there is a plate, look, a bad devil plate, RUN RUN RUN
hrhrhr
Here is a lolly:-)
Nomad Robe is crap.
1 Hit and you are death.
Dont know exactly the Kalkulation, but all normal 1 Hander with 100 Wpf and PS 4 will 1 Hit a 28 Ac player with 1 or 2 Ironflesh.
A game without any room for improvement or change grows boring after awhile.
Nomad Robe is crap.
1 Hit and you are death.
Dont know exactly the Kalkulation, but all normal 1 Hander with 100 Wpf and PS 4 will 1 Hit a 28 Ac player with 1 or 2 Ironflesh.
You didn't get my point. You said plate was not OP, and that lighter armour was better. Now you say light armour is crap.
Ich wollte eigentlich sagen: der Nachteil der gesenkten Geschwindigkeit wiegt NICHT den Vorteil des gesteigerten Rüstungsschutzes auf. In anderen Worten: je besser die Rüstung wird, desto geringer wird der zusätzliche Geschwindigkeitsabzug, aber der Rüstungszuwachs bleibt gleich. Somit ist im Großen und Ganzen die schwerste Rüstung auch die beste.
So, I tried it on German now :mrgreen:
LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA YOU SUCK LA LA LA then fuck
and what the fuck is this banner balance bullshit? all ats on one team? all everyone of one banner on one team
thats doing the opposite of balance
well its good to know we can change our banners, looks like im rocking the one ats uses
Try to write in an complete other language, pls write in german pls, but i think you dont learn or write in any other language.
I can write so that other peopel can understand me, so if you have no respect for the knowledge of other, pls be quite.
And dont whine pls.
Thx:-)
And you get all the Hospitallers on the other team, or all the Takedas, all the templars. It still balances out, only it allows clans to play with most of their members on the same team so we can work together.
bwahaha, there aren't any takedas left
bwahaha, there aren't any takedas left
im sick of seeing all ats on one side raping face and then using the excuse "but you have 7 more people"Well why don't your 7 more people have kills? Sounds more like a l2p issue on your team. Yell at them, whip em into shape!
yeah 7 more people all with zero kills thats balance
Banner balance was the best thing this patch did. If you don't have a clan, join one already you anti-social schmuck.
Balance seems much better now then it did before when when winning a match with 5-0 happened quite often.
Also, plates and plated mounts are too powerful to be used all the time. Before the patch it took one plated charger in the team to ensure victory 90% of the times. I know high upkeep cost sucks for those that want to play as heavy armored inf/cav but if you were allowed to play that way all the time then others would be forced to do the same in order to stay competitve against you. We would be back to pre-patch times when 10% of the equipment was used while other 90% was obsolete.
Instead of just complaining I would really like to see you guys offer logical alternatives to the current sistem. Every single alternative I came up with would only bring further imbalance to the game.
Well why don't your 7 more people have kills? Sounds more like a l2p issue on your team. Yell at them, whip em into shape!
The most disturbing part of your screenshot is that Ecko is on the top of the leaderboard, I mean wtf is with that? Someone else playing his character?
Do you know guy, that a plated charger can be stop easy with a fork? :wink:
Do you know guy that plate make player slow, deacrease his dmg and his wpf, and by that his speed on fight?
If players can't play as a team and being aware, yes a plated charger can do lot of dommage, but if player are enough smart to buy a pike or a fork , there's no problem.
In what plate is powerfull?
It gives better protection but deacrease everything else. So I think make it unplayable is stupid.