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Title: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Panos_Tournament on December 20, 2017, 10:54:08 am
As the title says, I would like to suggest that the 7 day cooldown time fora penalty free respec gets outted, or at least decrease the cooldown time to 2 days.

Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Panos_Tournament on December 20, 2017, 10:55:45 am
Fuck, wanted to add give them run option, but this is some serious shit...
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Richyy on December 20, 2017, 12:49:15 pm
And maybe let main chars the free respec option too? :)
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Torben on December 20, 2017, 12:51:15 pm
And maybe let main chars the free respec option too? :)

this would be even more important.  atm its just an inconveniance to change heroes all the time
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: njames89 on December 20, 2017, 12:58:31 pm
A decrease makes sense. Completely removing it definitely does not.
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Post by: Algarn on December 20, 2017, 01:11:00 pm
TBH, the 1 week delay is fine to me, but the hero character restriction is pure bullshit.
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Post by: Casul on December 20, 2017, 01:17:39 pm
And maybe let main chars the free respec option too? :)

no, that would let people switch to builds specifically for the gear you have in your next battle. A horde load of ranged weapons would then lead to a massive archer spam.

I think its fine that you cannot switch your mains build as easily, thats why I am using an actual alt char for strategus
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Algarn on December 20, 2017, 01:24:48 pm
no, that would let people switch to builds specifically for the gear you have in your next battle. A horde load of ranged weapons would then lead to a massive archer spam.

I think its fine that you cannot switch your mains build as easily, thats why I am using an actual alt char for strategus

If there's a week of cooldown, trust me that they'll reflect twice about fucking up their battles for an entire week because they have to use garbage bows against plates. Archers and crossbowmen simply cannot hold the line.
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: njames89 on December 20, 2017, 01:30:32 pm
can't you already change your strat hero in that time?
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Post by: Torben on December 20, 2017, 03:40:06 pm
TBH, the 1 week delay is fine to me, but the hero character restriction is pure bullshit.
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Algarn on December 20, 2017, 03:47:15 pm
can't you already change your strat hero in that time?

Yeah, but it's 3 days. If you want to respec your main, you got to transfer the "heroship" to an alt, then wait 3 more days so your main becomes your hero again. 6 days to respec your main isn't really a good system if you ask me, considering you got to fight with your alt for 3 days and with the build you want to change for 3 days aswell.
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Fungus on December 20, 2017, 03:51:24 pm
I personally wouldn't mind a shorter period between free respecs as 7 days can be a pain in the ass if you mess up your build, but I think a better solution would be to reduce the percentage of xp lost from respecing to 10 or even 5%.
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Post by: Heibai on December 20, 2017, 04:00:33 pm
I'd prefer an own separate cooldown timer for every alt character, if it stays 7 days.

Though I agree with Algarn, the biggest annoyance is that you can't use the free respec on your main character. If someone spends their weekly respec once to change their build mid strat battle, who cares...
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: the real god emperor on December 20, 2017, 04:07:29 pm
TBH, the 1 week delay is fine to me, but the hero character restriction is pure bullshit.

It really is not, I would prefer not seeing 50 crossbows in siege or 50 cavs in battle.
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Casul on December 20, 2017, 04:13:48 pm
Keep the 7 days, introduce 100k gold premature lossless respec button.
Strat heros get a free respec every 14 days? wouldnt mind no change for strat heros tho... its alright how it is, as Kratos basically summed it up

yay nay?
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Post by: Renay on December 20, 2017, 04:15:32 pm
3 Days cooldown in my opinion.
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Heibai on December 20, 2017, 04:20:49 pm
It really is not, I would prefer not seeing 50 crossbows in siege or 50 cavs in battle.

How about a respec with a 3 days delay instead of the current hero switch method then? So you've to wait 3 whole days in order to get your respec, but without changing your hero.

The only difference here is, that you don't have to use your shitty alts for strat battles while waiting to switch back.
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: the real god emperor on December 20, 2017, 04:22:51 pm
Keep the 7 days, introduce 100k gold premature lossless respec button.
Strat heros get a free respec every 14 days? wouldnt mind no change for strat heros tho... its alright how it is, as Kratos basically summed it up

yay nay?

This. We need new moneysinks, and respecs are a good opportunity. Remove or reduce 7 days imo, but add a reasonable fee for it.  Strat heroes gets one in 2 weeks sounds good too tbh.
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Post by: njames89 on December 20, 2017, 04:33:11 pm
100k gold respec I like the idea. Not sure how difficult something like this would be for prof.
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Post by: Butan on December 20, 2017, 04:59:07 pm
For the cRPG revival to be a mid-long term thing, there is many "decrease or totally remove" annoyance to be done.
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: the real god emperor on December 20, 2017, 07:57:52 pm
100k gold respec I like the idea. Not sure how difficult something like this would be for prof.

Not plain 100k but increasing, imo. That's how it is in NordInvasion, the higher level you are, the higher the respec cost is. It works perfectly fine. Plain 100k would mean a 34 level guy with 10million money can respec everyday without any problems. We should try to avoid this.
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Thryn on December 20, 2017, 08:07:50 pm
imo keep the weekly respecs, there are stfs for a reason (though they should be 31 not 30)

allowing people to change strat hero on a weekly timer is okay too imo, i doubt that the server will instantly go all xbow and all cav  :lol:
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Asheram on December 20, 2017, 08:52:05 pm
I wish you didn't have to leave game when switching to an alt, that way when enemy team has all the cav you can quickly switch to cav alt to try and counter them. But then again that probably wouldn't help because would get auto balanced to the cav team next round anyways, like how you leave to get on cav alt and log back on only to be on the cav team you left to switch because of.
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Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on December 21, 2017, 12:17:06 am
being able to respec whenever for strat would be too stupid. Basically what Kratos said. I'm fine with non strat heroes having free respecs or whatever or have to pay for gold for it. Strat heroes would be too stupid and annoying.
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Post by: Rando on December 21, 2017, 06:10:32 am
upvoted
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Post by: Casul on December 21, 2017, 06:05:27 pm
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Thryn has a point. Decreasing the time of free respec would lead to an higher average level ingame, making it overall even more new player unfriendly.
Veterans would not switch to a STF for some stupid builds anymore but just spend 100k on a main char respec with probably 3-4 level difference. thats ridiculous.
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: BlackxBird on December 21, 2017, 06:09:39 pm
what is so bad about weekly respecs? Choose ur build wisely and if u dont wait 7 days and play stf. Having one weekly is already pretty much imo.
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Blackbow on December 21, 2017, 06:54:36 pm
i did the same resquest in the suggestion part of the forum ...
that whould be nice to decrease it and to dont block it to only one character per week but to all our alts
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Asheram on December 22, 2017, 12:53:03 am
Instead of decreasing the cooldown on the weekly respec can we just get a weekly free respec for each character rather than having to share 1 weekly free respec with all your characters?
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Corsair831 on December 22, 2017, 02:14:18 am
no, that would let people switch to builds specifically for the gear you have in your next battle. A horde load of ranged weapons would then lead to a massive archer spam.

I think its fine that you cannot switch your mains build as easily, thats why I am using an actual alt char for strategus

Personally i think it'd be really good being able to respec before a strat battle based on the equipment available for the battle. Would promote more team synergy based on equipment (e.g. if you have a clan of ~~15 people playing, you could all respec pike, shielder etc. to counter what you think the enemy might have)
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Butan on December 22, 2017, 02:19:05 am
Personally i think it'd be really good being able to respec before a strat battle based on the equipment available for the battle. Would promote more team synergy based on equipment (e.g. if you have a clan of ~~15 people playing, you could all respec pike, shielder etc. to counter what you think the enemy might have)


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I've never understood how it is not a good thing if people could respec their strategus character to whatever they want whenever they want. It would create an environment where "class strategy" can be used on the go on a clan scale, and on an individual basis you could play out anything you want after considering what kind of battle you are going to participate in, and briefing/TeamSpeak instructions could encourage some kind of synergy around a prepared theme.
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Panos_Tournament on December 22, 2017, 12:43:26 pm
what is so bad about weekly respecs? Choose ur build wisely and if u dont wait 7 days and play stf. Having one weekly is already pretty much imo.

shitlord, you play the same 2h kuyak build for the last 4 years.
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Panos_ on December 25, 2017, 10:06:13 am
up.
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Post by: Rebelyell on December 25, 2017, 10:43:19 am
A decrease makes sense. Completely removing it definitely does not.
strat is dead

I stand with panos my 3rd best turkish friend!!

give them run
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: ARN_ on December 25, 2017, 12:23:59 pm
It really is not, I would prefer not seeing 50 crossbows in siege or 50 cavs in battle.
It only takes 3 days to change strat hero, so I don't see why they can't be able to respec every 7 days. If you have more than 2 characters you are only 3 days away from another class anyway.
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Gravoth_iii on December 25, 2017, 05:55:03 pm
I dunno. Its convenient with easy access respeccs, but feels like the game loses charm from it. Recognizing someone from his build and style means nothing now cause the next day he could be completely different.

It matters little to me, but ive come to know Quality of Life can often result in less immersion.
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Panos_ on January 12, 2018, 08:29:52 pm
Up.
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Post by: jergu on January 13, 2018, 10:07:25 am
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Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Casul on January 13, 2018, 10:16:43 am
you mean that stupid mod where crossbows and archers reload and shoot like assault rifles and 2h stabs do 1 bazillion damage?

nah thx but thanks for the offer
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Grumbs on January 14, 2018, 08:33:07 am
I think the respec system should coincide with the retirement system. It used to be that if you wanted a new build then you would retire your character which also had added benefits for the server. You would have more people caring about their XP and trying to level up which added more population to the servers and at the end of that process you got a sought after item that could help boost the economy a bit

I like the convenience of the free respec since i'm never going to retire again, but it does kind of undermine the whole retirement process for those who do. I'd move away from frequent free respecs and make it something you can purchase instead. I'm thinking of one free respec a month, then it costs in the region of the value of a loompoint if you want to respec again that month then it costs 2.5x a loompoint, then 5 etc. It would also help take some of the gold out of the economy that people are hoarding
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Captain_Georges on January 15, 2018, 06:32:20 pm
Didnt get to vote on time. Remove it, or at least reduce it. Any change in that direction is good.
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Panos_Tournament on January 24, 2018, 12:30:53 pm
THE MAJORITY HAS SPOKEN!
Title: Re: Decrease or totally remove the respec cooldown time.
Post by: Asheram on January 26, 2018, 12:09:27 am
Strat hero should be able to use the 1 free 7 day cooldown shared by all chars respec. How does allowing strat hero to use a free 7 day respec hurt strat? I want to switch out the 3 points I have in shield to something else and just carry that 0 skill cav shield but I have to wait 3 days to transfer to an alt and then wait 3 more days just to get it back. :cry: