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Title: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Bronto on October 10, 2017, 03:12:15 pm
So I get on this site today to see what's what and all that I disappointingly find is some topic about a fat cosplay chick and a 19 minutes video. What the fuck people? This is what you consider entertainment. Some dude talking about how a girl is a fat cosplay chick and pointing out her poor photoshop skills!?

Now that that's out of the way. The new Star Wars trailer is out and I think I passed out, came to, and then passed out again. So many thoughts and feels I don't even know where to begin. Here it is!

Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: IR_Kuoin on October 10, 2017, 03:34:31 pm
Meh...
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on October 10, 2017, 03:35:28 pm
Looks like Empire, but they cranked everything up to max. Its trying so hard to be "Wow! this is star wars!" as far as the trailer goes, its obnoxious.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: njames89 on October 10, 2017, 03:40:53 pm
Large scale battles with AT - AT's now that is my jam
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Post by: Leshma on October 10, 2017, 04:51:01 pm
They are very efficient. Making a big budget movie in just 12 months, even with multiple studios, is very impressive. Wonder how many years they plan to keep this going.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Jona on October 10, 2017, 04:54:34 pm
They are very efficient. Making a big budget movie in just 12 months, even with multiple studios, is very impressive. Wonder how many years they plan to keep this going.

They started filming in 2015, and only just finished post-production last month. It is a different team than those who worked on Rogue One.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Xant on October 10, 2017, 05:02:34 pm
Looks shit, just like the last movie was shit (not Rogue One, which was decent -- the Force Awakens). Entire budget spent on CGI when they should've spent it on a writer with an imagination and not someone who decided to mash the previous movies together to make one movie, only with more CGI and bigger explosions and an obligatory SJW agenda, because signalling how progressive you are is all the rage in Hollywood right now.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Gravoth_iii on October 10, 2017, 05:51:03 pm
Maybe im mixing up the movies now, but AT-AT assault looks similar to Empire. Rey or whoever was the mc again, gets taught the force in something that looks like a similar fashing just more "Wow, the force!!" rather than wax on, wax off. It makes sense that it would happen now, its just that the previous movie already felt a lot like they were just riding on the old story lines, and then this one kind of hints at similar concepts already.

It's still probably going to be solid, it just seems like they arent going for anything thats going to last. Will have to see it though, trailer doesnt give me any excitement but only makes me doubt.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Beleg on October 10, 2017, 06:17:41 pm
I understand the nostalgia factor. But people seem to be getting too excited for a series that hasn't produced a decent movie for more than 3 decades. Rogue one is the best one and it's only "passable" if you're in a good mood.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Ikarus on October 10, 2017, 07:05:25 pm
I want Kyle Katarn to be canon reeeeeee

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Trailer looks alright, spoilers a bit too much imo. I won't think that much about it until I've seen it
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Bronto on October 10, 2017, 07:40:01 pm
I'm pumped about it. I grew up with Star Wars in the 80's so it's been an interesting ride. The thing I'm most excited about is how they'll close out the saga with these last two movies. If it sucks, it can't be worse than episodes 1 through 3 or the revisions that desecrated the originals 4 through 6. If it's good, then high fives all around. I'm a pretty optimistic person so I've got that going for me. I will continue to be stoked for a new film.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Gravoth_iii on October 10, 2017, 07:59:51 pm
Its definitely going to be better than the prequel trilogy, but is that really the standards to go for?  :mrgreen: Im optimistic too, i wasnt hating on the first movie trailer and i dont hate the movie itself, its aight. Rogue one i dont even know, its aight too i suppose. Its just that now they seem to really be trying to turn me off from watching. Not only do we get the BB-8 comic relief thing which is fine, but if theyre adding that cutesy animal thing on top? Chimone bruh. And the lightsaber part, ok ive seen lightsabers. Yes theyre cool, but its like its some sort of big reveal. Less is more, after the prequels i wouldve been fine with absolutely minimal lightsaber stuff.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Bittersteel on October 10, 2017, 09:38:24 pm
Very unrealistic. Why is a woman the hero?
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Post by: Drunken_sailor on October 10, 2017, 09:39:49 pm
hero?  You my friend need to brush up on why the empire did no wrong.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Gravoth_iii on October 10, 2017, 10:04:06 pm
I'd consider Rogue One better than 'passable', but maybe that's just me.

And I struggle to understand what measurements people use when they say Episode 7 was bad, but Episodes 4 - 6 were good. I'd understand if someone just didn't think the cheesy 'adventure' style movies where protagonists are usually bullet-proof were at all to their tastes, or if they  acknowledge that the films are not high art in any form xD But if you find the original films enjoyable I don't see how Episode 7 falls short, they're very much cut from the same cloth.

Well its just that, cut from the same cloth. Why should one watch the recreation of something when they can enjoy the original.
edit: i mixed up 1-3 and 4-6 lul
There is however a good chance that the spinoffs will all be relatively good, because they are less restrained by the traditional story telling. They can do whatever they want, like rogue one did. Instead of riding of the originals ideas, theyll build their own story based on what little is actually known about the characters they envelop.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Drunken_sailor on October 10, 2017, 10:09:45 pm
this little fuzz ball is going to make more money than I will in my entire life.
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Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: the real god emperor on October 10, 2017, 10:37:56 pm
The Force Awakens was very disappointing, so my expectations are quite low. Rogue One was quite good though.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Asheram on October 10, 2017, 10:45:47 pm
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Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Beleg on October 11, 2017, 12:37:12 am
I'd consider Rogue One better than 'passable', but maybe that's just me.

And I struggle to understand what measurements people use when they say Episode 7 was bad, but Episodes 4 - 6 were good. I'd understand if someone just didn't think the cheesy 'adventure' style movies where protagonists are usually bullet-proof were at all to their tastes, or if they  acknowledge that the films are not high art in any form xD But if you find the original films enjoyable I don't see how Episode 7 falls short, they're very much cut from the same cloth.
That's the problem though, making pretty much the same thing after 30 years is a little underwhelming.Perhaps, Force awakens wouldn't be that dissapointing it was a standalone film. but as it is, it's a 2h long "lack of imagination".
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Taser on October 11, 2017, 01:20:09 am
Rogue One was much better than Force Awakens and it saddens me that they both couldn't be good.

Rogue One wasn't a super mature movie but in comparison to the regular star war movies it was. The good guys don't all make it out, there is a lot of sacrifices made and the story was more interesting. Granted its still a star wars movie and stuff happens that is out of place or only would occur in a movie but its still better than Force Awakens because the story demanded that sacrifices be made. And they didn't shy away from that by making it so nameless characters or characters you've only seen once were the ones that did it.

And yeah watching the Force Awakens and having a cheat sheet of the original trilogy would have told you exactly what was going to occur in the movie. Just.. sad. New characters, new names, same story. If they do a better job with the next 2 movies and move the story along a different path, awesome. They just might do that and there's room for it but I don't know if they will in any meaningful way.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Asheram on October 11, 2017, 01:33:39 am
Rogue One was much better than Force Awakens and it saddens me that they both couldn't be good.

Rogue One wasn't a super mature movie but in comparison to the regular star war movies it was. The good guys don't all make it out, there is a lot of sacrifices made and the story was more interesting. Granted its still a star wars movie and stuff happens that is out of place or only would occur in a movie but its still better than Force Awakens because the story demanded that sacrifices be made. And they didn't shy away from that by making it so nameless characters or characters you've only seen once were the ones that did it.

And yeah watching the Force Awakens and having a cheat sheet of the original trilogy would have told you exactly what was going to occur in the movie. Just.. sad. New characters, new names, same story. If they do a better job with the next 2 movies and move the story along a different path, awesome. They just might do that and there's room for it but I don't know if they will in any meaningful way.
Its because Rogue One had Donnie Yen  :P visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Taser on October 11, 2017, 02:13:36 am
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Very true. The jedi that wasn't a jedi.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: IR_Kuoin on October 11, 2017, 09:21:04 am
Professionally trained soldiers alright, standing behind their target, isn't laser supposed to be strong enough to penetrate? Though it never really has in any movies etc.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Beleg on October 11, 2017, 09:44:59 am
Change Donnie Yen's catch phrase to "allahu akbar" and you got yourself a picture perfect isis henchman. stay WOKE
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Vibe on October 11, 2017, 10:06:43 am
I want Kyle Katarn to be canon reeeeeee

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Trailer looks alright, spoilers a bit too much imo. I won't think that much about it until I've seen it

it's time to show these disney cucks who the real man is
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Xant on October 11, 2017, 10:58:29 am
I HATE WOMEN
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Leesin on October 11, 2017, 11:17:22 am
Professionally trained soldiers alright, standing behind their target, isn't laser supposed to be strong enough to penetrate? Though it never really has in any movies etc.

Stormtroopers are always doing stupid shit, but hey it looked cool in the movies, they also probably didn't expect getting their arses kicked by a blind guy armed with a stick.

 But they aren't actually "lasers" all the guns that fire those "laser" looking projectiles are called Blasters. As far as I remember reading, they fire bolts of energized gas, so like plasma or something, they explode on impact with varying degrees of damage. I know it's something along those lines anyway, I am sure there are more nerdy words out there for it.

And on Rogue One, it is one of the best Star Wars movies made, I don't care what anyone says, it's an awesome movie overall and it had the most epic fucking ending. I watched it twice at the Cinema, once with a friend so I could enjoy it myself and judge if I think my Son would actually watch it all, then again with my Son who is a Star Wars fan and yes he did enjoy it, he almost shat his pants in excitement at the ending when Vader fucks shit up.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Torben on October 11, 2017, 12:22:54 pm
Stormtroopers are always doing stupid shit, but hey it looked cool in the movies, they also probably didn't expect getting their arses kicked by a blind guy armed with a stick.

 But they aren't actually "lasers" all the guns that fire those "laser" looking projectiles are called Blasters. As far as I remember reading, they fire bolts of energized gas, so like plasma or something, they explode on impact with varying degrees of damage. I know it's something along those lines anyway, I am sure there are more nerdy words out there for it.

And on Rogue One, it is one of the best Star Wars movies made, I don't care what anyone says, it's an awesome movie overall and it had the most epic fucking ending. I watched it twice at the Cinema, once with a friend so I could enjoy it myself and judge if I think my Son would actually watch it all, then again with my Son who is a Star Wars fan and yes he did enjoy it, he almost shat his pants in excitement at the ending when Vader fucks shit up.

pretty much this.  I suspect anyone who shits on rogue one just having a boner for contrarianism,  or somehow was in a weird mood when watching the movie,  as that can fuck up the xp as well.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Jona on October 11, 2017, 04:42:02 pm
pretty much this.  I suspect anyone who shits on rogue one just having a boner for contrarianism,  or somehow was in a weird mood when watching the movie,  as that can fuck up the xp as well.

Tbh I enjoyed Rogue One, but I still think that it's fairly overrated as it's little more than an hour and a half of exposition for characters that ultimately we barely care about (except for the droid, he rocked) and a final half hour of an epic action sequence. Don't get me wrong, the payoff is almost worth sitting through the first 3/4 of the movie, but during my second viewing I found my mind wandering endlessly as I really just didn't give a damn about the stereotypical backstories of all the characters. You could have shown me just the last half hour and I'd probably had been able to describe the characters as well as anyone who had watched the first part. Blind karate master monk? Check. His non-believer companion? Check. Han solo knockoff? Check.
Title: Re: Good Lord So Many Feels
Post by: Jona on October 11, 2017, 06:13:47 pm
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It's definitely a hard task to make the audience care about doomed characters without making them feel like they've simply wasted their time learning about them. A movie that does that well would be saving private ryan imo. Maybe it was just the manner in which the characters were introduced that made it feel more authentic? In saving private ryan, you know why everyone is there, they got drafted to fight in ww2. Therefore, you learn about their personalities and backstories through more natural interactions. In rogue one you have these different people all sort of shoehorned into the plot, fighting on the same side for vastly different reasons. The movie almost spends as much time justifying their presence and reason for fighting as it does actually expanding on their character.  I will agree though, that the movie did wonders for the empire/death star. I almost wish they had focused on the empire's side more so than the ragtag rebel team. Maybe it would have been an easier task if you had a team of rebel soldiers that you follow from the get-go, as opposed to introducing different stereotypes along the way. I realize that it is still a star wars movie, so focusing on ONLY mundane soldiers, and nothing more mythical is a little too different of a direction for them, but since it seems like they were going for a "realistic" war movie, that would have been the better alternative, imo.