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Title: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on September 23, 2017, 08:40:11 am
Wake up, sheeple. Working is no different from slavery. And the ultimate joke? It's not even necessary.


http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/public-service/the-modern-phenomenon-of-bullshit-jobs-20130831-2sy3j.html
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: IR_Kuoin on September 23, 2017, 09:23:40 am
Hang on, working on a way to get permanent welfare.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: dagu807 on September 23, 2017, 09:44:40 am
meanwhile i work comfily in my joinery
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Casul on September 23, 2017, 01:28:20 pm
No worries guys, if you need a solid job just go to Ireland and join Warlock Wireless.

Heard they need a guy who finishes 2 pair of gauntlets per year now Zimke has been fired.

Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: njames89 on September 23, 2017, 01:30:12 pm
Working is good for when you want to acquire wealth for things like:

-Buying Trucks
-Buying Guns
-Going on Vacation

Not doing the things you love and not seeing the world... Fuck man that is straight up sad.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Ikarus on September 23, 2017, 01:33:33 pm
I already work on models and animations in my free time, so there's barely a difference when I get paid for it. Plus, people at work teach me new shit for knowledge which I would have to pay a fortune in private courses.

sheeps are nice
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Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Casul on September 23, 2017, 01:35:37 pm
Sheeps are very nice yes

#AESTHETICmusic

Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: njames89 on September 23, 2017, 01:37:18 pm
Sheep, the new plated charger

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Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Zimke Zlovoljni on September 23, 2017, 03:19:21 pm
Quote from: Cassi on September 23, 2017, 01:28:20 pm
No worries guys, if you need a solid job just go to Ireland and join Warlock Wireless.

Heard they need a guy who finishes 2 pair of gauntlets per year now Zimke has been fired.
You're a funny guy.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Drunken_sailor on September 23, 2017, 05:44:57 pm
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WE'VE DONE IT
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: dagu807 on September 23, 2017, 06:17:07 pm
Quote from: Drunken_sailor on September 23, 2017, 05:44:57 pm
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WE'VE DONE IT
*upboat*
Praised be r/atheism
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Asheram on September 23, 2017, 06:24:31 pm
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Gravoth_iii on September 23, 2017, 06:25:11 pm
Quote from: Xant on September 23, 2017, 08:40:11 am
Wake up, sheeple. Working is no different from slavery. And the ultimate joke? It's not even necessary.


http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/public-service/the-modern-phenomenon-of-bullshit-jobs-20130831-2sy3j.html

I agree, we should just dish out an equal amount of money to everyone no matter their job or lack there of. It is current year after all, working was a thing of the past anyways, still working now? might as well bring back crusades and other trash we've left behind.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on September 24, 2017, 01:47:59 am
Is it Monday yet? Is it time for sheeple to go to work? I don't know because I have no idea what day it is! Days mean nothing! LOSERS!!
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on September 24, 2017, 01:59:57 am
https://youtu.be/JX_zmcVE0Wc?t=306
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Asheram on September 24, 2017, 02:39:49 am
Quote from: Xant on September 24, 2017, 01:47:59 am
Is it Monday yet? Is it time for sheeple to go to work? I don't know because I have no idea what day it is! Days mean nothing! LOSERS!!
sounds confusing, did you just watch
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on September 24, 2017, 03:22:02 am
Quote from: Asheram on September 24, 2017, 02:39:49 am
sounds confusing, did you just watch
Why would I watch a trailer about my life?
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Asheram on September 24, 2017, 03:24:18 am
he was losing track of time too
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on September 25, 2017, 01:39:36 pm
Quote from: HESKEYTIME on September 25, 2017, 11:11:06 am
Baaaaah
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Time to put my Weekend Waifu in the washing machine and bring out the Weekday Waifu.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: IR_Kuoin on September 25, 2017, 01:50:57 pm
I wouldn't say self-improvement fits on that side, generally, how many people who sit around on welfare spend the time improving themselves in anything outside of videgames, unless it counts towards self improvement to be able to frag more during a round of Counter-Strike.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on September 25, 2017, 01:59:16 pm
Quote from: HESKEYTIME on September 25, 2017, 01:41:59 pm
They put 'roasties' on the wrong side of the image
I don't know what those are but I disagree on principle.

Quote from: IR_Kuoin on September 25, 2017, 01:50:57 pm
I wouldn't say self-improvement fits on that side, generally, how many people who sit around on welfare spend the time improving themselves in anything outside of videgames, unless it counts towards self improvement to be able to frag more during a round of Counter-Strike.
Uhm, excuse me? It totally does count as self improvement, and I hope you're not implying this isn't a good use of my NEET time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgPDFVOiaU0
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: LordBerenger on September 26, 2017, 01:07:17 am
Lets setup a CRPG Bank Robber crew instead of working.

We'll be rich in no time.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Drunken_sailor on September 26, 2017, 03:50:48 am
"Can you describe the suspects?"

"They seemed to have severe autism and kept on demanding that we build a siege tower and also that the enemy was inside their base."

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dah fuck is a roastie?
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Leshma on September 26, 2017, 04:34:23 pm
Quote from: IR_Kuoin on September 25, 2017, 01:50:57 pm
I wouldn't say self-improvement fits on that side, generally, how many people who sit around on welfare spend the time improving themselves in anything outside of videgames, unless it counts towards self improvement to be able to frag more during a round of Counter-Strike.

Neets are one of those groups with huge potential on paper. Like fat people. There's a ton of them, they are looked down by society, no one is taking their stance, they just need a leader to unite them and lead them to victory over other groups. Problem is, fat people are addicted to sugar and like all addicts are worthless as soldiers.

Neets on the other hand, many are fat but that's due to welfare. If they cut of welfare, neets become bums but not in an instant. Before that they could be very dangerous if organized properly unlike fat people (addicts).

Just look what gays and transsexuals have done and they are few in numbers. Neets could go very high if they realize their potential instead of playing into elite's hand by playing stupid video games whole day. Neets are that lower middle class which have means at their disposals but lack will to turn those means into weapons. Even slaves and other poor people without means managed to do great things throughout history. Neets have an easier path to salvation. Problem is most neets are shut down people, isolated from each other and raised to hate themselves for what they are. With a little bit of leadership they could become strongest lobby group around. Stronger than gayjews.

Xant doesn't look like much but could become dangerous individual or even more dangerous as part of a group with common goal. Who knows, maybe neets are new barbarians who will wipe out current society like Hun and Germanic tribes did with Roman Empire. Lead us into a new era.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on September 26, 2017, 06:35:03 pm
Quote from: Leshma on September 26, 2017, 04:34:23 pm

Xant doesn't look like much but could become dangerous individual or even more dangerous as part of a group with common goal. Who knows, maybe neets are new barbarians who will wipe out current society like Hun and Germanic tribes did with Roman Empire. Lead us into a new era.
Make no mistake, Lemhsan, I'm the most dangerous individual you've ever come across, online or offline. Especially if you're on the opposing team in Counter Strike.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Son Of Odin on September 26, 2017, 07:03:28 pm
Quote from: Xant on September 26, 2017, 06:35:03 pm
Make no mistake, Lemhsan, I'm the most dangerous individual you've ever come across, online or offline. Especially if you're on the opposing team in Counter Strike.

Wrong. The most dangerous individuals I come across in Counter Strike are some random not even 10 y o Russian kids screeching memes in their mother tongue. It's because I just get the urge to kill myself when I hear their attempts of communication. Oh well maybe my hearing will get bad enough as I get older and I don't hear such high pitch sounds anymore...
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on September 26, 2017, 07:49:06 pm
Quote from: Son Of Odin on September 26, 2017, 07:03:28 pm
Wrong. The most dangerous individuals I come across in Counter Strike are some random not even 10 y o Russian kids screeching memes in their mother tongue. It's because I just get the urge to kill myself when I hear their attempts of communication. Oh well maybe my hearing will get bad enough as I get older and I don't hear such high pitch sounds anymore...
Playing CS with voice_enable 1 is asking for ear/brain damage.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Casul on September 26, 2017, 09:02:46 pm
Quote from: Xant on September 26, 2017, 07:49:06 pm
Playing CS with voice_enable 1 is asking for ear/brain damage.

Playing CS at all is asking for it in general
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: IR_Kuoin on September 26, 2017, 09:23:34 pm
Let's arrange a CS tournament with Xant vs challengers
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Son Of Odin on September 26, 2017, 10:24:32 pm
Quote from: Xant on September 26, 2017, 07:49:06 pm
Playing CS with voice_enable 1 is asking for ear/brain damage.

True. I hadn't played CS in years and just tried to have it on for a while to see people actually use it for strategy and cooperation nowadays. I figured the whole esports mania could have made it a thing in public servers as well but some things never change. If you want team play you play with some buddies and use discord, teamspeak or *add your preferred voice software here*. It is what it is.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Drunken_sailor on September 27, 2017, 06:04:30 am
Quote from: HESKEYTIME on September 26, 2017, 05:46:20 pm
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yummm looks like I'm making some potatoes this weekend.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: njames89 on September 27, 2017, 01:20:50 pm
Quote from: HESKEYTIME on September 27, 2017, 10:03:12 am
the only thing the Irish man had in his cupboards was potatoes

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Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Paul on September 27, 2017, 01:28:35 pm
After the Great Famine it is regarded as a great privilege to store potatoes in your furniture. It's an insult to the victims if you don't.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Jona on September 27, 2017, 06:46:50 pm
Quote from: HESKEYTIME on September 27, 2017, 10:03:12 am
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Real talk though, what time were you guys getting together to fry up some taters and watch the fight? That shit was on really late for us east coasters, and you're 5-6 hours ahead of us. 6 AM tater party? Or you plebs had to pull up some VODs the night after?
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on September 28, 2017, 10:39:27 am
Quote from: HESKEYTIME on September 28, 2017, 10:13:09 am
All I remember is it was at least 7am when we went to bed.
In the same bed?
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on October 08, 2017, 07:14:22 pm
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Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on February 16, 2018, 07:45:55 pm
Wake up, sheeple. Even more work is pointless in 2018.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX_zmcVE0Wc&feature=youtu.be&t=306
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Asheram on February 16, 2018, 08:05:50 pm
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Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on February 16, 2018, 08:08:33 pm
Quote from: Asheram on February 16, 2018, 08:05:50 pm
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https://youtu.be/JX_zmcVE0Wc?t=59
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Kadeth on February 16, 2018, 11:19:05 pm
teach me how to fake depression xant, i'm tired of working
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Paul on February 17, 2018, 12:27:16 am
Quote from: Kadeth on February 16, 2018, 11:19:05 pm
teach me how to fake depression xant, i'm tired of working

Nooo, you'll lose your good goy points.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Butan on February 17, 2018, 09:20:51 am
Even though I live off pointless jobs I am pretty impatient to have robots take over and either watch the world burn from it, or become radically different in a better way.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on February 17, 2018, 09:27:17 am
Quote from: Kadeth on February 16, 2018, 11:19:05 pm
teach me how to fake depression xant, i'm tired of working

through fruitless, likely poisonous journey through the bowels of the internet, I have discovered that there does exist a proper guide to falsely claiming SSI/Disability in the US through feigned mental illness

the author makes a good point in saying that sure, it might be called malingering but what actual sane person would go through the immense trouble and social shame of claiming pretty much a pittance in disability just so they don't have to work?

google "uncle remus' guide to SSI: get your autismbux here" for further info. i only approve use of this guide for entertainment purposes, but have something of respect/tolerance for accelerationists that wish to bring the State and other things like that down quicker
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Butan on February 17, 2018, 09:37:07 am
Quote from: Sandersson Jankins on February 17, 2018, 09:27:17 am
have something of respect/tolerance for accelerationists that wish to bring the State and other things like that down quicker

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Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on February 17, 2018, 10:33:49 am
Quote from: Butan on February 17, 2018, 09:37:07 am
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doesn't bother me, it basically comes down to this: who are you more angry at if you become the victim of theft? are you more angry at the putrid thief, or are you more angry at the naiive/greasy individual that purchases these stolen items from a fence?

certainly i am no fan of people i consider leeches- but i will be stolen from regardless of their existence and i care only little on who the end-recipient is. only who the thief is.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Rando on February 23, 2018, 02:50:18 pm
daily reminder
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Quote from: Sandersson Jankins on February 17, 2018, 09:27:17 am
through fruitless, likely poisonous journey through the bowels of the internet, I have discovered that there does exist a proper guide to falsely claiming SSI/Disability in the US through feigned mental illness

the author makes a good point in saying that sure, it might be called malingering but what actual sane person would go through the immense trouble and social shame of claiming pretty much a pittance in disability just so they don't have to work?

google "uncle remus' guide to SSI: get your autismbux here" for further info. i only approve use of this guide for entertainment purposes, but have something of respect/tolerance for accelerationists that wish to bring the State and other things like that down quicker

lol, I remember this shit. there is a lot of truth to the idea of someone being clearly mentally ill if they'd go to such lengths to not have to leave home at all.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Asheram on March 03, 2018, 08:35:16 pm
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Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on March 03, 2018, 08:40:25 pm
>tfw sacrificing 50% of your life so a CEO can make 0.0000000000000001% more money
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Asheram on March 03, 2018, 08:49:49 pm
I work for a plumbing company doing pre-fab, which now has recently been aquired by another more successful plumbing company that does esop. The benefits help all in my company not just "CEO".
https://www.nceo.org/articles/esop-employee-stock-ownership-plan
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on March 03, 2018, 11:16:36 pm
Quote from: Asheram on March 03, 2018, 08:49:49 pm
I work for a plumbing company doing pre-fab, which now has recently been aquired by another more successful plumbing company that does esop. The benefits help all in my company not just "CEO".
https://www.nceo.org/articles/esop-employee-stock-ownership-plan
That's great, I'm sure it'll make you rich.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Asheram on March 03, 2018, 11:19:21 pm
Quote from: Xant on March 03, 2018, 11:16:36 pm
That's great, I'm sure it'll make you rich.
lol I have no delusions thinking it will make me rich, just that I will have something to retire on. Are you getting rich?
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on March 04, 2018, 12:07:46 am
Quote from: Asheram on March 03, 2018, 11:19:21 pm
lol I have no delusions thinking it will make me rich, just that I will have something to retire on. Are you getting rich?
Of course -- spiritually. Materialism is beneath me. It's how They get you to become their slave.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Asheram on March 04, 2018, 12:17:52 am
Quote from: Xant on March 04, 2018, 12:07:46 am
Of course -- spiritually. Materialism is beneath me. It's how They get you to become their slave.
So you are self sufficient, grow your own food, make your own electronics, clothes housing etc.? If not who is working for you? If everyone stops working where does it all come from?
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on March 04, 2018, 12:38:49 am
Quote from: Asheram on March 04, 2018, 12:17:52 am
So you are self sufficient, grow your own food, make your own electronics, clothes housing etc.? If not who is working for you? If everyone stops working where does it all come from?
The good citizens of Finland work for me, naturally. I'm like a samurai, warrior caste. I don't work in peace time. If everyone stopped working then perhaps the wildlife would recover and the Creatures of The Earth would return in great numbers, and we would frolic in nature and be able to hunt out own food once more.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Ikarus on March 04, 2018, 12:50:11 am
back to the basics

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Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Leshma on March 04, 2018, 12:56:40 am
I'm actually striving to take this latest invention of capitalism, final solution leading to global slavery called blockchain and cryptocurrencies and put them to an actual good use. On paper it was ideal replacement for current system that is faulty, but in practice it shows just how much free market can be unfair and that it doesn't regulate itself fairly and create even more wealth gulf. I want to use crypto to foster growth of free software development. Biggest problem free software is facing is detachment from economy and usually author of free software can't pay for their bills. I want to make it easier for them to earn money by developing free sofware by using cryptocurrency as payment system. And I specifically want to target free sofware and not create platforms that never get used for anything worthwhile like Ethereum for example. Cryptocurrency micropayments is the best way to donate to free software authors and do it fairly.

First we had proprietary software being mainstream trend back in 90s and 90s. In the 90s shareware was all the rage. First decade of new millenia was mostly about proprietary software mixed with freeware which later turned into crapware/adware, freeware infested with ads. Then Google made the whole ad platform that raised whole marketing business on entirely new level. In the meantime among developers free software gained serious traction. It is time to introduce new payment method for software that trancends ad based revenue model. Propriatery software transformed from being pay per copy to pay for service or subscribe for service. Think that crypto payments for free software could create strong enough ecocystem to purge latest invention of proprietary software proponents.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Tibes on March 04, 2018, 01:47:53 pm
Quote from: Leshma on March 04, 2018, 12:56:40 am
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Sorry if im to ignorant to follow. But how would donating through crypto be different from donating with convetional money? Its still owned by a individual isnt it, who still makes the decision whether to give it or not? How would that make freeware makers life easier?

In general software life is hard. People will pay 500+€ for a phone without even blinking an eye. But will think about buying an .80 cent app like its the biggest decision in their life.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Butan on March 04, 2018, 02:13:41 pm
Quote from: Tibes on March 04, 2018, 01:47:53 pm
But how would donating through crypto be different from donating with convetional money?

0 middleman.


I'm unsure of the capacity of crypto but it has very big potential; Leshma might not be completely wrong and/or delusional (incredible!). Besides extremely heavy regulations or total prohibition, it might change a lot of things economy-wise for the common man in the next years. Atm its very niche, completely opaque, fraudulent and extremely risky. Just like any big old innovations might I add.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Tibes on March 04, 2018, 02:46:18 pm
Quote from: Butan on March 04, 2018, 02:13:41 pm
0 middleman.


I'm unsure of the capacity of crypto but it has very big potential; Leshma might not be completely wrong and/or delusional (incredible!). Besides extremely heavy regulations or total prohibition, it might change a lot of things economy-wise for the common man in the next years. Atm its very niche, completely opaque, fraudulent and extremely risky. Just like any big old innovations might I add.

I doubt such an method of 0 middlemen on financial transactions would stay legal for long. The governments always want their cut and will enforce laws to get it, not to mention currently existing middlemen, who hold serious sway in pretty much every countries politics and media. If it wont comply, the lobbying against it will increase substantially. It already has. Like crypto likes terrorists or is taking everyones jobs...
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Butan on March 04, 2018, 03:53:25 pm
Quote from: Tibes on March 04, 2018, 02:46:18 pm
I doubt such an method of 0 middlemen on financial transactions would stay legal for long. The governments always want their cut and will enforce laws to get it, not to mention currently existing middlemen, who hold serious sway in pretty much every countries politics and media. If it wont comply, the lobbying against it will increase substantially. It already has. Like crypto likes terrorists or is taking everyones jobs...

I believe that too. All good concepts end up getting permeated by the reality of today. But it probably will change things in a couple direction that could be beneficial to some people (its way less encouraging than Leshma speech but probably closer to the truth lmao).
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Leshma on March 04, 2018, 10:36:02 pm
Quote from: Tibes on March 04, 2018, 01:47:53 pm
Sorry if im to ignorant to follow. But how would donating through crypto be different from donating with convetional money? Its still owned by a individual isnt it, who still makes the decision whether to give it or not? How would that make freeware makers life easier?

In general software life is hard. People will pay 500+€ for a phone without even blinking an eye. But will think about buying an .80 cent app like its the biggest decision in their life.

Donating via usual means is a hassle for most people which is why most donations to free software happen through Patreon platform which again ask you to open account to donate and receive donations, with Patreon being middleman and taking percentage from every transaction. Recently they decided to raise fee then retracted that decision after public outrage.

My idea is for free software donations to be:
- free as software you're donating it, fully transparent and open source
- decentralized which means I and my program are just one of many and therefore it is wrong to place mandatory fee on donations, if someone wants to donate to free software he can donate to me as well because my platform is just another piece software in the network
-  decentralized network based model, therefore
- extremely fast transactions
- reasonably secure transactions
- extreme ease of use
- anonymous with option for registration

From business standpoint, it is crap idea because it won't generate steady revenue but I don't want it to be another platform where I'm the only centralized node everybody else have to pay money. Because that will transform whole decentralized network in classic vertical hierarchy where certain nodes will be more important than others. Completely defeats the purpose to place mandatory fee upon transactions.

My implementation would target specifically free software community and therefore I need to respect the rules of that community. Getting rich is not the reason for working on it, it should stimulate free software and make it financially more viable for single developers or small teams. Centralization of resources and hierachical systems aren't in my focus at all.

Basically you go to some github like website that hosts free software, enter sum of crypto you want to donate, press donate button and you're done. It shoud be over in few seconds, ideally should happen in miliseconds, takes no mandatory fee but you can pay the platform developer by doing the same on his github like page. Which I think most people would do. All it takes is to have crypto and this will require new coin or at least fork of existing one to satisfy technological requirements and ensure transparency and fee free nature of transactions. Which is why I'm saying most cryptocoins aren't viable option because they are too general in nature. Just by putting 5% premined options in my wallet I could earn enough money to sustain development for years to come because working implementation would ensure high market cap of that coin. Even crap coins have market capitalisations that are in ranges of millions of dollars, it takes very little to better that and creating first truly useful implementaton of blockchain would make author rich, he needs no extra fees.

Edit: How will someone pay. Well this would be a program, with background service taking care of everything. You'd need coins and you'll get them with usual means, mining or trading.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Leshma on March 04, 2018, 10:57:25 pm
Quote from: Tibes on March 04, 2018, 02:46:18 pm
I doubt such an method of 0 middlemen on financial transactions would stay legal for long. The governments always want their cut and will enforce laws to get it, not to mention currently existing middlemen, who hold serious sway in pretty much every countries politics and media. If it wont comply, the lobbying against it will increase substantially. It already has. Like crypto likes terrorists or is taking everyones jobs...

Crypto is already regulated to certain degree in some countries. Idea of VAT is wrong for crypto because it unessesarily puts a burden on transactions. Taxes should be one, at the end of the year like big bulk of taxes are in the USA. I'm okay with paying taxes to government if said government uses taxes in reasonavle way. But paying for every purshase is bullshit. One bill, with listed taxes, end of the year, digital, paid in crypto, thank you very much. Automate the process as much you can.

Besides in blockchain it is impossible to hide, sooner or later thieves and those who hide their wealth will be identified. Which makes collecting taxes easy peasy because it is trivial to create a script to deanonymize and list you profile for the period with earned/spent crypto and calculate tax based on that. As long it is free software, doing digital versions of offshore accounts would be much harder. I'm not for tracking but it will probably become a prctice in crypto and whole anon thing will become thing of the past because bad people use anon nature to do wrong things with crypto.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Kadeth on March 04, 2018, 11:08:45 pm
The future of Leshcoin is bright; I'm preparing my miners as we speak.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on March 04, 2018, 11:45:27 pm
Stop hijacking my thread pls
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Asheram on March 04, 2018, 11:50:18 pm
Quote from: Kadeth on March 04, 2018, 11:08:45 pm
The future of Leshcoin is bright; I'm preparing my miners as we speak.
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Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on March 05, 2018, 12:38:03 am
Quote from: Tibes on March 04, 2018, 02:46:18 pm
I doubt such an method of 0 middlemen on financial transactions would stay legal for long. The governments always want their cut and will enforce laws to get it, not to mention currently existing middlemen, who hold serious sway in pretty much every countries politics and media. If it wont comply, the lobbying against it will increase substantially. It already has. Like crypto likes terrorists or is taking everyones jobs...

think you're right, and think I've seen a decent amount of agitprop running around about crypto. mainly trying to link it inextricably to illicit (hard) drugs, scary black firearms, human trafficking, that Deep Web thing that 62 year old Bernice might have heard about one time and sounds really sketchy

one thing is certain, daddy gub'mint and associated entities will not tolerate a system of currency that competes quite well in mainstream venues with the United States Aircraft Carrier Group Shekel
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Paul on March 05, 2018, 08:08:18 am
Quote from: Xant on March 04, 2018, 11:45:27 pm
Stop hijacking my thread pls

Ask the good citizen of Finland for a raise, so you can speculate with powerwastecoins too.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Drunken_sailor on March 10, 2018, 05:36:00 am
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Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on April 10, 2018, 02:38:02 pm
WeForum has numbers on the bullshit-jobs phenomenon: “In a 2013 survey of 12,000 professionals by the Harvard Business Review, half said they felt their job had no “meaning and significance,” and an equal number were unable to relate to their company’s mission, while another poll among 230,000 employees in 142 countries showed that only 13% of workers actually like their job. A recent poll among Brits revealed that as many as 37% think they have a job that is utterly useless.”

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/04/why-its-time-to-rethink-the-meaning-of-work/
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Leshma on April 10, 2018, 03:20:14 pm
Many jobs are indeed utterly useless. Most state jobs for example some kind of clerk who gets paid to sign something that could be offered online and printed basically for free, but we're paying some schmuck to sit in the office and do such menial job for those who are so incompetent to do it themselves. Or even some high profile jobs like consultancy which is form of legalized money laungering. Many individuals operate in this, well I wouldn't call it industry but it is big enough to be called like that. Snake oil salesmen, most of them. But they know the man who knows the man and intertwined like that they control large portion of society financial resources. Banksters, brokers, politicians, various economist, law and financial experts fall under this category of high class parasites.

On the other end of the spectrum there are many jobs that lack manpower which really make a difference in people's lives but such jobs usually involve high degree of expertise and experience. Those jobs are mostly about improving the most important aspects of human lives with modern technology.

Just because some jobs in our society make people feel uncomfortable about themselves doesn't mean all jobs are meaningless.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Paul on April 10, 2018, 04:01:43 pm
Most Games Are Pointless (https://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2016/september/AI-agent-survives-doom.html) In 2016

First our jobs, then our joys! Slaves and NEETs unite against the electronical evil.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on April 10, 2018, 04:21:28 pm
Quote from: Leshma on April 10, 2018, 03:20:14 pm
doesn't mean all jobs are meaningless.
Did you read the title of the thread?
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Turkhammer on April 10, 2018, 06:44:54 pm
Quote from: Drunken_sailor on March 10, 2018, 05:36:00 am
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Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Drunken_sailor on April 10, 2018, 06:55:50 pm
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Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Sniger on April 12, 2018, 01:02:07 pm
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Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Golem on April 12, 2018, 04:11:50 pm
So basically you have to make a mess, if you just place something where it belongs, you for sure are not doing any work.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Sniger on April 19, 2018, 01:47:34 pm
Quote from: Xant on September 23, 2017, 08:40:11 am
It's not even necessary.

there is a therapeutic effect going on when you work as well as cleaning your apartment. it is best for the human mind to be activated. idle hands is the devils playground.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on April 19, 2018, 08:34:24 pm
Your mom is the devil's playground.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Asheram on April 19, 2018, 08:44:42 pm
Quote from: Sniger on April 19, 2018, 01:47:34 pm
idle hands is the devils playground.
Loved that movie "Idle Hands"
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Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Drunken_sailor on April 19, 2018, 11:17:39 pm
Oh jeez now I'm going to have to watch that quality stoner flick again.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Leshma on April 19, 2018, 11:20:09 pm
Leshma's communist manifesto, excerpt Working schedule:

- 3 shifts, you choose shift for next day every day, no mixing shifts and rest of that flexible working hours exploitation scheme

S1
7:00 AM go to fucking work
7:30 AM arrive at work, if you arrive early take a 15 min pause
8:15 AM after focused first working segment you get 5 min pause to clear your head and relax a bit
8:20 AM go back to working
8:55 AM another pause
9:00 AM third segment is fully under way of first half of working day
9:45 AM you're so fucking done with first half a day after 2 hours and 15 mins of effective work
9:45 AM physical exercise for aprox 1 hour and 15 minutes, you choose which sport
11:00 AM lunch break half an hour
11:30 AM second half starts
12:15 PM 5 minute relaxation
12:20 PM 5/6 working segment
13:05 PM 5 minute break
13:55 PM days off
14:25 PM home sweet home

S2
9:00 AM go to fucking work
9:30 AM arrive at work, if you arrive early take a 15 min pause
10:15 AM after focused first working segment you get 5 min pause to clear your head and relax a bit
10:20 AM go back to working
10:55 AM another pause
11:00 AM third segment is fully under way of first half of working day
11:45 AM you're so fucking done with first half a day after 2 hours and 15 mins of effective work
11:45 AM physical exercise for aprox 1 hour and 15 minutes, you choose which sport
13:00 PM lunch break half an hour
13:30 PM second half starts
14:15 PM 5 minute relaxation
14:20 PM 5/6 working segment
15:05 PM 5 minute break
15:55 PM days off
16:25 PM home sweet home


S2
11:00 AM go to fucking work
11:30 AM arrive at work, if you arrive early take a 15 min pause
12:15 AM after focused first working segment you get 5 min pause to clear your head and relax a bit
12:20 AM go back to working
12:55 AM another pause
13:00 AM third segment is fully under way of first half of working day
13:45 AM you're so fucking done with first half a day after 2 hours and 15 mins of effective work
13:45 AM physical exercise for aprox 1 hour and 15 minutes, you choose which sport
15:00 PM lunch break half an hour
15:30 PM second half starts
16:15 PM 5 minute relaxation
16:20 PM 5/6 working segment
17:05 PM 5 minute break
17:55 PM days off
18:25 PM home sweet home

You spend 7 hours and 25 minutes each day combined on working, exercising, eating lunch and commuting. Rest of the day if yours to spend on family. Results in healthy nation devoid of unnecessary stress. Work place has to be near living place, you'll get housing provided to you (communism bro) but that doesn't it won't be nice and comfy and there would be no choice. Having dull housing piles up the stress levels and we new age commies don't want to repeat same mistakes. More family time means steady population growth. No crazy immigration, most people should be happy living and working where they are born. If you want to move that option will be enabled to you, but statistically that falls under 10% of population.

Out of 445 mins or 7 hours and 25 minutes you spend:
6 x 45 mins = 270 mins  = 4 hours and 30 minutes effectively working without any idle time which is serious increase in average workers productivity
75 mins = 1 hour 15 mins on physical exercise, more than enough for normal human per day, if you need more for unhealthy obsession such as bodybuilding to the max you go to gulag motherfucker
30 mins to eat which is more than enough
60 mins top on commuting but ideally should be combined 30 mins on average, from home door to your working desk/place. Quality transport and providing of nearby housing for workers should enable that, what you don't spend on commuting is your free time to chill
4 x 5 mins = 20 mins on natural pauses between working segments to keep your mind sharp
Total = 445 mins 100%
Work = 270 mins ~ 60%
Relaxation = 20 mins ~ 4%
Activities = 105 mins ~ 23%
Commute = 60 mins ~ 13%
Leisure time = 40%

No service work because we're all equal citizens with enough time for ourself to take care of our children (mothers get special benefits), to clean after ourselves and to buy without the assistance of service providers. Every job has to be creative and fulfilling and lead to creation of new value through work. No night shifts!

Hoarding of wealth is punishable by removal from society.

If our collective struggle improves our conditions these schedules are bound to take even less time of our day if we find a way to improve on effectivness of work, eating and exercise.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Drunken_sailor on April 20, 2018, 05:48:50 pm
So as a Communist/Marxist whatever u are, do you support universal basic income and robots doing all the work so that people don't have to?
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Leshma on April 20, 2018, 09:09:11 pm
Well we should automate salesmen and dumbed down service jobs like that, technology is (almost) there. But people should work and universal income for sitting on ones ass isn't working. Also interest rates and whole economy based on it must perish. Means Jews need to change their occupation.

I'm declaring as communist but things I stand for fall into Henry Ford category. Henry Ford's capitalism is modern day communism. He used human labor do job that isn't very fulfulling but at the time there was no better way. If he was about to be born today he would use robots to assemble cars but would find jobs for creative people to design them. But more importantly his cars would be quality and affordable at the same time, not one of the today like it is so typical today or even none of those. Dudes like Ford are considered as chocolate chip cookie loving brutal capitalist but compared to modern capitalist they are in fact communist in their approach to business. Ford didn't like Unions tho but if you're treating your workers well there is no need for Union.

Americans who pushed the country forward at the start of 20th century were specific people, they weren't afraid to get dirty, didn't behave like bourgeoisie even tho were much wealthier than them and some of them actually cared about people who worked for them and didn't exploit them most of the time like modern enterpreneurs do.

Of course not all British/American capitalists of early 20th century were like that. Rockefeller was shit human, just like everybody else from his family line. And Rothschilds, but they are Jewish banker family so it is expected for them to be predators.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on April 21, 2018, 06:24:50 am
We should automate YOU, idiot. What do you have to say about THAT?
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Paul on April 21, 2018, 09:12:24 am
Even if AI is advanced enough to emulate normal human being, creating a Leshma-bot is still decades away.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: [ptx] on April 21, 2018, 09:40:09 am
http://www.businessinsider.com/finland-to-end-basic-income-experiment-2018-4

Uh-oh, Xant.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Asheram on April 21, 2018, 10:18:58 am
ruh roh
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Casul on April 21, 2018, 01:05:06 pm
Quote from: Paul on April 21, 2018, 09:12:24 am
Even if AI is advanced enough to emulate normal human being, creating a Leshma-bot is still decades away.

And even if, why would anyone want a bugged software in his personal robo
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Xant on April 21, 2018, 06:40:53 pm
Quote from: [ptx] on April 21, 2018, 09:40:09 am
http://www.businessinsider.com/finland-to-end-basic-income-experiment-2018-4

Uh-oh, Xant.
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Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on April 21, 2018, 08:53:01 pm
Quote from: Paul on April 21, 2018, 09:12:24 am
Even if AI is advanced enough to emulate normal human being, creating a Leshma-bot is still decades away.

+1 not just for this post, paul you have been fucking SLAYING IT in forums burns. Keep it up.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Leshma on April 22, 2018, 01:25:13 am
Quote from: Cassi on April 21, 2018, 01:05:06 pm
And even if, why would anyone want a bugged software in his personal robo

Stories about bugged AI are always interesting ones especially if made into movies but sadly not interesting as say, watching naked females.
Title: Re: Most Work Is Pointless In 2017
Post by: Kadeth on April 23, 2018, 06:45:12 am
Quote from: Leshma on April 22, 2018, 01:25:13 am
not interesting as say, watching naked females.

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