we should be able to vote admins out of power somehow. if the higher ups arent on to save us commonfolk the local warlords will fuck US ALL
muted for saying niggard yet there is a player with the name niggardly old bastard?
p.s. i really do swear I didn't say anything illegally profane before this. this is it(click to show/hide)
- NOT OK: Substituting a slur with a synonym that's not outright offensive (i.e - saying nigga instead of friend, whereas context makes it clear what the intention of saying it was)
I see the book you're writing about where Sparvico touched you is coming along nicely. Can't wait to hear about it on Oprah.
Friday, July 14, 2017
11:45 PM - sugarbiggums: hey maybe if u had some hair this wouldnt get to your head as much u bald shit
11:45 PM - sugarbiggums: id like to know how it was offensive
11:45 PM - sugarbiggums: i like to hunt racoons in my free time
11:45 PM - sugarbiggums: im a hunter i have hobbies
11:46 PM - sugarbiggums: i dont have a full time career adminning like u
11:46 PM - sugarbiggums: is this what ur parents wanted u to be
11:46 PM - sugarbiggums: are they proud of you
11:46 PM - sugarbiggums: have they ever looked at u and were like
11:46 PM - sugarbiggums: damn my sons bald and a full time friendnerd
11:47 PM - sugarbiggums: noone will ever love u because youre fucking bald
11:47 PM - Sparvico: Racism isn't allowed on the server, yet you have been continually breaking that rule one way or another for weeks. If you don't follow the server rules you get banned. Pretty simple.
11:47 PM - sugarbiggums: not racism
11:47 PM - sugarbiggums: hunting racoons isnt racist
11:47 PM - sugarbiggums: youre racist for thinking it is
11:47 PM - sugarbiggums: fucking racist scum
11:48 PM - sugarbiggums: youre fucking bald and youll never have hair on top of your head ever again
11:48 PM - sugarbiggums: pretty simple
11:49 PM - sugarbiggums: rules werent made since last week so i cant indite me for past crimes
11:49 PM - sugarbiggums: do you shine your head you bald fuck
Guess we know who took a liberal arts degree, enjoying the debt? : )
being banned for 3 days from crpg will spur anyone to unnatureal measureas
The whole argument over "context" is absolutely pathetic. Someone can have the fucking name Niggardly Old Bastard and you dismiss him as a cheap skate... no push for any offensive context there? AT ALL? Do you hear yourself? I get muted for using "niggard" simply because of YOUR implied context while this man carries the name "Niggardly_Old_Bastard"? Why can't his name be mean old bastard? or stubborn old bastard? His name is as much of a fucking contextual pun and you elect to ignore it. The ability for Sparvico to decide how far and wide a word can relate to something offensive is a power he is abusing as much as the many people tonight abused chat.
Several people, within several seconds had all said a racist slur. I recall sugar being the very last person in the chain to type something offensive. Sugar ended up being the first and only person to be muted. Why Sugar? Because throughout the previous several minutes Sugar had been making personal attacks against Sparvico. That is an example of preferential application of administrative authority in chat. Sugar had also been making personal attacks in chat against Pistachio. Sparvico proceeded to mute Sugar for this instance as well, despite the lack of any racial slurs in that instance.
I am not claiming that personal attacks/griefing in chat should be allowable, what I am arguing, however, is that Sparvico is beyond inconsistent with his enforcement of "no griefing", or "no slurs" in chat. Clearly the racial slur "friend" is the, by popular opinion, most deplorable insult to use, but, as I showed in the example where Sugar was muted for simply "talking shit", using the word "friend" is apparently not the only chat rule Sparvico will assign mutes for.
So; we have established that there are occasions in which Sparvico will institute mutes that do NOT have to do with the afore mentioned slur. If this is the case: Then why are other chat rules that Uther has established not consistently enforced? When "friend" is used, 95% (pretty much) of the time it seems to result in a mute. Never have I seen a mute assigned for any other slurs, racial or homophobic. I have seen Sparvico's attempts at shit talk, and he loves to use the word "my old friend", as do I. Surely my old friend is offensive in some degree? If the name "spookyghost_whocarriesatorch" alludes to
"racist ideology and the lynching of African Americans"
then why is using the direct word "my old friend" okay? Homosexuals have been murdered, tortured, and prosecuted thousands of years before the modern racial demographic was established, and were still being persecuted in First World countries decades after blacks received the right to vote in the U.S. Yea, that sounds intense right so "my old friend" shouldn't be allowed, right? Apparently not.
I'm sure, just as I defend my use of slurs in chat, Sparvico and others would defend their use of "my old friend" by saying "ERHUEHA EA MY SHIT TALK IS SO BAD EEE E my old friend MEANS A BUNDLE OF STICK IEHFIUAHTUIOAEHIUH IM BALD EIHT UATHOA". Well you can't "Substitute[ing] a slur with a synonym that's not outright offensive" can you?
Racial slurs against whites and hispanics are never enforced. I literally created a character called "honkyhuntertron9000" and it was approved by Sparvico. For fuck's sake no person honestly finds Honky offensive. I don't. But the rules stand, regardless of how we find it unoffensive. UTHER: "NOT OK: Intentionally using racial slurs, like friend, chink, cracker, jap and so on, towards any player, admin, between friends, towards groups of people". I find the use of "friend" as offensive as I find the use of "my old friend" or "honky" or "gook". None of them offend me, personally, yet all are still considered offensive, YET they are not treated equally (dictionary civil rights here??). 9% of the US population (according to a quick google) identifies as LGBTQ+, while 14% are Black-Americans. If another 6 percent of Americans identified as homosexual, would "my old friend" begin to carry the same mute-earning weight in chat that "friend" currently does?
The only slurs I ever seen warrant a mute have been "friend" and "chink".
Like Jesus, Sparvico, stop acting as if you are the robot admin just doing your job. You pick and choose when and where you wish to intervene. If "friend" and Sugar's direct, personal attacks at Pistachio (or any player sending personal attacks against ANY other player, for that matter) warrant mutes, then why the fuck does the use of "my old friend", or "cracker", (which someone did use "cracker" as a pejorative this night) or telling EU players that they aren't wanted in NA servers and need to leave (which also happened tonight. EU players are a -group of people-) not require equal consistent enforcement?
Enforce the rules thoroughly and to the letter, or don't enforce them at all. Stop pretending you are doing the mod justice and defending yourself with quotes from official Chat Guidelines while you contradict yourself and the rules everyday in-game by ignoring any minor offense just because it doesn't carry an offensive weight of your liking.
You are beautiful and I love you. The current admins make me thankful I am not one anymore because I personally think banning people over a word is fucking stupid. This is a small tight knit community and the only time a ban should be enforced is when someone is actively disrupting the game and making it hard/impossible for others to play. The current age of admins is why I respecced to horse archer. The current admins are all friends and I hope my account gets muted for this. What cRPG does not need is over zealous admins enforcing every rule to the T. The mod will slowly shrink and die if we cant have our shenanigans. People who disrupt the game are the real ones who deserve to be punished, not those who say a "naughty word" in chat. It is 2017, if you get offended by the word friend then you should probably just stay off the internet.
whats it like knowing that youre a bald fuck that noone loves and you should kill yourself. u dont have any power in person cause ur fucking bald and noone cares or loves bald people so u make this ur full time career u bald shiny headed fuck
And the one who bans for usage of words is a lil pussi, mute function is a thing, do the admins forget? :=)until that mute function is persistent and doesn't unmute the player you muted when you or they log off it really isn't a solution.
The only reason people even use the word as often as they do is because they know it ruffles the feathers of admins. Trust me if you stopped punishing people for it, it would not be said as often as it is now. You would see it every now and then and maybe a burst of people saying it bc someone else did it for the sake of it being funny because the admins got so butthurt about it at one point, but the only reason its being spammed the way it is now is because of the admins lmaovisitors can't see pics , please register or login
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No he needs to say it online otherwise there's no point. Otherwise how can he be a big brave boy saying naughty words if nobody knows he's doing it?
I have sugar on snap chat"... therefore I should be able to spam "friend" in chat".
He is on the football team with literally all black kids
Often he sends me snaps of him saying friend to them and them not giving a fuck
But of course the white social justice warrior admins have to defend the fee fees of some imaginary cabal of blacks.
As for me most of my friends are black and I never say friend because I am a social justice warrior
"... therefore I should be able to spam "friend" in chat".
Dis SHIT GETTING TO POLITICAL AUTISTIC FUK DIS IM OUT!
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it's not my fault you have no hair so everything gets to your head much more
Hardy this isn't funny at all kill yourself
But ON THE REAL definitely a ban for this is the dumbest shit. Honestly the mod is barely alive and banning people for these shenanigans is ridiculous. By all means if you shitty "admins" want to kill the mod then you're doing a great job and you should start banning everyone that says anything that offends anyone because hey its 2017 we're better than this :) Jesus yall are worse than fucking liberals
why did this man not get banned for this wtf im really about to ban thread this man(click to show/hide)
I wonder why you don't think people should get banned for this hmmmm
P.S. Like my new script?
I used to be a proponent of all admins should do is mute people for this crap not ban but they seem to want to keep pushing the envelope and poke stingrays with sticks aka Steve Irwin style (rip) so I say ban them for a week mute them on the forum and hope they don't return.sorry where in this thread did it ask who the fuck you think you are you're just mad because I shit on you every round and talk shit while you wait to respawn
Personally I just mute people but the issue is that 99% of the time players like Assington just leave the server and rejoin to avoid the mute which makes it pointless
sorry where in this thread did it ask who the fuck you think you are you're just mad because I shit on you every round and talk shit while you wait to respawnSuch an internet tuff guy. Who are you even because honestly I dont ever remember caring about dying to you or anyone else and its kind of funny and even more pathetic that you think you are somebody because you are good at vidya game.
Such an internet tuff guy. Who are you even because honestly I dont ever remember caring about dying to you or anyone else and its kind of funny and even more pathetic that you think you are somebody because you are good at vidya game.sorry who are you you think you're someone because you're a fucking friend I bet you're fucking bald too
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I wonder why you don't think people should get banned for this hmmmm
P.S. Like the fruits of my new script?
Yeah, there is a lot of drama over something that will be fixed by mutes that stick. Only thing that sticks now is a ban so that is all that is available. New mutes should be implemented ASAP.
dang sparvico gonna need some +3 rogaine after this
My point was solely to heskey who said that sugar only says friend on an internet game and not in real life :)Nah, it wasn't quite what his point was either, he was referring to my post in which I suggested an offline chat game for spamming, to which he replied that spamming it offline would be pointless and he needs to do it online, as in - communicating with real people - for them to know how badass he is. I don't think he implied the standart "internet tough guy".
I find this stuff to be as dumb as the next guy
However
I feel that maybe priorities should be placed on, you know, maybe like fixing the key unique element of crpg, STRATEGUS, which is constantly ringing a death knell by showing that the main feature of a mod has gone unrepaired and unminded for like a year, rather than designing new ways to try and punish players...
But what do I know
words
Wow, you people are really suffering because suddenly you're being held accountable.
Stop saying friend on the servers, that's about it. Why must you say it here? It's against the rules, I'm pretty sure it's not crucial to the enjoyment of the game to any of you, and if it is - please find a different game.
If you're a tough internet kid, then live with the consequences of saying a banned word and getting banned for it - stop acting like a whiny child whenever something that was obviously going to happen, happens. No one feels pity for you, you're not some internet hero for opposing the admins - you'll just get banned and muted if necessary to help you calm down and think of your actions. We try to act like humans and talk to you about your actions, but once we see there's no hope for you, you'll just get banned at the first infraction.
Assington (http://forum.melee.org/the-chamber-of-tears/message-2-a-certain-somebody-thats-middle-aged-and-bald/msg1254081/#msg1254081), I've already explained why those specific words are the ones banned and heavily frowned upon and not the others, find the original thread and few pages in it there's my long post. I stated a reason why racial slurs are especially frowned upon in my rule change, I acknowledge it may make me a hypocrite but I have my reasons.
Mind you, this post is not to start a debate. I'm just reminding you of the rules that exist. Those are not new rules, they have existed before, and have now been made more specific. Acting loud and whining whenever you get muted for not abiding is not going to profit you in any way whatsoever, I'm sorry.
Honestly thought this thread was about me, Guess I dodged a bullet here haha
You are beautiful and I love you. The current admins make me thankful I am not one anymore because I personally think banning people over a word is fucking stupid. This is a small tight knit community and the only time a ban should be enforced is when someone is actively disrupting the game and making it hard/impossible for others to play. The current age of admins is why I respecced to horse archer. The current admins are all friends and I hope my account gets muted for this. What cRPG does not need is over zealous admins enforcing every rule to the T. The mod will slowly shrink and die if we cant have our shenanigans. People who disrupt the game are the real ones who deserve to be punished, not those who say a "naughty word" in chat. It is 2017, if you get offended by the word friend then you should probably just stay off the internet.
I have sugar on snap chat
He is on the football team with literally all black kids
Often he sends me snaps of him saying friend to them and them not giving a fuck
But of course the white social justice warrior admins have to defend the fee fees of some imaginary cabal of blacks.
As for me most of my friends are black and I never say friend because I am a social justice warrior
Nah saying friend in chat is stupid. Most games have a mute function for that. I've gotten admin messages from WoW for saying "grow some balls" and having it be sexual harassment.
My point was solely to heskey who said that sugar only says friend on an internet game and not in real life :)
I'm with you lads on this even if we are in the minority. Which we are. Words can hurt. I've been called a sand friend enough times to know this!
words
i don't even need to read this thread to know that it is the cause of my recently detected cancer
gay words
well with sandersson shitting on me like that i resend everything i have said up to this point. unban me and i will call off my public instigators
Acre will be banned for saying Deus Vult and talking about slayingMuslimssaracens.
The ONLY thing that should deserve a kick/ban is intentional TKing tbh that pisses everyone off.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if a player was like 'Oh shit I can't maliciously TK cos then I'd get banned'. So instead, does something that looks really similar to a malicious TK, like they keep teamhitting their friend in the spawn (but their friend is in on the joke so it's ok) and their friend as part of the joke keeps posting in admin chat 'ffs, this guy keeps teamhitting me, please ban him' (but it's a joke, not a real teamkill).
It would be amazing, cos the guy has found such a clever loophole by doing something that looks really similar to maliciously teamkilling a player in spawn, but isn't quite maliciously teamkilling a player in spawn. Like, the admin wouldn't be able to do anything about it at all, because the guy figuring out that loophole was so clever. Everyone would find it really funny, and he wouldn't get even remotely banned for it.
You're adorable.
Will you cry just as much when you get banned for that? Or will it be so funny all the admins will be like 'Wow, genius man. He's found the perfect loophole, guess we need to let this go'.
Not to stir more shit in this autistic thread, but there is an obvious bias in admins.
Example: 20 minutes ago, Colonys22: "lets kill these friends and their gay strats." While living and having an admin on his team, Pistachio (same clan), so following the round I ask, obviously trying to bait some sort of answer. "Is it okay to say friend w/o getting muted like Colonys?"
Instant mute. Sparvico is fine when it comes to this, but other things like this need to be addressed since the rules have been changed so "drastically" for some people.
Not to stir more shit in this autistic thread, but there is an obvious bias in admins.
Example: 20 minutes ago, Colonys22: "lets kill these friends and their gay strats." While living and having an admin on his team, Pistachio (same clan), so following the round I ask, obviously trying to bait some sort of answer. "Is it okay to say friend w/o getting muted like Colonys?"
Instant mute. Sparvico is fine when it comes to this, but other things like this need to be addressed since the rules have been changed so "drastically" for some people.
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Right, okay, but it's their mod and ultimately in the end you aren't able to do that. I wish I was able to say anything I want, but I can't. Do I hate it? Hell yeah I do. I only brought up what I said because it was unjust and needed to be brought up. Personally I'd just type whatever you want to say in admin chat to express your rage and whatnot, this'll allow you to say what you want and others to be offended. I'm sure you'll reply with people need to have thicker skin, which I do as well and multiple others, but in the end, the lower admins enforce the rules. They don't make them.What if its a copper pot?
Don't be the pot that calls the kettle black and in this case don't be the pot that calls the kettle a friend.
What if its a copper pot?
Your second ban thread just further incriminates you by highlighting that, at the time in 2014 (3 YEARS AGO), you had an extensive list of bans already for "intentional tk'ing and chat abuse, among other things" ~ Canary. I think you just shot yourself in the foot.
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Right, okay, but it's their mod and ultimately in the end you aren't able to do that. I wish I was able to say anything I want, but I can't. Do I hate it? Hell yeah I do. I only brought up what I said because it was unjust and needed to be brought up. Personally I'd just type whatever you want to say in admin chat to express your rage and whatnot, this'll allow you to say what you want and others to not be offended and the admins will see what you say and no one else. I'm sure you'll reply with people need to have thicker skin, which I do as well and multiple others, but in the end, the lower admins enforce the rules. They don't make them.
Don't be the pot that calls the kettle black and in this case don't be the pot that calls the kettle a friend.
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I didn't say you got banned for saying friend, your supposition that Sparvico is out to get you is unfounded, he's kicked me from the server before and he's even poll banned me before he was admin. He's doing what he thinks is right for the mod is all.
nig·gard·ly
ˈniɡərdlē/
adjective
1.
not generous; stingy.
His name isn't racist is the thing. Yours did allude to being friend hunter with N 1 66 3 12 - This obviously says friend in l33t speak.(click to show/hide)
Don't be the pot that calls the kettle black and in this case don't be the pot that calls the kettle a friend.
thryn, you are permanently banned because i do not like you.
the pleasure is mine,
kadeth
Thryn, you know I don't put up with that shit so if I see those people I'll tell them to name change. If they don't, I'll dust off the ol' banhammer.
nah man i dont even care, i just call all the admins bad b/c my memes are stale. there's only like 2 admins who i think shit the bed(click to show/hide)
I didn't either, my point was to prove that you've been banned for being an idiot tons of times and you still act like an idiot. I thought it was pretty clear and then you replied. This may be shocking but that response just further proved that, shockingly, you are still an idiot 3 fucking years later. To your ps, no shit. The donkey crew made the rules and can't be here to administer them. What do they Do? Your superior intellect should deduce that they assign admins.
Thryn, you know I don't put up with that shit so if I see those people I'll tell them to name change. If they don't, I'll dust off the ol' banhammer.
Honestly, with all your bans prior to this Bensai/Assington you should be thankful you haven't been permabanned...yet. Furthermore, is making a thread every time you get banned for knowingly breaking the rules your norm? There are admin feedback threads where you can state your case to the admin that banned you. You're so smart though, you probably knew that. I guess your mouse accidentally clicked the wrong tab or something.
Also, I don't play favorites with anyone. I hate you all equally.
to say that niggardly old bastard isn't a clever way to skirt around the rules is laughable, and A_Dam_Nagger also needs a name change
if someone were to go around calling people niggards they would pretty well be banned because the hypocritical af admins decide in their banhappy circlejerk what is and is not offensive
dont make me continue this shit
mate you have not been following the context here
this thread is a completely separate instance from n166312huntertron900. that whole thread was just to autistically show that i can get away with honkyhunter but not n166312hunter
this thread has to do with spookyghost_ tag. as much as Niggardly means stingy, ungenerous, spookyghost means a paranormal being formed of white ectoplasm who scares people. If that definition of spooky ghost can allude to centuries of hatred and lynching then what can't
FOR ALL THOSE THAT CAN'T READ, THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE FACT THAT ADMINS SHOW A BIAS TOWARDS AND AGAINST CERTAIN PEOPLE, BENSAI IS COMPLAINING BECAUSE THERE WAS A BIAS AGAINST HIM AS OPPOSED TO OTHERS WHO ALSO DID OFFENSIVE THINGS BUT HAD NO ACTION TAKEN AGAINST THEM[/size]
hope that clears things up
Did you try reading the title of this thread or the OP first?
This thread is a joke thread and OP is being treated as a joke accordingly.
If he wanted to be taken seriously he wouldn't make a retarded thread.
I hope that clears things up
im not the OP u fucking retard
i hope that clears things up
ur all fkin gay
hope this clears things up
Nope,
Thread was a simple message to someone that's middle aged and bald.
Message below:
At best you're trying to derail the thread to talk about a ban you or anyone else received. OP doesn't mention a ban anywhere.
i speak for sugar he is my adopted broth3r from india whos autistic nd shit
In addition to sparvico being bald and ugly you should hear his voice in team speak lmao guaranteed dude gets rammed in the asshole
id like to continue this heated autismal argument
fuck you sparvico
fuck you friend
whats it like knowing that youre a bald fuck that noone loves and you should kill yourself. u dont have any power in person cause ur fucking bald and noone cares or loves bald people so u make this ur full time career u bald shiny headed fuck