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Or not. The cRPG detoxification worked well for me, the therapy consisted in low pop + high autism concentration + broken servers/ping for months.
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Nords and Vanguards.
So i've decided to quit Crpg in protest of the latest events which happened here : http://forum.melee.org/game-admin-feedback/(eu)blackbow-feedback-thread/msg1231769/#new (http://forum.melee.org/game-admin-feedback/(eu)blackbow-feedback-thread/msg1231769/#new)
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Quitting C-RPG over something so petty seems a bit stupid to me but hey ho, your decision. Wish you the best Kansuke, hopefully you'll find another game that will drain your life away like C-RPG does <3
I mean...
Not that i'm saying we should or anything, but since it's the end of days we could always arrange a TS event where someone lets us all know when a certain admin is in EU1, then we all join and start spamming 'friend' in chat. The outcomes would be:
1 - Admin in question bans us all. We all kick off on forums and they get removed (cos precedent)
2 - Admin in question bans 1 but not all of us. We all kick off about admin bias on forum and make a strong case for them to be removed.
3 - Admin in question does not ban any of us. We get one of our mates who was there but not spamming 'friend' to kick off on forum about how an admin was present in the server and took no action.
I'm fairly confident that we'd only be dealing with scenarios 1-2 though, the notion of this particular admin missing a rare golden opportunity to ban me is inconceivable. At this point (i am advocating nothing), an argument could be made that for players who are sick of this shit and wouldnt be playing anyway, a greater good could be served if such players effectively 'suicide-bomb' EU1 one night to receive permabans in large numbers then use this to remove the troublesome admin. For the benefit of remaining players.
Looks like I will be reinstalling cRPG.
Make it reality ;_;
What's your point?
It'd be a great reason for people to start coming back to this mod.
Installed warband yesterday. Good jesus, our lord and saviour, I'm shit at this this game right now. But native still going strong - 150 peps on siege, 40+ on DM, 2 battle servers, Ludos and that's only EU side. Maybe I will play it a bit, after a year and a half long break it was quite entertaining.
...but I literally can't think of anyone worse than the people who've already been admins.#LeshmaforAdmin2016
I haven't looked, but assumed there was more to vanilla warband than... that
it's lean times for internet horse game players
You know Blackbow has to be complete and utter shite if even me and Xant agree on something
I'll enjoy quoting this when your admin is taken from you and you cry all over forums about quitting the game as a result
#LeshmaforAdmin2016Implying Leshman would be worse than the likes of Lilith and Blackbow? Ikarus pls
What happened? I'm never up to date with most things that happen in c-rpg cuz I don't participate in events, I don't do strat and I rarely read forum posts... can someone enlight me?
HAHAHAHAH someone actually made Blackbow an admin. Jesus fucking Christ, this mod has had, hands down, the worst admins I have ever seen. Glad to see that this proud tradition is being upheld. I would joke about them making someone even worse an admin next, but I literally can't think of anyone worse than the people who've already been admins.
Blackbow the only black cRPG admin on European soil, went full Leshma/ODINVALHAAALA and called another player's family chocolate chip cookie collaborators. Player who is longtime veteran of this mod without any previous history of bad behavior, decided it is time to call it a day and stop playing. Wise decision on his behalf.
Counterpoint: Michael was an admin.Idk, game seems alive enough to me, but keep living in your delusions, I'm sure the game is definitely dead ;)
Not surprised Heskey is the one leading the charge to unadmin someone he personally never liked. Like the hypocrite bundle of sticks gives a shit about bad admins, lol. This guy supported the worst shit NA admins endlessly. Funny how now, all of a sudden, admins not being up to snuff is the reason cRPG went down the shitter. At least Blackbow usually pushed back against the krems type retards who really killed the game. The dozen retard "admins" who promoted and encouraged trollish cunts have always been much more deserving of having adminship removed.
This and especially the feedback thread have been most retarded things I've read for some time. Thank you for dropping my non-existant IQ below zero.
The thing people dont understand about all this is that Blackbow is THE voice of wisdom : but the first admin who has the balls to fucking change something is considered as a bitch?
Great... leeching, delaying, not contributing to the team effort, teamwounding, insulting, chat spam, voicechat spam, all that bullshit was pretty much happening constantly, now there is finally an admin doing something against all of those things and u don't like it !
Pffff, sounds like a whole load of Nazi collaborator bullshit to me if you dont think that Blackbow is saving the cRPG community from the blatant inaction and ineptitude of the rest of the admin team. And i dare you to find a single instance of Blackbow ever suggesting that he thinks the rest of the admins arent doing their jobs and that he's the only sane man in a world gone mad.
*cough cough* http://forum.melee.org/game-admin-feedback/(eu)blackbow-feedback-thread/msg1232574/#msg1232574
He only likes to pretend the game is dead because he quit a while ago because of all the shameless brocoding, delaying and trolling on servers.
Note that he quit for these reasons nearly a year after Blackbow became admin and dedicated himself to sorting out the Krems menace, lol. So Blackbow did a pretty good job eh Oberyn? So good that you quit the mod.
cRPG's already dead, i just dont like watching someone who's shit at their job crash and burn. And i dont like seeing an individual in any role shit on their colleagues, especially when said individual is wholly reliant on their goodwill and is at the very bottom of the pecking order. Blackbow's going to lose his admin sooner or later, i'm just trying to accelerate things.
And yes, i like the other admins because they allow people in the server a bit of freedom. If you wanted a linear on-rails combat experience where you run in immediately in a straight line and attack the first thing you see there are other games out there.
And i call bullshit on your first statement. Because Blackbow was nearly always in the server and you still somehow managed to find the game intolerable. This is just you sugar-coating it and putting on rose tinted glasses because he claimed to be the antithesis of that shit you hate. This is part of what makes you an idiot here, politically, and everywhere. Someone just needs to convince you 'We're against that thing you hate' and you'll vehemently follow them in blind faith regardless of what they actually do/dont do. It doesnt matter to you whether or not Blackbow actually made cRPG better for you (you did quit forever whilst he was 'policing' the servers), in principle he's a 'good admin' because he hates Krems. Let's ignore that this thread here is a non-Krems quitting the mod because of Blackbow, you still approve cos Blackbow hates Krems.
Also you seem to throw me into the Krems category a lot. I've never been banned for delaying, leeching, brocoding, voice spam, chat spam, all those other little things that precious Oberyn cannot handle in his little war games. And i've spent a decent amount of my game time in the last year in servers with Blackbow. Just because i dont lose my shit like you when a couple of players (god forbid) decide to mess around slightly, doesnt mean i do it myself.
Really, there's not only one, but multiple multiplayer team-based medieval themed melee games with customizable equipment and stats? Name one. I can name you a dozen games where krems being usual krems would be straight up a bannable offense. I can name you a dozen other games where groups of retards can gather and mess around to their heart's content. cRPG has no alternative though. Maybe the shit trolls can go for one of the many, many choices available to their kind, or is that not convenient for them? Much better to shit up a team-based game with a dwindling population I guess.
I never played the game the way you describe so I have no idea where you got your retarded interpretation of how I think the game should be played. I just had the apparently unreasonable expectation that if people want to play a game they should fucking play it, and if it bores them they can fuck off to skype or TS or a chatroom or to suck on their boyfriend's dick. The whole "just having fun lol" where fun means trolling the rest of the server to the best of your bundle of sticks abilities while giggling with other drunk/drugged deviants on TS only became common when the servers first started dipping hard on population, and the consensus among devs/admins was that it should be tolerated to keep the population healthy (that worked out great, by the way).
And I don't really need some psychic telling me what I think and why. I saw Blackbow deal with trollish cunts over and over and over again. I understand that others may have had bad experiences with him, but personally yes he was one of my favorite admins, because he actually did his fucking job, unlike some other apathetic wankstains I could name. I didn't get brainwashed by some fucking sig, you moronic twat, it's an impression based off of my own anectodal evidence. And wtf do you know about when I quit? Were you there? Was Blackbow? No, the krems retard squad was, and after the 6000th "hilarious" repeat of the usual retarded trolling I realized the fun I had from playing was outweighed by the frustration of dealing with the antics of toddler-level IQ idiots. I'm sure if it was up to Blackbow the server would be even more deserted because he would've banned their asses long ago, but the powers that be, in their ultimate wisdom, have coaxed and encouraged these sorts of "players" with their tolerance. Even then cRPG would probably be dead in either case just cause it's based off such an old and niche game in the first place.
Ah, speak o' the devil, here's one of the dumb cunts. I'm not sure what sort of diseased "mind" (being charitable here) can possibly find trolling the same people on the same server enjoyable over and over and over again, almost in a mechanical way. If the trolling was at least slightly clever and not the same rehashed bullshit every single time it may have been bearable, but the autistic dedication to being unoriginal spergs was really something else. So what are you, a drunk or a stoner? You realize you would be banned outright in literally any other team-based game community for even a quarter of the shit you kremstards consider normal? Of course you do, that's why you're here.
Of course you do, making other people rage was the entire point. You should be proud of almost single handedly killing the mod while shit copied versions of it are going strong. I'm going to go with either a mellow drunk or a stoner, probably stoner.
Yes, can't be held accountable, clearly, there's no unified theme or constant thread throughout the whole of krems clan existence of them being shitty fucking retarded trolls. Maybe your "playstyle" attracted trolls because that's what it was in the first place? But no, it must have become the central gathering clan for pozzed up trolls organically, for some mysterious unquantifiable reason.
Oh well, off to play some Mercenaries in vastly more populated servers with nary a krems cunt on the horizon.
Sounds fun, I might pm our 277 members and ask them if they wanna join up too! :wink:
Lol do it bundle of sticks, I'd love to see you cunts try to pull the same shit there you do in cRPG.
Awesome, another game you can bury by being absolutely relentless twats. Looking forward to it. Do you honestly think the devs are going to mantain the same tolerance for shit trolls in a game they have actual monetary interest in suceeding? That the admins are going to be as lenient with their baby as they were with a free mod in which they owed their "customers" nothing? Should be interesting to see.
Awesome, another game you can bury by being absolutely relentless twats. Looking forward to it. Do you honestly think the devs are going to mantain the same tolerance for shit trolls in a game they have actual monetary interest in suceeding? That the admins are going to be as lenient with their baby as they were with a free mod in which they owed their "customers" nothing? Should be interesting to see.
And yes, i like the other admins because they allow people in the server a bit of freedom. If you wanted a linear on-rails combat experience where you run in immediately in a straight line and attack the first thing you see there are other games out there.
Oh well, off to play some Mercenaries in vastly more populated servers with nary a krems cunt on the horizon.
holy shit I love Oberyn's rage, its a real pleasure to read every single word of his hate speeches, its so full of anger and deathwishes, great stuff
Eh that's fine, I never had a problem with slaughtering krems, just being forced to be in the same team as them. Also they'll have to be smart about it, so clearly out of the reach of the average krems.
Eh that's fine, I never had a problem with slaughtering krems, just being forced to be in the same team as them. Also they'll have to be smart about it, so clearly out of the reach of the average krems.well i never saw Merc stack killing fully new and shiny tryharding Amox stack(in past) but couple of times i saw Kremlits fuck them pretty bad :wink:
Whenever he was in the server those fucking viruses were dealt with, in my experience, so yes, clearly a man of his word. Sadly a single admin can only do so much, especially when so many others are either completely apathetic or virus trolls themselves. Strange how incensed you are about Blackbow's admin boasting. Could it possibly be because you, again, endlessly supported the other sort of half-assed "admins" purely because they tolerated the "playstyle" of the abjectly retarded trolls? No, of course not, you are just so concerned with cRPG's health that it is unbearable for you to have a subpar admin on the team (lol).And how exactly would you know? You don't play C-RPG anymore, so stop talking out of your ass lmfao.
I'm arguing against this daft causality; 'servers are smaller cos Krems are annoying'. Surely Krems are annoying because the servers are smaller, you have fewer people to actually fight and having 2-5 players on your team not assisting is a death sentence.
Let me tell you a secret Oberyn, Krems will maintain its life in okam starting from day 1.
even most hardcore trolls won't find it amusing to just fool aroundyou underestimate my powers
I did stop playing for the most part because of Krems.
Maybe I am not alone with this, and I guess quite a few Krems see that as a success on their part, but they managed to take the fun away from cRPG for me.
My issue with voice chat spam was how it flooded general chat. Loudness wasn't an issue, always playing with lowest volume or completely off.
Like I said in my previous post, we're a lot more involved in actually fighting now, not just building bases at the back of the map and doing nothing, we've not done that in ages, if that was the reason you quit, then come back and try the game again lol, if it was because of the voice spam.. Well... Nothing has changed there. We're always going to be loud
Either way, C-RPG isn't dead, no matter how much you want it to be.
The servers Krems played the least died first.
Krems killed mod by not being in all servers simultaneously to keep them alive!
probably why u were so shit, it's hard playing with sound off
It is. With sound on, however, there is no way I could endure long playing sessions. All those click-clack, ching-chang and horse gallop sounds would drive me crazy.
click-clack, ching-chang
My issue with voice chat spam was how it flooded general chat. Loudness wasn't an issue, always playing with lowest volume or completely off.
Something as simple as a forced small pause beween commands would've helped, although I'm sure the absolute cunts who couldn't spend more than 5 seconds without spamming them would have whined endlessly about opresshun, and still spammed em as much as possible anyways.
So i've decided to quit Crpg in protest of the latest events which happened here : http://forum.melee.org/game-admin-feedback/(eu)blackbow-feedback-thread/msg1231769/#new (http://forum.melee.org/game-admin-feedback/(eu)blackbow-feedback-thread/msg1231769/#new)
I have been playing this game for a little more than 5 years now, I've made many friends and always been loyal to my only clan: SeaRaiders which would then become Nords and Vanguards.
I'll keep alot of good memories with me as it's been a blast to play it in your company.
Many thanks to chadz and his crew for all the funny moments I've spent on this mod.
I hope to play with most of you again in OKaM or Bannerlord when they are released, goodbye my friends
Don't ask for looms, I've got only one and it will go into our armory.
Who are you?
Who are you?
Better question, who are you?
I don't know you, who are you ?
But there is and always has been? Since 2014 atleast when I played actively. If you spammed it too much you wouldn't be able to do it for a while. That's atleast how I remember it.Yes but iirc to activate it you need to use 5 commands in a row, as soon as you wait a few of seconds you don't trigger it, and with the long voice commands you can pretty much spam it
krems still manage to be more retarded on the forum than in game, it's beyond imaginable. the only guy bringing some half-decent counter-argument to oberyn that isn't utter horseshit is heskey, and i don't even get why; he was a cool guy in game, there's no reason (literally there's no reason unless you're being part of that shithole clan) to defend them, no reason and no excuse at all.
If I somehow had credibility with you before this post, then here it all goes.TLDR is too long, make a second one for us Krems with 5 second attention span
Why would I need an excuse to defend them? I've never found it annoying when I spawn, that people are spamming adorable voice commands at each other. It's like the 'Wololo' spam before an Age of Empires game.
I like inquisitive players who push the game limits to the maximum. Usually those are the same players that end up trying new builds, strategies and weapons that nobody else considers using. Building defensive camps for throwers/ranged which include weapon racks for ammo refills, or even having the balls to build a catapult in EU1. I love players like that because they're using features of the game that rarely see use. In many ways, Krems would be the perfect testers for OkaM's overall mechanics and features due to this ceaseless quest to find unusual/broken elements in a multiplayer game. But a lot of people are going to hate players like that because in a 15 vs 15 fight if a handful of players stop to build a catapult then that team is outnumbered on the battlefield and is likely to lose. That would indicate to me that siege weapons are not working as intended in the public servers (duh) and if this were a new game that would be something that requires attention from the developers. But what you gonna do? If catapults were fast and easy to build/use, everyone would use them constantly. But if you straight-up remove them, you're limiting the features of your game.
For some people 'fun' is doing the same thing every time and trying to perfect it (the same build, the same weapons, the same strategy), but for others 'fun' is the constant pursuit of something new, weird, 'broken', strange-looking in the game.
Personally I find the latter far more fun than the former and it's why cRPG engaged me for so long because there is so much variety and they kept adding new features (eg. nudge). I'll make the highest possible STR/PS build because I want to see what happens. I'll use a wooden stick or a tiny hammer and even sometimes toggle 'walk' but i'll still *try* to kill enemies because I want to see if I can. I'll abuse the nudge mechanic where it's cheap and effective to do so.
For people who's only understanding of 'fun' is to do the same thing over and over until they're the best at it, they will never understand the restless desire to find new and weird things to do in game. Equally, people like me who enjoy playing solely to find new and strange things to do struggle to understand how someone can enjoy the monotony of playing 'optimally' within the meta every day for multiple years. The players who give Krems a lot of shit for trying to keep it interesting, there may be a resulting element of 'pay-back' that encourages the voice-spam to continue just sliiiiiiightly longer than it otherwise would have, just to irritate the players who rage about it.
As for brocoding, players on the full range from tryhard to carefree do it every now and then. You'll see 'serious' AmoX guys do it, you'll see any number of players who recognise each other on the battlefield sometimes stop for a hug or hang back slightly in combat. That's the price of having full control over your character's movement in combat. Krems have a very strong 'krems' identity (I'm sure that is in no way driven by a 'fuck krems, you trolls' attitude from others), and part of their desired image/theme/RP is this 'harmless', 'fluffy' persona which really does lend itself to in-game hugs. Again, we may never know how much or how little this would happen if they didn't know it annoyed certain players. That may not even be a factor.
As for delaying. Delaying pisses me off after a round is over. But cRPG players need to get some perspective and take off their rose-tinted glasses if they think delaying is bad in cRPG. I came to cRPG from IG_Battlegrounds server in native and jeeeeeeeeeesus would rounds last for fucking ages. Ranged camper vs cowardly infantry 1 shot from death... Last player running around the town map for ages waiting for a 1 v 1 fight. Pointless 'last stand' in some obscure corner of the map. Even without flags, our rounds are insanely fast and always have been. And if flags worked every time it'd be even faster. If you cant even wait 2 minutes, then the last active gamemode on cRPG really is not for you.
TLDR - we've had it pretty good in cRPG. Fast rounds, and players who all know each other. But if your intention over the last few years of cRPG was to hone your skills doing the same thing every day to become some fearsome angel of death to the server, you've wasted the last few years of your life because everyone in that server knows and potentially likes you too well to take you seriously.
Every game is going to have a mix between 'my weapon was nerfed 1 point of damage, now it's worthless and I need to use the new *best* weapon' and 'my weapon does 0 damage but I like the way it looks so i'll always use this', with most players sitting somewhere in the middle. Anyone at either extreme is going to find the opposite annoying. Krems are more towards the latter half, but they make the game more interesting for me than the other type of player which as far as I'm concerned are just there to bulk out the numbers.
*Edit*- and I've never been able to fathom how Switch can find Krems so annoying in cRPG, but tolerate playing any other online game with me because we play like 'Krems' in most of them. Remember our fat topless unarmed Mexican wrester characters in SWTOR? How we'd keep finding players in the RP server who were looking for immersion and dance our fat sweaty bodies right next to them? Lol
If I somehow had credibility with you before this post, then here it all goes.
Why would I need an excuse to defend them? I've never found it annoying when I spawn, that people are spamming adorable voice commands at each other. It's like the 'Wololo' spam before an Age of Empires game.
no it's not
I like inquisitive players who push the game limits to the maximum. except krems are dragging it to its minumum, i seriously thought it was a joke this one lol Usually those are the same players that end up trying new builds, strategies and weapons that nobody else considers using. Building defensive camps for throwers/ranged which include weapon racks for ammo refills, or even having the balls to build a catapult in EU1. yes, yes ofc. when 15% of the team is waisting time building a catapult (which everyone them included know it's impossibile to do and even if they do it's going to be useless, they're not retards or trolls, no they're pioneers with balls to fight the system and its conformism, how blind we couldn't see that. I love players like that because they're using features of the game that rarely see use. In many ways, Krems would be the perfect testers for OkaM's overall mechanics and features due to this ceaseless quest to find unusual/broken elements in a multiplayer game. But a lot of people are going to hate players like that because in a 15 vs 15 fight if a handful of players stop to build a catapult then that team is outnumbered on the battlefield and is likely to lose. That would indicate to me that siege weapons are not working as intended in the public servers (duh) and if this were a new game that would be something that requires attention from the developers. But what you gonna do? If catapults were fast and easy to build/use, everyone would use them constantly. But if you straight-up remove them, you're limiting the features of your game. i'm still thinking and hoping you're trolling, you can't be serious; i'm going to answer as if you were though, hopefully resulting FUCKING PRANKED BRO because it was a joke all along. the healing tent/catapult/ammo stack features were all thought to be used in a situation of massive fights, which is strategus; and for some time they were used, and rather succesfully, no idea what strats battles are now. they weren't polished, they were and looked clumsy, but they added something to the strats battle. seing them being built in a battle of 15 v 15 that it's going to last at max 6 min it's annoying, it's like seing a retarded kid doing something stupid and expecting it to work, despite it being obvious to us "normal people" (or tryhards) that it's never going to work, except in this case even the brain damaged kids are aware it's not going to work or be useful at all, and that pisses off us conformists who don't see the potential in having an ammo stack at spawn that it's just going to disappear the next round (if they manage to build it at all)
For some people 'fun' is doing the same thing every time and trying to perfect it (the same build, the same weapons, the same strategy), but for others 'fun' is the constant pursuit of something new, weird, 'broken', strange-looking in the game.
Personally I find the latter far more fun than the former and it's why cRPG engaged me for so long because there is so much variety and they kept adding new features (eg. nudge). I'll make the highest possible STR/PS build because I want to see what happens. I'll use a wooden stick or a tiny hammer and even sometimes toggle 'walk' but i'll still *try* to kill enemies because I want to see if I can. I'll abuse the nudge mechanic where it's cheap and effective to do so.
For people who's only understanding of 'fun' is to do the same thing over and over until they're the best at it, they will never understand the restless desire to find new and weird things to do in game. Equally, people like me who enjoy playing solely to find new and strange things to do struggle to understand how someone can enjoy the monotony of playing 'optimally' within the meta every day for multiple years. The players who give Krems a lot of shit for trying to keep it interesting, there may be a resulting element of 'pay-back' that encourages the voice-spam to continue just sliiiiiiightly longer than it otherwise would have, just to irritate the players who rage about it.
you put krems in the second category, but that's the mistake; they belong to a third one, a sort of mixture of those 2: finding a broken mechanic and doing the same shit over and over and over and considering it fun for everyone, it's just teasing, it's annoying, it's fucking retarded. going around with mugs it's fine for the first 2 days, doing it for a year it's not. having a whole team going around with stones and sticks and having them camp the spawn it's fun for 2 hours, still having this is just a condition. same for spamming voices chat commands, brocoding, delaying and all the other shit. if they were done occasionally (as they were before this disease called krems was born) people would accept them, some ban requests here and there and good to go.
As for brocoding, players on the full range from tryhard to carefree do it every now and then sporadically, it was done sporadically and from different players. if between friends someone farts we laugh about it, if the same guy keeps dropping a nuclear bomb every single time we meet in an enclosed space, it loses the fun side and becomes annoying. You'll see 'serious' AmoX guys do it, you'll see any number of players who recognise each other on the battlefield sometimes stop for a hug or hang back slightly in combat. That's the price of having full control over your character's movement in combat. Krems have a very strong 'krems' identity (I'm sure that is in no way driven by a 'fuck krems, you trolls' attitude from others), and part of their desired image/theme/RP is this 'harmless', 'fluffy' persona which really does lend itself to in-game hugs. Again, we may never know how much or how little this would happen if they didn't know it annoyed certain players. That may not even be a factor.
As for delaying. Delaying pisses me off after a round is over. But cRPG players need to get some perspective and take off their rose-tinted glasses if they think delaying is bad in cRPG. I came to cRPG from IG_Battlegrounds server in native and jeeeeeeeeeesus would rounds last for fucking ages. Ranged camper vs cowardly infantry 1 shot from death... Last player running around the town map for ages waiting for a 1 v 1 fight. Pointless 'last stand' in some obscure corner of the map. Even without flags, our rounds are insanely fast and always have been. And if flags worked every time it'd be even faster. If you cant even wait 2 minutes, then the last active gamemode on cRPG really is not for you. sometimes i complain about the safety of milan during the night, but compared to the safety of some village in somalia, we're just off the charts; so what? am i supposed to either not complain or bring the criminal level close to the somalian standars? maybe this is what avant garde krems are doing? making crpg as shit as some native servers to give us the rights to complain and we just misunderstood them?
TLDR - we've had it pretty good in cRPG. Fast rounds, and players who all know each other. But if your intention over the last few years of cRPG was to hone your skills doing the same thing every day to become some fearsome angel of death to the server, you've wasted the last few years of your life because everyone in that server knows and potentially likes you too well to take you seriously.
Every game is going to have a mix between 'my weapon was nerfed 1 point of damage, now it's worthless and I need to use the new *best* weapon' and 'my weapon does 0 damage but I like the way it looks so i'll always use this', with most players sitting somewhere in the middle. Anyone at either extreme is going to find the opposite annoying. Krems are more towards the latter half, but they make the game more interesting for me than the other type of player which as far as I'm concerned are just there to bulk out the numbers.
*Edit*- and I've never been able to fathom how Switch can find Krems so annoying in cRPG, but tolerate playing any other online game with me because we play like 'Krems' in most of them. Remember our fat topless unarmed Mexican wrester characters in SWTOR? How we'd keep finding players in the RP server who were looking for immersion and dance our fat sweaty bodies right next to them? Lol
Mm, imagine if they ruined everyone's immersion by making obese characters called 'KFCBOSS' and 'PIZZACRUST' and ran around dancing all the time in ludicrous outfits. What shit-heads would do that?
What behaviour drove you away?
mad cuz bad
If the Krems behavior spreads to OKaM in whatever way, then I'll ask chadz for a refund or give Panos my key.
Because everyone else in this mod is so enlightened and respectful.
You should know I have also spoken out my resentment towards eg Blackbow. Cause what I have seen from him is proof enough to me, that he is of the same kind.
No Krems has ever been disrespectful to me (unlike the assorted scum at the bottom of the barrel i've clashed with from other clans over the years), but maybe i'm not a dick to them? Cos i'd sure be proud and happy of driving someone away if they were an ass to me.
There are Blackbow supports. Clearly you are not of the same opinion as them.
I stopped counting, but I can asure you that it has been numerous times that they were dicking around on the server. Countless times have I told them to play properly if it's not many people online (If 5 out of 50 are doing fuck all I don't care. But if it is 25% of the team it is different.
Maybe twice out of all those times have they actually started helping the team half assedly. The rest of the times they continued trolling around, bragging about how awesome they are, posting screenshots of them standing around hugging one another in the spawn or whatever they can do to praise their behavior.
As I previously said, doubt they'll even be interested in doing it. But even if they do, scope of that game is different and their "contribution" will not be felt at all.
Much, much bigger problem will be hackers. They'll probably force many of us to stop playing after some time. Unless cmp has some magic under his sleeve to keep hacking in check. I sure hope so.
When the population was high, you could see such trolling only late at night, when player amount decreased below 20 or so. I remember that a lot of special characters played almost solely in that comfortable niche. It was oddly enjoyable at times, if you neednt sleep that day of course.yeah after 11:00PM it was time to switch from tryharding char to troll in pyjama :)
When the population began to decrease, the trolling moved closer to primetime and then became regular, disrupting the usual flow of the game. When it is the norm it stops being cool to a lot of people.
I forgot it so much (@me) that I even explicitly stated it in my post the other day:
The stuff I'm supporting is all the fun stuff in between. Voice commands whilst you're charging the enemy or waiting for them to charge you doesnt hurt anyone, I really cant understand what sort of person you'd have to be to see those as a personal attack against your playstyle even if the voice commands being used lack relevance. A player you know randomly sheathing their weapon as you approach, (what kind of asshole then attacks that player when they're unarmed?). Hugs at spawn, which is only really an issue because the maps are too stupidly big for the current population. Small maps or a large playerbase full of cav take care of that issue on their own. Building siege equipment, another remnant of a bygone age but still very much a feature on the servers that allow it - if we're at a point where we're saying 'No spawning without equipment, also you aren't allowed to use X, Y or Z pieces of equipment' then why do those items even exist?
That's my stance. Like it, hate it, whatever.
The thing is, just because I enjoy spawning and hearing someone spamming 'I need help!' in that shaky watery voice you only get if you glitch yourself standing in a cart, doesn't mean I wont attempt to kill enemies in my own retarded way. The fact I'm on here approving of the people that made this game more enjoyable and far more memorable for me, doesn't change my own personal playstyle (which varies depending on my mood).
many Krems
Seeing that kind of behavior in OKaM by them, no matter how small/big the impact, I won't hesitate to drop it and turn towards other games without ever turning back.No need to worry:
We exorcised the Krems demons out of fin. He seems stable, and is, for all intents and purposes, considered healed.The rest will follow the same fate :wink:
How did they ruin NA1? They never played there
I know you have no issues with NA ping, so i'm not 100% believing that Krems stopped you from playing this game if it was so beloved.
Krems killed the mod.
They killed NA too.
Krems best clan EU/NA
Thank you for proving my point.
Your point is what? That Krems killed this mod? That all our players are useless pricks? Or that you and all these other anti Krems guys do nothing except cry and moan?
Did any anti Krems players actually try anything creative to combat Krems? No. Isn't killing you sufficient?Isn't that innovative enough for you?
Did any anti Krems players ask to speak properly (without abuse) with any leaders of Krems to discuss their concerns? No. ALthough I am not aware of any "official" approach, there have been enough polite attempts as well (although the hate prevails)
Did any anti Krems players just come to forum to create multiple posts/threads insulting, attacking and spreading vile hate on Krems? Fuck Yea!
We have been called the worst names imaginable, been compared to cancer and all sorts of shit (Even guys came onto our own thread to spread hate, not to mention this very thread, a completely unrelated goodbye thread hijacked by anti Krems guys to bash Krems wtf) So tell me why the hell should we have any empathy for you guys or be bothered that you had to stop playing or you are upset, when for the last 3 years all most of you guys have done is throw shit on us?
I agree that the hate towards Krems is often exaggerated and that each Krems is hated by many players regardless of what he/she has done.
Nevertheless, you reverse the causality concerning the "krems-hate" in your last paragraph. First your actions came, then the hate followed. Later new dynamics followed, true. Still, some of you started and didn't feel the urge to finish this by stopping (could have proven that you are better than some brainless haters - and again, I don't mean all trolls and krems with this statement). Besides, you should consider that your actions on EU1 might bother players that do not constantly throw shit at you as well. Even though most people hate on krems by far not everybody does. Acting a bit differently for the sake of those people might have been a good idea.
Oh and btw, you basically just admitted that what you do is about annoying others and thus, you confirm the prejudices many have about the typical krems.
Well, I kinda disliked new Krems. Mostly because of newmy old friend factor. Can't dislike poster above, he's an oldmy old friend and probably the most serious Krems player. Dan, you never were particularly skilled at Krems doings :PHaha cheers, yea I have to agree with you about the new/old Krems thing and I have to blame myself and the other Krems leaders for that. Back in the day our recruitment process was a lot better and we only accepted guys who we knew, had seen and who could play seriously just as well as messing around, now we just accept anyone which is why a lot of our members are brains dead retards (yes I'm admitting it :P)
Also, there are non Krems who are better Krems than any Krems. Like Phase on his alts, you just can't reach that level of retarded...
However with regards to Krems in okam I can give my word, in fact us Krems leaders were just talking about it last night, that we will not be accepting just random trolls into our clan. We will have a proper recruitment process were recruits will have to prove themselves first. We will still be fun, but in a cool way that hopefully everyone can enjoy.
Better still, re-create Inglorious Basterds with Phil (and me if I'm here :mrgreen:). Never forget.
Better still, re-create Inglorious Basterds with Phil (and me if I'm here :mrgreen:). Never forget.
Your point is what? That Krems killed this mod? That all our players are useless pricks? Or that you and all these other anti Krems guys do nothing except cry and moan?
Did any anti Krems players actually try anything creative to combat Krems? No.
Did any anti Krems players ask to speak properly (without abuse) with any leaders of Krems to discuss their concerns? No.
Did any anti Krems players just come to forum to create multiple posts/threads insulting, attacking and spreading vile hate on Krems? Fuck Yea!
We have been called the worst names imaginable, been compared to cancer and all sorts of shit (Even guys came onto our own thread to spread hate, not to mention this very thread, a completely unrelated goodbye thread hijacked by anti Krems guys to bash Krems wtf) So tell me why the hell should we have any empathy for you guys or be bothered that you had to stop playing or you are upset, when for the last 3 years all most of you guys have done is throw shit on us?
As I said before, I do not include every member of Krems in the following. Some of them are genuinely nice and respectful.
My point that you have just proven once again. That Krems take pride in their toxic behavior and ridicule anyone that does not get joy out of it.
So in order to stop someone's shitty behavior one needs to come up with something equally annoying? What kind of logic is that?
Multiple times have I told people ingame (Both leader and member) that the trolling is harming the team and they should keep it to a minimum.
It basically almost never had any effect.
Did any of you actually take any kind request to stop trolling to heart? No.
Do not expect any kind of respect of people you do not respect yourself.
I can only speak for myself, but as I said before, I have asked countless times to refrain from trolling. I was lucky to get a response at all, though regularly that response was the trolling getting worse.
At some point I stopped asking and started telling them to stop trolling. Also little to no reaction.
So now you pretentious piece of shit are trying to tell me that I showed no respect whatsoever, so I do not deserve any myself?
Grow the fuck up and stop generalising.
There are many people who did ask, even said the word "please". But even to you it must be obvious that the trolling never stopped. Not even on low population.
Can't even remember how their clan was originally named. Farmers something? Phil, Dan, Berenger, Tomas. Pretty much second trollish clan after LLJK (Goons). Later took serious theme (Chavland) and after that turned into ING.
Edit. Found it: Annoying Bandits. Dunno why farmers came to my mind.
If the years have proven anything it is that kind words lead to absolutely no avail.
So blame yourself and your persistent behavior instead of people who throw all sorts of insults among other things towards you now.
So continue living in your delusional world. Where the world revolves around you.
However with regards to Krems in okam I can give my word, in fact us Krems leaders were just talking about it last night, that we will not be accepting just random trolls into our clan. We will have a proper recruitment process were recruits will have to prove themselves first. We will still be fun, but in a cool way that hopefully everyone can enjoy.
OKAM give us a chance to start off fresh and we'll take "back to the roots" approach.
To tell you frankly, I hope Micah and Shanks will resurrect SoA instead of going Krems "one clan, million members" route. It would be better for the game and for them. You can always create Krems Alliance which will consist of smaller clans. But would definitely prefer to see some old clans rather than what cRPG turned into during last four years of its existence aka trifecta of clans on EU1. Mercs, Nerdmen/Byzantium and Krems should go back to their roots, become more intimate and manageable clans. They grew mostly because game mechanics forced them to.
just please not OINK!!!! :mrgreen:
People just blame Krems, but think banner balance is what drove casuals away.
It was banner balance, lack of patching, bad maps, Krems and broken launcher.
I also kinda feel like balance based on class type would've been a good idea.
Tell that to World of Warcraft, Counter-Strike, TF2, Call of Duty, FIFA and all the other sports games, Battlefield 3 is 5 years old and basically the same as BF4, AOE2 still gets thousands of players a day as does Warband itself. Napoleonic Wars still has plenty of players, Mercenaries does as well.
I don't think age is so much of an issue here as changes making people leave and stopping new people from playing.
And as I've said. Remove the grind.
I didn't say Krems killed the mod but there was a time when they killed it for me. I barely played it for 4 months or so because every time I joined they were fucking about. It's not so bad at the moment as I've said but they stopped me from playing for a time, that's for sure and I highly doubt I was the only one.
It played a part but definitely was not the only factor.
Without banner balance, the clan-oriented people were being driven away for the same reasons.
To say that "admins" being in some of the most popular clans are guilty of a game feature is all kind of stupid :P
There was tons and tons of clans that rivaled with each others, it was actually one of the major reasons to play the game for a time: to have a clan that can dominate.
I think you are missing the main reason, the game is 6 fucking years old! To play the same game, same maps, same players, same style, same game objectives, same everything for that length of time without getting bored in the end is pretty much impossible for most people.
Solely and exclusively Krems, clearly.visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Like 2 months until OKAM Early Access, and hopefully Early Access/Beta of Bannerlord this Autumn/Fall/whatever. Was going to play the other night, but saw the character I wanted to play had recently retired. Why the fuck would I want to grind in a game like this when games like OKAM and Bannerlord are so close?