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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sparvico on April 13, 2016, 08:13:46 am

Title: The current state of things.
Post by: Sparvico on April 13, 2016, 08:13:46 am
At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square.
Title: Re: The current state of things.
Post by: Switchtense on April 13, 2016, 08:34:11 am
Fuck me, is this autistic shit starting again?
Title: Re: The current state of things.
Post by: Mirliva on April 13, 2016, 11:40:20 am
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Post by: Ikarus on April 13, 2016, 12:03:07 pm
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Post by: Asheram on April 13, 2016, 05:38:22 pm
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Post by: Templar_Ratigan on April 13, 2016, 05:50:27 pm
Title: Re: The current state of things.
Post by: Conquisitore on April 13, 2016, 07:15:05 pm
Quote from: Templar_Ratigan on April 13, 2016, 05:50:27 pm

So we should play crpg because its not rational to play it ?
Title: Re: The current state of things.
Post by: Malaclypse on April 13, 2016, 07:33:54 pm
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snap I haven't thought about Duckman: Private Dick/Family Man in years
Title: Re: The current state of things.
Post by: Prpavi on April 13, 2016, 10:38:12 pm
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Title: Re: The current state of things.
Post by: Switchtense on April 13, 2016, 11:11:02 pm
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FUUUUCK
Title: Re: The current state of things.
Post by: Yuang on April 14, 2016, 03:21:53 am
Originated from ancient Chinese literature.——Confucius

源于《论语·为政》,"吾十有五，而志于学。三十而立。四十而不惑。五十而知天命。六十而耳顺。七十而从心所欲，不逾矩。"

Confucius said: "fifteen years old, I determined to university; thirty years to understand the etiquette, the words and deeds were appropriate; forty years old can become a scholar, not confused; at fifty, I knew the fundamental law of things; sixty know everything; 70 years old can follow one's inclinations and does not exceed the testimonies."
Title: Re: The current state of things.
Post by: Switchtense on April 14, 2016, 08:16:12 am
Quote from: Yuang on April 14, 2016, 03:21:53 am
Originated from ancient Chinese literature.——Confucius

源于《论语·为政》,"吾十有五，而志于学。三十而立。四十而不惑。五十而知天命。六十而耳顺。七十而从心所欲，不逾矩。"

Confucius said: "fifteen years old, I determined to university; thirty years to understand the etiquette, the words and deeds were appropriate; forty years old can become a scholar, not confused; at fifty, I knew the fundamental law of things; sixty know everything; 70 years old can follow one's inclinations and does not exceed the testimonies."

I usually hate people spamming that shit on forums. But I just cannot be mad at you. +1 for you!
Title: Re: The current state of things.
Post by: karasu on April 14, 2016, 10:58:00 am
http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/04/what-its-like-to-wake-up-from-autism-after-magnetic-stimulation.html
Title: Re: The current state of things.
Post by: the real god emperor on April 14, 2016, 11:14:35 am
Title: Re: The current state of things.
Post by: Switchtense on April 14, 2016, 11:20:49 am
Quote from: karasu on April 14, 2016, 10:58:00 am
http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/04/what-its-like-to-wake-up-from-autism-after-magnetic-stimulation.html

That article is fucking autistic.


I guess so am I for reading the whole thing.
Title: Re: The current state of things.
Post by: Bobthehero on April 14, 2016, 12:45:34 pm
Hi,

its signed,

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Title: Re: The current state of things.
Post by: Templar_Ratigan on April 14, 2016, 08:06:50 pm
Quote from: Conquisitore on April 13, 2016, 07:15:05 pm
So we should play crpg because its not rational to play it ?

Well I would suggest reading his book A Master and his Emissary to understand the more intricate and complicated point/argument he is making. The video is just a short overview.


Besides which, the wisdom of understanding that there is a limitation to rationality does not mean that we are to throw out rationality altogether.

The real point I was making is to do with how this is about "the current state of things" which could be applied to crpg by context of forum and a larger context of western existence ala Mcgilchrist's argument.

But in the crpg context we look at the state of things (a dwindling player base with a, generally speaking, consistently negative perspective on the future of the module they 'enjoy') and in this context we see how the left-brain bias leads people to substitute the holistic wisdom that could have been applied to avoid this current state, in favour of an incredibly technical and specific focus on what is most efficient combined with personal bias of pride and ego at competition.

A classic example is: Person dies in CRPG, person's ego is wounded, person creates excuse to alleviate a broader truth that their self-perception of skill is perhaps not as great as they believe it to be, person maybe dies again, anger ensues and people are at their most stupid when angry, so now even more engaged in "YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!" behaviour. The natural pattern perception of the human brain is now distorted by this anger and a specific (left brain) point is used in mechanical terms in order to justify the anger eg: "X weapon or style of play is overpowered, thus needs nerf". Forward the denotive language of the left brain, now instead of styles of play we have classes. We now have a target and the trigger; clearly defined by categorical language.

The perfect excuse is created.

Instead of looking at what made the game so entertaining in it's earlier incarnations (looking beyond just the fact it was a new module in a fresh-ish game) we slowly narrowed our focus to various culprits which were specifically ironed out in the name of balance. Unfortunately we lost the more creative and outlier elements in the process and that nature of 'ultimately lifeless' is exactly what we are left with.

Let me state for clarity that balance is important, a narrowing of options and freedoms is bound to happen within the context of a game in order to remove abusive elements. But taking a step back, it's not hard to identify that too many of those who get angry are similar to the example outlined above, too many who refuse/d or are/were incapable of perceiving the position of others, especially those who have play styles that are different to their own and often might be the foil to their particular angle.

Not to mention that perfect balance is never entirely attainable. Right-brained wisdom helps us realise this and realise that human nature and it's aspirations to perfection are decidedly imperfect, along with everything we create and do.
Title: Re: The current state of things.
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on April 16, 2016, 10:11:15 pm
At 15 I had the will to fap, at not far off 30 I still have the will to fap.
Title: Re: The current state of things.
Post by: Novamere on April 16, 2016, 10:59:05 pm
Wanted to play some CRPG on the weekend so on Saturday at 2pm PST and 5pm EST i went to jump on to find this

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That sucks come on people I need you to play so I dont have to play on fucking EU with 180 ping..........
Title: Re: The current state of things.
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on April 16, 2016, 11:32:56 pm
Quote from: Switchtense on April 13, 2016, 08:34:11 am
Fuck me, is this autistic shit starting again?

"starting again" implies that it had stopped at one point