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Title: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: GRANDMOM on March 11, 2016, 10:05:02 am


Strat 6.5 starting - the northern clanwars

Nebun has declared that north of this line should not be infested be free off UIF forces and so I give thanks to Nebun for this very kind offer and am now looking forward to playing strat on a smaller scale without gigantic blocks - thanks Nebun!



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All none UIF should move north of this line drawn by Nebun - north of it will be a little playground
for those outside the UIF. Create new factions, break old big factions have small wars, do diplomacy,
backstabb people, attack caravans, RP bandits, make forum flamewars and play strategus the way it was meant to be played.

So leave ur faction, break free from your chains (insert Gospel here) - if you own a village great! If you own a castle with troops in it - even better you are a lord of your lands as strat 6.5 starts.

I am leaving the Iron fist and starting a new faction when I figured out what I want to do - thanks nebun for being such a good sport!  :D

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Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Latvian on March 11, 2016, 10:27:20 am
thats really cool but kinda sucks for trading since not many options what to do
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: GRANDMOM on March 11, 2016, 10:30:51 am
thats really cool but kinda sucks for trading since not many options what to do

I guess we could ask all mighty Nebin for trading certificates south of the border? Or he can put some customs at the border where you have to pay per good you transport :)
Or you take a chance to steal S/D south of the border - with the risk of getting caught be the Russian Police  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Latvian on March 11, 2016, 10:32:29 am
I guess we could ask all mighty Nebin for trading certificates south of the border? Or he can put some customs at the border where you have to pay per good you transport :)
Or you take a chance to steal S/D south of the border - with the risk of getting caught be the Russian Police  :mrgreen:
everything is pretty much more fun than current state :D  we could roleplay shit like armed smuggler caravans which uif could harass
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: GRANDMOM on March 11, 2016, 10:36:32 am
everything is pretty much more fun than current state :D  we could roleplay shit like armed smuggler caravans which uif could harass

Nice idea - I might need your services shortly, no time to waste :)
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Latvian on March 11, 2016, 10:41:50 am
ohh finally something different than suck up to uif so they dont wipe you or join anti uif cuz simply nothing  else to do.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: the real god emperor on March 11, 2016, 10:56:44 am
We shall declare Jihad on anyone who attempts to form a Mega Alliance, anyone that plays without roleplaying.

I will announce a new faction soon.

Let us play Strategus the way it is meant to be.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: hellou on March 11, 2016, 11:34:35 am
This can only work if no faction take help (mercenaries, silver, troops, s/d) from uif.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Alimalia on March 11, 2016, 12:06:48 pm
Yeah, nice Idea! Great work Nebun and Granny! But i hope, that we can make all together some battles, with roster support on both sides! Like when we have no roster support than, some of the Druzina come to us and the same of the other side.... that we can still have some xp from the big battles... i think it would be the best what we can do!
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Krave on March 11, 2016, 12:33:07 pm
It's cool, I hope north will become home for smaller factions
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Larvae on March 11, 2016, 12:57:02 pm
This is just fail as its not true^^
talked already to vovka and hetman on their ts,stop to fuck each other
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2016, 01:09:11 pm
Could an uif representative please tell me how long we have to move north of this border? Just so we have some time to re-locate before we get attacked.

Thanks in advance :D
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Larvae on March 11, 2016, 01:10:55 pm
its still fail
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2016, 01:57:20 pm
its still fail
Can't be worse than anything else done this strat...
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Larvae on March 11, 2016, 02:25:29 pm
it can^, if friends attack friends,just dont care anymore as u said it over and over again and stop negative rate my posts just because im right^^
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: GRANDMOM on March 11, 2016, 02:31:09 pm
Im sure ur right Larvae, I havent made a deal with Nebun and I havent talked ot them   :mrgreen:
- I just copied the map in his post









Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: the real god emperor on March 11, 2016, 02:48:27 pm
Spoke to Nebun today, he said they don't care anymore. So we might have ourselves a deal, but I don't know though :D
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Butan on March 11, 2016, 02:49:39 pm
Lets pretend we do have one! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Larvae on March 11, 2016, 02:50:01 pm
Im sure ur right Larvae, I havent made a deal with Nebun and I havent talked ot them   :mrgreen:
- I just copied the map in his post

but for which reason?we just destroy this way our own troops and relations,we cancel the mega block,which wasnt that usefull but still,now UIF just lean back,laugh at us even more then before how we do their work,they will keep attacking us and we will be totally destroyed.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2016, 02:56:17 pm
it can^, if friends attack friends,just dont care anymore as u said it over and over again and stop negative rate my posts just because im right^^
Well if you wanna fight uif go at it, I have had enough. So please go south of the border and let us who wants to have fun have the northern part
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Kamirane on March 11, 2016, 03:05:55 pm
muhahaha or we sneak into NA and leave EU as Polish-Russian Strat. We would just repeat history... Europeans come to America.... settle there.... and start plundering and stuff :P
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Arthur_ on March 11, 2016, 03:10:04 pm
The anti UIF just needs a great leader faction. Like vanguards. And not some turks. Turks are bad. Except Suleyman, he was a great man.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2016, 03:11:14 pm
The anti UIF just needs a great leader faction. Like vanguards. And not some turks. Turks are bad. Except Suleyman, he was a great man.
No what anti-uif needs is to not exist
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Arthur_ on March 11, 2016, 03:13:37 pm
I can support anti UIF with 3 accounts.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Alimalia on March 11, 2016, 03:16:26 pm
Wow!!! Only Wow! What the hell is wrong with you? We shouldn´t exist? Wow! This is really nice, the next time, we let the UIF just take all, and dont play anymore, because, what makes sens, when we only have such allies? Go and play in the darkness Arn, no one wants someone like you as an allie!
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Nebun on March 11, 2016, 03:28:50 pm
This is just fail as its not true^^
talked already to vovka and hetman on their ts,stop to fuck each other

at list someone didn't lose his mind :D
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Nebun on March 11, 2016, 03:41:16 pm
IF YOU GETTING RAPED, JUST RELAX, BECAUSE AT SOME POINT RAPIST WILL GET BORED!
- Anti UIF philosophy

Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Seroth on March 11, 2016, 03:42:36 pm
This is bad idea. Trade will be hard if not impossible, cause no space. UIF  after they take everything under the line will go afk or even attack the north. Also they won't apply to any of the battles in north just because they won't give a fuck => it means small battles = no fun and will get boring soon
You are giving up like cowards. Its sad that nothing can be done now, since you won't come to your battles.

P.S.
Maybe stupid idea but if UIF wouldn't spawn rape, cap flags or use any sneaky strategy it would be funnier to play? This way even with shittier gear the ANTI-UIF has, they could kill some of the UIF, but its up to UIF.

Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Rebelyell on March 11, 2016, 03:43:46 pm
Pff
I am disappointed.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Nebun on March 11, 2016, 03:51:55 pm
This is bad idea. Trade will be hard if not impossible, cause no space. UIF  after they take everything under the line will go afk or even attack the north. Also they won't apply to any of the battles in north just because they won't give a fuck => it means small battles = no fun and will get boring soon
You are giving up like cowards. Its sad that nothing can be done now, since you won't come to your battles.

P.S.
Maybe stupid idea but if UIF wouldn't spawn rape, cap flags or use any sneaky strategy it would be funnier to play? This way even with shittier gear the ANTI-UIF has, they could kill some of the UIF, but its up to UIF.

No point to play this way at all. Strategy is interesting only when u try to outsmart you enemies. To have basic battles is like XP battles, we see no point in them.
Also our enemies have far more equipped armies x2-3 more then us, we have to compensate with spawn rapes or good KD.
Obviously we didn't expect that spawn rape would start so soon in yesterdays battle.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Sir_Frank on March 11, 2016, 03:53:51 pm
It works, you my old friends all quit really quickly after getting bored. I've seen it happen every round I've taken part in. It's just too bad that most of the time by the time you've all quit you've already made most of the other players have quit too.


The current 'Anti UIF' philosophy is more like:
'Let's talk big and do exactly what we do every strategus where the end result is that we make the Russian bots get really excited, join in their 100s and carebear up vs everyone else to stop them playing the way they want.'
Same as Kapikulu last round, same as Polanie this round. Shit factions that want to play trade simulator and do fuck-all on the map because if anyone attacks them, big poppa UIF will gank the guy trying to fight a faction of the same time.

You're trash, you've only got numbers on your side and a fucked-up mentality. I'll enjoy watching EU Strat 6 finally start in a couple of months after you my old friends have all quit again.

you are the reason uif wins every round cuz you sellout to NA !!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Rebelyell on March 11, 2016, 03:55:21 pm
Well after that Crpg will be dead in less than month with 20 man primetime.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2016, 04:03:10 pm
No point to play this way at all. Strategy is interesting only when u try to outsmart you enemies. To have basic battles is like XP battles, we see no point in them.
Also our enemies have far more equipped armies x2-3 more then us, we have to compensate with spawn rapes or good KD.
Obviously we didn't expect that spawn rape would start so soon in yesterdays battle.
I feel the same way, I hate exp battles I want real figthts with tactics and shit as that is the only thing that makes strat fun. But I do not enjoy these battles either just because of the simple reason that you are much better then "us" and I give you all credits for it, you are doing great. But I won't keep on fighting in these fights as there is no point, the battles are not fun any more and you have already won. You are better on the map, on the battles and you are actually better then most of the anti-uif at forum drama with some recent quality posts.

Now just please let us be and if not here you have my arse I bend over freely take it if you want it
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: BlindGuy on March 11, 2016, 04:03:40 pm
Pathetic. The OP is like reading how a woman thanks her rapist for stopping. Balls: none. /thread
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Nebun on March 11, 2016, 04:03:47 pm
It works, you my old friends all quit really quickly after getting bored. I've seen it happen every round I've taken part in. It's just too bad that most of the time by the time you've all quit you've already made most of the other players have quit too.


The current 'Anti UIF' philosophy is more like:
'Let's talk big and do exactly what we do every strategus where the end result is that we make the Russian bots get really excited, join in their 100s and carebear up vs everyone else to stop them playing the way they want.'
Same as Kapikulu last round, same as Polanie this round. Shit factions that want to play trade simulator and do fuck-all on the map because if anyone attacks them, big poppa UIF will gank the guy trying to fight a faction of the same time.

You're trash, you've only got numbers on your side and a fucked-up mentality. I'll enjoy watching EU Strat 6 finally start in a couple of months after you my old friends have all quit again.

Anti uif had numbers this time, they just failed a bit with organisation/trade/cooperation, at list they fight. And u coward shit just run off to NA.
And not every strat was like that. In first strat we was fighting almost from day1 against way bigger alliances and blocks, and there was no fear, morale issues or QQ on our side.

+ AntiUif thought they could win, especially at start, some i spoke to recognised issues and mistakes.
+ We didn't think we going to win, after we counted how much ppl in enemy factions, how much troops they got from their keys etc. We even had plan B to get in some castle and sit there defending till the last tickets :)

+ Anti Uif used spies and disinformation, poorly but used. Its new level for them :)
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2016, 04:04:50 pm
NA is great, different things sometimes happen on the map compared to previous rounds. More than I can say for EU.

Also, every major faction in NA is roleplaying in at least some form.

And in NA only a handful of players have the type of mentality where they just want to win at any cost, by joining the largest alliance and making themselves impossible to attack. Fortunately the few players in NA that think like that are nearly-universally hated and have very little power on the map. If an NA faction somehow dominated the entire Strategus map, they would break up and start fighting each other, not just camp all fiefs and fuck up Strategus for everyone else till the playerbase goes fully inactive.
I would really like to play on na problem is the battle times and the ping, but maybe after my crusade/jihad against kilff is done I will pay na a visit
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Sir_Frank on March 11, 2016, 04:05:39 pm
NA is great, different things sometimes happen on the map compared to previous rounds. More than I can say for EU.

Also, every major faction in NA is roleplaying in at least some form.

And in NA only a handful of players have the type of mentality where they just want to win at any cost, by joining the largest alliance and making themselves impossible to attack. Fortunately the few players in NA that think like that are nearly-universally hated and have very little power on the map. If an NA faction somehow dominated the entire Strategus map, they would break up and start fighting each other, not just camp all fiefs and fuck up Strategus for everyone else till the playerbase goes fully inactive.

:o this sounds like heaven how does one go to this promised lands?
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Rebelyell on March 11, 2016, 04:06:57 pm
I should never retreat from desert but I still had hope in that fight, now I see I should sit there and bleed UIF as much I can.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2016, 04:07:13 pm
:o this sounds like heaven how does one go to this promised lands?
Head east to and when you reach the horizon keep on walking
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Arthur_ on March 11, 2016, 04:07:21 pm
If the anti UIF leaders would have just a little bit of balls and humor like Nebun ,strat would be safe. Get organised and get some roster together.  The difference is that Russians actually play the game, while you others are just forum warriors.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2016, 04:08:55 pm
If the anti UIF leaders would have just a little bit of balls and humor like Nebun ,strat would be safe. Get organised and get some roster together.  The difference is that Russians actually play the game, while you others are just forum warriors.
No, you go fight them and see how fun it is
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Sir_Frank on March 11, 2016, 04:10:17 pm
Head east to and when you reach the horizon keep on walking
will father heskey be there to guide my hand into balanced battles :o

The reason anti-uif sucked is because we didn't get tav
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Guray on March 11, 2016, 04:10:32 pm
It works, you my old friends all quit really quickly after getting bored. I've seen it happen every round I've taken part in. It's just too bad that most of the time by the time you've all quit you've already made most of the other players have quit too.


The current 'Anti UIF' philosophy is more like:
'Let's talk big and do exactly what we do every strategus where the end result is that we make the Russian bots get really excited, join in their 100s and carebear up vs everyone else to stop them playing the way they want.'
Same as Kapikulu last round, same as Polanie this round. Shit factions that want to play trade simulator and do fuck-all on the map because if anyone attacks them, big poppa UIF will gank the guy trying to fight a faction of the same time.

You're trash, you've only got numbers on your side and a fucked-up mentality. I'll enjoy watching EU Strat 6 finally start in a couple of months after you my old friends have all quit again.

Non UIF factions should get their shit together and learn to play strategus if they want to win. There is no point to tell that "omg you have too much players!(Which we had at the beginning of strat too but then everybody quit because we lost some wars) "

I sadly witnessed anti UIF play style . They are just running around with no tactics. The most tactic they can do is make a shield wall and charge at enemy . After that people get dragged by enemy and spread out so much that they get taken out 1 by 1 . In one of the siege battles  they were throwing ladders too short . all at the same time . it was a good laughter tbh. Everybody playing 2h heroes . Because you know roleplay.

Me for example I respecced to archer at the beginning of strat because it was smart thing to do. Then everybody started complaining about how we all turned to archers..

Well someone wrote that UIF doing sneaky tactics such as taking flags. It proves how much non UIF factions can not actually keep coordinated.

I am not trying to insult somebody .These are my observations. Please do not get offensed people.Rather try to actually improve your gameplay .Maybe you will have chance.

Few examples : http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=618


This battle in particular was a mess . They had better gear . Same amount of people . More tickets. No tactic. We were holding the hill and they were rushing us (from the left , right , middle  so unorganized) and getting pewpewd. In the ts we were like "why are they not pushing to the flags.  "
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=449
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Heibai on March 11, 2016, 04:11:15 pm
It's like Nilfgaard leaving the Northern Kingdoms and letting them do their own tiny wars.  :lol:
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2016, 04:11:28 pm
will father heskey be there to guide my hand into balanced battles :o

The reason anti-uif sucked is because we didn't get tav
Father Heskey and Uncle Kehs will show you the light! AMEN!
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2016, 04:13:29 pm
Non UIF factions should get their shit together and learn to play strategus if they want to win. There is no point to tell that "omg you have too much players!(Which we had at the beginning of strat too but then everybody quit because we lost some wars) "

I sadly witnessed anti UIF play style . They are just running around with no tactics. The most tactic they can do is make a shield wall and charge at enemy . After that people get dragged by enemy and spread out so much that they get taken out 1 by 1 . In one of the siege battles  they were throwing ladders too short . all at the same time . it was a good laughter tbh. Everybody playing 2h heroes . Because you know roleplay.

Me for example I respecced to archer at the beginning of strat because it was smart thing to do. Then everybody started complaining about how we all turned to archers..

Well someone wrote that UIF doing sneaky tactics such as taking flags. It proves how much non UIF factions can not actually keep coordinated.

I am not trying to insult somebody .These are my observations. Please do not get offensed people.Rather try to actually improve your gameplay .Maybe you will have chance.

Few examples : http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=618
This battle in particular was a mess . They had better gear . Same amount of people . More tickets. No tactic. We were holding the hill and they were rushing us (from the left , right , middle  so unorganized) and getting pewpewd. In the ts we were like "why are they not pushing to the flags.  "
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=449
Or what if "anti-uif" don't fight uif, then uif can't win. GENIUS!!!!
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Guray on March 11, 2016, 04:14:29 pm
Or what if "anti-uif" don't fight uif, then uif can't win. GENIUS!!!!
sounds legit
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Mr.K. on March 11, 2016, 04:15:13 pm
+ AntiUif thought they could win, especially at start, some i spoke to recognised issues and mistakes.

We know and that's the worst part. But that was like four weeks ago. Now our rosters are gone as expected, which means we cannot fight even with decent gear. We weren't able to fix the economy because some clans on our side don't agree with math or are too disorganized to fix stuff even when they do.

Few examples : http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=618

This battle in particular was a mess . They had better gear . Same amount of people . More tickets. No tactic. We were holding the hill and they were rushing us (from the left , right , middle  so unorganized) and getting pewpewd. In the ts we were like "why are they not pushing to the flags.  "
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=449

First one we couldn't build forward spawn due to construction sites not showing up because of some sort of bug with the ranks. We still managed to build a FS with sites that you guys wasted from the city. The second one, we did make a mistake in the tactics for sure and we talked about it a lot afterwards. You did however have a stronger roster for that one as well, like you've had for the last few weeks. Your players are just better than ours so it's really hard to compete with that.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Seroth on March 11, 2016, 04:15:36 pm
No point to play this way at all. Strategy is interesting only when u try to outsmart you enemies. To have basic battles is like XP battles, we see no point in them.
Also our enemies have far more equipped armies x2-3 more then us, we have to compensate with spawn rapes or good KD.
Obviously we didn't expect that spawn rape would start so soon in yesterdays battle.
Yes i agree that outsmarting enemy is necessary, like the famous DRO battle in this strat, this was awesome, but im talking about situation when its not about outsmarting but bruteforcing. Like yesterday 46 vs 36 while you have tincan armor vs medium armor. You just charged without much of strategy, built Spawn point and win easily.

If you gave the people chance to fight back, they would feel better, e. g. let them fight fairly for 30/40 mins , then just charge take flags down or spawn rape. IT would be easy victory for you + people would have fun both enemies and your allies( who doesn't want 3:1 K:D, and enemies who would be able to go 1:1  or maybe better if they are Atze or some1 like that)

To sum up battle would take 40 mins not 20(still short) , people would have opportunity to fight( not get crushed) and use some of the troops and eq they had, so it wouldn't be a disaster for them => everyone is happy
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2016, 04:24:57 pm
will father heskey be there to guide my hand into balanced battles :o

The reason anti-uif sucked is because we didn't get tav
Btw have anyone ever told you about the prayers that are held before and after battles. It is magical
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Arthur_ on March 11, 2016, 04:25:43 pm
Also. The UIF is attacking lots of Al fiefs.. and there are like 5 defenders showing up. Why? Just apply for the fucking town and show up. Fight them. They will take the castle. But there will be more such battles. More opportunities to kill some of them. Even the Germans lost in ww2, with more troops and better equip.  So why would you give up now? Why would you let them win so easily? Just go and fight them even with your bare hands if you have to... They may take your lives.. but .. They will never take your freedom!
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Guray on March 11, 2016, 04:27:21 pm
Yes i agree that outsmarting enemy is necessary, like the famous DRO battle in this strat, this was awesome, but im talking about situation when its not about outsmarting but bruteforcing. Like yesterday 46 vs 36 while you have tincan armor vs medium armor. You just charged without much of strategy, built Spawn point and win easily.

If you gave the people chance to fight back, they would feel better, e. g. let them fight fairly for 30/40 mins , then just charge take flags down or spawn rape. IT would be easy victory for you + people would have fun both enemies and your allies( who doesn't want 3:1 K:D, and enemies who would be able to go 1:1  or maybe better if they are Atze or some1 like that)

To sum up battle would take 40 mins not 20(still short) , people would have opportunity to fight( not get crushed) and use some of the troops and eq they had, so it wouldn't be a disaster for them => everyone is happy

Sometimes we do not really have time . Like we have to go out in 10 mins or something else . So we have to rush the battle a little bit.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2016, 04:28:07 pm
Also. The UIF is attacking lots of Al fiefs.. and there are like 5 defenders showing up. Why? Just apply for the fucking town and show up. Fight them. They will take the castle. But there will be more such battles. More opportunities to kill some of them. Even the Germans lost in ww2, with more troops and better equip.  So why would you give up now? Why would you let them win so easily? Just go and fight them even with your bare hands if you have to... They may take your lives.. but .. They will never take your freedom!
Yes more troops... *cough*soviet*cough*

None wants to fight in the ai fiefs cause there is not point, the gear is so shit you can't do anything, the fifes got fucking shortbows!!!
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Heibai on March 11, 2016, 04:29:34 pm
Yes i agree that outsmarting enemy is necessary, like the famous DRO battle in this strat, this was awesome, but im talking about situation when its not about outsmarting but bruteforcing. Like yesterday 46 vs 36 while you have tincan armor vs medium armor. You just charged without much of strategy, built Spawn point and win easily.

If you gave the people chance to fight back, they would feel better, e. g. let them fight fairly for 30/40 mins , then just charge take flags down or spawn rape. IT would be easy victory for you + people would have fun both enemies and your allies( who doesn't want 3:1 K:D, and enemies who would be able to go 1:1  or maybe better if they are Atze or some1 like that)

To sum up battle would take 40 mins not 20(still short) , people would have opportunity to fight( not get crushed) and use some of the troops and eq they had, so it wouldn't be a disaster for them => everyone is happy

Remembers me when I was a child playing games like Age of Empires. Instead of stomping the enemy, I just built up stuff and harassed the enemies with small numbers of troops.  :D

And I agree, that would be much more fun.. for both sides I guess.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Arthur_ on March 11, 2016, 04:31:32 pm
Yes more troops... *cough*soviet*cough*

None wants to fight in the ai fiefs cause there is not point, the gear is so shit you can't do anything, the fifes got fucking shortbows!!!

like gear fucking matters that much. Lots of countries fought for their freedom with pitchforks and tablespoons
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: the real god emperor on March 11, 2016, 04:32:21 pm
We would win this Strat if;

+ Templars didn't get wiped so easy and stopped showing up in rosters, same as Eques.
+ people sent the armies they promised.
+ We merged with Hobos earlier and make a big organized faction
+ people with 32472364 rounds of Strat experience didn't cancel battles lose troops go afk and shit.
+ people didn't stack 20k S&D in their fiefs and threaten everyone not to take it.
+ we had better players overall.

Other than that, we deceived ourselves every battle, saying we did good, in reality we never did good except first few battles, lack of commanders, spam of orders in TS made me mute myself more than a few times. When we realised that it was the middle of the Strat, yet it still kept being an issue.

We didn't lose this Strat on the map, actually I've seen a few good maneuvers done by our allies. We lost this Strat in the battlefield, like everyone of them.

NA is really superior to EU in Strategus. Roleplay factions, battles over fun, no tryharding at all. We might learn a couple of things from them. Acre tries to form a Mega Alliance with Gobblins (basically Kapikulu here) and they got a shittons of flame.Why? Because it kills the fun.

We now plan to take a castle and attack whoever we see, because FUCK alliances.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2016, 04:34:41 pm
like gear fucking matters that much. Lots of countries fought for their freedom with pitchforks and tablespoons
But it is not F.U.N

Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Seroth on March 11, 2016, 04:35:13 pm
like gear fucking matters that much. Lots of countries fought for their freedom with pitchforks and tablespoons
Arthur is right somewhat, also you can loot their gear after you kill a few of them, but to kill a few you need a bunch, which you don't have cause you don't play
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Nebun on March 11, 2016, 04:36:27 pm
Yes i agree that outsmarting enemy is necessary, like the famous DRO battle in this strat, this was awesome, but im talking about situation when its not about outsmarting but bruteforcing. Like yesterday 46 vs 36 while you have tincan armor vs medium armor. You just charged without much of strategy, built Spawn point and win easily.

If you gave the people chance to fight back, they would feel better, e. g. let them fight fairly for 30/40 mins , then just charge take flags down or spawn rape. IT would be easy victory for you + people would have fun both enemies and your allies( who doesn't want 3:1 K:D, and enemies who would be able to go 1:1  or maybe better if they are Atze or some1 like that)

To sum up battle would take 40 mins not 20(still short) , people would have opportunity to fight( not get crushed) and use some of the troops and eq they had, so it wouldn't be a disaster for them => everyone is happy

I understand how it would be better for them.
But from strategic point of view when u have to counter 20k army with 6k army and u buying a little bit of plate to win with amazing KD u don't think about your enemies feelings.
I understand they get upset, but usually time and some trolling brings them back.

anti uif equipped armies outnumber us by much, so they have lots of ppl producing tickets and just not coming to battles. I can't call cowards those who doesn't want to play when they always outnumbered by 15 in roster, its logical, but can easily call cowards those who stopped coming to battles and anti uif end up with less mercs.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Arthur_ on March 11, 2016, 04:39:08 pm
But it is not F.U.N


Ah, now i understand you. So now the fights will be like UIF vs FUN.. are you really expecting to fight the UIF and having fun at the same time? Dont think so mate. You need brute force and strenght to kill a bear.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Guray on March 11, 2016, 04:39:50 pm
We might learn a couple of things from them. Acre tries to form a Mega Alliance with Gobblins (basically Kapikulu here) and they got a shittons of flame.Why? Because it kills the fun.

First of all lets not bring the "Kapikulu Joined UIF because they wanted to win." It is incorrect. We were one of the few clans who resisted UIF, besides some awful fails.Also we had a greater reason to join the UIF than that. I am not going to explain here all what happened in the past. So do not bring that here . Besides , We are like 7-8(only 2-3 of us playing crpg actively) people now who is in the UIF just because they are our friends and we are a community now. So your argument on Kapikulu is invalid.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2016, 04:40:04 pm
Ah, now i understand you. So now the fights will be like UIF vs FUN.. are you really expecting to fight the UIF and having fun at the same time? Dont think so mate. You need brute force and strenght to kill a bear.
That's why I wont fight them
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Kalp on March 11, 2016, 04:40:11 pm
None wants to fight in the ai fiefs cause there is not point, the gear is so shit you can't do anything, the fifes got fucking shortbows!!!

And this is one of your biggest problem and mistake. There is point, especially at first phase of strategus.

"Remember Dusturil"
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Arthur_ on March 11, 2016, 04:43:20 pm
That's why I wont fight them

And thats the main reason why you get rekt in every battle.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2016, 04:44:17 pm
And thats the main reason why you get rekt in every battle.
So let's not have any battles
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Seroth on March 11, 2016, 04:56:05 pm
I understand how it would be better for them.
But from strategic point of view when u have to counter 20k army with 6k army and u buying a little bit of plate to win with amazing KD u don't think about your enemies feelings.
I understand they get upset, but usually time and some trolling brings them back.

anti uif equipped armies outnumber us by much, so they have lots of ppl producing tickets and just not coming to battles. I can't call cowards those who doesn't want to play when they always outnumbered by 15 in roster, its logical, but can easily call cowards those who stopped coming to battles and anti uif end up with less mercs.

From what i saw you have enough tickets, probably 70% of what they have (because of their fails and mistakes, and losing significantly in battles)
In fact from now on you will win battles with 2:1(or more?) average K/D, because of your better gear, which you have because of better economy. That means you can afford to lose 500 tickets per battle and kill 1000( cap flag and waste another 500 of enemies).

Nebun, you're right, but you have to remember that their armies are far worse equipped and they can't afford better, cause lack of organisation. It means you still have the upperhand even though you have less troops.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Av3ng3r on March 11, 2016, 04:58:06 pm
And this is one of your biggest problem and mistake. There is point, especially at first phase of strategus.

There is basicly no point anymore. The 100 extra ticks the UIF would lose would make no difference.

And thats the main reason why you get rekt in every battle.

I'm pretty sure I've only ever seen you fight for the UIF side and you have the audacity to criticize people for not wanting to fight them? Personally I get fed up with being in a team with people where the majority doesn't even manage to get a 1:2 kd.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Arthur_ on March 11, 2016, 04:58:36 pm
I'm also trading a lot, and i see lots of anti UIF caravans. And i must say i like they way they do it. 200 troops unarmed with 5k crates, and than you wonder why your economy is trash.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Arthur_ on March 11, 2016, 05:08:31 pm
There is basicly no point anymore. The 100 extra ticks the UIF would lose would make no difference.

100 ticks + 10 battles = 1000 troops, and 1000 well armed troops arent such a joke anymore
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Nebun on March 11, 2016, 05:09:04 pm
From what i saw you have enough tickets, probably 70% of what they have (because of their fails and mistakes, and losing significantly in battles)
In fact from now on you will win battles with 2:1(or more?) average K/D, because of your better gear, which you have because of better economy. That means you can afford to lose 500 tickets per battle and kill 1000( cap flag and waste another 500 of enemies).

Nebun, you're right, but you have to remember that their armies are far worse equipped and they can't afford better, cause lack of organisation. It means you still have the upperhand even though you have less troops.

u probably considering armies in fiefs, but on the map u can't see those. + We don't have so much equipment.
We have to count everything they have all the time and count what we have all the time.
Yes they lost a lot. But as i said we could send only 6k against 20k, and now maybe 1.5 k more we have there. Yes better gear but for better KD. Who stops them from forming 5k good armies instead of 20k, where 10k in shity equip.
Its their choice
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Nebun on March 11, 2016, 05:12:55 pm
i understand that interest to start is low and get ppl fighting is hard, we also had to kick ppl in one channel and ask them to sign up to battles. And when u lose, u have even less desire to show up. I was on losing side only at the beginning of first strat i think, when we lost our only village, but we was driven by anger and desire for vengence and won eventually :) i guess it doesn't work for everyone

NEED NEW GAME chadz!!!!!!
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Heibai on March 11, 2016, 05:13:11 pm
To all (Ex-)Anti-UIF guys and forum-only warriors, I just want you remind you that there are some battles upcoming today.

3 of them are offering free troops and gear, so why not use them efficiently and show up with 50+ people defending the AI fiefs? (Or at least 40, which isn't uncommon when UIF is siding with AI)

Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Zaharist on March 11, 2016, 05:14:33 pm
play strategus the way it was meant to be played

Let us play Strategus the way it is meant to be.

Didn't know that Strat was meant to be RP PVE game.


I thought that it was meant to be a war game, which means that if you get fucked, you fall back, get better and strike back.
I though it was also meant to be a strategic game, which means that you should use your brains and know the mechanics.

I want to remind you the time when UIF appeared at 1st strategus.

It was Strat 1.
Huge Templar blocked wiped small 22nd faction, betrayed by their powerfull allies (Shogunates and Guards if i'm not mistaken) in the south-east. These allies were just scared to face Templars.
Afterwards 22nd started preparing for the revenge. It was mostly a diplomatic thing: to find proper allies who will not be scared to fight against more powerful enemies/ cooperating.

UIF started as an alliance of fiefless 22nd battalion, GO (owning only 1 fief - Gisim) and DRZ owning some fiefs in the north and constantly fighting against Ninja, COCOs (or smth), Shogunates (supported by Mercs) and ATS.
At that time major forces of strat were
Templar block (some of their allies were bigger then the whole UIF)
Shogunates and Guards alliance
Mercenaries

UIF started with attacking Templar's allies. It was easy, cause they were not prepared to fight (being a part of a block that scares everyone). Templars kept fighting against neutral AIs (while their allies were being raped). When Templars had to face UIF they failed a lot with rosters, equipment, knowing strategus mechanics etc.

UIF was the REACTION to huge Templars block. The reaction was the REVENGE. UIF started with 22nd being WIPED OUT within 2 days. Not QQ and RQ which is quite usual for so called antiUIFs.
But it's easy to RQ and blame others for ruining fun. Unfortunately it's impossible to switch to "Easy" mode with reduced damage and stupid AIwhen you play Strat online :(

Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: pogosan on March 11, 2016, 05:22:27 pm
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Zaharist on March 11, 2016, 05:25:39 pm
me neither

I'd say it's the end of the last strat unless europeans gather together to challege UIF, wipe 'em out (they are not that unstoppable as they seem to be) and start playing on the whole map in the way you like
Strat is a competitive game, I believe it's more interesting to play against stronger opponents.
Unfortunately no such opponents for uif now.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Av3ng3r on March 11, 2016, 05:26:58 pm
I don't see how it is fun for UIF to wipe everyone in 2 months after strat starts and then just abandon it because I'm pretty sure it's the last strat ever.

I'd rather have them stay in the desert and just sign up for battles on both sides to balance the rosters. They can still send out armies to fight but no need to take 3/4 of the map and locking them down for non UIF.

Also if the devs gave crpg gold and silver for attendence of battles and upped the EXP a lot more people would play.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: GRANDMOM on March 11, 2016, 05:36:41 pm
I'm also trading a lot, and i see lots of anti UIF caravans. And i must say i like they way they do it. 200 troops unarmed with 5k crates, and than you wonder why your economy is trash.

Has very little to do with anything - check how many caravans that has been attacked and calculate how many goods that has been transported during the same period of time - I would guess that about 5-10% was lost due to attacks on unarmed traders, probably less.

The problems with the economy are:

1. The 200 prosperity "strategy" (check the fiefs)
2. Lack of people having the time or energy to organise several clans trading on a larger scale.

We have a good trade for our little faction (6-8 actives at some point), been selling maximum S/D at 23 gold and around 300-350% every day more or less in the only two selling fiefs we have for well over a month. Maxing out prosperity all the time and setting the right price from the start and not looming shitty gear in every fief. If every clan would have done that right from the start, the antiuif would have moonwalked all over the UIF by now economically.

Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Keshian on March 11, 2016, 05:42:59 pm
Lol, listening to all the guys in DRZ talking about being underdogs.  Or being wiped in strat 1 and then coming back for revenge.

Lol, if the non-existent ant-uif (just all the random clans not in your gay alliance) did come back the way you did in strat 1, they would cheat with multiple cd keys all controlled by a few leaders who would then use those cd keys to set up a long chain of white dots in the map to transfer troops from one side of the map to the other in less than a day or going behind the invisible barriers in cities and castles to attack from unreachable locations or blatantly using wall hacks and highlighted arrows and then bragging about it on the forums.

As for the underdogs, that is like saying the United States is underdog to Africa, because they outnumber them (if they all worked and coordinated together to attack us). 

As Nebun says, they want the challenge that comes with strategy.  This is hilarious - every time they have come up against Americans they got their ass handed to them (only the Western Europeans have done well in the NA side with clever strategy and tactics).  We were wrecking Druzhina with our originally fiefless faction that had less troops and gear in strat 2 to the point they had to cry to grey order to bail them out with 20,000 troops.  We used Grey Order attacking us to get tons of free gear in strat 5 to help us fight much larger factions in NA.  That is using tactics and strategy to fight a larger opponent.

UIF's idea of strategy - ally with majority of map and then just rush headlong at them with more troops, gear, and mercs.  The intelligence level there is pitiful - they completely lack innovation or strategy.  But to be fair without cheating and mass alliances they would have left this game long ago by being repeatedly destroyed by every other EU and NA faction.

I blame the devs - they had multiple opportunities to get rid of their nest of cancerous leeches on the ass of crpg with the repeated cheating they did and the EU community would be twice its current size with a thriving community.  But instead, through dev's laziness and inaction, they condoned cheating, glitching and unsportsmanlike behavior and most of the community has long left, leaving only these hacking piles of shit, these mongrels, to basically talk shit about how they were "underdogs" all while bragging about how cheating is okay because it helps them.


Strat is a competitive game, I believe it's more interesting to play against stronger opponents.
Lol, then don't ally with all the largest factions on map EVERY SINGLE STRATEGUS, you dumb fucks.  Has Grey Order and Druzhina ever fought each other even once?  God damn you guys are mentally retarded.

P.S. All Western Europeans welcome in NA!
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Nebun on March 11, 2016, 06:04:11 pm
the only dumb fuck here is u kesh.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Larvae on March 11, 2016, 06:23:02 pm
I'm also trading a lot, and i see lots of anti UIF caravans. And i must say i like they way they do it. 200 troops unarmed with 5k crates, and than you wonder why your economy is trash.

i also saw unprotected 1 troop UIF trader with 24k goods^^
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Nebun on March 11, 2016, 06:41:41 pm
i also saw unprotected 1 troop UIF trader with 24k goods^^

he is enthusiast, not part of trading plan
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: DKNhz on March 11, 2016, 07:00:43 pm
WHAT-DA-FUCK.

Seriously ? If you can't beat your enemy, then die with honor. Do not yield you buggers.

If Nebun and UIF will wipe us out, so be it. What the fuck is wrong with you guys.

Your mom wishes you were a girl, your father knows that you are a girl.

I salute you Bobby, the only one who actually have balls.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2016, 07:10:07 pm
WHAT-DA-FUCK.

Seriously ? If you can't beat your enemy, then die with honor. Do not yield you buggers.

If Nebun and UIF will wipe us out, so be it. What the fuck is wrong with you guys.

Your mom wishes you were a girl, your father knows that you are a girl.

I salute you Bobby, the only one who actually have balls.
If you didn't read he ran away from uif...
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Nebun on March 11, 2016, 07:51:17 pm
If you didn't read he ran away from uif...

don't argue with eachother, its bad enough already
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Kamirane on March 11, 2016, 09:30:04 pm
damit. i forgot to buy popcorn, so i can enjoy the Weekend QQ about strat. But even without. its still fun
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Zaharist on March 11, 2016, 09:30:57 pm
DRZ talking about being underdogs Or being wiped in strat 1 Do you mean it is not true? :D

non-existent ant-uif (existent) ... they would cheat with multiple cd keys (everyone knows they did have multicdkeys and scripts :D
to set up a long chain of white dots (yes yes yes... UIF is evil exploiting every bug while others are just angles :D old story)

the United States is underdog to Africa (well.. if you think they are sooo bad then may be u r right )

This is hilarious - ... Please, do everyone a favour - teach western europeans :D

ally with majority of map minority
rush at them with more troops, gear, and mercs. less
The intelligence level there is pitiful - Yours? :D. 
But to be fair without cheating and mass alliances Same old song. Evil cheating UIF

I blame the devs It's ok for you to blame everyone else but not urself

Has Grey Order and Druzhina ever fought each other even once Yes
God damn you guys are mentally retarded. So be it :D

Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Rebelyell on March 11, 2016, 10:30:14 pm
We would win this Strat if;

+ Templars didn't get wiped so easy and stopped showing up in rosters, same as Eques.
+ people sent the armies they promised.
+ We merged with Hobos earlier and make a big organized faction
+ people with 32472364 rounds of Strat experience didn't cancel battles lose troops go afk and shit.
+ people didn't stack 20k S&D in their fiefs and threaten everyone not to take it.
+ we had better players overall.

Other than that, we deceived ourselves every battle, saying we did good, in reality we never did good except first few battles, lack of commanders, spam of orders in TS made me mute myself more than a few times. When we realised that it was the middle of the Strat, yet it still kept being an issue.

We didn't lose this Strat on the map, actually I've seen a few good maneuvers done by our allies. We lost this Strat in the battlefield, like everyone of them.

NA is really superior to EU in Strategus. Roleplay factions, battles over fun, no tryharding at all. We might learn a couple of things from them. Acre tries to form a Mega Alliance with Gobblins (basically Kapikulu here) and they got a shittons of flame.Why? Because it kills the fun.

We now plan to take a castle and attack whoever we see, because FUCK alliances.
At that time we lost on desert Templars and UIF killed/lost around 50% of all tickets used in strat(no AI fiefs included). We literally used every piece of eq we had there. If not GO sudden support we actually could hold on there fine. Even after we got wiped we still managed to get our shit thogeder  and send armies with almost all our eq and troops to that War.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Yarl on March 11, 2016, 10:49:30 pm

 Create new factions, break old big factions have small wars, do diplomacy,
backstabb people, attack caravans, RP bandits, make forum flamewars and play strategus the way it was meant to be played.

Step 1. Epic forum RP.
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Step 2. Epic fullroster battles.
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Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Harpag on March 12, 2016, 02:15:21 am
Where the fuck are mercs? I miss you my old friendgits :oops:
also Kesh is not Grey and Bobby for president of antiuif  :o
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 12, 2016, 02:34:37 am
EU finally learning and doing something else.
Title: Re: ******Strat 6.5 starting*******
Post by: Pawiu on March 12, 2016, 03:00:04 am
this topic is such a good lecture for this night
It seems that people don't learn on their own mistakes kek