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Title: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Tactics on March 04, 2016, 02:05:33 am
SO Basically.. I just feel a bit pissed. It seems like no matter whether it is Native, C-RPG, or any other mod there is a real issue with a large group of players using autoblocking software.
It really makes the game frustrating. and the worst part, they literally don't give a crap, because they are fully aware that there are a large group of people who also do it, and the group is so large that taking any action/banning them would result in perhaps 25% or more of the playerbase being taken away. (maybe not that high but it's certainly a large group, at least 10 active players every night when the servers are down to about 20-35 people.)
What im saying is, is it okay to use it then? should I just go ahead and install an autoblocker myself like these aresholes. I hate it so much, it is such a great game but a lackof decent anticheat and/or moderation is ruining the game in my opinion.
seriously. what can we do about it, Do people even care?
(I'm totally expecting a load of people to flame me for this, and tell me how noone hacks, and I am just a bad player etc etc)
but really, If you read this and you are "hacking" stop it. Your being a twat.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Duster on March 04, 2016, 02:15:59 am
Are you talking about NA or EU? How long have you been playing this game? Who, specifically, are you talking about? I haven't seen a legit autoblock in quite awhile on crpg.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: the real god emperor on March 04, 2016, 02:18:06 am
Dude you flamed Otto_Knight for half an hour, we thought you were joking around in the beginning but it turned out that you are legit complaining about him hacking. He isn't. He just tryhards blocks. You WILL know when you see an autoblocker.

/thread
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Varadin on March 04, 2016, 02:21:35 am
You are just bad as everyone here if you ask me.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Tactics on March 04, 2016, 02:27:55 am
I've played this Mod since Strat 2 and played both Warband and original mount and blade on the day they were released.
This auto blocking has got out of hand in terms of how many do it, Honestly, I am a good player, I might be a bit rusty, but some of this shit people are doing is completely and utterly impossible.
and Otto is confirmed to me as auto blocking, Too many times that I have seen him blocking 3-4 people who attack in different directions in quick succession and he blocks them all.
Maybe once, but not multiple times. and he isn't the only one.
I really think that if you truely believe that "Noone is hacking - you are just bad" then either you are dumb A F, or you are also hacking and trying to cover it.
Why not be honest, a lot of you will come here and completely deny it, even though you know you and others are hacking. Just stop being stupid kids, and play properly.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: POOPHAMMER on March 04, 2016, 02:49:19 am
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Malaclypse on March 04, 2016, 03:11:09 am
Some native servers still have the option to use autoblock turned on (remember, it is built into Warband from the git-go)- you have to turn it off manually on those ones. But anyhow, autoblocking (not that I buy into your hilariously outrageous accusation) doesn't help you with positioning, it doesn't help you know when to attack, it doesn't help you chamber, it literally helps you block. And if you really need help blocking in this slow-as-molasses combat speed mod then it's 100% PEBKAC and honestly given the average player skill I don't think it'd even be a huge advantage by any means.

Everyone can just block (though some choose to NBOH, an honorable path to be sure) because it's not hard at all unless you get deked by a microhold or are doing multiple v 1 or have too much sweat or cheeto grease on your sausage fingers. Most people can reliably chamber and block incoming chambers nowadays, which is a lot different from when I started playing Native in 2010 lol, and even from when I started playing cRPG a year or two later.

My advice is yeah, do the needful, download and install an autoblocker. I look forward to the disgruntled unban request thread talking about how "EVERYBODY ELSE FLIPPIN DO IT". Feckin topkek m8s.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Kadeth on March 04, 2016, 03:16:12 am
(I'm totally expecting a load of people to flame me for this, and tell me how noone hacks, and I am just a bad player etc etc

no one hacks and you are just a bad player

I'm sorry, but manual blocking isn't hard, a lot of the players you are complaining about have likely spent thousands of hours playing Warband. It becomes muscle memory after a while and requires minimal effort.

Generally the kind of players that use "hacks" in Warband still suck at the game, because the important things like footwork, timing, convincing feints etc. can't be emulated with cheats.

Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Tactics on March 04, 2016, 03:23:49 am
yeah okay. sure. Stupid kids.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Varadin on March 04, 2016, 03:49:01 am
I've played this Mod since Strat 2 and played both Warband and original mount and blade on the day they were released.
This auto blocking has got out of hand in terms of how many do it, Honestly, I am a good player, I might be a bit rusty, but some of this shit people are doing is completely and utterly impossible.
and Otto is confirmed to me as auto blocking, Too many times that I have seen him blocking 3-4 people who attack in different directions in quick succession and he blocks them all.
Maybe once, but not multiple times. and he isn't the only one.
I really think that if you truely believe that "Noone is hacking - you are just bad" then either you are dumb A F, or you are also hacking and trying to cover it.
Why not be honest, a lot of you will come here and completely deny it, even though you know you and others are hacking. Just stop being stupid kids, and play properly.


I just Lol'd
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Horns on March 04, 2016, 03:55:19 am
With that kind of attitude you deserve this...

Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Rebelyell on March 04, 2016, 04:00:38 am
If I spend my crpg time on anything else useful or productive....
I wasted my best years.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: SugarHoe on March 04, 2016, 04:15:31 am
youre honestly probably just trash so stfu
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: KaleLord on March 04, 2016, 04:28:45 am
Just saw you on NA_1. You are certainly not a "good player."
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: traxits on March 04, 2016, 04:43:45 am
Just saw you on NA_1. You are certainly not a "good player."

damn. kale just called you bad. you must really be trash. i'm so sorry kid i hate to be the one to tell you this but you just have low natural ability.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: StonedSteel on March 04, 2016, 04:50:46 am
Ive not actually run into anyone i thought was autoblocking the entire time ive been playing here.

What you are dealing with is the very end times phenomena smoothrich once warned us about...the age of the nerd!

What you see is pretty much spot on exactly what he prophesied!

Basically game is at a point very new players come and the players that stay keep getting better and better, to such a point, 90% of players these days can block well. shit they better be able to block well, they've only been playing daily for 3-6 yrs straight  :oops:

But thats what separates some pub server...to the hell that is crpg.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Turk_Otto_Knight on March 04, 2016, 04:59:32 am
Autoblock ? Really ?

Belive me dude you are the only one who cant manage to block manually.Blocking doesnt matter in this game anymore its all about timing now.

All the autoblock users even the ones who has in it computer (even if they didnt use) got banned.(Still dont know how that happened  it seems Devs have access to our files)

So stop bitching and learn how to fight properly or go play mario.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Screaming Idiot on March 04, 2016, 05:03:14 am
do we give this bundle of sticks a "mad cuz bad" forum tag like that one other sperg we had a while ago or what
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: DKNhz on March 04, 2016, 08:41:56 am
SO Basically.. I just feel a bit pissed. It seems like no matter whether it is Native, C-RPG, or any other mod there is a real issue with a large group of players using autoblocking software.
It really makes the game frustrating. and the worst part, they literally don't give a crap, because they are fully aware that there are a large group of people who also do it, and the group is so large that taking any action/banning them would result in perhaps 25% or more of the playerbase being taken away. (maybe not that high but it's certainly a large group, at least 10 active players every night when the servers are down to about 20-35 people.)
What im saying is, is it okay to use it then? should I just go ahead and install an autoblocker myself like these aresholes. I hate it so much, it is such a great game but a lackof decent anticheat and/or moderation is ruining the game in my opinion.
seriously. what can we do about it, Do people even care?
(I'm totally expecting a load of people to flame me for this, and tell me how noone hacks, and I am just a bad player etc etc)
but really, If you read this and you are "hacking" stop it. Your being a twat.

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Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Finse on March 04, 2016, 08:50:15 am
I've played this Mod since Strat 2 and played both Warband and original mount and blade on the day they were released.
This auto blocking has got out of hand in terms of how many do it, Honestly, I am a good player, I might be a bit rusty, but some of this shit people are doing is completely and utterly impossible.
and Otto is confirmed to me as auto blocking, Too many times that I have seen him blocking 3-4 people who attack in different directions in quick succession and he blocks them all.
Maybe once, but not multiple times. and he isn't the only one.
I really think that if you truely believe that "Noone is hacking - you are just bad" then either you are dumb A F, or you are also hacking and trying to cover it.
Why not be honest, a lot of you will come here and completely deny it, even though you know you and others are hacking. Just stop being stupid kids, and play properly.

If you've played so long who are You?
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Guray on March 04, 2016, 11:18:06 am
I guess you have only been mostly playing native . Because whenever I go in there I can 1v4 those dudes so ez. Most of them do not know how to block and blame me for autoblocks etc.
I joined a siege server and you would not believe but people were trying to block my over head Great Maul and I was just killing 10 dudes in a row like no big deal.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Golem on March 04, 2016, 11:22:02 am
C'mon, you can't compare Native pub servers with cRPG, I get 100 K/D on Native servers occasionally.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: McKli_PL on March 04, 2016, 11:51:16 am
@Tactic i gave u + coz its phun to read  :)

Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Paul on March 04, 2016, 12:20:12 pm
Guys, just fuck off with your shitty made up terms. It called "shield" and not "autoblock" or whatever.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Butan on March 04, 2016, 12:20:49 pm
If you want to check someone about autoblocking, multi-feint as fast as you can in front of him and if you see a slight delay or a different timing before he changes his blocks to your attack movement, then he does not auto-block.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Alec on March 04, 2016, 01:13:26 pm
There is some auto-blocking software going around on native recently, some Mr_Medic started it I believe. Just adding this.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 04, 2016, 01:28:38 pm
Even if there was an auto block, i have no idea how to notice it in game. Ive certainly never touched it, and if im in the zone i can easily manage to block multiple people in quick successions. Youve gotta think like this, people have been playing this game for 5k hours minimum at this point, blocking multiple hits should not be something strange.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Rico on March 04, 2016, 01:39:39 pm
Everybody embarrasses themselves to the best of their abilities. Well done, OP
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Leshma on March 04, 2016, 02:18:05 pm
There are currently two hot threads discussing hackers in cRPG. It's a good thing there are no new players, because there's no way in hell this mod could avoid being branded as riddled with hackers by newcomers and general gaming community. Being isolated community no one cares about comes with couple advantages, I guess.

@OP
If trolling, gj :wink:

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Re: HUGE Problem with au...

Frankly speaking I expected au to stand for austism or autists, not autoblocking...
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Golem on March 04, 2016, 02:42:59 pm
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Frankly speaking I expected au to stand for austism or autists, not autoblocking...
That click bait
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Asheram on March 04, 2016, 06:50:23 pm
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Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Mallets on March 04, 2016, 07:07:50 pm
** Note: Haven't read a majority of the post.  May be repeating others thoughts!

I've been playing cRPG on-and-off for 4 years now (very sporadically mind you).  I will say... I've always wondered if folks had auto-block hacks.  Or even auto-attack hacks... as they seem know how to swing as soon as you let off block.

With that said... hacks or not... the game is hell of a good time fun, even if I do still suck after 4 years.  So first let me brag on cRPG...

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So why the boner post!  To show love for an amazing game... despite it's flaws... even if hacking is one of them (which I don't think it is).  So let me give me closing thoughts and some suggestions for thread creator, Tactics...

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Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Asheram on March 04, 2016, 07:19:07 pm
If you think the devs are not watching if you use an autoblocker:  http://forum.melee.org/global/autoblocker-unban-thread/
But then again maybe they slacked off since most are working MB:G.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Godfredus on March 04, 2016, 11:34:43 pm
I don't believe that many players would use autoblock software these days, why if you'd get ganked most of times, or headshotted in some of most unexpected ways.

I suspect autoaiming sometimes, though, but I explain headshotting rows to myself by the probable unreachable degree of my old friendness (they call it skill, which it probably really is) of some my old friendchers that headshot too much. So, I mean, there's no way that autoaim could raise to a higher level of being my old friend, if it's already reached, and I think that many years of point&clicking is enough to not have to have an autoaim cheat to land a green lightsaber on a red skull-shaped balloon properly. :lol:

There's plenty of more annoying things around here, I think: macrofeints and especially - macroed swings (especially macroed thrusts), lags and ping, kiting archers, paper horses. And what's for autoblock users, well they do deserve to be someone to point fingers at and laugh at, and no more, in my opinion.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: sF_Guardian on March 05, 2016, 02:55:43 pm
If you concentrate on blocking it ain't hard at all, even multiple people. Since the combat speed is so gimped down you need to be hella slow not to block attacks if you actually try.
Blocking is just a minor aspect of fighting theese days since positioning and knowing when and how to attack and switch your playstyle is much more important considering how many hours most of us have played.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: woody on March 06, 2016, 03:33:17 am
Yes there are autoblocks.

Yes hackers could easily stay ahead of devs who dont give even a little shit anymore.

No dont care. Just play for fun, if someone else does use autoblock its their problem not yours.

And there are a shitload of players who can block nearly everything.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Switchtense on March 06, 2016, 05:53:12 pm
I find it refreshing that after more than a year of not even looking at the forums, literally nothing has changed.
Title: Re: HUGE Problem with autoblocking "hackers"
Post by: Protemus on March 06, 2016, 09:03:39 pm
And there are a shitload of players who can block nearly everything.

I have yet to see someone blocking my arrows, except if you count their own faces AHAHAHAHAHA scrubs get on my level.