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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Peasant_Woman on January 27, 2016, 02:19:04 pm

Title: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Peasant_Woman on January 27, 2016, 02:19:04 pm
Semi-serious. Spend a few rounds on EU1, notice how 60-80% of the players are carrying xbow, bow or throwing weapons?
Xbow as a whole is entirely too easy and it's ridiculous how fast you reload them with your bare hands, bows are too deadly for how fast they fire.
Over-saturation of ranged will be the death of this game.
Bear in mind I played xbow for around 5 generations, so I'm not speaking from inexperience.
Thoughts?

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Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Casul on January 27, 2016, 02:26:24 pm
In comparison to native xbows and bows are already much much slower, I just dont like how ridiculously accurate both are  :?
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Panos_ on January 27, 2016, 02:28:54 pm
dude, do not get me wrong, and do not forget that I hate ranged probably more than you, but what you are suggesting will kill ranged entirely.

I have said it plenty of times before, 1 ranged enemy is not a problem, 2 and more though is a big problem.

The fact that the majority of players are ranged, make it seem like it is the most op classes of the mod, which is a false image.

Just add PD requirement for for xbows, and make bows non sheathable.
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 27, 2016, 02:34:22 pm
Everytime ive heard people say that the majority of the server is ranged, and actually logged in to check, it has always been proven otherwise. On top of that the suggestion is thrash and dumb to smoke.
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Peasant_Woman on January 27, 2016, 02:36:24 pm
On top of that the suggestion is thrash and dumb to smoke.

Read the first two words
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 27, 2016, 02:37:42 pm
Read the first two words

Even if its semi-serious, its enough to know its just qq. You want the class destroyed because you cant play against it.
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Peasant_Woman on January 27, 2016, 02:38:55 pm
Even if its semi-serious, its enough to know its just qq. You want the class destroyed because you cant play against it.

I can play against it, I can also play as it. With +3 xbow and steel bolts.
So can everybody else.  :?
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Schoi on January 27, 2016, 02:41:46 pm
I can play against it, I can also play as it. With +3 xbow and steel bolts.
So can everybody else.  :?

Yes, what's your point then? Why make the thread?
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Peasant_Woman on January 27, 2016, 02:46:09 pm
Yes, what's your point then? Why make the thread?

Point is, why play dedicated melee when you can take xbow as well and be more effective?
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Schoi on January 27, 2016, 02:53:30 pm
Point is, why play dedicated melee when you can take xbow as well and be more effective?

Because shitty shit shitty ass nigkrs that suck my small Asian dick suck at game and need other method to kill people. Also, siege & strat need it. If it gets nerfed more, then you might as well nerf hp on players too.
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: IR_Kuoin on January 27, 2016, 02:54:43 pm
xbows should always have needed powerdraw in order to be used efficiently, after all these years it still doesn't have any requirements outside of wpf to be more accurate :?
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 27, 2016, 02:55:19 pm
Point is, why play dedicated melee when you can take xbow as well and be more effective?

More effective? I highly doubt that. I dont think anything but cav compares to the effectiveness of melee. Unless you are good with crossbows and bad with melee.
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Schoi on January 27, 2016, 03:06:21 pm
In my opinion, bring back native 2h stab, and un-nerf kicks. Then unban clock work killer
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Algarn on January 27, 2016, 04:00:04 pm
Semi-serious. Spend a few rounds on EU1, notice how 60-80% of the players are carrying xbow, bow or throwing weapons?
Xbow as a whole is entirely too easy and it's ridiculous how fast you reload them with your bare hands, bows are too deadly for how fast they fire.
Over-saturation of ranged will be the death of this game.
Bear in mind I played xbow for around 5 generations, so I'm not speaking from inexperience.
Thoughts?

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The only annoying thing with archers/ranged is their ability to kite when I'm on my 33/9 melee alt. They usually need three headshots to kill me (with a rus bow and 6/7 PD), which isn't nothing. If anything, I played something like ... a few thousands of hours as a ranged player, and dozens of hours as a shielder/melee char, usually doing as good or better. Tripling the reload time, and halving the ranged damage, isn't even semi serious at this point, it's a joke imo, considering you're still going to need a lot of arrows, with the maximum value of PD you can get (10) to kill someone fast enough.
Ranged is fine. kthxbai
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Molly on January 27, 2016, 04:02:31 pm
This is a nice change in thread from all the "muslim" threads.

Thank you... and no, I have nothing to say on topic :)
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Algarn on January 27, 2016, 04:03:32 pm
This is a nice change in thread from all the "muslim" threads.

Thank you... and no, I have nothing to say on topic :)

Muslims are responsible for the death of cRPG. Tydeus was an inside man.



You can't escape from that, Molly.
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Molly on January 27, 2016, 04:07:10 pm
Thanks, now you ruined this perfectly fine thread :(
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Algarn on January 27, 2016, 04:09:39 pm
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Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Yeldur on January 27, 2016, 07:36:12 pm
I despise ranged classes yeah but doing anything close to what you just suggested really would make the server an only melee with a bit of throwing server.

Not the right course of action at all.
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: XyNox on February 05, 2016, 09:51:16 pm
I dont understand, I dont recognize this community anymore.

Not so long ago everyone and their mother would have raped that plus-button on the OP since it rants about ranged. Now, not only does the plus-button remain unraped but also there are dedicates melee players bringing up rational arguments against a ranged nerf ?!

I dont know who you are anymore crpg

On a related note, if you grab a 10 PD build with maxed longbow and bodkins you will find out that a lot of people with half decent helmets already survive headshots as well as nakeds survive shots in the torso.
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Rando on February 07, 2016, 12:20:43 am
strong support
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: BlindGuy on February 23, 2016, 07:44:40 am
dude, do not get me wrong, and do not forget that I hate ranged probably more than you, but what you are suggesting will kill ranged entirely.

Nah man, you could make them shoot balloons or even heal enemies when they shoot and the bundle of stickss will still shoot. They do it because they have no spine. It's not their fault: they have never had any parental guidance in their lives. One day hopefully they will learn what a man is.
Title: Re: Triple reload time for xbows, halve bows damage
Post by: Gurgumul on February 23, 2016, 09:17:44 am
Make xbows only shoot once, reduce bows damage to 0. Those meleequeers need to learn what it means to be a man.