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Title: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Prpavi on January 22, 2016, 02:48:03 pm
Do which would be your choice if in the same situation like Neo. Continue as you were or learning "the secret".
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Algarn on January 22, 2016, 02:50:27 pm
Do which would be your choice if in the same situation like Neo. Continue as you were or learning "the secret".

You'd regret it either way. But red is the way to go.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: LordBerenger on January 22, 2016, 02:59:30 pm
Blue pill rox
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Leshma on January 22, 2016, 03:03:17 pm
Red pill, always. Value my personal freedom too much to allow them control my body and affect my brain. Blue pill people should be executed as traitors so they can't keep powering machine cluster anymore.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on January 22, 2016, 05:38:59 pm
Red pills are for those who wants to escape the reality of the world we are living in.
And it would be a good lesson for them too - cause they would wake up with a huge pain in their ass, and a little note next to them on the pilow: "Grow up son! P.S. Check for STDs. Morhpeus"

EDIT:

I see freedom as an ability to having your wish/dream fulfilled. And I can hardly imagine anyone wishing to wake up in a rusty, smelly prison cell of a ship, surrounded by complete strangers, being subjected to a list of rules and laws you had no influence on, taking strict military war-time orders from people you never new before, risking your life in a war against robots, and if you miraculously survive, having to rebuild a new society, while obviously meeting the same problems in the process, that we had for thousands of years.
A fucking nightmare if you ask me.
How is that different from dropping everything you have, families, friends, possessions and taking a one way ticket to Syria?.. That is the sort of freedom we are talking about in Matrix.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on January 22, 2016, 06:48:01 pm
I'd rather live by the laws of the universe than live within artificial confines defined by the powers that be that first and foremost serve their best interests while living a lie in doing so. After all is perceived happiness, true happiness?
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Taser on January 22, 2016, 07:01:56 pm
Red pills are for those who wants to escape the reality of the world we are living in.
And it would be a good lesson for them too - cause they would wake up with a huge pain in their ass, and a little note next to them on the pilow: "Grow up son! P.S. Check for STDs. Morhpeus"

EDIT:

I see freedom as an ability to having your wish/dream fulfilled. And I can hardly imagine anyone wishing to wake up in a rusty, smelly prison cell of a ship, surrounded by complete strangers, being subjected to a list of rules and laws you had no influence on, taking strict military war-time orders from people you never new before, risking your life in a war against robots, and if you miraculously survive, having to rebuild a new society, while obviously meeting the same problems in the process, that we had for thousands of years.
A fucking nightmare if you ask me.
How is that different from dropping everything you have, families, friends, possessions and taking a one way ticket to Syria?.. That is the sort of freedom we are talking about in Matrix.

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Red pill, always. Value my personal freedom too much to allow them control my body and affect my brain. Blue pill people should be executed as traitors so they can't keep powering machine cluster anymore.

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Smith was an awesome char in the Matrix.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on January 22, 2016, 07:10:42 pm
I'd rather live by the laws of the universe than live within artificial confines defined by the powers that be that first and foremost serve their best interests while living a lie in doing so. After all is perceived happiness, true happiness?

Yet you sit in a brick house, staring in a screen, working a job that enriches someone else, and most probably not feeling very happy. ( I don't know you of course, but you can't argue that it's the reality of most people in a free society )
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Tibe on January 22, 2016, 07:55:03 pm
Tha traitorguy had the right idea. Take the red pill, gain their trust, than meet with Smith and make a deal to betray them for the best and most successful fake life ever.

Your brain is nothing more than an organ anyway. Its not hard to break that wall in your mind, that tells the difference between what's real and what's not.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Jona on January 22, 2016, 08:03:33 pm
Smith was an awesome char in the Matrix.

The "Smith is the One" theory is the best.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Bronto on January 22, 2016, 08:19:41 pm
The "Smith is the One" theory is the best.

Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Leshma on January 22, 2016, 08:33:16 pm
Theoretical physicists work hard to find theory of everything. What if there is no such thing? That drawing boundaries is important and there is no "one hats fits all" theory?

Same can be said about this discussion. We can discuss freedom, define it, broaden the definition, talk about compromise, degrees and grades of freedom, talk about chaos vs order. In the end we'll came to a point where it doesn't make sense anymore. People love freedom but not chaos, chaos is total freedom, if universe was a man would he want chaos or order? Chaos means universe will cease to exist. Does universe wants to die, is that universal freedom? At certain point discussion will become pointless.

That's why we should stick to humans vs machines, red pill meaning harsh reality, blue pill being computer generated virtual reality. Machines need humans to survive, humans don't want to be exploited by artificial organism they created. If you go with machines you're massive bundle of sticks and we'll rape every opening on your body.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Tibe on January 22, 2016, 09:03:45 pm
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Ahh. So reminded me of this:
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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Tibe on January 22, 2016, 09:20:30 pm
I watched Matrix as a kid too. Frankly I just liked it as an actionmovie. Never really blew my mind for a second, because its just so full of itself in its own philosophy, even back than. I mean the message is solid, but the execution is just...tacky.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on January 23, 2016, 12:08:45 am
Yet you sit in a brick house, staring in a screen, working a job that enriches someone else, and most probably not feeling very happy. ( I don't know you of course, but you can't argue that it's the reality of most people in a free society )

You are pretty much spot on.

But that doesn't mean I wan't to live the rest of my life this way. I may not have a better choice, the only alternatives may be worse. You know like those bums who rejected society outright and decided to live on street corners freezing their arses off covered in shit. I'll do what I can to get by, but I can still dream, advocate and share ideas. Brick walls don't stop that.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Admerius on January 23, 2016, 12:31:38 am
Meh, pills?

Grind and snort, or inject straight in to brain. That way it would only be one short "movie" 30min-1h, instead of a sluggish semi religious emo-geek experience, while the neuro toxicity reduces your brain to goo.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Jona on January 23, 2016, 01:50:30 am
For a film that's trying to mind-fuck you over 'what is reality'

Now now, don't go getting this movie confused with Inception. The Matrix always was and always will be a corny action flick first, then weird sci-fi-that-shouldn't-be-read-into-too-much second.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Rico on January 23, 2016, 02:18:32 am
At the time i'm sure it was awesome and i remember having my mind blown
Matrix never blew my mind because it lacks this level of artistically constructed and consistent weirdness you can only find in Serial Experiments Lain
The whole show empathizes with some kind of autism, sometimes blissful and sometimes scary, in any case a very good tone for a cyberpunk-themed movie in my opinion

But I guess Matrix deserves its place in the internet culture because the pill metaphor is a very convenient way of describing people's (un)mindfulness

To OP:
In real life, you actually need both. You can't totally escape your predefined everyday life, since you need to earn your bread and butter and learn to enjoy the small things in life. A holistic perspective on the "truth" behind "everything" doesn't help with its pragmatic dimension. Deliberately looking away from intellectual problems, the implications of changing your frame of reference and complex relations does however convert you into an obedient zombie who is incapable of critical self-governance.

Most people I know seem to struggle with the "blue pill" aspects of life. They all feel so smart and critical and different from everyone else that they take pride in giving up about a 9-5 life. While this is an acceptable choice to make, they often overdo it and can't even get the easiest things done, but procrastinate forever and waste their own potential.

In summary, need both, but living a stable blue pill live comes first before you can allow yourself to add the red pill aspects. Else, we have a lot of red-pilled NEETs and housewives whose critical reasoning won't ever make a difference because of their positions.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on January 23, 2016, 03:00:32 am
ALL THE PILLS (ALSO PURPLE DRANK)

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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Jona on January 23, 2016, 03:18:01 am
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Gotta be real wary of the drug drug. Heard it could fuck you up real good if you ain't too careful.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 23, 2016, 03:19:05 am
I was about to reply with do both, but then i thought it would be too obvious, but 4chan had an image for it ready at my visit so might aswell drop it

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http://eye.swfchan.com/flash.asp?id=139105&n=Madotsuki+drugged+out.swf

This one always gets me in the mood, the bad one. Just click get file and itll play, swf may be loud, this one doesnt seem to be tho.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Asheram on January 23, 2016, 03:27:04 am
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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Admerius on January 23, 2016, 03:29:52 am
Self-pity is just ego-fortification through self-victimization.
Limiting yourself by adopting one of many stances that excuses fear of taking the initiative as some pure philosophical insight bullshit.

There are many examples, such as:
"I'm too good for this world, therefore I will always fail in this cruel world, so there's no point in trying."
"I'm worthless, and good for nothing, therefore I will do nothing."
"Reality is against me, FUCK THE WORLD! I'll do nothing!"
"Meh cba to live, I'll settle for surviving for now."
"I need the next high, sober-reality sucks because it doesn't give me what I earned by just enduring it etc."

Self-reinforcing negative thought patterns are an ego trip, the ego just wants ALL your attention and if you feed it negativity it will soon demand more, insatiable as it is.

This is how you deal with life:
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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on January 23, 2016, 03:32:31 am
Gotta be real wary of the drug drug. Heard it could fuck you up real good if you ain't too careful.

DRUG V FOR LIFE
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on January 23, 2016, 03:39:11 am
Self-pity is just ego-fortification through self-victimization.
Limiting yourself by adopting one of many stances that excuses fear of taking the initiative as some pure philosophical insight bullshit.

There are many examples, such as:
"I'm too good for this world, therefore I will always fail in this cruel world, so there's no point in trying."
"I'm worthless, and good for nothing, therefore I will do nothing."
"Reality is against me, FUCK THE WORLD! I'll do nothing!"
"Meh cba to live, I'll settle for surviving for now."
"I need the next high, sober-reality sucks because it doesn't give me what I earned by just enduring it etc."

Self-reinforcing negative thought patterns are an ego trip, the ego just wants ALL your attention and if you feed it negativity it will soon demand more, insatiable as it is.


So what's your point Mr.Freud?.. Are you taking red or blue?
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Leshma on January 23, 2016, 03:39:52 am
they take pride in giving up about a 9-5 life

9-17 is new age shift just like 10-18
7-15 is old school and bearable

There are worse things. Second shift is pain, third is hell. 12+ hour shift is torture. Unemployment is abyss.

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they often overdo it and can't even get the easiest things done, but procrastinate forever and waste their own potential.

Mental disorder. Some sort of attention deficit due to severe chronic depression. If they show manic episodes, then it's bipolar disorder. If not, general apathy due to underlying illness. Straightforward folks who don't buy into medical bullshit will call those people lazy and beat up working habits into them. Simple times, best times.

Red pill also symbolize barebone reality, no extra layers on top. Blue pill are overcomplicated additional systems on op of it. Red pill is nature, instincts, violence, freedom. Blue pill is modern society where you aren't allowed to be honest to others and yourself.

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Else, we have a lot of red-pilled NEETs and housewives whose critical reasoning won't ever make a difference because of their positions.

Who gives a rats ass about critical thinking? Even rulers of our reality value passion over mental masturbation. Everybody I've ever met, including university professors downright hate other smartasses other than themselves. Critical thinking is not a privilege, it's indulging in pleasure. Professors get to do it in front of others because they earned that right through hard work.

Take Xant persona for example. Despicable little worm, hated by huge majority of forumites. It's an act of course but that kind of smartassery drives people nuts and they want it dead, killed with fire.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Rico on January 23, 2016, 04:11:30 am
Mental disorder. Some sort of attention deficit due to severe chronic depression. If they show manic episodes, then it's bipolar disorder. If not, general apathy due to underlying illness. Straightforward folks who don't buy into medical bullshit will call those people lazy and beat up working habits into them. Simple times, best times.
Make it an illness, give it a name, and you have an excuse not to change. But why would you need to, when you can just buy the alleged medication some clever guy has just started marketing. Extra score if the person who made up the illness is the same who sells the medication. Other than that, it's actually arbitrary how the ill get our sympathy and the criminals aren't given another chance. Erewhon by Samuel Butler (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erewhon) pictures a world where this perspective is flipped around. Interesting to imagine that. Most mental illnesses arise from nurturing bad habits, and can be cured by making the exact opposite your new habit. Not unlike criminal tendencies. Messed up priorities between short-term versus long-term rewards.

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Who gives a rats ass about critical thinking? Even rulers of our reality value passion over mental masturbation. Everybody I've ever met, including university professors downright hate other smartasses other than themselves. Critical thinking is not a privilege, it's indulging in pleasure. Professors get to do it in front of others because they earned that right through hard work.
Rule of thumb: The smarter the person, the less of a smartass they are.

Smartasses suck because they don't realize that most discussions are a clash of predefined opinions which are later rationalized and presented in a semi-scientific way to sound appealing to those who can't decipher the bullshit in real-time. If you're smart and you disagree with a smartass, no amount of smartassness will change that because your opinion hasn't depended on arguments to begin with, and you are honest enough to realize that.

It's pointless to attempt to cure smartasses permanently though. I don't recommend trying that. As you discuss with them, you keep climbing in levels of abstraction until you arrive at the basic model building dilemma. They will either lose track your argumentation midway, feel stomped and encouraged to prey on dumb people to restore their self-esteem. Or they try to direct the discussion back at the initial question, at the very lowest level of abstraction, and you're trapped in an infinite recursion of smartass bullshit.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Admerius on January 23, 2016, 04:27:08 am
So what's your point Mr.Freud?.. Are you taking red or blue?

Freud? I was going for new-agey presens in the now guru.
Freud would draw parallels to sex, such as.
Red=Menstrual blood
Blue=Color for virginity.
or sumthin like dat.

My choice:
Red, because I would be interested in what the guy offering it means by "truth", and how I would experience it.
Even if it is the absolute "truth", I would still experience it through...
(sry for begin humble now)
...my imperfect senses and knowledge of how to relate to possible foreign inputs to my frame of reference(aka. worldview).
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Prpavi on January 23, 2016, 04:37:37 am
Blue pill for me (presuming I know it's not roofies and I'll get rapes anyways), it's simple, I don't trust people period especially the ones with all the answers, it's an ultimate escape tool for ones that have nothing to lose and only hope to gain some sort of meaning and purpose.

What are the terms, do I have to trust you 100% percent, fuck that. Not knowing will I ever see my loved ones fuck that again, Neo fits perfectly, ultimate loser who actually doesn't care if red pill kills him, shady black dude rapes him or he becomes "the chosen one", so fuck it let's do it anything's better than my current state, atleast something will finally happen.



Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Admerius on January 23, 2016, 04:39:01 am
Rico

Did you know that behind the smart-ass attitude is an insecure person that hides behind the know-it-all facade.
It's a sad state for any mind to be in, afraid of being wrong, afraid of being humbled by something that is more correct, thus eagerly living in a lie, obsessing over "I must be the smartest person around, otherwise I'm worthless"
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Rico on January 23, 2016, 04:52:05 am
Did you know that behind the smart-ass attitude is an insecure person that hides behind the know-it-all facade.
Yeah, that much is certain. The smartass' "wow I'm so red-pilled" attitude is a mere symptom of the inability to cope with the challenges of the "blue-pilled" life.
You really need to be the master of both pills, as HESKEY and WITCHCRAFT suggest :wink: Else you haven't achieved shit.

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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on January 23, 2016, 12:26:58 pm
Blue pill for me (presuming I know it's not roofies and I'll get rapes anyways), it's simple, I don't trust people period especially the ones with all the answers, it's an ultimate escape tool for ones that have nothing to lose and only hope to gain some sort of meaning and purpose.

What are the terms, do I have to trust you 100% percent, fuck that. Not knowing will I ever see my loved ones fuck that again, Neo fits perfectly, ultimate loser who actually doesn't care if red pill kills him, shady black dude rapes him or he becomes "the chosen one", so fuck it let's do it anything's better than my current state, atleast something will finally happen.

I'd argue it's usually the blue pill prescribers that act like they have all the answers. Systems that prescribe blue pills to an extent attempt to define your existence  and more loosely your purpose for you, they limit your choices and potential making it easier for you to adopt a path in life even if that path doesn't truly bring you happiness and only serves to propagate their own system regadless of how immoral, corrupt and artificial it really is. Being told how to live and why you live by those who act like they have all the answers but don't really have all the answers is in my view simply living a lie.

However I think I understand the angle that you're coming from. There will always be self confessed red pill consumers who themselves are as guilty as the blue pill prescribers in trying to solidify the definitions and parameters of our existence without actually knowing all the anwers usually for selfish reasons. This behaviour is probably linked to human nature more than anything else.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Leshma on January 24, 2016, 07:22:22 pm
Only thing I'm missing from cRPG is that Ukrainian former boxer who used to leech on DTV. Hopefully he's still alive and kicking. Really decent fellow, one of the few from this community whom I wouldn't slit throat and drink from their skulls.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Umbra on January 24, 2016, 07:56:53 pm
Blue pill all the way. When virtual reality becomes a thing i will never leave my room
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on January 25, 2016, 07:35:00 pm
I'd argue it's usually the blue pill prescribers that act like they have all the answers. Systems that prescribe blue pills to an extent attempt to define your existence  and more loosely your purpose for you, they limit your choices and potential making it easier for you to adopt a path in life even if that path doesn't truly bring you happiness and only serves to propagate their own system regadless of how immoral, corrupt and artificial it really is. Being told how to live and why you live by those who act like they have all the answers but don't really have all the answers is in my view simply living a lie.

prison.txt
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Prpavi on January 25, 2016, 07:37:42 pm
prison.txt

army.txt
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Xant on January 25, 2016, 08:10:47 pm
Great thread guys.

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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Kafein on January 25, 2016, 08:29:27 pm
Only thing I'm missing from cRPG is that Ukrainian former boxer who used to leech on DTV. Hopefully he's still alive and kicking. Really decent fellow, one of the few from this community whom I wouldn't slit throat and drink from their skulls.

That classic Leshma mid-sentence personality swing.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Leshma on January 26, 2016, 02:21:52 am
This discussion reminds me of that guy. He's like virtual Tyler Durden who isn't actually me. What do we do about spoilers 'round here?

Second sentence is my way of showing appreciation. It is okay when Arnie does it in Conan, but when my old friendshma does same on melee forums then it is clear sign of mental illness. This place is more virtual than set of that wonderful movie. There are no big boobed groupies waiting for me in the trailer.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on January 26, 2016, 03:39:32 am
This discussion reminds me of that guy. He's like virtual Tyler Durden who isn't actually me. What do we do about spoilers 'round here?

Second sentence is my way of showing appreciation. It is okay when Arnie does it in Conan, but when my old friendshma does same on melee forums then it is clear sign of mental illness. This place is more virtual than set of that wonderful movie. There are no big boobed groupies waiting for me in the trailer.

that made me remember how much i love him, so i made this little tribute

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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Xant on January 26, 2016, 07:58:35 am
Arnie is a bad Conan, there's about as much killer instinct in him as a wet towel. The sword is a prop for his poses, nothing more. New Conan is much better in that regard.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Torben on January 26, 2016, 08:11:21 am
Arnie is a bad Conan, there's about as much killer instinct in him as a wet towel. The sword is a prop for his poses, nothing more. New Conan is much better in that regard.

blasphemy
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Admerius on January 26, 2016, 08:35:28 am
Arnie is a bad Conan, there's about as much killer instinct in him as a wet towel. The sword is a prop for his poses, nothing more. New Conan is much better in that regard.

What if the bladesmaster of the east just showed him the display/circus trickery type of swordplay?
Just like San da is the display/circus trickery version of Gong Fu(Kung Fu, Chinaman boxing etc.)
After all he was a gladiator, meant to entertain/show off and get the rich women wet and focused on something else than "improving their husband's with friendly guidance" aka. their husbands could taste freedom for a while.

This actually makes your statement a + for Arnie, He is simple barabarian who learn show off sword style
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Xant on January 26, 2016, 03:51:09 pm
wat
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Smoothrich on January 26, 2016, 04:02:04 pm
no Pill required.. just hit Subscribe..

Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: AntiBlitz on January 26, 2016, 04:04:20 pm
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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on January 26, 2016, 04:37:17 pm
Arnie is a bad Conan, there's about as much killer instinct in him as a wet towel. The sword is a prop for his poses, nothing more. New Conan is much better in that regard.

... said Xant, and was about to tip his fedora, as he realized that Arnie's prop sword is sitting firmly handle deep between his man-boobs, and a mix of blood and mountain dew is pouring out of the wound.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Smoothrich on January 26, 2016, 04:57:19 pm
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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Smoothrich on January 26, 2016, 05:01:07 pm
Theoretical physicists work hard to find theory of everything. What if there is no such thing? That drawing boundaries is important and there is no "one hats fits all" theory?
vive, humans don't want to be exploited by artificial organism they created. If you go with machines you're massive bundle of sticks and we'll rape every opening on your body.

haha, theoretical physicists are arrogant pretentious circle jerking retards usually. I've recently even managed to theoretically disprove Einstein's Theory of Relativity, it just doesn't fit the Logical Model I've crafted....
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Torben on January 26, 2016, 05:13:13 pm
is there any way to mute the forum posts of certain people?
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Smoothrich on January 26, 2016, 05:37:14 pm
is there any way to mute the forum posts of certain people?

Ask Canary
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on January 26, 2016, 10:55:01 pm
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If you don't accept everyone's posting with love and compassion then you can go eat a fuck sandwich bitch get dead
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Taser on January 26, 2016, 11:45:22 pm
If you don't accept everyone's posting with love and compassion then you can go eat a fuck sandwich bitch get dead

Seems legit.

Dat sarcasm tho.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Moncho on January 26, 2016, 11:59:52 pm
is there any way to mute the forum posts of certain people?
Profile (your own) -> Buddies/Ignore List -> Edit Ignore List -> Enter the name in the box.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Smoothrich on January 27, 2016, 06:07:33 am
Profile (your own) -> Buddies/Ignore List -> Edit Ignore List -> Enter the name in the box.

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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Moncho on January 27, 2016, 10:10:27 am
You are trying very hard, Smoothie, but remember it's a very high line you need to cross to become (again) the most retarded forum persona around. But keep trying, you are getting near. Even with your previous experience, still not retarded enough.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Asheram on February 02, 2016, 02:23:06 am
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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: [ptx] on February 02, 2016, 08:57:27 am
My favorite fictional world is WH40k...

Think I'll pass :lol:
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Xant on February 02, 2016, 09:48:00 am
Pussy.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Christo on February 02, 2016, 12:00:58 pm
My favorite fictional world is WH40k...

Think I'll pass :lol:

fuck it, bring over the Tyranids.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Xant on February 03, 2016, 01:36:17 am
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/

Anyone else's life changed because of this subreddit?
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on February 03, 2016, 02:10:38 am
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/

Anyone else's life changed because of this subreddit?

Just had a quick look at it, and it seems to be something about men trying to explain why they can't get laid, and how it's women's fault. :)

Rather pathetic to be honest... It just really feels like getting ready for a fight by reading a book about fighting, written by some one who really sucks at fighting.

But if it helps someone - who am i to judge?..
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Taser on February 03, 2016, 02:23:09 am
Either way I get a Pikachu, not much of a dilemma.

Would rather have a growlithe really..

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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Xant on February 03, 2016, 03:28:07 am
Just had a quick look at it, and it seems to be something about men trying to explain why they can't get laid, and how it's women's fault. :)

Rather pathetic to be honest... It just really feels like getting ready for a fight by reading a book about fighting, written by some one who really sucks at fighting.

But if it helps someone - who am i to judge?..
Nonsense, the people there actually get laid plenty with the techniques therein.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Jona on February 03, 2016, 06:09:51 am
Would rather have a growlithe really..

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I feel like we now need a "what's your favorite pokemon and why?" thread.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Smoothrich on February 09, 2016, 07:56:22 pm
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Before I answer that for you, I'll give you your own choice..

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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Kafein on February 10, 2016, 12:47:09 am
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/

Anyone else's life changed because of this subreddit?

Know that sub. That explains so much about you.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Macropus on February 10, 2016, 11:58:43 pm
I honestly don't know, I haven't watched The Matrix...  :|
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Smoothrich on February 11, 2016, 12:50:17 am
I honestly don't know, I haven't watched The Matrix...  :|

lmao, racist

Watch Ender's Game instead, it has a better ending
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Leshma on February 11, 2016, 03:01:27 am
Back in 1999. when comrade Yeltsin was still drinking vodka, computers in Mother Russia looked like this:

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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Xant on February 11, 2016, 11:12:03 am
Know that sub. That explains so much about you.
Explains how I know so much about The Truth?
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Leshma on June 03, 2016, 05:11:44 pm
Time to resurrect this baby :D Related:

Elon Musk thinks we all live in a video game. So what if we do? (http://www.vox.com/2016/6/3/11837888/simulation-problem)

Mister Musk, I think you might be onto something here. Still find it hard to swallow that Xant and Kafein are real people and not bots... in case we're living in simulation, I'm more advanced simulation than both of them because I don't seem so obviously robotic. Or at least that's what I tell myself. Another reason for that could due to nasty bugs in my main program...

Do you think we're just code running on alien computers and nothing else?
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Gurgumul on June 03, 2016, 06:37:00 pm
Obviously everyone is AI except me, duh.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Xant on June 03, 2016, 07:56:15 pm
in case we're living in simulation, I'm more advanced simulation than both of them because I don't seem so obviously robotic.
You said what to me, mortal?
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Asheram on June 03, 2016, 08:45:23 pm
Time to resurrect this baby :D Related:

Elon Musk thinks we all live in a video game. So what if we do? (http://www.vox.com/2016/6/3/11837888/simulation-problem)

Mister Musk, I think you might be onto something here. Still find it hard to swallow that Xant and Kafein are real people and not bots... in case we're living in simulation, I'm more advanced simulation than both of them because I don't seem so obviously robotic. Or at least that's what I tell myself. Another reason for that could due to nasty bugs in my main program...

Do you think we're just code running on alien computers and nothing else?
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Gurgumul on June 03, 2016, 10:45:58 pm
I want to see a movie where all the characters are played by Nicolas Cage.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Utrakil on June 03, 2016, 11:02:03 pm
I want to see a movie where all the characters are played by Nicolas Cage.
like that?http://imgur.com/a/tum01 (http://imgur.com/a/tum01)
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Golem on June 03, 2016, 11:19:53 pm
 I feel like it's more fucked up, that we're actual unpredictable human beans.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Taser on June 03, 2016, 11:47:08 pm
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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 03, 2016, 11:49:10 pm
I dunno I think this whole idea of us living in some kind of simulation is so completely irrelevant and uninteresting. If we do, it doesn't change anything. In fact it would be a very simple solution to life, the universe and everything. We are currently approaching the technological possibilities to build complex simulations so it is a very obvious notion to think we are living in one. Seems much simpler and less interesting to me than what some religions have come up with in the past.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Rhekimos on June 04, 2016, 12:54:12 am
I dunno I think this whole idea of us living in some kind of simulation is so completely irrelevant and uninteresting. If we do, it doesn't change anything. In fact it would be a very simple solution to life, the universe and everything. We are currently approaching the technological possibilities to build complex simulations so it is a very obvious notion to think we are living in one. Seems much simpler and less interesting to me than what some religions have come up with in the past.

Especially if it's a "perfect" simulation, the distinction becomes meaningless. This comes out with the excitement and wonder of a techgeek reading introductory philosophy for the first time and latching onto an idea thinking it changes everything when it really changes not much at all.

Now if Elon figured out a way to test if we live in a simulation, that'd be actually interesting. Forget Mars and self-driving cars, give me the nature of reality.

Also it just pushes the origin question further away instead of solving it. If we're a simulation, then the reality that is running our simulation still has the exact same question of origin.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Leshma on June 04, 2016, 01:11:08 am
Such is the nature of the universe. Infinite spiral, two in correlation with each other at any section you take for reference, interweaving. There is no higher plane, higher universe or "reality" that hosts our simulation. They go on forever and only way to observe it is to stop for a moment. Otherwise it just endlessly flows inside out.

We'll probably find scientific model to become too rigid and deterministic. Probability is the key, we can't be sure of anything because there is no such thing. Yes, you can put some boundaries and find that your formula works but go past them and again it doesn't work. That is the problem with physics. We believe, just because it works on subset scale of the universe there must be a way to "fix" it, to expand it to work for all cases. There probably isn't.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Rhekimos on June 04, 2016, 02:28:08 am
Such is the nature of the universe. Infinite spiral, two in correlation with each other at any section you take for reference, interweaving. There is no higher plane, higher universe or "reality" that hosts our simulation. They go on forever and only way to observe it is to stop for a moment. Otherwise it just endlessly flows inside out.

Poetic. But if there's nothing simulating, can you call it a simulation? Isn't that just what "is"?

We'll probably find scientific model to become too rigid and deterministic. Probability is the key, we can't be sure of anything because there is no such thing. Yes, you can put some boundaries and find that your formula works but go past them and again it doesn't work. That is the problem with physics. We believe, just because it works on subset scale of the universe there must be a way to "fix" it, to expand it to work for all cases. There probably isn't.

As we fill out our understanding of those subsets, many new things and previously unseen connections will undoubtedly dawn on us. Whether one of those will be a grand theory of absolutely everything, I don't know. Seems unlikely. Even getting gravity and quantum physics to play along would be fantastic though.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Golem on June 04, 2016, 04:49:17 pm
Best things in life aren't even good.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Gurgumul on June 04, 2016, 06:24:38 pm
The world being a computer simulation seems like a temporary idea. 500 years ago people had their theories which we laugh at now. 500 years from now there will be some super advanced quantum technology for doing things we can't even imagine, and people will laugh at us for even considering the idea of a primitive digital computer simulating the world. The future people will have their theories to explain the world, and they will also be wrong. The closest one can get to understanding the nature of sentience, is if they were deprived of senses from the moment they are conceived. The more we know, the more we look at the world through the prism of physical experiences. It's like giving a computer a very limited amount of data, and telling it to calculate something that's way beyond that data. This only leads to errors and false results. You can't understand the world through drugs, not through religion, not science and not anything at all. Maybe you'll find out what it means to be or not to be kurwa after death, but then you won't really have a brain to process this info, will you?
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Kafein on June 04, 2016, 07:57:21 pm
The world being a computer simulation seems like a temporary idea. 500 years ago people had their theories which we laugh at now.

What theories we laugh at now? 500 years ago we lacked the engineering tools to actually test most of the ridiculous theories that got overturned later. These existed not because we were confident they were true, but because we tried to make sense of the world without the adequate tools to confront our models with reality. Or sometimes because of politics. There are plenty of examples of that now too, yet hardly a significant part of our knowledge is even moderately likely to be overturned. The ancients knew the properties of fauna and flora in their environment without understanding the chemistry and biology involved. Their knowledge was never overturned by later discoveries but merely put in context. Much in the same way, we know how to put satellites in orbit. Even formidable discoveries in physics can't change that.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Leshma on June 04, 2016, 08:46:46 pm
There are multiple ways how to do things and they aren't equally good. For example, there is a hole in the brick wall. You have oval shaped brick in your hand. After many attempts to put it in rectangular hole, you'll eventually mold it in desirable shape and force it into wall. Or you could be smart and pick the brick of right shape and size, just slide it in the opening.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Gurgumul on June 04, 2016, 08:56:45 pm
What theories we laugh at now?
Ridiculous stuff like gigantic ass monsters beyond the sea, or that the Earth is flat and carried by a big guy. These things seemed sensible because of lack of knowledge and technology, same as today's theories of brains connected to a gigantic ass computer. Seems theoretically possible with today's knowledge, just like the sea monsters back then, but nobody has seen neither the monsters, nor Big Boy Computer.

500 years ago we lacked the engineering tools to actually test most of the ridiculous theories that got overturned later. These existed not because we were confident they were true, but because we tried to make sense of the world without the adequate tools to confront our models with reality. Or sometimes because of politics. There are plenty of examples of that now too, yet hardly a significant part of our knowledge is even moderately likely to be overturned. The ancients knew the properties of fauna and flora in their environment without understanding the chemistry and biology involved. Their knowledge was never overturned by later discoveries but merely put in context. Much in the same way, we know how to put satellites in orbit. Even formidable discoveries in physics can't change that.
Practical stuff, yes. Past people's practical knowledge wasn't false, it was mostly incomplete, but so is ours, and so will be future people's. But when it comes to theories about life and spiritual stuff, our theories are no more correct than the past or future people's. On a bigger scale of time, computer brains will turn out to be just a fad, something that appeared because people discovered a new bit of technology, and created a world theory out of excitement.

There are multiple ways how to do things and they aren't equally good. For example, there is a hole in the brick wall. You have oval shaped brick in your hand. After many attempts to put it in rectangular hole, you'll eventually mold it in desirable shape and force it into wall. Or you could be smart and pick the brick of right shape and size, just slide it in the opening.
But no brick will be perfect in shape and size like my dick :^), you can come infinitely close to perfection, but there will always be a tiny bit missing. Same with world theories.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Golem on June 05, 2016, 01:47:15 am
There are multiple ways how to do things and they aren't equally good. For example, there is a hole in the brick wall. You have oval shaped brick in your hand. After many attempts to put it in rectangular hole, you'll eventually mold it in desirable shape and force it into wall. Or you could be smart and pick the brick of right shape and size, just slide it in the opening.

Either way, you can't see through the wall now.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Gurgumul on June 05, 2016, 02:28:09 am
Either way, you can't see through the wall now.
You must transcend into a higher plane of computering. Then you won't even need to see beyond the wall. You will do as you lust without trespassing from the square.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Asheram on June 05, 2016, 02:46:34 am
There are multiple ways how to do things and they aren't equally good. For example, there is a hole in the brick wall. You have oval shaped brick in your hand. After many attempts to put it in rectangular hole, you'll eventually mold it in desirable shape and force it into wall. Or you could be smart and pick the brick of right shape and size, just slide it in the opening.
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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Leshma on June 05, 2016, 03:03:03 am
Either way, you can't see through the wall now.

You can't see through the wall because you're looking at it.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Golem on June 05, 2016, 03:18:07 am
You can't see through the wall because you're looking at it.

How can I be looking at a wall, if my eyes aren't real.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Gurgumul on June 05, 2016, 04:30:43 am
How can I be looking at a wall, if my eyes aren't real.
Your eyes are irrelevant because you see the wall with the wall itself. To see past the wall means to remove it, but since you put that oval brick in there, there's not much to grab at.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Golem on June 05, 2016, 05:01:43 am
Your eyes are irrelevant because you see the wall with the wall itself. To see past the wall means to remove it, but since you put that oval brick in there, there's not much to grab at.

I didn't, Leshma didn't either. I think you might be a brick Gurgumul.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Xant on June 05, 2016, 09:42:33 am
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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Kafein on June 05, 2016, 12:20:04 pm
Is "Gurgumul" the way it's written in the English version?
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Xant on June 05, 2016, 04:59:42 pm
Anyway, surely Musk isn't dumb enough to actually believe what he said. Must be a publicity stunt.

Without even knowing the answer to the Fermi paradox, there's no way to assign a probability to how likely it is or isn't that we're in a simulation. And that's just one of the many problems with that "one in billions chance" statement.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Golem on June 05, 2016, 05:13:19 pm
Therefore I proclaim myself to be the one and only Jesus cHrist, savour of mankink. Bring forth the cross, bitches.
Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: Asheram on August 24, 2017, 06:28:11 pm
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Title: Re: Red pill or the Blue pill?
Post by: IR_Kuoin on August 24, 2017, 06:58:55 pm
So which pill did the Wachowski brothers take so I dont take the same one?

Blue pill mixed with early childhood pedo uncle with a thing for dress-up.