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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: hyena on May 27, 2011, 03:17:50 pm
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Alright so heres the deal.
I'm not one of those who plays CRPG for over a thousand hours, to be fair its rare I get chance to sit down for a proper session as i'm a busy bee.
When throwing got raped brutually, I just rerolled an archer and did the 'Skip the Fun' thing just to get back competativily.
Now, is heirlooming really that game breaking that it has to be done? I mean, the number increases dont look that big to me, do they make that much of a difference or is it a status thing?
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To be honest, no. You gain much more by just leveling a new level over 30. A level 33+ 1st gen usually has a bigger advantage than let's say a lvl 30 6th gen. Each heirloom point usually just adds one damage to your weapon, or increases it's speed very slightly.
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Well, on their own, they don't look so good to do all the heirlooms, but when you add the numbers together, it gives an advantage.
Guys, don't tell me that it does not, everyone knows it, right? :wink:
It's like the KERS of cRPG: Gives a slight boost only, but it can save your ass.
Well as an Archer heirlooms are still nice, you can focus on your bow and arrow, maybe a sidearm if you carry one with you.
But don't forget that if a player relies only on Heirloom Powers, then who controls who, the player the character, or is it the other way around?
8-)
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Thank you, thats the sort of reply I was hoping for. They are nice but not that important, which is perfect for me.
Just got worried with everyone seeming to clamour for them that I was missing some huge point XD
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I play a HA, do well, and I only heirloomed my horse to get my speed back to 50.
Standard arrows and bow - so far I havent felt the need to retire for heirloomed archery related items.
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Heirlooms are like ironflesh. One unit may not be particularly noticeable, but it gets to be fairly clear as you invest more.
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To be honest, no. You gain much more by just leveling a new level over 30. A level 33+ 1st gen usually has a bigger advantage than let's say a lvl 30 6th gen. Each heirloom point usually just adds one damage to your weapon, or increases it's speed very slightly.
Spot on eval.
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I agree Iam not going to retire because you can just buy the looms now, Iam coming up to level 30 and by the time i get to level 31 I will have enough cash just to buy the loom.
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I agree Iam not going to retire because you can just buy the looms now, Iam coming up to level 30 and by the time i get to level 31 I will have enough cash just to buy the loom.
An average of 200K per loom level, I take it you are multi-gen?
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Heirlooms are like ironflesh. One unit may not be particularly noticeable, but it gets to be fairly clear as you invest more.
This is the perfect analogy. If you're 1st gen, +1 dmg won't help you remotely as much as the potential 3 skill points you get from staying at lvl31 (from 30), but masterwork a few items and the marginal benefit swings the other way. It's all about how much time you're willing/planning to sink into your character.
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2nd gen but Iam an archer so I make a lot of dosh
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Heirlooms are like ironflesh. One unit may not be particularly noticeable, but it gets to be fairly clear as you invest more.
agreed. I do considerably better on my highest gen character than I do with my alts. Heirlooming is a large part of this.
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agreed. I do considerably better on my highest gen character than I do with my alts. Heirlooming is a large part of this.
Causality is a funny thing.
Do you do better on him because you have heirlooms?
Or because in order to get heirlooms you have to play through several generations thus becoming better at playing said class?
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Yes. Want to have a level 35 instead? Do it after you've heirloomed all of your equipment. Then think of how powerful you'll be. ;)
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4 looms (gloves and chest) gives me +8 armor :)
Also, good luck at buying heirlooms for under 350k. (heirloomed once)
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Causality is a funny thing.
Do you do better on him because you have heirlooms?
Or because in order to get heirlooms you have to play through several generations thus becoming better at playing said class?
Good point.
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4 looms (gloves and chest) gives me +8 armor :)
Also, good luck at buying heirlooms for under 350k. (heirloomed once)
Triple heirloomed Chain Mittens are amazing <333
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I think heirloom usefulness depends more on what you're heirlooming:
Things like a horse... a little extra speed or turn might mean the difference between life and death.
Or if you have a certain weight of armor you don't want to go beyond (namely for ranged players) then heirlooming that armor is your only way to increase your defense without impairing your wpf.
Or for someone like me who prefers crossbows, there is no skill like Powerstrike and Powerdraw to boost crossbow damage, so heirlooming is the only way to go if you want to do more.
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Causality is a funny thing.
Do you do better on him because you have heirlooms?
Or because in order to get heirlooms you have to play through several generations thus becoming better at playing said class?
eh, I was one of the original M&B Warband beta testers. I've played it all. Honestly, I'm not any better at polearm than I am at sword in shield.
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Triple heirloomed Chain Mittens are amazing <333
Triple heirloomed Blue hose, felt hat/fur hat and leather gloves.
Best weightless armor. There are more hats though.
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Leveling to 35 will give you less power than retiring like 16 times, and will go slower. Furthermore, you can't go up after level 35. When you have 16 heirloom points, you aren't really close to having everything you use masterworked, and you can also start trading etc.
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Heirlooms have major impact for archers, other class can go easely without them. But when you face someone of your same skills, having or not an heirloomed weapon can be decisive
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5 looms, MW Strongbow and sharp Bodkins :)
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Heirlooms have major impact for archers, other class can go easely without them. But when you face someone of your same skills, having or not an heirloomed weapon can be decisive
This, some class do get more benefit from heirloom,it's especially true for archers, having a mw bow is a really big upgrade (but IMO playing an archer if you're new to this game is the hardest way to go). I think (but have not tested it) it's also make a big difference for cav and xbow.
it does give you an hedge in melee but someone that is really skilled will do (almost) just as good without it.