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Title: Deep Web
Post by: Prpavi on October 03, 2015, 09:56:40 am
Any experienses, toughts?

Discuss...
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Latvian on October 03, 2015, 10:35:15 am
place where you dont go, its dangerous and you cant unsee things you have seen. Thats all i know
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: LordBerenger on October 03, 2015, 10:42:18 am
Any experienses, toughts?

Discuss...

Silk Road. Silk Road. Silk Road and Silk Road.

Buy steroids there and ur good to go. Unless the site is down again. Then ur rekked. Maybe u can waste bitcoins and hire fake hitmen.
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Gravoth_iii on October 03, 2015, 10:47:13 am
Boring now, i was too late to the party too. Theres probably stuff there still, but way harder to access since you need contacts. Wiki links are all dead pretty much, but its fun to read what used to be there.
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: LordBerenger on October 03, 2015, 11:49:24 am
Boring now, i was too late to the party too. Theres probably stuff there still, but way harder to access since you need contacts. Wiki links are all dead pretty much, but its fun to read what used to be there.

Should be forums to go to. Or possibly certain deep web search engines.
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Prpavi on October 03, 2015, 12:36:41 pm
Well as I understand Tor is pretty much dead and there is a heavy police presence there, there are new .onion browsers
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Ikarus on October 03, 2015, 01:52:27 pm
Never been there, but what I know is that you shouldn´t look for childporn there and especially not hosting it  :lol:
-> it might actually get you killed by hired guns as what seemed to happen in the past

on the other hand, a lot of old, useless military data and market for them drugs, weapons and other shit


maybe one day I´ll take a look, but not from my pc, 2 shady 4 me.
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Leshma on October 03, 2015, 02:27:15 pm
Deep Web -> Child Porn sources -> Be arrested -> Sentence minimum 10 years -> Enjoy being a prisoner

Tor is dead because it was NSA's tool from the very beginning. Only hipster idiots believe in scenarios like in Mr Robot where it is possible to out play the government, posing as some underground hacker. Those serious hacker groups are nothing but government funded, USA keeps that secret, China and Russia doesn't. Rest of the hackers are clowns, nothing more. Like the guy who was running Silk Road, he fell because he was grade A idiot. It is interesting how they didn't bring him in sooner, maybe they weren't interested in him enough.
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Kalam on October 03, 2015, 05:50:03 pm
There were a lot of awesome academic resources (pirated scholastic journals, etc) floating around. They're mostly still there, but just as many have disappeared or gone mainstream.

@Leshma: I'm not discounting your belief, and I certainly don't support any pop culture view of the subject, but I do question the conclusion that all serious hacker groups are government funded. Surely, some may be corporate funded, criminal, security enthusiasts/academics (that are usually approached by governments at some point, sure), or decentralized vandal cells?
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: mcdeath on October 03, 2015, 06:07:17 pm
Gotta love that cheese pizza
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Alec on October 03, 2015, 07:50:13 pm
Deep Web -> Child Porn sources -> Be arrested -> Sentence minimum 10 years -> Enjoy being a prisoner

Tor is dead because it was NSA's tool from the very beginning. Only hipster idiots believe in scenarios like in Mr Robot where it is possible to out play the government, posing as some underground hacker. Those serious hacker groups are nothing but government funded, USA keeps that secret, China and Russia doesn't. Rest of the hackers are clowns, nothing more. Like the guy who was running Silk Road, he fell because he was grade A idiot. It is interesting how they didn't bring him in sooner, maybe they weren't interested in him enough.

The Silk Road was ran by the community, not one guy. The guy they caught who posed as DPR wasn't the founder in the first place and besides him there was at least one more DPR.

Apart from this, most of those "serious" hacker groups are making political statements and are well known cause of the press and media. The real "hackers" don't go around bragging about their actions or make claims of an attack in public, they keep their heads down and avoid getting caught. Your "clowns" are the wannabe script kiddies trying to be cool and impress their friends.
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Kafein on October 03, 2015, 10:58:19 pm
I go there all the time. 127.0.0.1 is one hell of a place.
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Leshma on October 04, 2015, 12:36:17 am
Apart from this, most of those "serious" hacker groups are making political statements and are well known cause of the press and media. The real "hackers" don't go around bragging about their actions or make claims of an attack in public, they keep their heads down and avoid getting caught. Your "clowns" are the wannabe script kiddies trying to be cool and impress their friends.

Dude, next time when you want to talk about script kiddies, make sure you don't ask about simple way to bind two folders under Linux. Because that removes your credibility when it comes to any kind of scripting.
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Clockworkkiller on October 04, 2015, 12:44:25 am
I go there all the time. 127.0.0.1 is one hell of a place.

Yea, I keep looping back around to it
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Ikarus on October 04, 2015, 04:30:41 am
I go there all the time. 127.0.0.1 is one hell of a place.
home, sweet home
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Alec on October 04, 2015, 01:03:24 pm
Dude, next time when you want to talk about script kiddies, make sure you don't ask about simple way to bind two folders under Linux. Because that removes your credibility when it comes to any kind of scripting.

Isn't that the point? Script kiddies can't script. I can probably do a lot more than you eventhough I suck at UNIX systems. Don't act so butthurt and next time you post shit, get your facts straight.
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Leshma on October 04, 2015, 01:59:46 pm
Well then, solve your own problem if that's the case. I could help you but decided not to. It was a good decision at the end. Years of experience of helping little pricks who play cRPG thought me well.
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Oberyn on October 04, 2015, 02:00:45 pm
Who have you helped in cRPG, and what did you help them with?
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Leshma on October 04, 2015, 02:02:42 pm
Revealing your true nature of right wing nutcase is first step to recovery. We're going very slow, but there is progress being made.
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Alec on October 04, 2015, 03:05:21 pm
Well then, solve your own problem if that's the case. I could help you but decided not to. It was a good decision at the end. Years of experience of helping little pricks who play cRPG thought me well.

This. nuff said.
Are you mad because I corrected you? lmao
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Vibe on October 05, 2015, 02:16:28 pm
The most I've had to do with this (Dark web) is using RetroShare with some friends, which is a pretty cool thing I guess. Loads of features all secure.
 http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: LordBerenger on October 05, 2015, 03:04:24 pm
The most I've had to do with this (Dark web) is using RetroShare with some friends, which is a pretty cool thing I guess. Loads of features all secure.
 http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/

Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Kafein on October 05, 2015, 07:26:59 pm
The most I've had to do with this (Dark web) is using RetroShare with some friends, which is a pretty cool thing I guess. Loads of features all secure.
 http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/

Retroshare isn't "dark web". It has nothing to do with the web at all.
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Xant on October 05, 2015, 07:28:49 pm
"Deep web" and related terms are so misunderstood. People think it's some kind of a cool Matrix-esque thing when it's the most boring and mundane thing ever.
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Kafein on October 05, 2015, 07:32:56 pm
"Deep web" and related terms are so misunderstood. People think it's some kind of a cool Matrix-esque thing when it's the most boring and mundane thing ever.

It's literally using the web without a DNS, isn't it?
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Vibe on October 05, 2015, 07:52:22 pm
Retroshare isn't "dark web". It has nothing to do with the web at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Web

"The darknets which constitute the Dark Web include small, friend-to-friend peer-to-peer networks, as well as large, popular networks like Freenet, I2P, and Tor, operated by public organizations and individuals."

???
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Leshma on October 05, 2015, 10:02:22 pm
It is extremely slow, like using dial up Internet with 8 kbps modem over ancient analog phone line.

Only interest I had into Deep Web was finding some books I couldn't obtain the other way. Couldn't find them in the end.
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Kafein on October 06, 2015, 01:06:59 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Web

"The darknets which constitute the Dark Web include small, friend-to-friend peer-to-peer networks, as well as large, popular networks like Freenet, I2P, and Tor, operated by public organizations and individuals."

???

Wiki page talks about WWW explicitly, Retroshare doesn't appear to be doing that. Of course, this is ultimately a pedantic distinction, but the nature of Retroshare seems to indicate it's for using with people you already know.
Title: Re: Deep Web
Post by: Vibe on October 06, 2015, 08:34:15 am
Wiki page talks about WWW explicitly, Retroshare doesn't appear to be doing that. Of course, this is ultimately a pedantic distinction, but the nature of Retroshare seems to indicate it's for using with people you already know.

Yeah the keyword being Friend2Friend (F2F) network, both mentioned on that wiki page and on RetroShare webpage. I don't know either if completely private networks such as this should really fall under WWW, but the wiki sure seems to indicate that. Well whatever, no reason to nitpick.