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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on September 24, 2015, 11:51:46 pm

Title: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on September 24, 2015, 11:51:46 pm
After a long discussion with my men and I, we have decided to claim New Asugan Castle as our new home. The Warriors of Tengri have let this land go to waste and devolve into crime. We shall liberate the people and give them safety and security as any good lord would.

Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: sJimmy on September 25, 2015, 12:20:58 am
May the Odds, be ever in your Flavor.  :)
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: BlackxBird on September 25, 2015, 12:26:16 am
This castle will be mine in a few days. U can try to attack it, I won't stop you. Just be aware that I will send you imo to EU when you try. No matter how many armies you bring.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: njames89 on September 25, 2015, 12:30:01 am
MY GOD A WAR THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE ACRE? CAN IT BE? DO MINE EYES DECEIVE ME?
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: BlackxBird on September 25, 2015, 12:33:41 am
Well, attacking an ally of mine is the same as declareing war on us.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on September 25, 2015, 12:39:10 am
Well, attacking an ally of mine is the same as declareing war on us.
Not listed as your allies, just listed as giving military support for you. The only listed defensive allies are listed below. You have no cassus belli for joining this war. These lands are outside your de jure claim of the Desert, as it is part of the Steppes.

Military Support:

The Kalmarunionen
Warriors of Tengri
Lost Legion
Templar
Sloths

Defence allicance:

Brotherhood
Wardens of the North
Hounds of Chulainn

Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: BlackxBird on September 25, 2015, 12:39:49 am
I told my turkish friends yesteday that Im going there to take it. As I said, try it. But be aware of the consequences.

Those ones up there are the military allicances. The ones down there are kinda only for roster support.

And if you think you can do shit with 3 1K armies u are in the wrong movie dude.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: sJimmy on September 25, 2015, 12:49:16 am
Hmm, I dont know Back Bird, you saying your going to take that Castle is kind of like saying you where going to take New Durquba :P
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on September 25, 2015, 12:49:41 am
I told my turkish friends yesteday that Im going there to take it. As I said, try it. But be aware of the consequences.

Those ones up there are the military allicances. The ones down there are kinda only for roster support.

And if you think you can do shit with 3 1K armies u are in the wrong movie dude.

The turks have no right to the land as they have been proven unfit lords. I have spoken to the rightful people of the lands, the Steppe Folk, and have been given their blessing to settle there. If you wish to come to war with my 4 man faction then there is little I can do to stop you, since as you've mentioned I only have 3k troops. However I'd like to ask you this: Which is more interesting, having another castle? Or having an active faction on the map who will actually attack places and do things even if their troops are dwarfed by the size of the armies of established empires?
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: BlackxBird on September 25, 2015, 12:55:50 am
loool. If you want to have a fief, ask me. Don't declare war on me.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: njames89 on September 25, 2015, 12:58:28 am
Hmm, I dont know Back Bird, you saying your going to take that Castle is kind of like saying you where going to take New Durquba :P

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Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Voncrow on September 25, 2015, 01:00:54 am
Unsurprisingly the next faction to make an attack isn't acre. As is tradition at this point.
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Post by: njames89 on September 25, 2015, 01:01:23 am
Oh voncrow...

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Well I for one am excited for some battles! So sad since you guys gave up attacking us   :cry:
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on September 25, 2015, 01:02:10 am
loool. If you want to have a fief, ask me. Don't declare war on me.

Are you admitting to being a vassal of the Warriors of Tengri? I've scoured the forum using the mighty search function and can find no mention of you and the Warriors of Tengri having a defensive pact, only a offensive military alliance against the Holy chadzian Empire which I am not apart of. If you wish to discuss this over voice please message me whatever teamspeak it is you use and we can be civil and figure this out. If it comes to war it comes to war. I believe you have me on steam.
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Post by: Voncrow on September 25, 2015, 01:04:29 am
Are you admitting to being a vassal of the Warriors of Tengri? I've scoured the forum using the mighty search function and can find no mention of you and the Warriors of Tengri having a defensive pact, only a offensive military alliance against the Holy chadzian Empire which I am not apart of. If you wish to discuss this over voice please message me whatever teamspeak it is you use and we can be civil and figure this out. If it comes to war it comes to war. I believe you have me on steam.

A Military Alliance is different to a Defense Pact in that the allies aid each other in offensive and defensive wars. It isn't exclusively offensive, although military support does suggest it, but does not mean they can't assist them.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: BlackxBird on September 25, 2015, 01:08:23 am
Warriors of Tengri are our allies now for almost a year. I command kinda all of their battles, we supported them continuously with troops when grey order came to take reyvadin.

If u think you can do attacks without checking the background of someone, u're a bad strat player. You can't even fucking imagine how hard it was to get into NA. I mean like, I united NA against HCE. 1 week before I did not even know who dutchy jona or thalion are lol, do u guys think that was luck or something?

My point is simple. If you attack an ally of mine, no matter if you know he is or he isn't I gonna wipe you as fast as possible. You can attack me lol, but attacking an ally means death. Fast and painfull.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on September 25, 2015, 01:10:25 am
A Military Alliance is different to a Defense Pact in that the allies aid each other in offensive and defensive wars. It isn't exclusively offensive, although military support does suggest it, but does not mean they can't assist them.
In the context of Black Birds invasion post(The orig OP before he edited it), it implies that their alliances were to be used for the invasion of the Desert and against HCE as was stated multiple times throughout the 150+ pages of the thread. In the current OP it states that his military support for defensive wars is only for vassals which I do not believe the Warriors of Tengri are.

Warriors of Tengri are our allies now for almost a year. I command kinda all of their battles, we supported them continuously with troops when grey order came to take reyvadin.

If u think you can do attacks without checking the background of someone, u're a bad strat player. You can't even fucking imagine how hard it was to get into NA. I mean like, I united NA against HCE. 1 week before I did not even know who dutchy jona or thalion are lol, do u guys think that was luck or something?

My point is simple. If you attack an ally of mine, no matter if you know he is or he isn't I gonna wipe you as fast as possible. You can attack me lol, but attacking an ally means death. Fast and painfull.

Because its better to have fiefs that are just sitting unused and rotting with crime than have active players own places on the map. I have asked you to sit down and discuss with me and have yet to receive a response on that. Unfortunately the EU players do not have shitpost threads for every action they do on Strat like the NA players do so its a bit harder to do the research.

All I'm saying is you guys bitch about no one doing attacks or fighting anyone, but the second someone actually tries to do it you threaten to shit on them with your 50k+ troops lol. The Warriors of Tengri have over 15k in EU at least, if they wish to fight this war one on one they would still most likely defeat me.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: BlackxBird on September 25, 2015, 01:19:11 am
Warriors of Tengri are our allies. In the war we had against GO I was kinda the commander of our anti grey alliance. I was telling ppl what to do, I divided the map, so told tengris to take that and that fief and other ppl to take their fiefs. I'm the anti grey faction 2015. Atleast as long as strat worked. Now Vercngetorix and Oguz were bored in EU so I asked them to come over. Unfortunately Verncegtorix studies now, so he is not able to manage the fief. So I really asked him yesterday to take that fief. Due to the fact that I gave him 10 fiefs in EU it was okay for him lol
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Post by: Taser on September 25, 2015, 01:20:32 am
Interesting. I like this shitfest that may be erupting here.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: njames89 on September 25, 2015, 01:21:11 am
I must agree with Taser quite interesting. Quite.

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Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: BlackxBird on September 25, 2015, 01:30:47 am
not today.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: sJimmy on September 25, 2015, 01:53:59 am
... You can't even fucking imagine how hard it was to get into NA. I mean like, I united NA against HCE. 1 week before I did not even know who dutchy jona or thalion are lol, do u guys think that was luck or something?

Carefull Herr Black Bird, you wouldn't want to alienate your NA "Allies" and Merc "Support" ..
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: njames89 on September 25, 2015, 02:18:42 am
Blackbird you jumped on an enemy already engaged in a great war across Calradia. Your achievements mean nothing i'm afraid.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 25, 2015, 04:00:09 am
Any battle Versus EU Scum on NA lands has my Xbow.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: BlackxBird on September 25, 2015, 07:09:50 am
Carefull Herr Black Bird, you wouldn't want to alienate your NA "Allies" and Merc "Support" ..

I dont remember talking to you about diplomacy. I talked with dutchy, so how can u know who our allies and who our merc supporters were?
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Bryggan on September 25, 2015, 07:49:15 am
BlackBird is upset because he doesn't want to waste any of his 50K troops as he know's I am coming from the West, and he'll need all those guys to stop me.  So please everyone, help the poor guy out and kneel before him and beg for a fief rather than attacking one... as I said, he needs his men.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: HappyPhantom on September 25, 2015, 08:44:34 am
Any battle Versus EU Scum on NA lands has my Xbow.

I'll take that over your  bloody horse.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Sparvico on September 25, 2015, 09:17:00 am
I'll take that over your  bloody horse.

As long as I don't show up with my harpoons and throwing daggers my team should do fine.  :|
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Bronto on September 25, 2015, 02:21:14 pm
You sure? Cos i have 20 donkeys here that could be yours if you errrrrrrrrrrrr... looked the other way.

Also Tengri asked us to attack this castle, it's overrun with crime and they need some assistance. So dont trouble yourself please, we'll take care of all the crime.

Fear not Heskey, if shit gets real I've got those 600 fairly heavily armed troops that will crush any army sent to oppose you!
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: cup457 on September 25, 2015, 02:39:49 pm
lmao turks
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 25, 2015, 03:45:34 pm
I'll take that over your  bloody horse.

Only on field battles does he do good on horse.

I have a 10:1 K/D usually on my xbow(with 20-30 kills on average). I Prefer the cav, but no one does field battles(or specs real cavalry sets for field battles), so I gave up on cav based strat chars.

You should be happy to keep me mounted. I still hunt archers even with xbow, just I'm a bigger target on HB than with a xbow.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Gryph_Hawkshade on September 25, 2015, 05:49:45 pm
So I really asked him yesterday to take that fief.

Conveinant...  Blackbird is like that fat kid that has a birthday party and screams and shouts whenever anyone is playing with his toys, his greed and avarice are only barely surpassed by his pride.

You done goofed, messing with Blackmoustache. HE WILL WIPE YOU, unlike his bum... 'aint nobody got time for dat.'
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: sJimmy on September 26, 2015, 06:05:47 am
I dont remember talking to you about diplomacy. I talked with dutchy, so how can u know who our allies and who our merc supporters were?

But you have talked to me. I am the Leader of Lost Legion, and Dutchy is my 2nd in Command. What ever talks you had with him, I always hear, thus I would know about your allies and merc supporters are.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Bryggan on September 26, 2015, 07:26:09 pm
But you have talked to me. I am the Leader of Lost Legion, and Dutchy is my 2nd in Command. What ever talks you had with him, I always hear, thus I would know about your allies and merc supporters are.

He also said he had talked to the leader of the Holy chadzian Empire when he had actually just talked to Acre.  While the guy may be a brilliant strategist who taught the ignorant anti-HCE mercs how to fight, he's not very good at diplomacy.

PS: I'm not the Emperor of the HCE anymore, and won't be until chadz' forgives me my arrogance and sees fit to grant me an Empire once more (an Empire being an entity which consists of more than one faction).  For, as Dirk told me, "Seest thou how chadz with his lightning smites always the bigger animals, and will not suffer them to wax insolent, while those of a lesser bulk chafe him not? How likewise his bolts fall ever on the highest houses and the tallest trees? So plainly does He love to bring down everything that exalts itself. Thus ofttimes a mighty host is discomfited by a few men, when chadz in his jealousy sends fear or storm from heaven, and they perish in a way unworthy of them. For chadz allows no one to have high thoughts but Himself. Again, hurry always brings about disasters, from which huge sufferings are wont to arise; but in delay lie many advantages, not apparent (it may be) at first sight, but such as in course of time are seen of all. Such then is my counsel to thee, O Emperor."*

So I will remain a humble crusader fighting the good fight, putting all thoughts of grandeur behind me.

PPS. Bonus points for whoever figures out the quote.

* Black Bird, you may want to take note of that.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: BlackxBird on September 27, 2015, 04:00:29 am
like, people told me that james is tah king. Like, THE KING. I kinda noticed that he isnt when I kinda got "into" na.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: GandalfJr on September 27, 2015, 04:28:39 am
like, people told me that james is tah king. Like, THE KING. I kinda noticed that he isnt when I kinda got "into" na.
pls take sloths off military support second time sloths have asked u
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 04, 2015, 06:37:55 am
Looks like I win  8-)

Thanks for the two castles, apparently I can do shit with 3k troops(like make you QQ from NA).  :D


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Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Dynamics_BRD on October 04, 2015, 08:29:00 am
Looks like I win  8-)

Thanks for the two castles, apparently I can do shit with 3k troops(like make you QQ from NA).  :D


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If Dutchy didn't take you in and give you his support I doubt you would have gotten the roster or the improved gear needed to take the castle.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 04, 2015, 09:01:12 am
If Dutchy didn't take you in and give you his support I doubt you would have gotten the roster or the improved gear needed to take the castle.

Sure. I know the roster I would have gotten and I would have taken the castle. But there's no way to prove it, and either way I still took the castle. I had 3 1k shiny armies before with great gear for 2 and pretty good for the last.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Dutchydave on October 04, 2015, 05:35:12 pm
Dynamics you got it all wrong, Tristan and Erzoths guys had troops and gear before even joining. Hell, it was Jimmy that decided to take in the Erzoth guys and they have been doing a great job.
Title: Re: Soldiers of Erzoth Declare War on the Warriors of Tengri!
Post by: Dynamics on October 04, 2015, 09:22:48 pm
Was gonna write a wall of text but had the wrong forum account you win this time tris and heskey