Give me war. Give some drama. And give me an enemy who does something. And most importantly, get me a fair roster, and Im totally fine with everything, but I don't really want to fight with people who hate me and who'd give a shit about my orders in strat battles :DBut remember BlackBird, this won't just be your war. You will have allies this time.
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HCE will sign equally for any two factions that go to war in NA not with HCE!You can say that, but there's always a group of people in every faction that will refuse to sign for another side even if they're neutral to that party for whatever reason. Also what's to say that half of acre won't goes under pseudonyms and sign against a specific side making merc support uneven. Not trying to say you guys will just using it as an example.
We peasants are very slow at getting our shit together, but once we do, you just wait. ApocalypticaCaldradia. (and our colour is fuschia not that dirty red color you gave us)
Even if it's a battle involving me on the map?
HCE will sign equally for any two factions that go to war in NA not with HCE!
Fuck Arys and fuck his pesants
We could do something similar to murders xp battles but instead scenario battles or so.ethingXP Battles are boring as fuck IMO. The fun part about Strategus that adds excitement is the chance of losing it all. There's no fun if you can't lose anything. The entire point of playing is building up your shit so someone will eventually try and wipe you and you can protect your shit and then trying to wipe them yourself. Without the game of chance it wouldn't be worth playing.
I agree we shouldn't move to doing just XP battles. Instead some factions other than HCE should grow some balls and attack each other.
bullshit
WOTN declared war on us, we declared war on HOC. Learn your facts nerd
Voncrow is just trying to distract from the reality here. Even with 80% of the map under control LL, Wardens, HoC, Berserks, and the rest of the anti HCE mega block are still not comfortable with fighting a fair war. Prove me wrong if you have the balls.
Not a bad try. But don't forget that Acre fought against the likes of Sandy, Daruvian, Artyem, Relit... You guys though clearly practiced trolls just don't match up.
:lol: Yeah im the one who is losing it...
Ganking people is an achievement to some. I don't think what has been achieved by the Anti HCE block is worth much considering the situation of EU invading and Anti HCE helping them invade. Now the defensive stand by HCE on the other hand has been magnificient. Hopefully there are more fights at Durquba, has been a blast!
For you apparently the achievement is sitting in your cushy fief daring people to attack you because you have no balls to actually attack.Isn't that what the berserks do too?
For you apparently the achievement is sitting in your cushy fief daring people to attack you because you have no balls to actually attack.
Isn't that what the berserks do too?
We do attack and we do send out armies. I am sorry you can't understand it Voncrow. No matter how many times you speak this bs it will never become true. You should probably try a different approach.
Berserks aren't fighting against 80% of the map :lol:
There is not much our armies can do if they are attacked in the field... How often do we send out these armies? Well just as often as we want 8-).
So almost never? Yeah that's cool.At least 5 times in the last week
IMO heres an even war. HoC + WOTN vs LL and Acre. Both sides would have relatively equal merc pools and troop/active commanders.Lol I don't think it would be possible for Dutchy to work with Acre.
Another fun match up would be
LL + WOTN vs HoC + Beserks vs Acre + Occitan in a three way war
Oh yeah when you attack Dirk, that sure was interesting.The blame for the mistaken attack of Dirk belongs to me, as I was new and didn't know who to attack. Can't really use it to try and berate the entire faction somehow. Feel free to berate me though. I love it when other men put me down. Gets me hard as a rock.
As I have said I welcome any new wars! Would be a lot of fun to see someone attack a target other than Acre/HCE.I am only here to suggest an idea. I suggest you contact other strat leaders and talk about this war.
IMO heres an even war. HoC + WOTN vs LL and Acre. Both sides would have relatively equal merc pools and troop/active commanders.
Another fun match up would be
LL + WOTN vs HoC + Beserks vs Acre + Occitan in a three way war
I'm fine with you guys continuing to attack us. I'm trying to point out you guys could also attack each other and create more battles!
What would you do if you ever really did defeat us?
why cant you both just be peaced and end this madness its been to long and all you done is waste armies and do nothingIf by wasting armies you mean using them the only way you can on the strat map while providing the community with epic exp battles, then I don't think anyone knows how not to "waste an army".
why cant you both just be peaced and end this madness its been to long and all you done is waste armies and do nothingDon't think you can preach anything about 'wasting' armies, as you kinda wasted yours a day or two ago.
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If you guys want to give me your stuff and a castle, I can do EXP battles again.EXP battles are boring, just do normal battles!
I think it would be fine if we saw LL/eques vs Wardens/HoC no doubt both sides could field good amounts of armies as they hold most of the map.
You realize that owning fiefs has no impact on your ability to produce troops, right? :rolleyes:
The problem too is that no one knows how strong the others actually are. Land doesn't mean anything, and nor does the amount of faction members as some aren't as active as others.
Who would the captains be? Bryggan and Dutchy for sure IMO but for the third? Probably James or Jona.
If I was a team captain my first pick would be Dutchy or Knightmare hands down lol
James and Bryggan are from the same faction, you need someone like Jona or Thalion, maybe some MB guy.
I don't trust any of the leaders to be free of bias in their decisions anyway, which is why the problem lies in having three factions. That just rewards the faction who is patient and waits for the other two factions to fight it out. Just have two factions with the same amount of recourses.Make me the leader of all three factions(Like Palpatine in the prequels, even though it was only 2 factions) and I can promise i will destroy myself and lose every single battle to myself. If I had the resources of James/Dutchy/Jona/Blackbird I'd attack everyone non-stop lol
I've got almost 600 troops and they're pretty heavily armed, I'm pretty sure I have the most at this point in time.
We must all bow down before the Great King Bronto, for he will be able to wipe us all off the map.
I've got almost 600 troops and they're pretty heavily armed, I'm pretty sure I have the most at this point in time.
We must all bow down before the Great King Bronto, for he will be able to wipe us all off the map.Don't worry Zeus, I'll come in and save us!
We peasants are very slow at getting our shit together, but once we do, you just wait. ApocalypticaCaldradia. (and our colour is fuschia not that dirty red color you gave us)
I find the greys dont give shit about NA interesting the UIF gave up on EU side long before crash due to the total and utter lack of competition.Nah, we wanted to burn some fiefs, the bug happened just few moments before our readiness to attack.
Kalp my good man, come to NA plz. Bring Hetman and all of Grey Order's might. It'll me fun I promise!Bring me normal ping there... impossibru. I manage my fiefs and impose new taxes on my poor peasants :twisted: I think this will not change until they fix battles or new game show up. Sorry :(
You can attack the Steppe or something (sorry Dutchy) and camp all those bitch-cities that HRE hid in last strat and are impossible to capture.
WTF kalp u serious? I made 7 armies ready anc wanted ro do the first attack like 3 hours after the bug xD wanted to wipe sguards and then armin, would have been shit if u were marching in our territory while we were marching out to the forrest xDForests are very interesting places, who knows what is sitting there :wink:
But remember BlackBird, this won't just be your war. You will have allies this time.what you mean, blackbird has needed help for NA the entire invasion, if he didn't have NA mercs he wont have gotten as far as he did so it wasn't really an EU invasion more like NA vs Acre just saying.
Give me war. Give some drama. And give me an enemy who does something. And most importantly, get me a fair roster, and Im totally fine with everything, but I don't really want to fight with people who hate me and who'd give a shit about my orders in strat battles :D
thats a weshouldservebeer mentality for ya...im one of the biggest tryhards ul meet...but i listen to orders, and fallow commands to the tee, its not me that single handily wins battles, its the group, the group is useless without solid commands, and the commander is pointless without solid soldiers that will fallow orders.
I always liked Arowaine's voice and everyone always followed his orders. 8-)
What you guys really need to do is contact this guy for strat battles...
I always thought you were pretty punk rock, Plumbo, but I don't know about that anymore.
On a another note, if you're performing well, there's really no reason to listen to the commander. Like, you don't need battle dad, you're doing fine.
I hate battle dad.
I think the point being made is that's it's just not about one person's KD. Reguardless of whether your KD is doing fine or not, if your in there fighting well with the team and helping the team accomplish its objectives, your not just helping your KD but everyone else. It's just a difference in play style and mentality.
There's really not much the engine allows in terms of tactics other than blobbing together, even if you can get everyone properly coordinated. Strat will always boil down to team deathmatch. The only commands that should be issued is telling people to group up, where to move to, what to target, and telling dumbasses with no awareness when they're overwhelmed and should fall back. That last one is the real problem when it comes to losing battles.
That's a nice way of looking at it, but the simple fact is that high performers win battles. Folks who go negative or even are really just meat puppets, filler to keep the top players from being overwhelmed.
Posted this in another thread, sums up my view on this topic.
TLDR: if u think killers are all that matter and organization and planning and tactics are irrelevant...you are probably a NA player..IE, DUMB AS FUCK.
no. no No NO! godammit u na fucking kids are soo fucking dumb and wrong all the fucking time , like seriously how can u be so fuckin--
oh hi Sandy! how are you? you gud? thats gud. we should drink sometime, whats times gud 4 u?
now that ive expressed my homoerotic love for sandy its time to deal with the rest of u...fucks
RIGHT: 2 kinds of strat chars, vets and noobs, for the educational purpose of this conversation we will refer to the two groups as killers and fodder, and yes both are EQUALLY important.
the objective is to kill more tickets than your enemy or drop flags, youd think you would want ONLY killers, you would be wrong.
i am a killer myself, but knowing how important fodder is, i keep my ears open and fallow orders accordingly...okay, maybe not exactly to the tee as i know wot to do to win now. ie, when people are asked to charge up stairs i typically hold stairs, as i know im much more useful getting massive kills then playing the role of fodder.
without the fodder however i never would have made it to the stairs in the first place...killers go through the breaches, made by fodder, killers flank the lines that are made by fodder, and fodder dont make these lines themselves...they are asked to make it by a commander who sees the situation and adjusts accordingly.
idc how fucking good u think u are, u are nothing without ur teammates and ur teamates are nothing without solid direction and orders...if i was that good i would charge breach alone...i dont cuz im not retarded, i wait for fodder to group up, and i get my kills AROUND the fodder.
at the end of the day, killers get the most kills ya...but they wouldnt get all those kills without the rest of the team setting them up.
this is where the great divide comes in mentality wise...if you have never fought for acre, give it a try. personally i found it confusing, multiple people giving multiple commands, most of the time not very sure of what they are commanding...it didnt matter how good of a killer i was, the commanders were directing the fodder all over the place, and i cannot fight 1vs5's and win everytime. i need some fodder with me. sure u can go solo and catch people unaware and get 12 kills from a good flank run....u wouldnt have caught those people unaware if they werent distracted by the fodder.
this is why i feel so bad for EU \ Blackbird to have to come here. i remember him laughing his ass off in TS, simply cuz i stopped talking over him and said "sorry go ahead" it was maybe thee first time someone stopped talking over him to let him speak...thats how bad his NA mercs were at the start.
he may not remember but i knew him well before he came to NA...i fought for him multiple times defending sieges against the greys.
if u guys think organization, tactics, planning and fallowing orders is pointless, THAN CLEARLY U HAVE NEVER FOUGHT THE GREYS\DRZ
they charge up as one group, 2 groups break off and attack the back and side, while one stays and builds. by the time the back is safe, the group going back is now going on the other side, and the group that was on the side, is now going front, by the time defenders deal with them, the attackers are already going up ladders in another spot...end result is u are so distracted by constantly having to shift players over to the left or back..or wherever they are needed...so distracted you didnt even notice siege tower had gone up...now u are desperately trying to get a mass group to deal with tower...all the while they are pouring up the now undefended back or side. as u had to pull troops from those spots to deal with tower...lets say u clear tower...then then u have to clear back and sides again...all the while they are working on another tower.
CONSTANT ADAPTATION BY BOTH SIDES. thats how the fuck it should be played, why MOST EU players get and understand this...while only a handful of NA ones do, ill never understand.
( in na one groups goes...and then just fucking sits there, u have maybe a handful of volunteers go around back, always the same place...lol how can u build anything? your enemies are shooting the shit outta u camping at the front, and waiting for u at the exact same spot u laddered up last time...its soo dumb...y, fucking tell me y NA has to be so dumb? )
do I have to read that?
well, just saying to make u jelaous :D
The first time I drove 200 km/h was with 16 :D
240 with 18 :D
That's all well and good, but a good player doesn't take on 50 dudes with his amazing blocking skills because that's fucking stupid. Technical skill is only half the battle. A common misconception(really a defense mechanism) made by bad players is that heroes are lone wolves who don't play with the team, when in fact, they play with the team much better the average player. Most top players are expert team players.
A team of 100% killers would outplay any team that is <100% killers. Assuming all killers are equally skilled in this case. Too many hypotheticals, though, what I'm trying to say is that fodder doesn't win battles. I'd rather 2 killers watching my back than 2 fodder.
Personally, I don't care about tactics or being commanded or any of that shit. I want to sit in my own TS and banter with my friends.
well, just saying to make u jelaous :D
The first time I drove 200 km/h was with 16 :D
240 with 18 :D
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I've driven 190 in a ford taurus lol. It was making some disturbing noises. Oh the things we do when we are young...
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