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Title: Which Poles Can I use?
Post by: Ubereem on August 24, 2015, 11:56:21 pm
I want a 4-way attack pole but also hoplite-able. I know of war spear, sveasterstav etc but what else? I just would like to know so I don't have to waste money to test.
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: BlackxBird on August 25, 2015, 12:21:48 am
Erm most op weapons atm (as i think) :
No row, so this is just randomly

Throwing lance
Heavy crossbow
Long bow
Long maul
1H bar mace
Two handed warhammer
Scottish halberd
Elite scimitar
Bec de corbin
Heavy great sword
Spathovaklion

Those are the weapons many players even with a lower skilllevel than the elite use and get on top score, so they gotta be kinda usefull ;) i on my own still prefer the oldschool weapons!! :D
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: Ubereem on August 25, 2015, 05:40:04 am
Doesn't look like anything has changed lmao.
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: AwesomeHail on August 25, 2015, 08:13:41 am
what style do you like to play?
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: LEKIS on August 25, 2015, 10:27:38 am
Loomed armor is more important IMO
Op weapons are op even without l00ms
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: Ubereem on August 25, 2015, 11:07:40 pm
what style do you like to play?
Well I have been pole for long time now so I am thinking of 1h or 2h.

Loomed armor is more important IMO
Op weapons are op even without l00ms
I have some nice MW plate gloves atm. Do I need more?
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: BlackxBird on August 25, 2015, 11:17:06 pm
get +3 body armor and +3 head armor. I got my boots only +1^^ not really necessary to have them.^^
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on August 26, 2015, 02:36:30 am
I'm assuming you want another polearm since you mentioned your poleaxe. Scottish halberd is probably too similar to the poleaxe but it's very nice. You could probably trade poleaxe for it if you didn't want to have both.

Naginata is everything the glaive/long hafted blade wants to be.

Bec de corbin is the OP shitfest flavor of the month wep.

I don't know if you left before they changed this, but some of the 2D polearms (swiss halberd, english bill, long voulge, partisan) now have an alternate mode where they can swing left and right but have reduced damage and/or speed.

I have svaerdstav +3 and like it. It's very versatile - can be swung 4 directions, can stab with a shield, can stab on horseback. and It doesn't have shitty stab damage or reach either. It's a nice compromise between a stabby polearm and a swingy polearm. I loomed it because I really like the "winged spear" shape it has. Shit is literally a sword on a stick.

Spear and boar spear are 1 slot now, and boar spear got rebalanced to 24p on swings and stabs at +0. Interesting but probably not what you're looking for (?)
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: BlackxBird on August 26, 2015, 04:17:10 pm
my faourite polearms are the:

Scottish Halberd (mix out of all the poleaxes. Compared to the others it is actually better)
Poleaxe (Just legend)
Spetum (gay stabby shit which can be used in 1 vs 1 too!)
Long Maul (Knock down, crush thourgh and ghost range. What else do u want? :D )
Long Voulge (S-key for the win!)
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: pepejul on August 26, 2015, 05:09:58 pm
Light glaive is perfect for agi build.

Svaerdstav is better than spetum, corseque ou partisan and it's sheatable !

Bec is short but very usefull

GLB is so cutty I love it vs archers  tchak tchak !

You can try +3 poles in PEPE'S clan armurery for free http://c-rpg.net/?page=clan
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: StonedSteel on August 26, 2015, 06:28:14 pm
BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I WANT THAT POLEAXE!!!

1.5 mill?

MOAH>?
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: pepejul on August 26, 2015, 06:46:39 pm
WICH ONE ?

GERMAN ???

I GOT ONE !!!
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: StonedSteel on August 26, 2015, 06:49:12 pm
NO PEPE!!!

THE OTHER ONE!!!

NOT THE ELEGANT!!!

THE REGULAR ONE!!!

U HAS IT?

U SELL IT?

PEPE!!!

HELP ME BUY POLEAXE!!!!

I BELIEVE IN U PEPE U CAN DO THIS!!! I KNOW U CAN!!!

GODSPEED PEPE!!!

BELIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE!!!
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: AwesomeHail on August 26, 2015, 09:32:43 pm
dont do it pepe 1.5m is nothing for a poleaxe!1!!!1!!
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: pepejul on August 26, 2015, 10:44:15 pm
OMG ! I DON'"T KNOW WHAT TO DO NOW !!!


I LOOM POLEAXE ?

I BUY ONE ?

I DO NOTHING ?

HELP ME !!!
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: BlackxBird on August 26, 2015, 10:46:59 pm
turn in circles and buy cats on ebay.
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: Ubereem on August 27, 2015, 01:20:06 am
I'm assuming you want another polearm since you mentioned your poleaxe. Scottish halberd is probably too similar to the poleaxe but it's very nice. You could probably trade poleaxe for it if you didn't want to have both.

Naginata is everything the glaive/long hafted blade wants to be.

Bec de corbin is the OP shitfest flavor of the month wep.

I don't know if you left before they changed this, but some of the 2D polearms (swiss halberd, english bill, long voulge, partisan) now have an alternate mode where they can swing left and right but have reduced damage and/or speed.

I have svaerdstav +3 and like it. It's very versatile - can be swung 4 directions, can stab with a shield, can stab on horseback. and It doesn't have shitty stab damage or reach either. It's a nice compromise between a stabby polearm and a swingy polearm. I loomed it because I really like the "winged spear" shape it has. Shit is literally a sword on a stick.

Spear and boar spear are 1 slot now, and boar spear got rebalanced to 24p on swings and stabs at +0. Interesting but probably not what you're looking for (?)

What type of build would I need for shielder, svaerdstav combo? I definitely want to put my shield on my back a lot.

BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I WANT THAT POLEAXE!!!

1.5 mill?

MOAH>?
Sup man I was in that guild years ago. I will trade you for sure. Got a svaesterav and some gold? Actually idk them stats look pretty weak.
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: AwesomeHail on August 27, 2015, 09:49:23 pm
don't go for cash only trades, inflation is here :)

but your build depends on your current level. 18.24 seems solid for shield/svaerdstav but 18/27 sure is more fun with the speed :)
21/21 is also fine I guess, but svaerdstav is quite a spammy wep
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: BlackxBird on August 28, 2015, 12:40:12 am
I went for 21 21 as hoplite and pretty much enjoyed the time playing it!
Title: Re: I'm back with looms!
Post by: Ubereem on August 29, 2015, 01:53:53 am
don't go for cash only trades, inflation is here :)

but your build depends on your current level. 18.24 seems solid for shield/svaerdstav but 18/27 sure is more fun with the speed :)
21/21 is also fine I guess, but svaerdstav is quite a spammy wep
Just so I don't have to buy all these weapons to test out which poles besides the svaerdstav can I use in the same fashion with shield but also 4 way attack? Obviously I know the short spears and such. I think I had MW war spear at one time. Seemed too short for hoplite though.
Title: Re: Which Poles Can I use?
Post by: Voncrow on September 01, 2015, 04:20:36 pm
Boar Spear and Spear are strong alternatives to the War Spear. Both being shorter but faster with Boarspear having pierce swings that can hurt with their spead. While the Spear has a stronger bite on the stab but weaker blunt side swings. Less popular but still hoplite-able weapons are all staffs and the Practice lance. They are usually faster but being blunt makes them disadvantaged usually as a stab only weapon, yet still possible and devastating when you put the shield away. There is the double sided Lance that is in the same position as the spear. Those are your main choices for 4d weapons you can hoplite with.
Title: Re: Which Poles Can I use?
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on September 01, 2015, 06:17:38 pm
Boar Spear and Spear are strong alternatives to the War Spear. Both being shorter but faster with Boarspear having pierce swings that can hurt with their spead. While the Spear has a stronger bite on the stab but weaker blunt side swings. Less popular but still hoplite-able weapons are all staffs and the Practice lance. They are usually faster but being blunt makes them disadvantaged usually as a stab only weapon, yet still possible and devastating when you put the shield away. There is the double sided Lance that is in the same position as the spear. Those are your main choices for 4d weapons you can hoplite with.

The Spear has pierce on the swings, unless they changed it since I gave a fuck last. You can pull some absolutely crazy stabs and swings with the spear; I actually find it at least staggers the other guy with minimal damage when you'd expect it to glance.

For a hoplite weapon, I can't attest to its effectiveness so much. As simple 4d, I find it very very good. It does require an aggressive, silly playstyle though. Lucky for me!
Title: Re: Which Poles Can I use?
Post by: njames89 on September 01, 2015, 06:37:07 pm
It does require an aggressive, silly playstyle though. Lucky for me!

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Title: Re: Which Poles Can I use?
Post by: Voncrow on September 01, 2015, 07:07:58 pm
Just checks Spear does do pierce swings
Boar Spear
Swing: 24p
stab: 24p
Spear
swing: 20p
stab: 28p

So if you are mainly stabby stabby hoplite man you probably want the spear out of these two choices unless you go 4d mode about 50% of the time in combat then you should go boar spear. Then again this is just among these two choices.
Title: Re: Which Poles Can I use?
Post by: Zeus_ on September 02, 2015, 05:58:42 am
i didnt bother reading the other recommendations, but the "double sided lance" isnt too bad, never really used it with a shield, but i feel it get over looked, its also couchable if you are cav.
Title: Re: Which Poles Can I use?
Post by: owens on September 02, 2015, 12:34:48 pm
The red tassel spear is generally over looked. It is an excellent hipster weapon.
If you are dedicated to hopliting with a 4d polearm consider  war spear, red tassel, svaerstav, spear, boar spear, esatoc, mil scythe and short spear. In this order. Other weapons to consider are throwing lance, longsword (can be hoplited),  bastard sword (can be hoplited).


special mentions
*practice lance
*goedendag
*iron staff
*double sided lance
Title: Re: Which Poles Can I use?
Post by: Voncrow on September 02, 2015, 06:24:10 pm
Red Tassel Spear is practically the same thing as the war spear so I didn't bother mentioning it.
Title: Re: Which Poles Can I use?
Post by: Sharpe on September 02, 2015, 11:48:43 pm
Be a man use the ashwood.
Title: Re: Which Poles Can I use?
Post by: BlackxBird on September 03, 2015, 12:37:36 am
My favourite was ashwood too, cuz it is pretty good without the shield in a 1vs1 too!
Title: Re: Which Poles Can I use?
Post by: Ubereem on September 03, 2015, 02:05:29 am
That boar spear pierce damage looking mighty tasty. I'd go ashwood but don't need MW for that. Plus if I'm going up and down then I want Halberd or American Bill. I used to rektededed long voulge but they took it away.
Title: Re: Which Poles Can I use?
Post by: Utrakil on September 06, 2015, 03:05:21 pm
Just so I don't have to buy all these weapons to test out which poles besides the svaerdstav can I use in the same fashion with shield but also 4 way attack? Obviously I know the short spears and such. I think I had MW war spear at one time. Seemed too short for hoplite though.
here is a list  ( i hope still complete) of all 2directional polearms.
So all the others are 4 directional.
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