Other Games => ... and all the other things floating around out there => Topic started by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2015, 07:20:45 pm
Title: Mafia 3 (BlackPowerEdition) (SmokeWeedEdition) (HipHopEdition) (DrakeEdition)
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2015, 07:20:45 pm
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Post by: Teeth on August 05, 2015, 08:38:27 pm
Didn't know that the Italian mob took up positive discrimination in 1963.
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Post by: Molly on August 05, 2015, 09:02:47 pm
Those 4 people... does that mean we can maybe create our own family. Like Italian mob, Redneck inbreds, Black Panthers, Hardcore Lesbians? That would be cool...
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Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2015, 09:06:19 pm
Those 4 people... does that mean we can maybe create our own family. Like Italian mob, Redneck inbreds, Black Panthers, Hardcore Lesbians? That would be cool...
Apparently they will act as lieutenants for your new gang and give you special abilities (sounds like GTA IV with enough friendliness towards your friends you got special stuff from them)
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Post by: Casimir on August 05, 2015, 09:21:47 pm
I enjoyed Mafia 2 because it was about the real mob, they should have made this in a casino/goodfellas setting not in New Orleans.
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Post by: IR_Kuoin on August 05, 2015, 09:42:12 pm
B-but what happens to Joe...? :cry:
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Post by: Christo on August 05, 2015, 09:50:45 pm
He was fucking annoying and always got Vito in trouble.
Then he got whacked.
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Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2015, 11:10:47 pm
Atleast you won't have Czech ppl spamming in the comments section on Youtube Mafia 3 videos about how Italian Americans speaking Czech sounds so much better than them speaking in English.
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Post by: Ujin on August 06, 2015, 09:04:15 am
I enjoyed Mafia 2 because it was about the real mob, they should have made this in a casino/goodfellas setting not in New Orleans.
Yes yes and another yes with a cherry on top..
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Post by: IR_Kuoin on August 06, 2015, 10:00:33 pm
Not a whole lot of gameplay sadly.
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Post by: Daunt_Flockula on August 06, 2015, 10:08:22 pm
I played Mafia II at a time when I had nothing else left to play. I had little hope about the experience I would get, because I am not into games with guns in them and mafia wasn't an interesting theme for me either. Well, I was in for a surprise. I liked it so damn much.
It turned out to be another one of those rare games where I was willing to follow the story and listen to all dialogues. The way the game depicted a mafia henchman's life was quite exquisite in that it was genuine. Hell, I still remember starting every new day, waking up to the damn fucking phone and finding myself in god knows what kind of dipshit this time. I wanted to maul the phone and crush it into bits, though that would hardly solve any problems. Throughout the time I played the game, it felt like I was Vito myself. I felt the pain, neverending restlessness and uphill struggle.
Gawd it was good. I am down for having just a similar experience, not even an improved version. Here is hoping that they won't fail to deliver.
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Post by: Leshma on August 08, 2015, 04:12:44 pm
Mafia is a classic, Mafia II not so much but it is very decent game. This however, doesn't look good. Main problem is that it looks to have same bland gameplay like every other generic TPS crap they pop out regularly. Story seems intriguing, don't have anything against mixed race mobster but that gameplay... first Mafia was top notch in that department and came out at least 5 years before its time.
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Post by: LordBerenger on August 08, 2015, 07:03:09 pm
Mafia is a classic, Mafia II not so much but it is very decent game. This however, doesn't look good. Main problem is that it looks to have same bland gameplay like every other generic TPS crap they pop out regularly. Story seems intriguing, don't have anything against mixed race mobster but that gameplay... first Mafia was top notch in that department and came out at least 5 years before its time.
Mafia 1 had a decent-good story. But the music wasn't as good as the 2nd one. And the gameplay wasn't nearly as good as the 2nd one either. And most importantly. Mafia 1 felt like a driving game where driving was the main focus. The driving was annoying as well since you had to keep a check on the speed limit so the cops wouldn't fine you. A nice system but in a game where there's tons of driving it's a bit annoying than challenging. If you're playing a game where you play as the mafia you'd rather have more up close action than driving around like the taxi driver you used to be.
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Post by: Teeth on August 08, 2015, 08:21:12 pm
I don't think I have ever encountered anyone who displays poor taste as consistently as LordBerenger
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Post by: Leshma on August 08, 2015, 09:05:46 pm
Mafia 1 had a decent-good story. But the music wasn't as good as the 2nd one. And the gameplay wasn't nearly as good as the 2nd one either. And most importantly. Mafia 1 felt like a driving game where driving was the main focus. The driving was annoying as well since you had to keep a check on the speed limit so the cops wouldn't fine you. A nice system but in a game where there's tons of driving it's a bit annoying than challenging. If you're playing a game where you play as the mafia you'd rather have more up close action than driving around like the taxi driver you used to be.
Berenger, it is 30s in America. Not 2015 in some Mexican state controlled by cartels. They smuggle alcohol and they are trying to keep it down, not alert the police on every corner. There is a difference when you are on your own turf, where you call the shots and control the police and when you are on a mission somewhere you can be busted by cops and endanger the mission. There are both those types of missions in first Mafia, as game progresses you can a lit more of those action in your face type of missions.
This Mafia 3 currently has some hilarious car explosion mechanic. Basically all you have to do is to bump any car and it will explode. Dunno what they were thinking...
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Post by: LordBerenger on August 08, 2015, 09:31:57 pm
Berenger, it is 30s in America. Not 2015 in some Mexican state controlled by cartels. They smuggle alcohol and they are trying to keep it down, not alert the police on every corner. There is a difference when you are on your own turf, where you call the shots and control the police and when you are on a mission somewhere you can be busted by cops and endanger the mission. There are both those types of missions in first Mafia, as game progresses you can a lit more of those action in your face type of missions.
This Mafia 3 currently has some hilarious car explosion mechanic. Basically all you have to do is to bump any car and it will explode. Dunno what they were thinking...
You can apply that for every game where you're a criminal. The system is okay. But having it in a game with a shit ton of driving is annoying.
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Post by: Christo on August 08, 2015, 09:54:41 pm
Have you all forgotten what Angelo's profession was before he became a made man?
Title: Re: Mafia 3 (BlackPowerEdition) (SmokeWeedEdition) (HipHopEdition) (DrakeEdition)
Post by: LordBerenger on August 08, 2015, 11:50:11 pm
Mafia 1 had a decent-good story. But the music wasn't as good as the 2nd one. And the gameplay wasn't nearly as good as the 2nd one either. And most importantly. Mafia 1 felt like a driving game where driving was the main focus. The driving was annoying as well since you had to keep a check on the speed limit so the cops wouldn't fine you. A nice system but in a game where there's tons of driving it's a bit annoying than challenging. If you're playing a game where you play as the mafia you'd rather have more up close action than driving around like the taxi driver you used to be.
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Post by: Kafein on August 09, 2015, 01:09:28 am
I'm disappointed that they didn't stick with the 50s setting.
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Post by: Christo on August 09, 2015, 01:14:47 am
Well Berengerrrrr, blame the devs for that one.
But there is reasoning behind it. Would you put a full-time driver new to this whole gang thing on the frontlines immediately? Especially if he has talent.. yeah, not.
I know it's a game and all that, but things like this is what made Mafia so good.
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Post by: LordBerenger on August 09, 2015, 01:21:49 am
But there is reasoning behind it. Would you put a full-time driver new to this whole gang thing on the frontlines immediately? Especially if he has talent.. yeah, not.
I know it's a game and all that, but things like this is what made Mafia so good.
Gd point but still. Vito in Mafia 2 wasn't a taxi driver yet I see some ppl complaining about it not being like Mafia 1.
Anyhow. Too busy talking to biased Czech kids on Youtube who thinks Italian-American mobsters living in the US should speak Czech ''because it sounds so much better than the English dubbing''
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Post by: Christo on August 09, 2015, 01:27:02 am
lol
is that a common opinion? :mrgreen:
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Post by: LordBerenger on August 09, 2015, 01:54:59 am
Czech Kid: ''Huehue English dubbing so bad, Czech sounds so much better''
And yeah plenty of them. Those Czechs must be high. Just listen to it.
It gave me cancer. Truly sounds like Italian American mafia? Lel
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Post by: Kafein on August 09, 2015, 02:14:39 am
Czech is cancerlanguage
source: only Czech person I know.
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Post by: Christo on August 09, 2015, 02:17:16 am
This reminds me of the time I heard czech voiceover on a world of tanks video (or at least I think it was czech)
Now not to trash the language, but it sounded so out of place ridiculous :D
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Post by: Casimir on August 09, 2015, 02:46:06 am
I am with Berenger on this, speeding fines in Mafia 1 did not make for a better game play experience and overall it wasnt as good as Mafia 2. 2 was better because it gave a more open and well rounded experience of playing as a mobster in, IMO, a better setting for a mobster. I would say that a Mafia franchise game should be about creating a richly crafted GTA style game in an appropriate time setting, not about making people drive at 20MPG, on the wrong side of the road, stopping at every red light in case an invisible policeman slaps you with a bullshit fine. I want to be a goodfella, a wiseguy, I want to be made part of the family so I can fuck with people and they don't fuck with me, that is surely what 'Mafia' should be about?
As I said earlier the setting for this one is stupid and they overlooked some really good settings for an awesome mob based video game, Casino LA, Goodfellas Brooklyn, or Scarface Cuba. That said I do like the look of the idea of having your own mobster 'family' and if the driving/shooting mechanics looks like they will make for enjoyable game play I will most certainly pick this one up.
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Post by: Leshma on August 09, 2015, 04:39:14 pm
You were 9 years old when that game came out. If you played it when it was few years old game, I can understand your view. Just like I can understand Berenger.
I was already in high school and previously seen Godfather series and Goodfellas and played Grand Theft Auto, Grand Theft Auto 2 and Grand Theft Auto 3. I was blown away with Mafia and liked every part of it.
You punks weren't ready for it, that's all.
Or you and Berenger are actually full of shit and never played Mafia but heard it is legendary game, then played Mafia II and share this opinion:
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2 was better because it gave a more open and well rounded experience of playing as a mobster in
Makes perfect sense now.
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Post by: IR_Kuoin on August 09, 2015, 04:47:38 pm
Are you guys really having this discussion?
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Post by: Leshma on August 09, 2015, 04:49:13 pm
I'm bored, haven't been there for full week so I'm kinda spamming right now :mrgreen:
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Post by: Laufknoten on August 09, 2015, 05:21:40 pm
No thanks. In a Mafia game I want to play an italian mobster not Malcolm X. Still gonna pirate it and see if the driving mechanics are any good.
Also Mafia > Mafia 2.
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Post by: Leshma on August 09, 2015, 06:21:57 pm
I would like to play political genre story driven TPS where main protagonist would be Patrice Lumumba, mainly because of awesome discussion such game would spark with our friend Kafein and his compatriots.
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Post by: Casimir on August 09, 2015, 06:46:52 pm
You were 9 years old when that game came out. If you played it when it was few years old game, I can understand your view. Just like I can understand Berenger.
I was already in high school and previously seen Godfather series and Goodfellas and played Grand Theft Auto, Grand Theft Auto 2 and Grand Theft Auto 3. I was blown away with Mafia and liked every part of it.
You punks weren't ready for it, that's all.
Or you and Berenger are actually full of shit and never played Mafia but heard it is legendary game, then played Mafia II and share this opinion:
Makes perfect sense now.
No i didn't play it on release, I do have the disk still lying around and played it only a few years ago. I'm sure it was very cutting edge when it released but I honestly don't give a shit, comparing the two games without any prior considerations (which is what happened when I played them) I enjoyed 2 more for gameplay and mechanics and lost heaven for characters. Shock horror leshma but your personal experience and opinion ain't gospel, shit it's like people have their own tastes and preferences so get off your high horse.
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Post by: LordBerenger on August 09, 2015, 07:21:10 pm
I would like to play political genre story driven TPS where main protagonist would be Patrice Lumumba, mainly because of awesome discussion such game would spark with our friend Kafein and his compatriots.
I've actually played it tho. Mafia 2, Godfather 1 and kinda GTA 3 (if you wanna count it as a Mafia game) are the best Mafia centered games however. Liberty City Stories wasn't that bad either.
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Post by: Siiem on August 14, 2015, 06:54:34 pm
I'm not looking forward to do this at all. A game called MAFIA should be about italian mafia or Sicilian mafia.
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Post by: Kafein on August 16, 2015, 11:38:14 pm
I would like to play political genre story driven TPS where main protagonist would be Patrice Lumumba, mainly because of awesome discussion such game would spark with our friend Kafein and his compatriots.
That would be epic.
I'm afraid we're going to have to wait for real games to be made in Africa first, and that's not happening for another 30 years at the very least.
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Post by: Leshma on August 17, 2015, 06:38:27 pm
Them animals, too busy fighting each other to start making video games. Boudewijn told them, do not forget that we are who made your life better. Before we came to your land, you were just savage brutes. They didn't listen...
Believe it or not, but there are economies in Africa that are big enough to stop worrying about basic stuff and actually encourage some people to start making video games. Such as economies of Nigeria and Kenya. They do not develop for desktop yet, but there are African mobile games with African themes for African man.
Notice I didn't mention South Africa, too many occupants still living down there to consider it true African country.
Belgians and Dutch have an edge compared to British. While British didn't (manage to) kill their adversary, Dutch kept their in prison for half a century and finally you beautiful people not only killed your state enemy number one, but also dissolved his corpse in sulfuric acid, symbolically erasing his existence. Very efficient.
What could be of glorious Leopoldville today, if one savage were stopped before he raised his voice. Opportunity wasted.
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Post by: Vibe on August 17, 2015, 06:41:46 pm
Believe it or not, but there are economies in Africa that are big enough to stop worrying about basic stuff and actually encourage some people to start making video games. Such as economies of Nigeria and Kenya. They do not develop for desktop yet, but there are African mobile games with African themes for African man.
Belgians and Dutch have an edge compared to British. While British didn't (manage to) kill their adversary, Dutch kept their in prison for half a century and finally you beautiful people not only killed your state enemy number one, but also dissolved his corpse in sulfuric acid, symbolically erasing his existence. Very efficient.
Belgium has the record for worst African colonial atrocities, up there with Germany's little experiments in East Africa and France's careful handling of ground to air missiles much later. This glorious heritage still exists, my grandparents inherited a couple of ivory statues from one of my ancestors who was tax collector in Congo back then. Sounds like a very nice person.
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Post by: Angantyr on August 18, 2015, 11:41:25 am
For anyone interested, I can recommend Adam Hochshild's 'King Leopold's Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror and Heroism in Colonial Africa' (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/347610.King_Leopold_s_Ghost), it's probably the best book on Belgian Congo.
Fast forward to current affairs; the US is actually heavily involved in the Congo as we speak.
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Post by: Leshma on August 18, 2015, 06:08:58 pm
USA has been involved in Congo ever since Lumumba's execution. I don't blame Belgium, every nation has skeletons in the closet. Only thing that irks me about Belgium and western Europe in general is hypocrisy. Holding to some higher standard, claiming being more humane than other countries makes no sense when every glorious monument you come across has a story of spilled blood and oppression behind it.
Also mass media is at fault. For example, today almost every person on this planet sees Idi Amin as being Satan during his reign. While that isn't far away from truth, his predecessor who is also his successor has committed same if not worse crimes against humanity (was in power for longer period). Congolese military general who is responsible for Lumumba's death, who later became absolute ruler and dictator of Zaire (he even changed the name of his country) was the same. But people have seen that movie with Whitaker and therefore have heard only of Idi Amin.
Central African dictators have something in common. They had support from western world (United States) due to them taking anti communist state. Just shows how fucked up of a country USA truly is, in the past all you had to do is to say you hate commies and you'll be allowed to the whatever the fuck you want to your own countrymen in name of "freedom"...
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Post by: LordBerenger on August 18, 2015, 09:42:13 pm
How a Mafia 3 thread turned into a thread about Congo and racist Eurotrash colonists of the past.....lel
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Post by: Kafein on August 18, 2015, 10:05:08 pm
USA has been involved in Congo ever since Lumumba's execution. I don't blame Belgium, every nation has skeletons in the closet. Only thing that irks me about Belgium and western Europe in general is hypocrisy. Holding to some higher standard, claiming being more humane than other countries makes no sense when every glorious monument you come across has a story of spilled blood and oppression behind it.
I don't think that's true to be honest, except when it hits way too close to home (can't help but to mention France's nuclear testing program). We take a honest look at 19th/early 20th century history, even on cable news. Try that in Turkey. And it stays true that Western European countries rank among the first when it comes to human rights today (again, Turkey lol).
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Post by: Leshma on August 18, 2015, 10:28:10 pm
How a Mafia 3 thread turned into a thread about Congo and racist Eurotrash colonists of the past.....lel
Blame Take2 and their choice to create mixed race protagonist for new Mafia game. If they stayed with Tony, Vinnie or Frankie we wouldn't have this discussion.