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Title: 250 man server
Post by: Flawless on May 25, 2011, 05:03:09 pm
I just noticed the Convictgaming server is up. AND it says it supports 250 people. wow. Is it currently up and running as a crpg server?
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Wildling on May 25, 2011, 10:28:05 pm
250 ....


Daayuuuum :D
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Seawied on May 25, 2011, 10:40:38 pm
I only have one question...


Why?
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 25, 2011, 10:42:28 pm
I only have one question...


Why?


Why not?

As to why, because it would be cool to see, as well as cutting down on the overall level of luck for teams winning.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Seawied on May 25, 2011, 11:19:15 pm

Why not?


Good rebuttal!  :lol:
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: krauth on May 26, 2011, 12:29:49 am
I would play it, that would be pretty intense.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Hyroshi on May 26, 2011, 02:43:56 am
I would play it, that would be pretty intense.

This!
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Kobold_Kommando on May 26, 2011, 02:55:00 am
Long as it could handle the load, that would be completely epic. I haven't been in a match anywhere 200 players since I stopped playing Native. Those were some epic Siege matches.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Earthdforce on May 26, 2011, 02:59:14 am
I just noticed the Convictgaming server is up. AND it says it supports 250 people. wow. Is it currently up and running as a crpg server?
Yeah, I've been talking to Violent Crimes, the owner of CvG, and he's been working on getting it connected since about the .220 patch. As of right now it's not connected, but if I remember correctly it's in NYC and the specs on it are INSANE!
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Digglez on May 26, 2011, 03:12:31 am
Its kinda funny how non-MMO's are sporting games with the ability to have larger fights than nearly all MMO's.  250 sounds pretty awesome.  I look forward to giving it a try, its gunna be a blast of chaotic killing and rampage!

A few concerns though...
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: kongxinga on May 26, 2011, 03:35:36 am
Its kinda funny how non-MMO's are sporting games with the ability to have larger fights than nearly all MMO's.  250 sounds pretty awesome.  I look forward to giving it a try, its gunna be a blast of chaotic killing and rampage!

A few concerns though...
  • Going to need big maps
  • Going to need alot of good admins to keep asshats in line

Big maps are a must. Just thinking of all those people in one of those cramped roof camp city fest maps makes me cringe. Might be a good place to finally dust off large random plains map to good effect.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 26, 2011, 03:41:42 am
Big maps are a must. Just thinking of all those people in one of those cramped roof camp city fest maps makes me cringe. Might be a good place to finally dust off large random plains map to good effect.

I want to see the classic "Arena" map (the small circle one) with 250 men, just imagine!
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: ViolentCrimes on May 26, 2011, 08:20:23 am
What would be a good map rotation for the server do you guys think.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Digglez on May 26, 2011, 08:46:51 am
What would be a good map rotation for the server do you guys think.

#str_blank_76 Tsardom_Castle
#str_blank_81 Greipenfurt_Castle
#str_blank_83 Jammadi_Castle
Mahdaar
Foothold

+ the large open one with the 3 story gatehouse with open part to drop down into, that the gate control is about 20ft from flag.  Dunno the name of it.  people used to use 'drop down ladders' thru the gate so they could land on when they jumped down to gate control.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Gorath on May 26, 2011, 09:27:18 am
the lag will blot out the sun.  hope you don't plan on manual blocking.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Spawny on May 26, 2011, 10:03:11 am
Reminds me of the 220 slots the Pecores used to have.

Pretty epic imo, especially since it full. Downside was that it was a stress test or something, so there was "some" lag XD
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: NuberT on May 26, 2011, 11:00:35 am
played a 222 men M&M line battle was epic, but laggy..
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: ViolentCrimes on May 26, 2011, 12:05:23 pm
Doubt it will lag that much its a dual quadcore server box.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: cmp on May 26, 2011, 12:06:37 pm
Doubt it will lag that much its a dual quadcore server box.

The dedicated server does all the heavy processing on one core anyway.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Corwin on May 26, 2011, 12:12:49 pm
played a 222 men M&M line battle was epic, but laggy..
Me too. It was great, but I hear lot of pple had problems with lag.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Meow on May 26, 2011, 12:20:41 pm
connected  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Earthdforce on May 26, 2011, 12:21:39 pm
connected  :mrgreen:
Yush!
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Nindur on May 26, 2011, 12:31:08 pm
Best of luck
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Digglez on June 13, 2011, 07:15:19 am
this is really your time to shine with the NA Siege server having performance issues.

I just connected to try out the server before I would suggest people leave NA siege to try your box out...and its not even a siege map thats running.

If you expect people to play on your server, gotta set it up right.

Also I would suggest running a small rotation of smaller maps to encourage small groups of players to start using your server. 

Its a shame we dont have enough crpg players to fill them both.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: SkyrayFox on June 13, 2011, 12:18:23 pm
Never played any real battles on this server, every time we try to populate it people just quit before we get past 10+ players. Shame.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Penitent on June 13, 2011, 11:09:03 pm
Siege would be cool.  Battle would suck with that many ppl.  Can you imagine being one of the first to die have having to wait for all the others, on a huge map?

Ugh...
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: ManOfWar on June 13, 2011, 11:49:10 pm
Yeah, I've been talking to Violent Crimes, the owner of CvG, and he's been working on getting it connected since about the .220 patch. As of right now it's not connected, but if I remember correctly it's in NYC and the specs on it are INSANE!

WAIT... ITS NA!!!
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: tankmen on June 13, 2011, 11:56:05 pm
should try filling it up this weekend or something
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Earthdforce on June 14, 2011, 12:20:10 am
this is really your time to shine with the NA Siege server having performance issues.

I just connected to try out the server before I would suggest people leave NA siege to try your box out...and its not even a siege map thats running.

If you expect people to play on your server, gotta set it up right.

Also I would suggest running a small rotation of smaller maps to encourage small groups of players to start using your server. 

Its a shame we dont have enough crpg players to fill them both.
Hey, how about you help out the owner instead of telling him what to do? If you can't tell, he's not exactly an experienced cRPG veteran.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Digglez on June 14, 2011, 12:25:37 am
Hey, how about you help out the owner instead of telling him what to do? If you can't tell, he's not exactly an experienced cRPG veteran.

I did just help him, telling him his server is misconfigured.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Ecko on June 14, 2011, 05:34:59 am
We tested long ago if the mod would work well with that many players. The maps arn't made for it for one, and mount and blade isn't either.

Hell back in the day i only had one server with that many slots, and after a while people couldn't handle that many players connected. The box was fine.


@Meow-Not that this has anything to do with CvG, but are you just gonna give anyone the right to host a server now? Sure love seeing these 10 man servers....what a waste
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Cepeshi on June 14, 2011, 07:02:04 am
well, there is given set of rules which you have to agree to in order to get connected, and tbh., the more servers, the better, even if small ones, on which the clans might practise some teamwork and such...anyways nice to see how many ppl are online recently, yesterday there were 115 ppl on Pecores and 107 on EU1, freaking awesome!

but i think 250slot server would burn the wooden pcs some of these guys play on :P
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Ecko on June 14, 2011, 07:16:43 am
I hate to be a jerk, but don't you think you should research NA server population before commenting on the way things should be? During peak hours there are a max 200 people...split between 6-8 servers with more than 60 slots.

Now don't get me wrong, there's always people in mine and for that I'm greatfull...its the times that arnt peak hours and all servers suffer because everyone has their own.

There needs to be a limit.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Cyclopsided on June 14, 2011, 07:37:18 am
I hate to be a jerk, but don't you think you should research NA server population before commenting on the way things should be? During peak hours there are a max 200 people...split between 6-8 servers with more than 60 slots.

Now don't get me wrong, there's always people in mine and for that I'm greatfull...its the times that arnt peak hours and all servers suffer because everyone has their own.

There needs to be a limit.
I found the problem being the opposite for quite some time, we had too few servers and they would all be full and laggy. I can't wait for the ATS server boxes to stop lagging so I can enjoy them again...
Really, the server lag is omnipresent. It is bad. Id on't know how anyone plays on the NA siege, it is always full and always sooo laggy. Blocks don't happen, attacks end up holding when you click, etc.
I noticed NA peak count during weekends well over 300 on the combined servers a few times.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Snatch on June 14, 2011, 10:00:31 am
I kinda agree with ecko. 250 player server would be fucking amazing to play on. I remember the 200 man EU server from several months go, and it was great. But the NA community atm is rather small. I guess ATS could shut down their siege server since their server is over worked it seems. But their siege server is rarely completely filled.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Ecko on June 14, 2011, 06:24:48 pm
I found the problem being the opposite for quite some time, we had too few servers and they would all be full and laggy. I can't wait for the ATS server boxes to stop lagging so I can enjoy them again...
Really, the server lag is omnipresent. It is bad. Id on't know how anyone plays on the NA siege, it is always full and always sooo laggy. Blocks don't happen, attacks end up holding when you click, etc.
I noticed NA peak count during weekends well over 300 on the combined servers a few times.

I've been asking of lag for the last 5 days. Players have reported it dropped almost back to normal since we removed the dtv server. Maybe you should try it again.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Huey Newton on June 14, 2011, 06:29:09 pm
ecko remember when there was the 200 server for that weekend of short period of time?
it lagged like a mother but damn were the bridge maps fun hahah
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Ecko on June 14, 2011, 06:34:53 pm
ecko remember when there was the 200 server for that weekend of short period of time?
it lagged like a mother but damn were the bridge maps fun hahah

stress tested for 3 days...i think eu tried too. Ask some of the oldies. It happened.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Dexxtaa on June 14, 2011, 08:43:45 pm
the lag will blot out the sun.  hope you don't plan on manual blocking.

The new superservers on EU are up, is that one of them though ? That'd be sick as.

stress tested for 3 days...i think eu tried too. Ask some of the oldies. It happened.

Should start thinking of a super server~!
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Glyph on June 14, 2011, 08:55:31 pm
maybe it would be an idea to support a 200 men server and some small ones that can only hold 64 men and one for 32. than you would still hjave the oppertiunety to play small but also have(real) great fun!
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: SkyrayFox on June 14, 2011, 09:48:28 pm
There was a 200 man server (Based in Germany if I'm right) back before upkeep was even introduced. Worked perfectly back then so I don't see why it would lag now.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Ecko on June 15, 2011, 06:14:16 am
maybe it would be an idea to support a 200 men server and some small ones that can only hold 64 men and one for 32. than you would still hjave the oppertiunety to play small but also have(real) great fun!

There was a 200 man server (Based in Germany if I'm right) back before upkeep was even introduced. Worked perfectly back then so I don't see why it would lag now.

You are both getting EU mixed up with NA. A 200 man server with more than one 64 and one 32 would not even get close to being full unless there was a steam sale.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Malaclypse on June 21, 2011, 02:49:05 am
So what's the deal with this server? Is it connected to the DB yet? I sit in it sometimes and wait, hoping others will get sick of the lag on the current siege box and give it a try, but nobody ever comes.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Flawless on June 23, 2011, 05:46:25 am
So, we should populate this server, it seems to be up on the data base
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Miley on June 23, 2011, 06:09:36 am
The experience and gold is connected, and it works. So you should get it if you play on that server. It's a shame the admins and players who run the server are so new to this game they don't even know what's going on though.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Glyph on June 23, 2011, 08:30:18 am
is it 200 men?
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Earthdforce on June 23, 2011, 08:41:36 am
The experience and gold is connected, and it works. So you should get it if you play on that server. It's a shame the admins and players who run the server are so new to this game they don't even know what's going on though.
Would you like the owner's steam? Ask me ;)
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Glyph on June 23, 2011, 08:54:56 am
there is a 250 men server but it's siege. mehhh
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Earthdforce on June 23, 2011, 08:57:03 am
That's what we've been talking about. I think it's cRPG_ConvictGaming_Siege or something like that
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Glyph on June 23, 2011, 09:39:06 am
but i don't like siege :cry: and a siege server won't be full if it has 250 slots, there aren't enough players on siege to fill it. MAKE IT BATTLE!

thank you :D
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Earthdforce on June 23, 2011, 09:53:35 am
but i don't like siege :cry: and a siege server won't be full if it has 250 slots, there aren't enough players on siege to fill it. MAKE IT BATTLE!

thank you :D
I shall talk to the owner about it..again :D. He had it set on siege because that's his favorite, but I'll try to change his mind.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Glyph on June 23, 2011, 10:26:48 am
I shall talk to the owner about it..again :D. He had it set on siege because that's his favorite, but I'll try to change his mind.
it won't be full if it's siege anyway, and than there is no reason to have a 250 men server anyway then :?
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: SkyrayFox on June 23, 2011, 10:42:52 am
I shall talk to the owner about it..again :D. He had it set on siege because that's his favorite, but I'll try to change his mind.

I hope they will change it to battle. I think siege is the main reason there are never any people on that server.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Diomedes on June 23, 2011, 05:48:43 pm
Maybe alternate between the two?  I'd be happy if Sundays were siege days and the rest were battle, or something else clearly defined like that.

I want to see the classic "Arena" map (the small circle one) with 250 men, just imagine!

...all the people!
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Voodoox on June 23, 2011, 05:50:22 pm
ya but na siege gets capped at 120 on weekends and it reaches that cap easily so we could get some huge sieges going on if we all switched to that server.. unlikely tho as people are used to NA_SIEGE
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Digglez on June 23, 2011, 05:55:58 pm
theres no reason why, if they own the box, they cant setup and run both battle & siege.

The fact of the matter is, the server owner did a very poor job promoting his server.  He missed the golden opportunity to steal from the other siege server when it was a lag disaster in the past 2-3 weeks.

He hasnt done crap to try and get his server used, so it sits empty or leechers come in for free exp.  Run small maps until it starts getting regular users.

Also, not sure why he setup an east coast server when ALL of the current servers are midwest/eastern.  West Coaster players need a server of their own, which would also attract poor Oceanic players.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: POOPHAMMER on June 23, 2011, 06:40:44 pm
Heh I remember the pecores 200 man battle server back in the older days of crpg. That was fun as hell!
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 23, 2011, 06:43:36 pm
  West Coaster players need a server of their own, which would also attract poor Oceanic players.

We now have a West Coast server, very very new. However, it is not yet connected to the data base, though I would love for this to happen. 38 Ping feels amazing when I am used to the 80s or 90s on other servers.

So, we are already half way there!
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: ManOfWar on June 23, 2011, 06:48:26 pm
We now have a West Coast server, very very new. However, it is not yet connected to the data base, though I would love for this to happen. 38 Ping feels amazing when I am used to the 80s or 90s on other servers.

So, we are already half way there!

Wish i could get that ping on EU servers,


Alright, this server is really bad ass right???

Why not use it for strat battles when strat comes back?
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: POOPHAMMER on June 23, 2011, 06:51:11 pm
Wish i could get that ping on EU servers,


Alright, this server is really bad ass right???

Why not use it for strat battles when strat comes back?

What kind of ping do you get on eu? I get around 100 and its still pretty playable to me
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: ManOfWar on June 23, 2011, 07:01:45 pm
What kind of ping do you get on eu? I get around 100 and its still pretty playable to me

115, and its alright, still clunky :(

90 is where its at
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 23, 2011, 07:03:06 pm
Betwween 180 to 220 for me on those servers...
I think there is one EU server that gives me 140, which is nice in comparison.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: ManOfWar on June 23, 2011, 07:25:44 pm
Betwween 180 to 220 for me on those servers...
I think there is one EU server that gives me 140, which is nice in comparison.

haha suck it california
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Huey Newton on June 23, 2011, 07:31:06 pm
haha suck it california

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: POOPHAMMER on June 23, 2011, 07:31:28 pm
115, and its alright, still clunky :(

90 is where its at

Yeah sometimes when the internet is being good I can get a ping of around 90. I guess living on the east coast with a fast fiber optic line helps with that :P
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: Knute on June 23, 2011, 08:37:27 pm
I hopped on the 250 server once when it first came up and again the other night, both times got exactly 88 ping, so there's no reason to play it over the normal servers unless everyone else is playing there.  There was (is?) a native siege server with 200+ slots up on weekends and it was really fun having those 100 vs. 100 battles despite whatever the ping was.

We now have a West Coast server, very very new. However, it is not yet connected to the data base, though I would love for this to happen. 38 Ping feels amazing when I am used to the 80s or 90s on other servers.

Any word on whether it'll be a battle or siege server?  Either way, yay.  I'm in LA so my ping on the NA_Siege server is normally in the 80's, at best 68 and when it's 100 slots about 90-100+ ping.  At least west coast people have the TX battle server now which has a good ping and population, I can get about 50 ping on it and most of the other people playing it seem to have about the same.
Title: Re: 250 man server
Post by: ViolentCrimes on June 25, 2011, 04:33:24 am
I have added a few people to steam would love help setting everything up correctly. If you want add me to steam violentcrimes.