I Think new maps should be added, but I agree with Teeth, the maps you've suggested are kinda shit and gimmicky imo. The bridge map with the gap was the dumbest shit ever, everyone just stood on their side looking at eachother whilst ranged had a good time. Arena might be a fun map sometimes but lets be honest, its fucking tiny and if theres more than 40 ppl on its just a clusterfuck.
There are good maps however that were removed from the map pool, might be Worth looking at what maps we used to have and reevaluate if they're good or not.
There's a few circle maps in the roster right now like the Church one which in my opinion is frikkin horrible and should be removed or changed. The journey to find your opponents isn't too exciting.
All the maps you suggested, perhaps save for Arena, have been population killers in the past.
I seriously doubt a couple different maps in the rotation will "Kill" the population. I believe 100% playing the same boring shitty rotation "Kills" the population.Definitely, but so does bad maps. When that shitty forest map with the beach comes on, people leave, new maps should be added but not bad ones.
I seriously doubt a couple different maps in the rotation will "Kill" the population. I believe 100% playing the same boring shitty rotation "Kills" the population.I am not talking about reducing the overall population, I am talking about the population dipping visibly when certain maps come on. Gimmicky maps always have this effect after a while. With servers only being decently populated for a few hours each day, one gimmicky map that a few people cannot be arsed to play can effectively end the playing session for the night. I would be careful extrapolating your opinion to everyone. That said, I can't extrapolate my experiences with map popularity to NA, just saying that these maps, save for Arena, would absolutely murder an EU battle session. Nobody in EU except ranged likes to play maps where they have to run around large obstacles, climb shit, or in any way have to approach ranged without cover for a prolonged period of time.
"The canals of our city" - Wait, why was this even removed?(click to show/hide)
"Crop Rotation" - See above comment.(click to show/hide)
"Street Revolt" - See above. This shit is a classic.(click to show/hide)
"Desert Ruins" - This is another good old one; arguably very archer friendly, but far better than that church map we have now, and both have a slightly circular shape.(click to show/hide)
No map name :/ - Meh. I could live with this in rotation or out of it. Would really like if it came up really rarely, maybe just a few times a week, but too much and it gets stale.(click to show/hide)
"Prison Riot" - This map was never all that great. Sure, besting people on the balance beam above the pit of death was always fun, but other than that this map offers nothing really.(click to show/hide)
"The canals of our city"Not sure where you got the name from, but this one should be called "Battle: Trouble in the Neighbourhood". I removed this one because it is extremely unfocused and causes people to circle endlessly. Which was okay when the map was covered by 80-100 players but now its just running and running without ever fighting someone(click to show/hide)
"Crop Rotation"Has been removed because teams have to fight for the top plateau to prevent being dominated by ranged from up there, but there is no cover whatsoever so the top plateau is a cringy place to fight. Basically drew huge groans from non ranged and lead to some groans and quits from melee. Looks pretty though. During my last clean-up of the rotation I basically removed any iffy maps, because the power of maps on reducing the server population is real and I wanted to prevent it as much as possible. This one was by no means terrible.(click to show/hide)
"Street Revolt"I removed this a long time a go because it was rather small. Also ranged could do easy headshots from all angles on the melee fights circling between the barricades, like a sort of Medieval tower defense. Also the map was unplayable for cav. With the current population these problems are much less problematic so I see no reason to not re-add it.(click to show/hide)
"Desert Ruins"Has been removed when the main complaint I heard was that there were too many enclosed urban maps and people wanted old village maps and more open maps back. This one played fine, though there were some very stronk ranged spots, but this could be re-added(click to show/hide)
No map name :/This one is called Chasm. This one was a very clear population killer when it was in the rotation. There is no cover and no reasonable alternate routes. Ranged gets straight shots on everyone and when people get shot while jumping the gap, they drop out of the air instantly. You might think this is hilarious, but by the time I removed it the fun had clearly worn off for most people. I would absolutely recommend not re-adding, this one will demolish the player count, at least on EU.(click to show/hide)
"Prison Riot"Very unfocused with people spreading out over all the corridors, hard to play for cav. With 80 maps in the rotation I'd rather play the good ones more often than have mediocre maps pop up like this one.(click to show/hide)
Yeah, the gimmicky maps are best left out of the rotation, but accessible to admins in case there is a collective want for a "different" map when one is online. However, we could definitely use some different maps in rotation, for instance older maps like the city riot (the map with the overturned carts and the sewers) might be able to make a comeback now that the server population as a whole has dwindled. It's arguably a non-cav map, but I don't see why we can't have a couple maps in a large rotation not cater to a single class type.I think the last time anybody did any cleaning up of the maps in the game files is somewhere in early 2011 or something, because I recall some very old maps that I have not been able to find in there. This means that everything that has ever been in the rotation from 2011 on is still available in the files, and an admin could change the map to any of them. Though I believe map names were fucked up again last I checked, which would make it difficult.
I really want to have fun again. At the moment this game is bullshit, but I'm still playing it for strat, otherwise the black knight wouldn't be there anymore^^
And btw.: I'm playing this game for like 2 years now, I am playing like every day 2 - 3 hours, how is it possible to not know me :O. And well, I'm like allways on the top of the scoreboard^^
Blackbird needs to go play on NA1, EU1 hates fun and his recent posts suggest he wants fun
grey and drz left. Only reason. Well greys didn't really leave but they are not playing EU 2 anymore...
When are the NA peak hours ? I mean for us EU my old friends.
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yee lets wait 2 years for battlegrounds!
yee lets wait 2 years for battlegrounds!