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Title: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: pogosan on June 01, 2015, 02:39:02 pm
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Post by: Asheram on June 01, 2015, 09:16:06 pm
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Post by: Xant on June 01, 2015, 09:50:12 pm
No need for spoiler tags when the thread title says SPOILERS. Especially now that anyone accidentally opening it will have to scroll down a bit to see the actual spoilers.
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Post by: Richyy on June 01, 2015, 09:52:11 pm
Gandalf die
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Post by: Moncho on June 01, 2015, 10:03:05 pm
So how do you guys reckon Jon will be resurrected after his stabbing?
Melisandre? As a wight? Will he become an Other leader? Will he warg into Ghost in the interim?
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Post by: pogosan on June 01, 2015, 10:15:44 pm
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Post by: Xant on June 01, 2015, 11:09:11 pm
If GRRM REALLY kills Jon Snow, he's doing a really bad move. Pretty much the last "good character" left.
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Post by: Asheram on June 02, 2015, 01:07:16 am
If GRRM REALLY kills Jon Snow, he's doing a really bad move. Pretty much the last "good character" left.
"Jon's presence in the forthcoming volume The Winds of Winter is uncertain; when asked by Entertainment Weekly "Why did you kill Jon Snow?", author Martin responded "Oh, you think he’s dead, do you?"[6]"
http://www.ew.com/article/2011/07/21/dance-with-dragons-shocking-twist-g
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Post by: Asheram on June 02, 2015, 01:11:53 am
So how do you guys reckon Jon will be resurrected after his stabbing?
Melisandre? As a wight? Will he become an Other leader? Will he warg into Ghost in the interim?
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I think (hope) Jon is one of the dragon riders and Melisandre knows it. That would explain his "power" and the fact red witch told him about her plans.

There are also many people arguing about Bran joining the dark side but in Duncan and Egg's adventures weirdo with crow mark was doing everything for Westeros still no one liked him (very much like Varys). So I think he'll teach little disabled wolfie how to help fighting against frozen bitches.



Bran becomes a tree.

 EDIT  So is anyone going to mention that Beric Dondarion gave his last resurrection to Catelyn Stark?
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Post by: the real god emperor on June 02, 2015, 02:53:43 pm
The Targaryen guy Aegon can't actually be the prince who was promised , so his conquest will eventually fail. However , Jon Snow is the real heir to the Iron Throne , as the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna.
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Post by: pogosan on June 02, 2015, 03:30:42 pm
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: Moncho on June 02, 2015, 06:15:15 pm
Unless there was a secret marriage, Jon would still be an unlegitimised bastard, no matter whether Ned's or Rhaegar's, and who would legitimise him? Only kings can do that, Stannis or Daenerys most likely won't, same for Tommen. Only king that may have interest in legitimising him was Robb, and it may be in his will, but that would most likely be as a Stark son of Eddard, not a Targaryen, hence no claim to the Iron Throne (to the North yes, but thats a different matter).

My guess is that he will die or become some guerrilla leader when the Wall goes down (perhaps get wighted), but won't be the ultimate hero/AA/TPTWP. That role is for Jaime imo (if there is going to be someone who fulfils it), would be a nice final to a redemption arc, whereas Jon is more about sacrifice (love for duty, image for information, traditions for survival, etc).
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: Xant on June 02, 2015, 06:45:39 pm
Who would actually care about whether he is "legitimised" or not?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: pogosan on June 02, 2015, 07:36:34 pm
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: ARN_ on June 02, 2015, 07:53:52 pm
Unless there was a secret marriage, Jon would still be an unlegitimised bastard, no matter whether Ned's or Rhaegar's, and who would legitimise him? Only kings can do that, Stannis or Daenerys most likely won't, same for Tommen. Only king that may have interest in legitimising him was Robb, and it may be in his will, but that would most likely be as a Stark son of Eddard, not a Targaryen, hence no claim to the Iron Throne (to the North yes, but thats a different matter).

My guess is that he will die or become some guerrilla leader when the Wall goes down (perhaps get wighted), but won't be the ultimate hero/AA/TPTWP. That role is for Jaime imo (if there is going to be someone who fulfils it), would be a nice final to a redemption arc, whereas Jon is more about sacrifice (love for duty, image for information, traditions for survival, etc).
Wouldn't be that surprising if they got married as Targaryens have been known to marrying more then one women
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Post by: the real god emperor on June 02, 2015, 09:20:09 pm
I believe there is a character who has important info about Jon Snow. I am like %100 sure that he is a Targaryen, and whole story is based on that imo. If Jon dies that means , Ned's promise to Lyanna , Tower of Joy , and ever other question lingering in my mind for years were garbage,lol.
But yes, Jon doesn't have the unique appearance of a Targaryen, I believe thats because Targaryens mostly marry inside the house, and Targaryen appearance is least dominant among them. I think its going like ; Baratheon>Tully>Stark>Targaryen
All of Ned Stark's children has the appearance of a Tully, except Jon and Arya.
He mentions a whore's name to Robert as Jon's mother , well , it is what he promised to Lyanna I guess.
Besides, why would the Kingsguard defend ToJ when they can fucking guard Dany and his cunt brother, the answer is ; cus they were protecting the heir , Jon .
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 02, 2015, 09:47:02 pm
Howland Reed knows the real truth. But i bet they're gonna skip him though and have Melisandre tell him it with the help of the Lord of Light. ''Lel no need 2 pay for another actor guis 2 smart''
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: pogosan on June 02, 2015, 10:20:23 pm
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: Utrakil on April 23, 2016, 06:07:46 pm
https://got.show/ranking (https://got.show/ranking)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: Harpag on April 24, 2016, 03:13:25 pm
Why Tyrion Can't Be Killed

Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: Asheram on April 24, 2016, 08:49:12 pm
The new trailer tries to make it look like Tyrion is taking Quentyn Martells place being burned to a crisp by one of the dragons he was going to steal lol.


Edit: this fanmade trailer is pretty good too  :P 
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Post by: ARN_ on April 25, 2016, 05:39:42 pm
Spoiler warning:
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Post by: Tom Cruise on April 25, 2016, 05:49:16 pm
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Not gunna put this in a spoiler because we are in a "spoiler" thread. So if you end up reading something you didn't want to you should be in a different thread.  :P


Anywhore. It makes sense to me. It's exactly like Ellaria said, the people are infuriated with how Elia was raped and murdered with no consequences, as well as Oberyn (regardless of he was in a "sanctified by law" kind of fight. If you die, you die). Just because Doran is the only smart one around and knows how bad war would be, especially since Dorne lost a huge portion of it's military strength during Robert's Rebellion, doesn't mean there isn't a bunch of butthurt goobers, like Allaria, that want nothing bud blood and revenge. I don't agree with it, but it makes sense to me.


AND I REALLY WANTED TO SEE AREO HOTAH (big gorilla bodyguard) FUCKING FIGHT WITH THAT GIANT GUAN YU WEAPON.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: the real god emperor on April 25, 2016, 06:06:39 pm
Ser Davos for Iron Throne.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: Asheram on April 25, 2016, 06:34:10 pm
I find it funny how they took something that took 5-10 minutes to happen in the book and dragged it out 45 minutes. Daenyris walks down from Drogons lair to a field gets surrounded by dothraki horde, Drogon fly's down says not today you bunch of horse riding rapists and Daeny hops aboard. Wasn't 45 minutes of walking in crowd then talking to any dothraki minion and she never was banished to that khal widow place because like I said before Drogon wasn't having it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: Renay on April 25, 2016, 07:18:27 pm
Soooo... Melissandre....
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: pogosan on April 25, 2016, 07:21:07 pm
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: Asheram on April 25, 2016, 07:26:33 pm
Thread was supposed to be a book spoiler dump for those watching the show. My life has no meaning anymore.
so it's not a show spoiler dump for those reading the books? Did it backfire on you?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: Tom Cruise on April 25, 2016, 07:43:00 pm
Thread was supposed to be a book spoiler dump for those watching the show. My life has no meaning anymore.

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Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: Falka on April 25, 2016, 08:40:16 pm
The biggest question - is Martin gonna die before he finish ASoIaF? He's 68 and doesn't look very healthy :|
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Post by: saccizord on April 25, 2016, 11:57:03 pm
I'm annoyed with the direction the Dorne plot is going, Doran would never let the Sandsnakes have a chance at killing him and his heir... plus I wish we had the Fire and Blood speech.

The biggest question - is Martin gonna die before he finish ASoIaF? He's 68 and doesn't look very healthy :|


If he dies at least HBO will tell us the end of the books in this fanfiction with big budget
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Post by: Asheram on April 26, 2016, 12:02:25 am
I'm annoyed with the direction the Dorne plot is going, Doran would never let the Sandsnakes have a chance at killing him and his heir... plus I wish we had the Fire and Blood speech.

If he dies at least we'll know the end of the books in this fanfiction with big budget
I agree, the books left off with them locked in their tower. Also if Areo Hotep is dead then his char with his polearm was a waste, they should have kept the Arts Oakheart story where Hotep kills him as he is trying to sneak Myrcella back to Kings Landing with the Dorne girl he fell for.
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Post by: Rhekimos on April 26, 2016, 12:07:42 am
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Post by: Malaclypse on April 26, 2016, 01:40:22 am
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My roommate is attempting to wait until all the episodes are out (leaked or otherwise) before watching ANY, and this picture sums that endeavor up pretty well lol
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Post by: Renay on April 26, 2016, 02:41:17 am
My roommate is attempting to wait until all the episodes are out (leaked or otherwise) before watching ANY, and this picture sums that endeavor up pretty well lol

That plan will fail epicly.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: Asheram on April 26, 2016, 03:09:41 am
My roommate is attempting to wait until all the episodes are out (leaked or otherwise) before watching ANY, and this picture sums that endeavor up pretty well lol
I like how Netflix releases the whole season at once and lets the viewer decide how to monitor the flow.
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Post by: karasu on April 26, 2016, 06:25:55 pm
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Post by: Oberyn on April 26, 2016, 10:50:50 pm
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And suddenly the TV show viewers will spoil things for the book readers.

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I'm watching it cause clearly this isn't going to spoil anything from the books. The stories are so divergent by now I consider the show a loosely based fan-fiction than anything close to canon.
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Post by: Utrakil on April 27, 2016, 02:41:11 pm

Title: Re: Game of Thrones (a song of ice and fire) discussion [SPOILERS]
Post by: Overdriven on April 28, 2016, 01:36:27 pm
I think the Jon resurrection will happen when they try to burn the body due to the whole Targaryen blood thing, with a little help from Melisandre of course.

Maybe Daenarys will finally get up and do something useful.

Would also like to see Arya progress a little faster in this one. If they drag out this whole blind girl beggar act for more than a couple of episodes it'll just get annoying.

Sand Snakes are still as terrible as they were last season. Pretty much glazed over on that whole segment.

Also get bloody Margaery out of that goddamn prison already. She's about the only interesting thing left in Kings Landing.
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Post by: Algarn on April 28, 2016, 01:55:48 pm
The part I loved was the part where a tiny dagger wielded by a woman took off the king's bodyguard, which is like 1.90 or 2m tall, 10/10.
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Post by: Oberyn on April 28, 2016, 02:07:35 pm
RIP Areo Hotah. RIP Dorne plot. Tying up loose ends, the plot was still partly following the books last season so it was spread all over the fucking place. Dorne is one setting the show-runners apparently felt they could lose, and given how badly they fucked it up and how poorly it was received I tend to agree. I doubt we will see much more of Dorne itself, one or more of the sandsnakes are just going to be inserted in various other storylines. One going to King's Landing, the other probably to seek Danny (replacing Quentin storyline?), stuff like that. They're not going to make things harder for themselves, and why should they? The plot can now be used in service of the medium, as opposed to every other season, where the plot of the books had to be addapted to an episodic television format. The massive divergences started appearing soon after the Red Wedding, but now they really have nothing shackling them.
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Post by: njames89 on April 28, 2016, 03:04:32 pm
"Seeing a beautiful woman naked for the first time is at least one of the top 5 best things"

Pretty hilarious conversation between that other Khal and his mates.
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Post by: LordBerenger on April 28, 2016, 03:06:35 pm
Worst part about it all is that they ignored and removed Young Griff from the show. He was the best of them all. Plus I guess that kinda means he wont be that important for the next books. Fuck u George
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Post by: njames89 on April 28, 2016, 03:12:40 pm
Yeah it is a real fuck you to the people who have been reading his books from the start. Shame he couldn't buckle down and git r dun.
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Post by: Asheram on April 28, 2016, 05:42:12 pm
Jaime Lannister running from sandsnakes
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Post by: Weren on April 28, 2016, 05:50:05 pm
I believe there is a character who has important info about Jon Snow. I am like %100 sure that he is a Targaryen, and whole story is based on that imo.
Well they showed Targaryen soldiers in the trailers, which is propably a vision Bran sees. Might reveal to him Jon's past and could inform Jon or someone else through weirwood  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by: karasu on April 28, 2016, 06:31:51 pm
"Seeing a beautiful woman naked for the first time is at least one of the top 5 best things"

Pretty hilarious conversation between that other Khal and his mates.

Yeah, would be an interesting scene if it didn't take a freaking huge time to develop. The episode would've had other things better exploited on that used time... Like, I dunno, making Dorne anything interesting?  :lol:
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Post by: Molly on April 28, 2016, 07:46:59 pm
I was shouting at the screen "PUT THE CHAIN BACK ON! PUT THE FUCKING CHAIN BACK ON FFS!"  :cry:
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Post by: Tom Cruise on April 28, 2016, 10:10:46 pm
Well they showed Targaryen soldiers in the trailers, which is propably a vision Bran sees. Might reveal to him Jon's past and could inform Jon or someone else through weirwood  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Nah m8 that vision has to be Tower of Joy. The three remaining kings guard vs Ned Stark and some stark soldiers (stark soldiers also shown is trailers/fight).
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Post by: Taser on April 28, 2016, 10:43:07 pm
Jaime Lannister running from sandsnakes
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This short clip made me glad I never saw this movie.
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Post by: Asheram on April 28, 2016, 10:53:00 pm
This short clip made me glad I never saw this movie.
The movie wasn't too bad, I enjoyed it but I am easily entertained.  :P
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Post by: Taser on April 28, 2016, 10:56:26 pm
The movie wasn't too bad, I enjoyed it but I am easily entertained.  :P

I did like your play on words though. Very nice.

I do wonder when bran will show up along with hodor. And where is his brother? And the wilding girl that guards him? They disappeared as well. Bran is supposed to show up but.. who knows when.
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Post by: Jona on April 28, 2016, 11:03:24 pm
I do wonder when bran will show up along with hodor. And where is his brother? And the wilding girl that guards him? They disappeared as well. Bran is supposed to show up but.. who knows when.

He's making his debut in the next episode. And it seems as though the show completely forgot about his brother/the wildling cuz they're probably insignificant.
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Post by: Asheram on April 28, 2016, 11:05:00 pm
I did like your play on words though. Very nice.

I do wonder when bran will show up along with hodor. And where is his brother? And the wilding girl that guards him? They disappeared as well. Bran is supposed to show up but.. who knows when.
he was in the trailer, looks alot older with a dew from supercuts  I am assuming she did the haircut lol
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Post by: Asheram on May 25, 2016, 02:40:37 am
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Laufey king of the frost giants :)
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