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Title: Logic
Post by: Jacu on May 31, 2015, 10:59:06 pm
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As we know every point in "shield" increase coverage. does this shields have the same coverage ? ADMINS what is your problem ? :D
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Teeth on May 31, 2015, 11:02:50 pm
Lithuania is an American country so it's 60 inches
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Uther Pendragon on May 31, 2015, 11:05:49 pm
Quote from: Jacu on May 31, 2015, 10:59:06 pm
ADMINS what is your problem ? :D
What did we do again!?
Fine, banning everyone who uses the fake 60 inches shield from now on. Cheaters, beware!
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: ThePoopy on May 31, 2015, 11:06:03 pm
Quote from: Teeth on May 31, 2015, 11:02:50 pm
Lithuania is an American country so it's 60 inches
only when high
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: //saxon on May 31, 2015, 11:44:01 pm
Does shield height even make a difference?

With 5 shield skill and using an elite cav, archers can't shoot the feet anyway, i think  :?.
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Teeth on May 31, 2015, 11:55:39 pm
Quote from: SaxonBiceps on May 31, 2015, 11:44:01 pm
Does shield height even make a difference?

With 5 shield skill and using an elite cav, archers can't shoot the feet anyway, i think  :?.
They can, last I played at least.
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: BlackxBird on June 01, 2015, 01:27:56 am
Well did u ever check the steel buckler? It covers like the whole body with like 15-20 cm ingame
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Jacu on June 01, 2015, 01:49:24 pm
Quote from: BlackxBird on June 01, 2015, 01:27:56 am
Well did u ever check the steel buckler? It covers like the whole body with like 15-20 cm ingame
This "ufo shield" shoudnt have a chance to catch any arrow/bolt. That was shield only to melee but somtimes is bigger than huscarl...
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Rebelyell on June 01, 2015, 02:02:06 pm
My character do not understand shield, they are far to high-tech.
You probably have to low shield skill to understand that. i am to afraid to pick up one, i am sure that shield can explode and i like my virtual arma wa
y to much.
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: //saxon on June 01, 2015, 02:34:46 pm
Quote from: BlackxBird on June 01, 2015, 01:27:56 am
Well did u ever check the steel buckler? It covers like the whole body with like 15-20 cm ingame
Ye exactly, i seriously don't think shield height makes a difference.  :|
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: SG_Anani on June 01, 2015, 03:20:48 pm
Before anyone gets so defensive why doesn't someone admit this is NOT normal and say ''okay, will be/should be fixed''.

Pff.
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 01, 2015, 03:31:07 pm
Quote from: BlackxBird on June 01, 2015, 01:27:56 am
Well did u ever check the steel buckler? It covers like the whole body with like 15-20 cm ingame

Actually, it used to. But now when i use it it does nothing for me as far as ranged coverage. Atleast the round steel buckler, not sure about the other mini's.
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Bronto on June 01, 2015, 03:31:21 pm
Quote from: SG_Anani on June 01, 2015, 03:20:48 pm
Before anyone gets so defensive why doesn't someone admit this is NOT normal and say ''okay, will be/should be fixed''.

Pff.

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Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Rebelyell on June 01, 2015, 06:57:24 pm
Quote from: HESKEYTIME on June 01, 2015, 02:54:34 pm
When my 50-Str character tries to pick up a small wooden shield, it's like Hulk trying to lift Thor's hammer

Got the raw strength, but not worthy.
I cant even notice what is there, for my char it is like grass or dirt or rock.
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Gnjus on June 01, 2015, 07:50:53 pm
Bring back Fasader. This is what you get for casting him aside. High council couldn't balance a stick let alone mod's items.
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Asheram on June 02, 2015, 01:31:28 am
Quote from: BlackxBird on June 01, 2015, 01:27:56 am
Well did u ever check the steel buckler? It covers like the whole body with like 15-20 cm ingame
lol it maybe used to, I die a lot to archers with it raised.
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Fasader on June 02, 2015, 08:47:37 am
I'd fix it, but I Would have to put it into voting first which would force other balancers to do extra work and we just don't have the budget for it.
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Rebelyell on June 02, 2015, 10:22:05 am
Quote from: Fasader on June 02, 2015, 08:47:37 am
I'd fix it, but I Would have to put it into voting first which would force other balancers to do extra work and we just don't have the budget for it.
meake me balancer and I will do all the work
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Prinz_Karl on June 02, 2015, 10:43:37 am
Quote from: Fasader on June 02, 2015, 08:47:37 am
I'd fix it, but I Would have to put it into voting first which would force other balancers to do extra work and we just don't have the budget for it.

Can you also fix fake coverage of shield ON CAV?

Almost everytime you hit cav to the head it gets blocked by shield. Too many cav wanna-be's get far too much of an advantage of that. If you change something please FINALLY CHANGE THIS.
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Admerius on June 02, 2015, 09:36:26 pm
I just read thread title and thought:

Logic?
You mean the stuff about double negative=positive
Therefore make sure your target of interest says "no" an even amount of times...
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Nightmare798 on June 02, 2015, 09:56:50 pm
Lets just pretend lithuanians make shields so poor they miss one third of their colision boxes.
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Grumbs on June 03, 2015, 03:23:10 pm
I think its fine as it is. Balancer's first priority should be balance, not realism that people will hardly notice anyway especially when you put this next to far more unrealistic shield attributes like forcefields. There are inconsistencies across the board with shields, doubt its worth putting much thought into one in particular. Look at shield width for round shields compared to width of square ones for eg. They get extra width to account for their lack of coverage
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Senni__Ti on June 03, 2015, 05:12:06 pm
What, nerf xbows?

Ok

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Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Kalp on June 03, 2015, 06:54:20 pm
Quote from: Senni__Ti on June 03, 2015, 05:12:06 pm
What, nerf xbows?

Ok

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I didn't even know that there is measure tool  :o

If my math is ok then Hand Pavise Shield height is 64 (not 60) and width is 49 (not 58) [I took only middle axes to do it fast, based on "floating probe" XY results].

I can check other items, but not before the end of my semester.
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Akavirius on June 03, 2015, 08:57:09 pm
I may be wrong, but it seemed to me last time i played that ingame stats are different. The values on the website are outdated.
Title: Re: Logic
Post by: Kalp on June 03, 2015, 09:26:35 pm
Quote from: Akavirius on June 03, 2015, 08:57:09 pm
I may be wrong, but it seemed to me last time i played that ingame stats are different. The values on the website are outdated.
Right, it's 58x89. So there can be 3 different versions, one in-game, one on website and one (in fact) in .brf files. Sounds crazy  :mrgreen: