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cRPG => Ban/Unban Requests => EU (Official) => Topic started by: yasutay on May 20, 2015, 05:38:54 pm

Title: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: yasutay on May 20, 2015, 05:38:54 pm: Hello everybody.
We was created a new clan under the name of ''Warriors of Tengri'' but some of sguard guys was have problem with us and this guy sguard_sultan_emirso2 is kicked 80 players in our clan just in 10 minutes because he angry on us but he didnt need to that look it that pictures.
We want to perma ban for emirso.Im perma banned 3 years ago for the same situation we want perm ban for emirso2.

http://i.imgur.com/37XwYKN.png
http://i.imgur.com/sQquhvW.png
http://i.imgur.com/f5vDuIC.png

now we already created a new clan:http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=claninfodetail&id=6876
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: Casul on May 20, 2015, 05:52:32 pm: I dont understand how you can give rank 9 or rank 10 to someone who does not want to concur with you. Esp you, who was in the same situation as him now lel.

Anyway, thats not okay and I hope he gets some free time to think about it :x

edit: ↓ okay then, reasonable for me
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: yasutay on May 20, 2015, 05:54:49 pm: He was coming to us with 10 members and we gave to him rank 10
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: _Tamra_ on May 20, 2015, 06:17:35 pm: SGuard_Sultan_Emirso_2 got banned 3 days for leeching.
http://forum.melee.org/eu-%28official%29/ban-emirso2/

I suggest you to keep the amount of high rank members in your clan down.
Emirso has 3 days time now to give any acceptable reason for this strange act ... otherwise he will be banned permanently.
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: yasutay on May 20, 2015, 06:31:04 pm: We try to create a large confedaration among the all turks in game and we send invitation to sguars his leader sultan emirso in accepted this confedaration but 3 days later we are fighting among us because of some personel problems and they break the alliance.
he kicked their members(it is not problem) and he start to kick our members we was have 85 members in clan but he kicked all of them because of their personel problems. we try to settle with them we said please exit our clan but he refused.
we want to perm ban for him because he killed our clan and its not funny
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: emirso2 on May 20, 2015, 06:41:38 pm: Well we got seperated the colliation failed so I was in the clan and I got 10 rank why should I not kick them its my clan too.I saw them they are not leaving so I left the clan and joined the old one . My aim was I was going to start new think on that clan page. But they get mad and swear a lot of words to me and my friends and this was a unrespectfull act and this is the another reason.

Iam asking if you are giving rank 10 to someone then its free me to those stuff I can decide who stays or not.

I got banned for leeching , I just went to toilet for 4 minutes then when I came to the computer I was kicked its strange to hear that 20 min.
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: Fateeh on May 20, 2015, 06:43:53 pm: Quote from: emirso2 on May 20, 2015, 06:41:38 pm
Well we got seperated the colliation failed so I was in the clan and I got 10 rank why should I not kick them its my clan too.
We bored your lies...
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: yasutay on May 20, 2015, 06:50:49 pm: So thats not be reason for kick everyone. You really dont have to kick everyone because of your personel problems.
I already explain that before you kicked your members(its not problem) but you kicked all of our members.
you just joined our clan 3 days ago and you didnt need to kick our members we told you do not kick but you kidding with us dont care our words and doing that
http://i.imgur.com/nltFWFo.png
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: Latvian on May 20, 2015, 06:54:20 pm: google translate wars begin, this is totally on topic so dont you dare to give me warning.
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: yasutay on May 20, 2015, 06:56:21 pm: Quote from: Latvian on May 20, 2015, 06:54:20 pm
google translate wars begin, this is totally on topic so dont you dare to give me warning.
lol I didnt use google translate and dont forget this ''NOBODY'S PERFECT''
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: emirso2 on May 20, 2015, 06:59:35 pm: Quote from: yasutay on May 20, 2015, 06:50:49 pm
So thats not be reason for kick everyone. You really dont have to kick everyone because of your personel problems.
I already explain that before you kicked your members(its not problem) but you kicked all of our members.
you just joined our clan 3 days ago and you didnt need to kick our members we told you do not kick but you kidding with us dont care our words and doing that
http://i.imgur.com/nltFWFo.png

That image shows it you guys gave me the rank , I didnt kick because of my personel problems. When we united [Turkmens and SGuards] we aldready hated each other but we decide it to forget to past even we are enemies but yesterday we got seperated and today you guys came to our teamspeak and swear badwords to us. I have decided to not keep those unrespectful persons in the clan , so I used my power to not keep them and kick you guys so I can start a new clan in this thing but . Your rank 10 guys didnt leave so insist of that I left the Warriors Of Tengri and joined to Sultans Guard back.
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: yasutay on May 20, 2015, 07:12:00 pm: We joined your teamspeak today we try to agree with you and asked:''emirso can you exit our clan'' and you refused.
your members wanted you to exit clan but you refused everyone and we start insulting you.
This is not reason for kick everyone you dont have to kick everyone in our clan
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: SG_Anani on May 20, 2015, 07:21:08 pm: If we are talking in a *legal* way;

You yourself made him rank 10 which means he is considered to be equal with anyone who is also rank 10 on that clan.

From the moment one of your other leaders made him a rank 10 means they acknowledged the fact that he(Emirso) is in fact considered to be totally equal with any other rank 10 and from that moment.

That ''clan'' is his clan as much as your clan.

You are not to treat him as an outsider who happened to join your clan and surprisingly managed his way up to rank 10 and kicked everyone.

Now if we skip to the drama-part where a lot of you guys are focused on: It's sad. The drama between clan members is not anyones business.

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Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: yasutay on May 20, 2015, 07:39:11 pm: so why he kicked everyone?
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: Danetti on May 20, 2015, 07:46:48 pm: Quote from: yasutay on May 20, 2015, 07:39:11 pm
so why he kicked everyone?
Because he has the right to do this ?
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: yasutay on May 20, 2015, 07:55:46 pm: If emirso kick all of your members he is right?
you support emirso because you are same side at strategus fucking greys
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: Danetti on May 20, 2015, 08:06:16 pm: Quote from: yasutay on May 20, 2015, 07:55:46 pm
If emirso kick all of your members he is right?
you support emirso because you are same side at strategus fucking greys

Maybe a little culture ? Are you mad because of Reyvadin ? I am so sorry...

Anyway, for me this thread is bullshit. He has the right to do this, thats all.
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: yasutay on May 20, 2015, 08:20:10 pm: I want you to explain that why he is right?
and Reyvadin wasnt mine I was in different faction
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: Switchtense on May 20, 2015, 09:02:37 pm: Just ban anybody remotely involved in this and everybody is happy.
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: emirso2 on May 20, 2015, 09:45:49 pm: Quote from: Lady_Lamerina on May 20, 2015, 06:17:35 pm
SGuard_Sultan_Emirso_2 got banned 3 days for leeching.
http://forum.melee.org/eu-%28official%29/ban-emirso2/

I suggest you to keep the amount of high rank members in your clan down.
Emirso has 3 days time now to give any acceptable reason for this strange act ... otherwise he will be banned permanently.

I don't think this is a matter of Admins like anani said since this is only the drama and I myself have right to disband a clan that I am given the management of, but anyways:

We were all equal on the clan management(as you can understand from the fact THEY gave me the rank).

But then the coalition disbanded and I kicked the members from it as the leader. Because I didn't want the remaining clan(turkmen) to sit there do nothing while we move our asses back to a whole another clan page with whole another armory and whole other banner auction and etc etc. I hope you understand.

If we were considered equals at the start, we disband as equals in the end. That's all I have to say.
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: yasutay on May 20, 2015, 10:02:32 pm: We was decision that we will merge our clans and 3 days later we dont want to play with them anymore for some problems among us they didnt agree some decision and they join to our enemy's side in strategus and for this situation we decision to spread out emirso kicked their members its not problem but he start to kick our members too we specially warn him but he continue to kick everyone and our clan is crushed.
Now we want to perm ban for emirso.
http://i.imgur.com/37XwYKN.png
http://i.imgur.com/sQquhvW.png
http://i.imgur.com/f5vDuIC.png
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: Soulreaver on May 20, 2015, 10:04:08 pm: (click to show/hide)
drama :D it strikes again.
it's a precedent, the last case ended sadly
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: SG_Anani on May 20, 2015, 10:19:28 pm: Quote from: emirso2 on May 20, 2015, 09:45:49 pm

If we were considered equals at the start, we disband as equals in the end. That's all I have to say.

Emirso said all that has to be said about this, if you only wanted him to join your clan with his members, why not give him rank 8? or rank 9? You gave him the permission to EDİT CLAN DATA and now you are trying to involve admins in this.

Leave it be, this is over and nothing but your fault.
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: emirso2 on May 20, 2015, 11:03:16 pm: I am in fact sorry how this ended, but they created this chaos and since their rank 10 couldnt be removes either, it was best everyone parted ways.

I could say sorry and this wouldnt happen again, but oh well I am damn sure we will never get along .

But I am truly sorry. I am not really enjoying the fact that my own coalition disbanded. Just keep in mind this is not a rage situation like they are trying to show it.
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: //saxon on May 21, 2015, 02:33:24 pm: Can people who are not involved in this quit posting spam in the thread please. You must know the Ban Section rules by now. :wink:

As for this request, who was the original owner of the said clan? If the original owner invited Emirso2 and his clan and gave him rank 10, then Emirso2 would have no right to kick players out of their ranks because he wasn't the original owner. That said who ever gave Emirso2 rank 10 needs to think first in the future, if you guys "hated" each other before the merge then why did you go through with this?

So i would say who ever the clan that merged into this "Warriors of Tengri" ladder need to leave and go back to their old ladder.
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: SG_Anani on May 21, 2015, 03:33:57 pm: the coalition was supposed to be created on a whole new laddet but then their original leader refused and told us we had to move to their ladder and he would change name and give us all rank 10.

I was also a representative of a group of players with rank 10 and I also see what emirso did as justice. From the moment they gave emirso AND 5-6 people rank 10 means they aclnowledged them as the supreme power and as equals, there was no ORİGİNAL CLAN anymore.

But I also wonder which exact official rule he broke? İs it the one says: "you can't kick people off the faction as a leader"? Why are admins trying to act as a high moral judge for players' actions in a game?
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: yasutay on May 21, 2015, 10:58:46 pm: We(warriors of tengri members) dont want to talk anymore we just wait for ban.
Original owner is Turkmen_oguz and Turkmen_azap
Title: Re: Ban Sguard_Sultan Emirso2
Post by: _Tamra_ on May 23, 2015, 06:12:49 pm: Awaiting a decision by higher ranked admins.
SGuard_Sultan_Emirso_2 is unbanned by now, his ban for leeching expired - this will either change or not.

Quote from: Harald on June 03, 2014, 05:08:47 pm
We won't interfere in clan-internal matters.

We take it like this.