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Title: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Habi on April 03, 2015, 09:34:05 am
Since people are confused about the official Tournament RUles READ RULES HERE: http://forum.melee.org/official-crpg-5v5-eu-tournament-ii/%28oceu-5s-ii%29-tournament-rules/
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: DonNicko on April 03, 2015, 11:57:46 am
No Boulder on a stick  :( Why? it is the same as long maul
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Molly on April 03, 2015, 11:58:08 am
Throwers are considered Ranged, Melee or both?

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6.) During the qualifying every team can choose 1 map. You play 8 rounds on every map and after 4 rounds you change sides. (Altogether 16 rounds)
Just for clarification: Teams play 2 maps per match?

It doesn't mention if players have to use STF or main characters?

It doesn't mention what happens when a team does not show up, is late or less than 5 players?

Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Habi on April 03, 2015, 12:32:59 pm
THX Molly :)
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: LEKIS on April 03, 2015, 09:20:50 pm
This is just a scenario:

9 swedish players, 5 of those will make a team, and the other 4 will make their own team
 - that will mean that they can merge with another country.
10.) You can also create an alliance between 2 countrys. (Only if there are not enough Players. For example the Team AUT/CH)

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That means that this "nationscup" is pretty much useless:
11.) There are no official Teams of one country. Everyone can create his own Team.

Since Sweden have enough for one team only (all swedish), but decide to make 2 and merge with another country.
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Is this correct?

Sorry if im being unclear :)

 [EDIT]I was unclear - The name Nations since its not nationbound.[EDIT]


With Kind Regards,

Lekis

Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: jtobiasm on April 03, 2015, 09:24:54 pm
Shouldn't nations cup be the best players from each nation?
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Habi on April 04, 2015, 02:18:27 pm
YEP exactely. But it is pretty hard to find good active players for the small countrys! The only option is to allow alliances between the smaller countrys.
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Arthur_ on April 04, 2015, 04:59:37 pm
Russian team will win
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Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: jtobiasm on April 04, 2015, 05:11:36 pm
Russian team will win
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They only won that cos half of us who got to the final didn't even play
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Blackbow on April 04, 2015, 08:37:42 pm
3.) Throwers are only allowed to take weapons which require at least 3 Power Throw.

wtf this racist anti black thrower rule ? =p
i rly feel like this rule is made for me ... :'(

Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Kalp on April 04, 2015, 08:49:09 pm
Stupid restrictions, why are you killing creativity of people ?

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Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Varadin on April 04, 2015, 10:49:49 pm
Can i play for Polish ?  :twisted:
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Ikarus on April 05, 2015, 03:50:32 am
Russian team will win
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holy shit that pic is one big piece of badassery  :o
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Richyy on April 05, 2015, 09:25:00 am
So the teams dont have to be made only from players from the same country right?
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Man of Steel on April 05, 2015, 09:45:35 am
So the teams dont have to be made only from players from the same country right?
Yes, you can merge two Countrys
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Arthur_ on April 05, 2015, 08:30:28 pm
I have a le question, if you are the only one playing from your country.. can you join any other team than?
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Richyy on April 05, 2015, 09:06:19 pm
I have a le question, if you are the only one playing from your country.. can you join any other team than?

have the same problem
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Man of Steel on April 05, 2015, 09:45:55 pm
I'd like to have an International 5 vs. 5 Tournament
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Molly on April 06, 2015, 09:52:23 am
My take on making it "Nations" is probably to avoid having teams made up with clan members only.
If there are several people from different countries who want to play, I am sure we can allow an International team with those players.
Everyone who wants to participate should have the possibility to do so.
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Habi on April 06, 2015, 11:07:05 am
yep :)
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 06, 2015, 11:12:08 am
Question: Since this is a nations cup, are NA allowed to enter? And if so, if its an NA/EU match up can we do one map on the NA server than one map on the EU server so both sides get dicked by ping?
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Habi on April 06, 2015, 11:24:28 am
NA teams are allowed to join and we will play 1 map on each server.
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Habi on April 06, 2015, 11:35:32 am
Would you guys appreciate live streams? Anf if yes who should support me ?
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Man of Steel on April 06, 2015, 11:39:24 am
Why NA Teams....
It's unfair if you have to fight an NA Team and the others dont have to, they should get their own event.
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: ecorcheur_brokar on April 06, 2015, 11:56:37 am
This is just a scenario:

9 swedish players, 5 of those will make a team, and the other 4 will make their own team
 - that will mean that they can merge with another country.
10.) You can also create an alliance between 2 countrys. (Only if there are not enough Players. For example the Team AUT/CH)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That means that this "nationscup" is pretty much useless:
11.) There are no official Teams of one country. Everyone can create his own Team.

Since Sweden have enough for one team only (all swedish), but decide to make 2 and merge with another country.
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Is this correct?

As there is already one team for this country, it means that the alliance is not needed. I'm pretty sure the 4 swedish can find a last one. This rule is made for case like arthur:

I have a le question, if you are the only one playing from your country.. can you join any other team than?

Yes you can, you have to create an alliance team with another country that doesnt have enough players.
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Molly on April 06, 2015, 12:07:50 pm
NA teams are allowed to join and we will play 1 map on each server.
That should be probably discussed further.  :oops:
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: bagge on April 06, 2015, 06:06:44 pm
Can I merge Sweden, Norway and England for my team? :wink:
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Moncho on April 06, 2015, 06:12:30 pm
If someone is from one country but lives in another which one does that person count as?
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: jtobiasm on April 06, 2015, 06:34:05 pm
Can I merge Sweden, Norway and England for my team? :wink:
Fucking hell bagge, you might as well make a European team.
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Algarn on April 06, 2015, 06:35:21 pm
Hmmmm... What if I don't meet the required ammount of players, mixing two countries's best players ?
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Habi on April 06, 2015, 07:47:16 pm
2 countries Maximum! BAGGE DIDN'T YOU SEE ME ON SERVER?! I WROTE THAT LIKE 100 TIMES ALREADY ;D
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Hoppster on April 06, 2015, 07:51:08 pm
i would like to make a uk team, but its basically impossible to get a whole team online at the right time. normally works for the first 2 matches then people loose interest
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: skittle on April 06, 2015, 07:59:52 pm
They only won that cos half of us who got to the final didn't even play
jaja
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Hoppster on April 06, 2015, 08:06:27 pm
whats the time frame for this? when will it happen? how long will we have to have all of the heats? how are u going to check the nationality of the team members? how will u check people are using stf?
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Habi on April 06, 2015, 08:08:07 pm
so many questions and no answers xD
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Habi on April 06, 2015, 08:14:45 pm
When will it happen?

Can't say it. First of all lets see how much Teams will participate.

Whats the time Frame?

We will Play 1 match every week. There will be Groups of 4 or 5 Teams. So we will need 7 weeks for the whole tournament :)

How are you going to check the nationality?

The most of us know eachother so it is no Problem to check the nationality. I hope everyone is fair and belongs to the Country the Team is from :)

How will you check People are using stf?

First of all!! Fairness PLS! Everyone has to Name his STF (Tag)_Name. It is like dugs test. I will just join any match and the Players have to make screenshots. IF someone isn't using this STF the whole Team will be disqualified. :)
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: LEKIS on April 06, 2015, 08:20:27 pm
7 weeks?

I can't even keep interest for life 7 weeks straight. :O

Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Rahowa on April 06, 2015, 08:35:07 pm
Habi, design your topic please like a Bagge's topics. Make a special subforum for the tournament - for teams registration, for schedules, distribution groups, rules, information about the servers, etc. Ask admins, they can help you i guess  :wink:..

P.S. If you make a thread in the forum, I am ready to take part in the tournament with my team - Red Alert. I think, i can assemble a team of 6-7 people.
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Man of Steel on April 06, 2015, 08:36:49 pm
Habi, design your topic please like a Bagge's topics. Make a special subforum for the tournament - for teams registration, for schedules, distribution groups, rules, information about the servers, etc. Ask admins, they can help you i guess  :wink:..

P.S. If you make a thread in the forum, I am ready to take part in the tournament with my team - Red Alert. I think, i can assemble a team of 6-7 people.
Dont chnage the threads, noone wants Red Alert here!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Hoppster on April 06, 2015, 08:37:33 pm
How will you check People are using stf?

First of all!! Fairness PLS! Everyone has to Name his STF (Tag)_Name. It is like dugs test. I will just join any match and the Players have to make screenshots. IF someone isn't using this STF the whole Team will be disqualified. :)

i could add a STF tag to any of my dudes, its not hard and cRPGers arent always the most trustworthy bunch
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Man of Steel on April 06, 2015, 08:51:14 pm
We should just use the old Rules, this one are...  :lol:
And not make it an EU and NA Tournament... pls
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Hoppster on April 06, 2015, 09:18:54 pm
And not make it an EU and NA Tournament... pls

i agree
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: bagge on April 06, 2015, 09:24:12 pm
Why not? The more the merrier.
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Man of Steel on April 06, 2015, 09:26:17 pm
But do you really want to fight one map on Na Server and another one on Eu...
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 07, 2015, 03:32:49 am
I thought it was only you had to do one map NA one map EU if one side was NA and the other was EU? Plus I already got an NA team together 
Why NA Teams....
It's unfair if you have to fight an NA Team and the others dont have to, they should get their own event.

Its a Nations Cup... There's only 3 nations in NA... Don't tell me you're scared of us NA players  :wink:


Also question: Is loomed gear allowed or is it just +0 stuff?
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Habi on April 07, 2015, 08:38:21 am
SURE +3 FTW
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Mr.K. on April 08, 2015, 03:53:54 pm
Should be more limited on who you can pick imo. We are trying to put up a Finns only team, but with the current amount of players the quality will be nowhere near as good as some others. If the country can already support one, two or even three teams, why would it be possible to merge that country with even more? Swedes can easily come up with two teams, finns one, danes one, germans three and so on. None of these teams need more than one or two supporting members from another country.

Imo it shouldn't be about playing with your clanmates either (looking at Bagge here), but just having fun under the same flag for once.
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Casimir on April 08, 2015, 04:20:19 pm
Isn't the whole point of the nations cup that its one nation per team, if you can get enough people together then your nation can't field a team, that's really all there is too it? I can maybe understand if two small, geographically close countries were to unite, but really it's no longer a national team is it.  If you're going to try and have Sweden, Norway and England in one team then any sense of 'national team' goes straight out the window (although i assumed that was a joke on bagge's behalf).

Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Man of Steel on April 08, 2015, 04:25:34 pm
Isn't the whole point of the nations cup that its one nation per team, if you can get enough people together then your nation can't field a team, that's really all there is too it? I can maybe understand if two small, geographically close countries were to unite, but really it's no longer a national team is it.  If you're going to try and have Sweden, Norway and England in one team then any sense of 'national team' goes straight out the window (although i assumed that was a joke on bagge's behalf).
Just make a fuckin international tournament out of it so you can play with friends!! The Nation Mission already failed at the start
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Arthur_ on April 08, 2015, 04:37:39 pm
Can i play for Polish ?  :twisted:
U wot m8?
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Mr.K. on April 08, 2015, 05:44:30 pm
Just make a fuckin international tournament out of it so you can play with friends!! The Nation Mission already failed at the start

How did it fail? We'll have a Swedish, Finnish and Danish teams up soon I think and I'm sure some other countries as well will have their teams build that they haven't announced yet. We already had a 5v5 clan tournament, I thought this would be something different.
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: bagge on April 08, 2015, 06:09:11 pm
You seem to forget Norway, Mr.K. There aren't enough norwegians to make a team, so I didn't want them to be left out. :wink:

However I agree with Linux, Nations Cup isn't optimal as the current state of cRPG is rather dead. I highly doubt there will be even 8 teams.
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: Mr.K. on April 08, 2015, 06:42:15 pm
You seem to forget Norway, Mr.K. There aren't enough norwegians to make a team, so I didn't want them to be left out. :wink:

I'd be surprised if there wasn't many norwegians as well as there's so many people from the other nordic countries. Jarlek and Hate More I know of, but not sure about anyone else. Still I'd much rather see that you were allowed to have only one or two non-nationals and the those would take the places only when there's real need for it.

It's not my tournament, so I'm just voicing my opinion on what I'd like to see. I'd much rather destroy a full swedish team with our glorious warriors of Perkele than fight a multinational randomer team with another. We've had that tournament and we had Strategus to do that in and we do the fighting with clanmates on EU1 anyway all the time. I was hoping this would be something different. Adding a US and Canadian teams would be tons of fun as well as we never fight those guys otherwise.
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: bagge on April 08, 2015, 06:53:05 pm
Alright.

Habi, be so kind and accept my steam invitation. Need to chat with you
Title: Re: Nationscup 5 vs 5 Rules
Post by: bagge on April 08, 2015, 07:17:11 pm
I'll be taking over the tournament, so I'll lock this thread. I'll prepare all the new stuff and it will be done asap.

Few new stuff:

* New sub-forum will be presented.
* New rules.
* Prizes will be announced.

Stay tuned!

Add me on Steam if you have any questions: Click me! (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197975761793/)