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Title: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: 722_ on March 02, 2015, 07:56:47 pm
"At the Mobile World Congress on Sunday, smartphone manufacturer HTC announced the Vive, a powerful new VR headset, built in association with Valve, and featuring two 1200 x 1080 displays, a smooth 90-frames-per-second refresh rate and a bunch of motion tracking technologies: this includes two “base stations” that will work like Microsoft’s Kinect, allowing the headset to track the player’s movement within the room. Vive is also set to ship with two wireless controllers – although little was said about what these would look like.

The big news is, it’s due out later this year, potentially beating both the Oculus Rift and Sony Project Morpheus to market."


New rival to the oculus made by valve? this could be interesting for sure


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Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Kafein on March 02, 2015, 09:05:13 pm
As far as I know I have the most VR experience here, and I can already say that "two 1200 x 1080 displays" isn't going to be the last VR headset you want to buy, if you buy it. There's no doubt a Valve cooperation is a better choice than basically anything else on the market right now. The tech is just far from mature. VR will still improve enormously with more pixel density and larger fields of view.
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: [ptx] on March 02, 2015, 09:16:52 pm
Ahhhh, Mobile World Congress, my company is presenting the stuff i've been working on for the past 6 months there. Too bad they're sending some manager types over there, rather than some of us hard-working people, so i can't see this shit IRL. :cry:
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: 722_ on March 02, 2015, 09:34:16 pm
As far as I know I have the most VR experience here, and I can already say that "two 1200 x 1080 displays" isn't going to be the last VR headset you want to buy, if you buy it. There's no doubt a Valve cooperation is a better choice than basically anything else on the market right now. The tech is just far from mature. VR will still improve enormously with more pixel density and larger fields of view.

I have only tried the very first oculus rift and you really can see the pixels in it, dont know what res that one was though. it also made me feel very sick after about 10 minuites.

 What excites me though is the sense of scale that these things bring to games, it really felt like I was in the game world. its amazing how large the trees in minecraft look and I spent a minute or two just standing under one and looking at it.
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on March 03, 2015, 12:58:48 am
What excites me though is the sense of scale that these things bring to games, it really felt like I was in the game world. its amazing how large the trees in minecraft look and I spent a minute or two just standing under one and looking at it.

Theoretically speaking, when technology permits it, me and my wife can have sex wearing headsets, and seeing each other as movie stars. Or using a penis-mounted camera, I could actually become my own penis, and explore my wife in a new and exciting way.
Yeah, and we also need a service that will let you connect to people who is wearing a headset, so one can follow each other around while sitting on a sofa/toilet. This will be a next-gen facebook'ish service, and teenagers will go crazy to get more people to watch them do stuff.

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Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Leshma on March 04, 2015, 09:22:34 pm
First impressions are very encouraging. While it doesn't beat Rift display's, it is vastly better at tracking. Also many games confirmed for SteamOS (Witcher 3, Batman Arkham Knight), there is a sale going on atm. Source 2 announced, will be free to use (not sure about source code availability). Also some Steam Machines revealed but not pricing (Zotac Steam Machines is fucking great, but I doubt it will be sold for less than 1000 dollars). Final controller design shown. Steam Link (50 dollar streaming machine) shown. Also nVidia Titan X revealed on GDC.

In other news, Unreal Engine dropped subscription. Source code and everything else is free to download, you only pay 5% royalty for products that earn more than 3000 dollars. Unity answered with free personal edition (no royalty) but dunno about source code. Shown nice demo, just like Unreal. Also UT has first map finished, looks gorgeous. Vulkan API announced (codename OpenGL next), a lot of code is taken from AMD Mantle API. Mantle is dead. Source 2 will support Vulkan, Epic didn't say anything about UE4 but it is matter of time imho. Vulkan supports all platforms, even mobile.

Leshma from GDC 2015, out!
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: 722_ on March 04, 2015, 09:47:18 pm
First impressions are very encouraging. While it doesn't beat Rift display's, it is vastly better at tracking. Also many games confirmed for SteamOS (Witcher 3, Batman Arkham Knight), there is a sale going on atm. Source 2 announced, will be free to use (not sure about source code availability). Also some Steam Machines revealed but not pricing (Zotac Steam Machines is fucking great, but I doubt it will be sold for less than 1000 dollars). Final controller design shown. Steam Link (50 dollar streaming machine) shown. Also nVidia Titan X revealed on GDC.

In other news, Unreal Engine dropped subscription. Source code and everything else is free to download, you only pay 5% royalty for products that earn more than 3000 dollars. Unity answered with free personal edition (no royalty) but dunno about source code. Shown nice demo, just like Unreal. Also UT has first map finished, looks gorgeous. Vulkan API announced (codename OpenGL next), a lot of code is taken from AMD Mantle API. Mantle is dead. Source 2 will support Vulkan, Epic didn't say anything about UE4 but it is matter of time imho. Vulkan supports all platforms, even mobile.

Leshma from GDC 2015, out!

Nice update leshma, I am actually somewhat interested in these new steam machine / link things. would like something to replace my old ps3 netflix machine.
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Kalam on March 05, 2015, 01:37:28 am
Making a decision about which one to purchase will be hard. I've been saving since January. o.O
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Dalhi on March 05, 2015, 11:10:31 am
It is not really surprising that all steam machines or rather "living room PC's" are overpriced.
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/these-are-the-steam-machines-landing-this-holiday-season-1287235

Also the steam controller looks bit wierd and and first impressions aren't really promisiing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdMe4mHUH2c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdMe4mHUH2c)

So, all in all I won't pay for something that I already have. Streaming isn't really something that I am looking for as I already plugged PC to TV with 10 m hdmi cable and I play games with xbox controller without blessing from Valve.
The only question is how games will perform on SteamOS compered to Windows.

Also some Steam Machines revealed but not pricing (Zotac Steam Machines is fucking great, but I doubt it will be sold for less than 1000 dollars
1000 dollars for mobile cpu and gpu?  :lol: If someone will want a PC that is locked in itx case, do it yourself. I wouldn't recommend getting any of those.
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Molly on March 05, 2015, 11:29:14 am
Well, I am certainly interested in the Steam controller - they said it's going to available in November 2015 for around $50...
I'll keep an eye on the upcoming reviews.

VR is nothing I am interested in tbh.
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Banok on March 05, 2015, 12:31:23 pm
Didn't valve also co-operate with occulus?

I don't get it. I get the feeling HTC are extremely overplaying the association with valve, to boost sales from fanbois.

When it came to steam-boxes valve didn't just partner with one company.
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Andswaru on March 05, 2015, 12:38:17 pm
I don't get it. I get the feeling HTC are extremely overplaying the association with valve, to boost sales from fanbois.

They are just trying to angle themselves as the "offical partner of valve", so all the idiots think, omg if i dont buy HTC it might not be compatible with all my steam stuff. Like the idiots that only buy Sony (insert any other big name brand really) cables for their tv because the manual says a Sony HDMI cable, and pay a for 40 euro premium in the process.
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Molly on March 05, 2015, 01:44:00 pm
In all fairness, I have my 3rd smartphone from HTC in use atm and I have always been very satisfied.
As far as I can tell, they know their electronics.
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Overdriven on March 06, 2015, 01:48:33 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31734418

Nice article about this.

Certainly sounds promising. Albeit requiring the space to move around could be a bugger.
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Grumbs on March 06, 2015, 02:05:34 pm
http://store.steampowered.com/universe/vr/

Looks like they aren't just using Valve's name to sell the product - fully endorsed and integrated on their website along with the new Steam controller (this is what i have my eye on the most). What seems weired to me is that they didn't let Valve announce it themselves. The internet would have gone crazy over this if they did

Also: http://www.pcgamer.com/steamvr-hands-on-valve-overtakes-oculus/
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: JasonPastman on February 21, 2016, 08:09:06 pm
HTC VIVE priced at 799! Pre-orders start next Monday.

http://blog.htcvive.com/2016/02/unveiling-the-vive-consumer-edition-and-pre-order-information/
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: 722_ on February 21, 2016, 11:50:12 pm
fuk dat yo
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Leshma on February 22, 2016, 01:20:11 am
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Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Leshma on February 28, 2016, 12:24:49 am
HTC VIVE priced at 799! Pre-orders start next Monday.

http://blog.htcvive.com/2016/02/unveiling-the-vive-consumer-edition-and-pre-order-information/

900 euros ffs. Don't think this VR revolution will last long. If Sony really release its thing for 450 USD, RIP PC VR gaming.
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Kafein on February 28, 2016, 02:22:27 am
VR on a PS4 is going to be shit though.
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Leshma on February 28, 2016, 03:16:57 am
We'll see. Don't like any of them tbh. Too big, too heavy, too expensive, too demanding, too many cables, imperfect. Don't think this will fly but we'll see. Industry usage is obvious though.

The very fact this went viral thanks to chubby dude's campaign on worlds biggest nostalgia selling site is enough of alarm. Bought by Facebook, company which i won't even dare to explain. Fat and greedy Gabe wants his share of the cake. Then Sony and HTC... every actor in this play stinks.

Sony filled for patent, new type of motion controller. Guess what it is? Powerglove 2.0... which means this is another round of 3D glasses type of craze, resurrecting old tech making it bit better and selling to new kids. No killer app yet, at least 3D had Avatar. Will die out in 5 years from now and close the circle. See ya in 20 years with brand new and improved HMD...
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: JasonPastman on February 29, 2016, 05:55:32 pm
So, Happy VIVE Pre-Order Day!

But I've decided to hold off on the pre-order for now, because well, there just isn't much content available for it yet.

http://store.steampowered.com/search/?#sort_by=_ASC&vrsupport=101&page=1
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Molly on March 01, 2016, 11:33:31 am
Developement stages:
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Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Leshma on March 15, 2016, 10:27:06 pm

Great price. Wonder will those gloves come bundled with it or released sometimes next year. 350$ for console + 450$ for HMD equals 750$ which is less than price of Vive VR.
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Banok on March 15, 2016, 11:40:37 pm
I think I can get a 4k, 100hz curved 34 inch monitor for the same price as these 1st gen VR sets.

Its not that I dont want both. but VR headset will never be used as much as regular monitor, so if I was going to blow a bunch of money it makes no sense to buy VR yet.

Hyped for VR but cant see myself buying one in the next few years :(
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Kafein on March 16, 2016, 12:24:13 am
I think I can get a 4k, 100hz curved 34 inch monitor for the same price as these 1st gen VR sets.

You can't, but close enough, for 800 euros you can get a very good gaming monitor, and granted it would be extremely stupid to buy a VR headset before having that.

Great price. Wonder will those gloves come bundled with it or released sometimes next year. 350$ for console + 450$ for HMD equals 750$ which is less than price of Vive VR.

They want to sell those juicy licenses. No way that HMD is breaking even, if the other players are to be believed. But no matter, as long as the experience is good. Yet I have strong doubts about that on the PS4.
Title: Re: HTC Vive - The new Valve/HTC Virtual reality headset
Post by: Asheram on June 29, 2016, 03:20:59 am
https://www.facebook.com/BombSquadBattles/videos/vb.1378650252435181/1575279202772284/?type=2&theater

lol at the video with the kids grandpa playing bomb squad  :D