cRPG
cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Moscher on January 08, 2011, 11:40:59 pm
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Its important that you know that this repair patch will ruin the crpg Mod.
Grinding is what the Peopel want, in every Game the humans want to be better to get better Armour, Horses, X-bows etc. etc.
And the Heirlooming Patch was such a genius idea. Because overmighty Chars, beginning as Peasant and young Player can be for a time the nr. 1
But know?
Everyone is feared to use Gear. Most filled server is Siege, because u can hide there and get your gold.
There is no fun to get new or better Items, only to heirlooming "old medium" Equip. Why i should play a game to heirlooming bad items?
If you want to make the game more Interresant give the player Skills like "Bind Wound", to heal other a littel bit. Or other cool skills, like in Ultima online.
I dont wanna attack you and i know that i can play other games, but i like the idea of this mod, and i know the players, they will come 1-2 Weeks, then they will play other games, and the crpg mod will be dye slowly.
Greetings
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Its important that you know that this repair patch will ruin the crpg Mod.
Grinding is what the Peopel want, in every Game the humans want to be better to get better Armour, Horses, X-bows etc. etc.
And the Heirlooming Patch was such a genius idea. Because overmighty Chars, beginning as Peasant and young Player can be for a time the nr. 1
But know?
Everyone is feared to use Gear. Most filled server is Siege, because u can hide there and get your gold.
There is no fun to get new or better Items, only to heirlooming "old medium" Equip. Why i should play a game to heirlooming bad items?
If you want to make the game more Interresant give the player Skills like "Bind Wound", to heal other a littel bit. Or other cool skills, like in Ultima online.
I dont wanna attack you and i know that i can play other games, but i like the idea of this mod, and i know the players, they will come 1-2 Weeks, then they will play other games, and the crpg mod will be dye slowly.
Greetings
Ps: you decreased repair Costs, so i see that you see that repairing patch is not so good as you think. Make it to maximal 0.1- 0.5 %. Then its a good Gimmik, But not more, because Full Equiped Player will pay over 1500 Gold by 1 % ca.
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Ps: you decreased repair Costs, so i see that you see that repairing patch is not so good as you think. Make it to maximal 0.1- 0.5 %. Then its a good Gimmik, But not more, because Full Equiped Player will pay over 1500 Gold by 1 % ca.
Sorry Doubel Post, i wanted to edit:-)
PPS: sorry again, modify is the edit button hrhr*G*
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wah wah wah
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Grind is a cancer that new gamer kids keep perpetuating. It's terrible and is destroying the quality of games and gaming sub-culture in general.
Besides that, noone seems afraid to use gear here on the NA servers. I wear 43k worth of gear and I'm making a slow and steady profit every day since the patch. Best patch ever.
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Well seeing as he has openly said that he hated it in the patch before and didn't intend for this to be WoW, I wouldn't expect him to change it back. He made it into the game he wants to play so if you don't like it feel free to go play Ultima instead.
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Actually the last patch is quite brilliant, the real problem is that not all are equal from the start: some already have higher level chars with loads of money and some don't. Guess who the whiners are. :wink:
I've said it before and i'll say it again: big patch that will fix all the major flaws (like the last one, a few more flaws to be dealt with but its on the right course), accompanied by a full char/strategos reset and revamp of the maps on battles servers. That is the way to go. Im the first that shouldnt be happy with it since i would lose a lot but hell, thats about the only way to make all people have a fair chance from the fresh start.
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Dont be angry you both,
I only want to say, that a game with upgrades need a grind factor.
humans wants to get better, look at the evolution:-)
This patch gives the mod a barrier. No Player can wear good gear (he can but he will dont do it long)
This is a good meant warning, because i played many Mmorpg games and was in most of them Leader, Raidleader, Officer etc etc and now what the peopel want:
LOOOOOOOT
If you dont give the player loot, they leave you, trust me.
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this repair patch was genius, keep up the good work, I only wish upleep was higher, you want endless grind, there are plenty of "amazing" :rolleyes: options for you out there
I heard there's this game called WoW or something for you to play, go ahead, go, please, no I insist
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Grinding is boring I just like playing being it battle, strat, or native.
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Armor is for scrubs, learn to block!
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DrKronic pls be quit, i dont like the kiddys who say then go to wow. Be friendly and use your brain.
I want to help this mod not to attack it.
Or chadz give the player to get more rewards. Opening Gate extra 500, or open Doors extra 200 , Kills 50 gold?
So good players can invest in repair costs.
@Nindur
Block against Arrows, Axes, Lances,Horses and Swords in back, pls use your brain too
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humans wants to get better, look at the evolution:-)
This patch gives the mod a barrier. No Player can wear good gear (he can but he will dont do it long)
This is a good meant warning, because i played many Mmorpg games and was in most of them Leader, Raidleader, Officer etc etc and now what the peopel want:
LOOOOOOOT
If you dont give the player loot, they leave you, trust me.
Having a loot is nice, but the game balance is much more important. If everybody could have their tincans and tank-chargers all the time, all new players would get frustrated in no time. It was crazy when I tried this mod first time 1 day before the patch, majority of players had a 2 meters long 2H shord and full plate mail or a warhorse and a lance from outer space. Now I can actually get some kills with my low/mid end char.
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DrKronic pls be quit, i dont like the kiddys who say then go to wow. Be friendly and use your brain.
I want to help this mod not to attack it.
Or chadz give the player to get more rewards. Opening Gate extra 500, or open Doors extra 200 , Kills 50 gold?
So good players can invest in repair costs.
@Nindur
Block against Arrows, Axes, Lances,Horses and Swords in back, pls use your brain too
So u could block arrows, axes, lances, horses and stuffs before the patch?
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So u could block arrows, axes, lances, horses and stuffs before the patch?
No, he could crutch on plate armor like every other noskill tryhard.
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Armor is for scrubs, learn to block!
Yeah why we need any armour, give us only 1 normal kind of weapon 1 sword, we need no shield, armour or anything. And learn atletic 15 to avoid arrows "BONK" :twisted:
So u could block arrows, axes, lances, horses and stuffs before the patch?
no pls use ur brain too. :shock:
With armour there is a protection against 1 shooting Archers/Xbower/Throwers/Horses
I only warning that many player will leaving. If you cannot discuss or use ur brain so play better in your peasant armour :lol:
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Your a very rude boy, also, I stand firm by my statement, learn to block, get a sheild, or maybe even quit :) I wear steppe armor and I usually do quite well!
Armor is for scrubs
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Grinding is what the Peopel want, in every Game the humans want to be better to get better Armour, Horses, X-bows etc. etc.
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Mine is to get the best looking ones.
I am light infantry and before the patch i was facing hordes of knights, yeah that was "fun".
Now my enemies are hordes of medium fighters, which is more doable.
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learn to block, get a sheild, I wear steppe armor and I usually do quite well!
Armor is for scrubs
Ähem? why are u not naked? I sayed use ur brain :twisted:
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Mine is to get the best looking ones.
I am light infantry and before the patch i was facing hordes of knights, yeah that was "fun".
Now my enemies are hordes of medium fighters, which is more doable.
Thats right mala, i know u, you have ur personal style, and thats unique. What i mean is that there are now Zero knights on battelfield, only a army of peasants:-)
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Yeah why we need any armour, give us only 1 normal kind of weapon 1 sword, we need no shield, armour or anything. And learn atletic 15 to avoid arrows "BONK" :twisted:
no pls use ur brain too. :shock:
With armour there is a protection against 1 shooting Archers/Xbower/Throwers/Horses
Yeah why we need any armour, give us only 1 normal kind of weapon 1 sword, we need no shield, armour or anything.
I only warning that many player will leaving. If you cannot discuss or use ur brain so play better in your peasant armour :lol:
Im pretty sure im using my brain alot more than u! :)
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I hope it too:-)
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Thats right mala, i know u, you have ur personal style, and thats unique. What i mean is that there are now Zero knights on battelfield, only a army of peasants:-)
Actually I see a lot of knights. If I wasnt a HA, I could afford a plate all the time. If that is your definition of knight.
What is happening is actually very good, people is wearing what they like (afford), using what they like(afford), not just what gives them more protection/damage regardless of the cost.
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Mine is to get the best looking ones.
Says someone who wears rags.
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I only warning that many player will leaving.
No, really you're just whining and going all gloom and doom like all the other armored horse plate guy wannabes. "THIS SUCKS, EVERYONE WILL QUIT!"
No, only the whiners and gear crutchers will quit, and that's a good thing.
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your Mod chadz
That's all that needs to be read in this thread.
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Gorath gorath gorath
thats my statement and my experiance with humans.
If you are too young to understand this i will understand that your only words are: you whiner and go to wow. So you are young.
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Moscher what gear did you use before the patch?
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Gorath gorath gorath
thats my statement and my experiance with humans.
If you are too young to understand this i will understand that your only words are: you whiner and go to wow. So you are young.
WTF are you babbling about, human nature? Yeah, the general populace majority has the nature of desperately wanting any and all advantage they can get to compensate for lack of skill. The gamer sub-culture, at least before all the newmy old friends and mainstreamers came in, used to be removed from this and embraced balanced skill-based competition.
That's neither here nor there though. chadz expressed how he wants the mod to be, which is in direct opposition of what you and the other whiners want, and while you will all leave (hopefully) the rest of us (who have probably been here from the start for the most part, and known each other since native) will stay and love the shit out of this patch and mod.
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Lordly Heraldic Mail with Tabard
Thick Steel Shield
Sugarloaf Helmet
Gauntlets
I wanted to be a medium-Heavy Fighter with good Speed and wpf.
Now i cannot use it because repair costs are too high
Using now
Nordic Leather Helmet
Red Gambeson
And thats no fun
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Says someone who wears rags.
Yeah, thet is another sad problem. This is the best looking light armour in this game (well, and i like simple things).
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WTF are you babbling about, human nature? Yeah, the general populace majority has the nature of desperately wanting any and all advantage they can get to compensate for lack of skill. The gamer sub-culture, at least before all the newmy old friends and mainstreamers came in, used to be removed from this and embraced balanced skill-based competition.
That's neither here nor there though. chadz expressed how he wants the mod to be, which is in direct opposition of what you and the other whiners want, and while you will all leave (hopefully) the rest of us (who have probably been here from the start for the most part, and known each other since native) will stay and love the shit out of this patch and mod.
Hey good words:-) And you have right.
The whiners win.
So many Tincans and now Zero Tincans. Young and not good experienced players whined that there are so good equiped players outside, now there are no good equped anymore.
WHINING WINS
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Actually the last patch is quite brilliant, the real problem is that not all are equal from the start: some already have higher level chars with loads of money and some don't. Guess who the whiners are. :wink:
I've said it before and i'll say it again: big patch that will fix all the major flaws (like the last one, a few more flaws to be dealt with but its on the right course), accompanied by a full char/strategos reset and revamp of the maps on battles servers. That is the way to go. Im the first that shouldnt be happy with it since i would lose a lot but hell, thats about the only way to make all people have a fair chance from the fresh start.
I support a full reset! I am only a casual player, but play this mod since the last reset, so I have all the equipment I ever wanted and currently 130k gold left to pay my upkeep / repair costs. Now imagine all the hardcore players with 10+ generation characters who play more than 20 hours per week...
Reset strategus and crpg and let us enjoy a realy new crpg/strategus.
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Average player in average gear was the point of this patch and it's working.
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Average player in average gear was the point of this patch and it's working.
I played native today, all average players in average gear, with the occasional medium geared guy on a kill streak. It was like crpg but only the fun part. Hmmm
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Yet in crpg and native I'm in the gear I want to be and still using the same layout.
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Its ok for all average and new player.
Before patch all peopel could go there own way
peopel who wanted to go to Strength , did these, Medium Fighter like Mala go there way, Ninja Fighter go there way,
Heavy Cav did there job.
Upkeep is a nice idea :) realy. BUT cRPG is a game, and players (me too) enjoy playing what they LOVE, some like to play as a cav, some like to play as plate, some like to play as ninja, some are str player and some are agi player. Playing agi give more wpf, speed, parade rapidity and BY that do not need heavy armor, the way they play don't requiered body protection, their best protection IS their agi. For them, upkeep is not a problem..
BUT some players enjoy playing str char, who are slower, realy slower, do less dmg but are in front of melee, fight face to face with enemy, they strike 1 time when they agi friends strike 3 times.
Reducing the possibility for players to play with the stuff they worked hard for earning is stupid, let's PLATE COME BACK, IT's JUST A CLASSE,A WAY TO PLAY, not a sort of overpowerd item we use.
Applause
But now Plate wearer are death, Heavy Horse wearer are death, good equiped players are dead. Only bad and average quiped peopel are on battelfield. I say a giant peasant army is now there.
Nobody Heirlooming good items now.
So many Styles are gone now. Heavy Cav, Heavy Infantery, Plate Wearer etc etc.
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Im still here el Guapo
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Its ok for all average and new player.
Before patch all peopel could go there own way
peopel who wanted to go to Strength , did these, Medium Fighter like Mala go there way, Ninja Fighter go there way,
Heavy Cav did there job.
Applause
But now Plate wearer are death, Heavy Horse wearer are death, good equiped players are dead. Only bad and average quiped peopel are on battelfield. I say a giant peasant army is now there.
Nobody Heirlooming good items now.
So many Styles are gone now. Heavy Cav, Heavy Infantery, Plate Wearer etc etc.
u forgot to mention the Archers!
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Says someone who wears rags.
You obviously never read her character background story, she's role-playing a peasant girl who's lost in this big world of Calradia. That's why she wears rags and can always be seen roaming the edges of the map on her own. :wink:
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Its ok for all average and new player.
Before patch all peopel could go there own way
peopel who wanted to go to Strength , did these, Medium Fighter like Mala go there way, Ninja Fighter go there way,
Heavy Cav did there job.
Applause
But now Plate wearer are death, Heavy Horse wearer are death, good equiped players are dead. Only bad and average quiped peopel are on battelfield. I say a giant peasant army is now there.
Nobody Heirlooming good items now.
So many Styles are gone now. Heavy Cav, Heavy Infantery, Plate Wearer etc etc.
I guess you are so in Rage that you dont even played enough to check it out.
I currently wear a set worth 37k Gold and still earn money.
I also spend lots of rounds wearing my 20k Armor => 50k Worth Set.
The point is: I cant do it every time but i can do it. And you are so wrong if you are saying, that there is no more
Heavy Cav, no Tincans, no Archers etc.
I always see them. Every Fight, every single Round. But maybee in 3 of 6 Rounds they go back and wear medium Armor.
If you see Heavy Cav now its not every third player its rare. And thats good.
FFS stop whining and play the game. Yo
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DrKronic pls be quit, i dont like the kiddys who say then go to wow. Be friendly and use your brain.
I want to help this mod not to attack it.
Or chadz give the player to get more rewards. Opening Gate extra 500, or open Doors extra 200 , Kills 50 gold?
So good players can invest in repair costs.
@Nindur
Block against Arrows, Axes, Lances,Horses and Swords in back, pls use your brain too
When I was playing TradeWars on BBS you were most likely not even a sperm in your dads ballsack
and the simple point I was making is what chadz posted himself, HE was not happy with the mod, no one is paying him to make this into YOUR fantasy of what YOU want, it is HIS, not MINE or YOURS
let him do what he wants to do, if he drives off some people that wanted to grow E-penis's from wearing plate armor and killing new players so be it
btw I played the "Uber Plate Guy" build, you know what happened, it wasn't that I couldn't destroy the Server as Darth_Kronic, it was that I didn't enjoy it, go figure easy mode isn't for everyone
when I joined this mod about 8 generations ago(for my character), it was for the promise of making a single player type character in a multiplayer environment, nothing more, it wasn't so that I could metagame so hard that I could bluff myself into thinking using the best equipment somehow made me better than you or anyone else.....
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Ei Moscher hör doch mal auf mit dem Scheiß. Die leute wollen geübte Gegner, die eine Herausforderung darstellen.
Der Spass am "Grinden" führt zu immer weniger spass für Anfänger und Langeweile. Jemanden lässig platt zu machen, der gerade mal lvl 15 ist und das spiel kennenlernt, nur weil du lvl 40 bist, ist eben keine Herausforderung.
Spiel einfach mal mit Spielern im Team zusammen. Es ist viel spassiger wenn du weisst, der andere kann auch nur lvl 31 sein aber ich kann gut blocken/parieren/schießen/werfen und mit dem "Skill" mach/en ich/wir ihn fertig :P
in english
Stop trolling Moscher, people want a challange not to grind evry day.
Start playing in a team and think: ha this enemy is at best lvl31, ha me/us too. Nevertheless i/we going to kill him with my/our skills in blocking/manual parry/shooting/throwing.
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Its important that you know that this repair patch will ruin the crpg Mod.
I dont wanna attack you and i know that i can play other games, but i like the idea of this mod, and i know the players, they will come 1-2 Weeks, then they will play other games, and the crpg mod will be dye slowly.
I'm saying this to chadz since almost one year(That Mod is dying) !!! And he is not listening and not doing what i want !! And we all know that people like facebook so we should be able to join your character with facebook account !!! It's a must !!! In any other case mod will slowly DIE !!!
p.s.
or you mean "dye" in meaning of changing colour and you are not in my special "THIS At fifteen, I had the will to learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ; at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the square." clan ? Actually this mod was dead so many times that it is Ultimate Zombii right now. And we all knows that Zombies are not kewl !!! Pirates are kewl .
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But now Plate wearer are death, Heavy Horse wearer are death, good equiped players are dead. Only bad and average quiped peopel are on battelfield. I say a giant peasant army is now there.
Nobody Heirlooming good items now.
So many Styles are gone now. Heavy Cav, Heavy Infantery, Plate Wearer etc etc.
Only bad people ? You are bad !! I'm pro and i'm on battlefield !! (or you mean bad= evil ?).
I love Heavy Cav Plate wearer style it was something perfectly balanced comparing to somebody who would like to be a pirate ! (and who don't want to be a pirate ? )
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If you want to make the game more Interresant give the player Skills like "Bind Wound", to heal other a littel bit. Or other cool skills, like in Ultima online.
it is good idea make a skill to do wololo and transform enemys in frends .
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You obviously never read her character background story, she's role-playing a peasant girl who's lost in this big world of Calradia. That's why she wears rags and can always be seen roaming the edges of the map on her own. :wink:
Well, then it makes no sense at all that she's going for the looks.
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Lordly Heraldic Mail with Tabard
Thick Steel Shield
Sugarloaf Helmet
Gauntlets
I wanted to be a medium-Heavy Fighter with good Speed and wpf.
Now i cannot use it because repair costs are too high
Using now
Nordic Leather Helmet
Red Gambeson
And thats no fun
Why can't you use it? If you look at the math you can wear 25,000 gold in gear, lose literally every game, and break completely even. If you win and lose half your games you can support almost 60k in gear.
If you feel limited by 60k gear I don't know what to tell you.