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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => The Chamber of Tears => Topic started by: Tomeusz on February 24, 2015, 09:38:22 pm

Title: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Tomeusz on February 24, 2015, 09:38:22 pm

I hit an lightly armored archer 4 times with a 9+ cut tatar arrows and  masterwork nomad bow. He is still alive. He hits me once with bodkin arrows and takes 3/4 of my health(iam lightly armored so this arrow should be worse against thin armor).

I mean WTF, when u gonna ballance cut arrows to any usefull state that every my old friend in the game runs bodkins all the time? Also high damage bows suppose to have worse accuary due high damage imput so how the fuck they can shoot headshots while iam on move and my arrows from nomad bow drop so fast that hitting anything from longer distance(in the head) is almost impossible?

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Casul on February 24, 2015, 09:43:11 pm

If cut arrows suck, then why are you using them?   I could make the efford to find 4-5 threads where you stated how useless cut arrows are.

try 24/18 tartar bow archer and tell us afterwars how many arrows a 'lightly' armored archer survived.

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: San on February 24, 2015, 10:01:55 pm

Tatars are just about as good as bodkins now with cut/pierce changes. You deal very low damage if you hit the arms/legs. Toggle damage reporting with 'b' and post screens of low damage if it's truly dealing crap damage.

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Bl0rk on February 24, 2015, 10:07:39 pm

Quote from: Cassia on February 24, 2015, 09:43:11 pm

I could make the efford to find 4-5 threads where you stated how useless cut arrows are.

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Quote from: Tomeusz on February 11, 2015, 06:17:48 pm

Iam not asking about some worthless, slightly dmg boosts, but about archers mobility, arrows capability and movement speed? Or this shit gonna be broken as it is now where archer dies to one swing/throw, moves 10x slower than any other class including crossbowmans, heavly armored two handers and need to shoot and HIT(yes, because its harder to aim and hit in crpg than in native) 10 arrows to kill any targer(worthless cut tatar arrows)?

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Quote from: Tomeusz on February 08, 2015, 09:36:55 pm

I just playd archer char to check anything changed. Ofcourse not. Dieing to one swing from fucking anything while have to shot and hit 20 headshots to kill. And in last patch they also nerfed the amount of arrows I can carry by 10(!!!). Cut arrows are fucking worthless in this mod. Not only u move like elephant and have way harder aiming than in native, but also u have to put 20 arrows in a target. Change name of this mod to "clans clashes rol plain gaim", because this mod is suited/ballanced to satisfie some clans that prefere one type of gameplay making other totaly worthless and unbalanced. This kind of game should be about variety, not one class/build/ way of gameplay dominating anything else.

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Quote from: Tomeusz on February 13, 2015, 04:57:24 pm

I think arrows should have pierce damage instead of cut, because arrows thrust, not cut. That would be more effective against most arour types in game.

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Quote from: Tomeusz on February 13, 2015, 07:51:25 pm

Archery is retarded in this mod.
[...]
Retarded ballance and idioticly designed archery.
No wonders noone play this mod anymore and napoleonic battles and native are full of ppl.

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Tomeusz on February 24, 2015, 10:13:49 pm

but "new" arrows are imba a little, costs and weight just for cost of 1 dmg

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Tiger on February 24, 2015, 10:15:22 pm

You do know there are also strength archers around?

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on February 24, 2015, 10:52:15 pm

Quote from: Tomeusz on February 24, 2015, 09:38:22 pm

I hit an lightly armored archer 4 times with a 9+ cut tatar arrows and  masterwork nomad bow. He is still alive. He hits me once with bodkin arrows and takes 3/4 of my health(iam lightly armored so this arrow should be worse against thin armor).

I mean WTF, when u gonna ballance cut arrows to any usefull state that every my old friend in the game runs bodkins all the time? Also high damage bows suppose to have worse accuary due high damage imput so how the fuck they can shoot headshots while iam on move and my arrows from nomad bow drop so fast that hitting anything from longer distance(in the head) is almost impossible?

You mind adding some stuff like, your build, what bow/arrows, looms? Stop shitting out of your mouth constantly, for all we know you might have 3 powerdraw and then its not weird you have to hit your target so many times.

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Azuma on February 25, 2015, 07:08:38 am

I have an idea.

Why not make Two Types of arrows for Long and Short bows.

And btw make more types of arrows than 2 cuz arrows and barbed was useless until last patch, and now are useful for 2h archer like me, only,THANK YOU FOR THAT !! Took Years ... cuz Archers with a 2h and 0wpf in melee is too cheated you know.... --' but anyway..

I explain :

The lenght of the arrow requires a long or a little BOW.

Exemple :
A 93 Lenght arrow (bodkin) can be used ONLY with a big bow (Bow, Rus, Long etc..).
And littles one can be used ONLY with little bows (Nomad etc..)

SO you can make Bodkin types and Tatar types for each TYPES OF BOWS but with for diffence : MoreAmmo/LessDamages.

Thats not more complicated than dat.

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I'll make a new topic for it.

http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/new-idead-for-archery-(arrows)/msg1117824/#msg1117824

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on February 25, 2015, 08:26:00 am

Quote from: Gravoth_iii on February 24, 2015, 10:52:15 pm

Stop shitting out of your mouth constantly,

but then he wouldnt be Tomeusz

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: IR_Kuoin on February 25, 2015, 08:45:42 am

Every time Tomeusz returns to cRPG we sure get to hear it ...

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Azuma on February 25, 2015, 09:30:16 am

I dont even know Moncho but everytime i post something, he's mad and downvote lmao  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Moncho on February 25, 2015, 09:40:05 am

Just your (imo) shitty suggestion that would involve tons of work and probably cause a bunch of problems with the coding for very little gain. Nothing personal, you are not special in any way

Downvote two posts with the exact same content for the exact same reason and apparently thats everytime  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Azuma on February 25, 2015, 11:25:39 am

Quote from: Moncho on February 25, 2015, 09:40:05 am

Just your (imo) shitty suggestion that would involve tons of work and probably cause a bunch of problems with the coding for very little gain. Nothing personal, you are not special in any way

Downvote two posts with the exact same content for the exact same reason and apparently thats everytime  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

haha ^^ Ok, now i got your Opinion about me, thank you  :lol:. But im saying that because everytime i got a downvote, you are in.  :wink:

And, for me, when i downvote somebody, is because he said something realy bad, i do not when he is trying to bring some ideas and suggestion for make the game better (even for his opinion, even if he is wrong). "But you are nothing special in any way" too, for me  :wink:. So have a nice day Dear Moncho. 

Cheers 8-)

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: NJ_Legion_Icedtea on February 25, 2015, 11:48:12 am

Ever thought that they may have high strength with MW equipment and wondered how the fuck you survived a HS?

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on February 25, 2015, 12:31:25 pm

L2pewpew my old friend

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Casul on February 25, 2015, 06:11:38 pm

Quote from: FRANK_THE_TANK on February 25, 2015, 12:31:25 pm

L2pewpew my old friend

Where is your moderator power?

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Tomeusz on February 25, 2015, 06:17:43 pm

Say what u want but those new arrows are op. Also archers are still quite slow(easly chased by 2handers, heavly armored whores).

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Leshma on February 25, 2015, 07:16:10 pm

Why are archers slow? You know that time when you're facing an archer, he drops his shit and start running towards a sunset? Archers are moving slowly because of those people, you have to thank them for that.

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Gurnisson on February 25, 2015, 07:55:36 pm

No one can explain your bullshit threads

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Macropus on February 25, 2015, 08:08:46 pm

Hello, Tomeusz.

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Tomeusz on February 25, 2015, 11:47:58 pm

Quote from: Macropus on February 25, 2015, 08:08:46 pm

Hello, Tomeusz.

Hello Ballancer. U again fukd up ballance. -1 cut gonna conpensate double the price and 1/5 less weight for new arrows? U still don't understand basic fact that archer should be agile.

BTW. Great job with throwers that throw with perfect accuary, headshoting while they are on the move... .

Title: Re: Can u explain this bullshit?
Post by: Azuma on February 26, 2015, 08:22:35 am

I aborted the fact of "archers should be agile, and a minimum stronk" because they never will be. I know it.

The BIG annoying shit thing is... THROWERS CAN JUMP ! WHY DID YOU REMOVE THE JUMP TO ARCHERS !!

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