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Title: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Hirlok on December 02, 2014, 05:12:54 pm
Hey guys - I know you have squeezed the last cents out of your credit cards to support the donkey crew in their lost cause very successful Kickstarter campaign.

Yet - there are other things in this world as well beyond gaming and the dark basements most of you are hiding in...

So I ask you for your promotional help and/or money. The goal is way less ambitious, the effects way more immediate.

We (my friend and me) are currently in a tight spot (financially and man-power wise) here, trying to help a few wounded / neglected / underfed / not neutered dogs and cats in the neighborhood.

So I have started a billion dollar kickstarter campaign a little GoFundMe fundraiser.

Link it, facebook it, tweet it or otherwise promote it, if you will.
And if you have some cash available - a wounded tomcat, a dog with a nasty skin problem, another pregnant little dog, a BUNCH of nameless cats and kitten and an old Hermit would be quite grateful.

Link to campaign: http://www.gofundme.com/helppetsinparaguay

Supporting facebook page with more images & updates:  http://www.facebook.com/pages/Paraguay-Pet-Support-Fundraiser/724550017623027 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Paraguay-Pet-Support-Fundraiser/724550017623027)

imgur-Album with link to fundraiser: http://imgur.com/gallery/725vy

Reddit (I iz new there, so no direct fundraiser link, just up that link to the imgur album:
http://www.reddit.com/user/MartinTheWanderer

All pages/threads could use some likes/shares/tweets/whatevers if you have a minute. Thanks!

This is one of the little buggers we try to care for (and find a new home for him):
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Trying to keep them fed - some of the cats and one of the dogs we are currently taking care of in addition to our own:
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(thats my friend Sibylle btw - she gets a bowl of rice sometimes as well... )
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Utrakil on December 02, 2014, 05:32:55 pm
Sorry there are enough humans to care about.
Dogs and cats can go full Darwin(only the fittest survive).
I understand your feeling toward a living creature that needs your emediate help but I don't think there is use to transfere money to the other end of the world to save a cat if I could save a human as well.
Good luck!
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Hirlok on December 02, 2014, 05:53:23 pm
Quote from: Utrakil on December 02, 2014, 05:32:55 pm
Sorry there are enough humans to care about.

I respect that point of view - even if my life and experience has led me to quite the opposite.
BTW most of the animals we try to help / neuter / feed here atm belong to an old man and ex-monk who spent most of his life helping others (humans)  and now lives off almost nothing since humans are an incredibly grateful species...
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Prpavi on December 02, 2014, 05:57:44 pm
I could only spare 10 euros but if that will do any good at all I'll be happy.

Good luck to you man!

Love, Prpavi


You Utrakil I'm in a really bad mood today and could say allot of things to you right now... but I won't because that would make us the same.

Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: lombardsoup on December 02, 2014, 06:28:39 pm
Animal philanthropy, always worth the money

Here's one of mine for shits and giggles.  Warning: cat is a cyclops, not for the squeamish

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Gnjus on December 02, 2014, 07:29:23 pm
Sybille's nose makes me wanna donate......
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Silicium on December 02, 2014, 08:20:00 pm
Does the project have a limited time? this isn't really the right time for me or else I would gladly have donated, but if there isn't any limit ill be able to give a few in the future.
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Hirlok on December 02, 2014, 08:45:11 pm
Quote from: Prpavi on December 02, 2014, 05:57:44 pm
I could only spare 10 euros but if that will do any good at all I'll be happy.

Thanks man! it is a start - and here in Paraguay some things (like meds) are relatively cheap, so 10 bucks are way better than nothing!!!

Quote from: Silicium on December 02, 2014, 08:20:00 pm
Does the project have a limited time? this isn't really the right time for me or else I would gladly have donated, but if there isn't any limit ill be able to give a few in the future.

AFAIK the GoFundMe campaigns are NOT time restricted.

I can not support stray/other people's animals from my own very limited (AKA non-existent...) funds - therefor the fundraiser. GoFundMe donations are payed out weekly, and we will do the most urgent things first, like getting the sick/wounded guys to a vet. But we will need more on an ongoing basis - for food and to get at least the females neutered, so the problem does not multiply any more...

Right now we YET another problem - Flocki, the little dog in the picture, raided another neighbor's chickens last night (that happens if dogs get a completely unbalanced diet... ) and killed a few dozen chicklets... fuck me... now the owner thinks about shooting the poor little fucker... humans...

Quote from: Gnjus on December 02, 2014, 07:29:23 pm
Sybille's nose makes me wanna donate......

LOL - you guys are related, eh? LMAO. But hey, whatever reason - if someone opens his wallet, it is a good reason! :)


BTW in case someone has problems with Stripe - Paypal address is mh (at) elfenwald.org - I will list those donations manually on the campaign site, GoFundMe supports tracking of "offline" donations. 
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Xant on December 02, 2014, 08:57:43 pm
My sympathies are with the innocent and defenseless. Humans are very rarely the former.
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: agweber on December 02, 2014, 09:27:25 pm
Quote from: Utrakil on December 02, 2014, 05:32:55 pm
Dogs and cats can go full Darwin(only the fittest survive).

This made me think.

Humans have developed a society that provides for those who are not fit to survive. While those are not fit to survive typically won't reproduce, some will (rednecks and hilljacks). (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/) Animals will continue to develop and evolve over the ages due to darwinism, and perhaps someday, we'll be the reverse in this scenario.
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: lombardsoup on December 02, 2014, 09:46:24 pm
Quote from: agweber on December 02, 2014, 09:27:25 pm
This made me think.

Humans have developed a society that provides for those who are not fit to survive. While those are not fit to survive typically won't reproduce, some will (rednecks and hilljacks). (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/) Animals will continue to develop and evolve over the ages due to darwinism, and perhaps someday, we'll be the reverse in this scenario.

Fuck that eugenics "not fit to live" shit.  If I can afford it without burdening the rest of society with the cost, I'm going to take care of it, be it human or animal.
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: agweber on December 02, 2014, 09:57:43 pm
Question about your campaign; are your goals in order of importance? The animals will survive with what you feed them plus what they can get on their own, but I would definitely prioritize the sterilization and medication.
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: lombardsoup on December 02, 2014, 09:59:57 pm
Quote from: agweber on December 02, 2014, 09:57:43 pm
Question about your campaign; are your goals in order of importance? The animals will survive with what you feed them plus what they can get on their own, but I would definitely prioritize the sterilization and medication.

This, neutering, deworming, and feline leukemia tests are the first things on my list
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Xant on December 02, 2014, 10:05:11 pm
Quote from: agweber on December 02, 2014, 09:57:43 pm
Question about your campaign; are your goals in order of importance? The animals will survive with what you feed them plus what they can get on their own, but I would definitely prioritize the sterilization and medication.
I think this goes without saying.
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Hirlok on December 02, 2014, 10:17:27 pm
Quote from: agweber on December 02, 2014, 09:57:43 pm
Question about your campaign; are your goals in order of importance? The animals will survive with what you feed them plus what they can get on their own, but I would definitely prioritize the sterilization and medication.

Of course. Priority is medication. I have treated the dog with the skin problems with what I have, but it is not ideal. Same with the wounded tomcat - wound needs to be properly sewn. Vets here in Paraguay are a long story (most of them are only interested in cattle and don't give a shit), but a guy I know seemingly found one who is not a butcher and is a bit more knowledgeable...   

Sterilization is the most important topic - unfortunately the most expensive, so that has to wait until some funds poured in. Plus I have to negotiate hard with the owner on that point - he dislikes the idea, but can't handle the offspring either. So he WILL be convinced. I will slap him with an Elder's Stick, if need be.  :mrgreen:

De-Worming meds (we use natural stuff like papaya seeds for prevention, but every couple months you need to feed them one of those nasty pills...) etc. are included in the "stock up on meds" point, not that urgent, but important as well.

So basically: yes, there are priorities, but we have to try and balance what we can do to support the animals with what is possible right now. This is a different world here (leukemia tests? much lol - nobody ever heard of that here, I bet... ) and if you are short on cash it does not make things easier.
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Jeade on December 02, 2014, 11:21:23 pm
Shared it and I'll donate whatever I can after all of my bills are paid.
I can't promise it'll be much, but every little bit counts!
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 03, 2014, 12:10:59 am
nice kitten you have there, i find they taste the best fried, salted and dipped in ketchup. tell me how the cooking goes!
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: lombardsoup on December 03, 2014, 12:44:33 am
Quote from: Clockworkkiller on December 03, 2014, 12:10:59 am
nice kitten you have there, i find they taste the best fried, salted and dipped in ketchup. tell me how the cooking goes!

Head Chef Clockwork

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/12/01/video-shows-san-francisco-restaurant-worker-tenderizing-meat-on-sidewalk/ (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/12/01/video-shows-san-francisco-restaurant-worker-tenderizing-meat-on-sidewalk/)

Back on topic I'll donate as soon as I have some money available
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Hirlok on December 03, 2014, 12:54:58 am
LOL Clock - if I ever make it to your godforsaken shithole of a county - I will turn you into a huge bloody bowl of kitten food!!!


Apart from that: thanks for your support so far, friends!

I have put up a quick facebook page as well, so I can post more pictures  and updates on what is happening and what we are doing with the donated funds as they come in.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Paraguay-Pet-Support-Fundraiser/724550017623027 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Paraguay-Pet-Support-Fundraiser/724550017623027)

Would appreciate if you guys dropped some "likes" on that poor little page, it feels so un-loved at the moment...  :oops:

BTW GoFundMe censored the image of the wounded cat - too "graphic". What a bunch of bigots.
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Jeade on December 03, 2014, 01:28:52 am
Quote from: lombardsoup on December 03, 2014, 12:44:33 am
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/12/01/video-shows-san-francisco-restaurant-worker-tenderizing-meat-on-sidewalk/ (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/12/01/video-shows-san-francisco-restaurant-worker-tenderizing-meat-on-sidewalk/)

Fuck, that's weird. That's a pretty decent neighborhood, too.
Can't believe the health department didn't permanently shut them down for that video alone.
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Kalam on December 03, 2014, 02:19:57 am
I follow you on twitter and stuff, but god damn you're asking me to SUPPORT CATS? CATS ARE GOD DAMN PARASITE CARRIERS THAT DRIVE US INSAAAAAAAANE.

This is because they are evil.

OKAY?
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Hirlok on December 03, 2014, 02:56:31 am
Quote from: Kalam on December 03, 2014, 02:19:57 am
***anti-cat propaganda deleted****
This is because they are evil.

OKAY?

Then support just the dogs.

OKAY?
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: agweber on December 03, 2014, 05:34:10 am
Donated, enjoy!
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Vibe on December 03, 2014, 07:47:22 am
That's cool man. Me and my gf already donate a bunch every month to people/organizations that take care of homeless kittens and dogs, we prefer this over donating to people because:
Quote from: Xant on December 02, 2014, 08:57:43 pm
My sympathies are with the innocent and defenseless. Humans are very rarely the former.

Anyway, we'll probably send some money your way.
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Vibe on December 04, 2014, 10:44:44 am
Oh one more thing, you absolutely have to post this on imgur.com. They love cats and people who help animals.
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Umbra on December 04, 2014, 11:35:35 am
Dont know if any of my gaybook friends will care but invited them all to like it anyway.
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Hirlok on December 04, 2014, 02:16:54 pm
Quote from: Vibe on December 04, 2014, 10:44:44 am
Oh one more thing, you absolutely have to post this on imgur.com. They love cats and people who help animals.

Yup - we had the same idea at the same time - already done ( http://imgur.com/gallery/725vy )  & link added on OP.
Could use some upvotes as usual.


Quote from: Umbra on December 04, 2014, 11:35:35 am
Dont know if any of my gaybook friends will care but invited them all to like it anyway.

Thx Umbra! every little bit is appreciated.
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: agweber on December 05, 2014, 07:25:33 pm
Bumpity. It's for a good cause folks.
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Kafein on December 08, 2014, 07:37:36 pm
Quote from: lombardsoup on December 02, 2014, 06:28:39 pm
Animal philanthropy, always worth the money

It's not philanthropy if it's towards animals you illiterate.
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Nightmare798 on December 08, 2014, 07:55:06 pm
Quote
Yet - there are other things in this world as well beyond gaming and the dark basements most of you are hiding in...

So I ask you for your promotional help and/or money. The goal is way less ambitious, the effects way more immediate.

I find the positioning of those two lines hillarious. Its like you wrote: ''hey you basement dwelling nerds, but you can still do something useful with your pitiful existences, by donating to the cause!''

Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: lombardsoup on December 08, 2014, 08:30:41 pm
Quote from: Kafein on December 08, 2014, 07:37:36 pm
It's not philanthropy if it's towards animals you illiterate.

1. Take your hands and firmly grasp the stick that was shoved up your ass
2. Pull
3. Donate when finished
Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: Hirlok on December 13, 2014, 08:35:23 pm
Update:

almost nobody gave a damn (here or elsewhere), - something animals (and many humans) "below" the equator are quite used to. And I have seen too much to be very surprised/upset/disappointed or anything else for that matter. It is "ok", and I am thankful for those who contributed and/or showed their interest in those furballs.

Part of the problem got "solved" already (several of the cats/kitten were killed), we managed to heal the wounded tomcat and the friendly fat dog with the skin problem - with our will, showing some affection, and using a few home treatments like tee tree oil from our own supplies. 

The money raised so far will pay for 4 phials of hormonal birth control (so no more little ones at least for 6 months or so) and a few bowls of decent food.
Sterilization or anything else expensive is out of range as things stand.

/End Update.

On a sidenote: there might be arrows of unknown origin sticking in some butts starting tonight... ;-)

Title: Re: I know you don't care. Still worth a try. [cute kitten inside!]
Post by: agweber on January 13, 2015, 05:14:46 pm
Saw the update you just posted on that site. I'm sad to see that only myself and Prpavi were willing to donate. Perhaps now that everybody who had 'invested' into MBG now have that extra money to spare, you could get a few more bucks to help these poor critters. Hopefully bumping this back up to the front of general will get this a little bit more attention.

tldr; bump