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Title: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Johnnyfirs on November 28, 2014, 07:14:14 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOVFvcNfvE

Whatcha think?
I actually got some nostalgia-hype when I saw the stormtroopers.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Ard. on November 28, 2014, 07:27:29 pm
Really hope this is a fake/troll. What is that lightsaber crossguard nonsense? A black stormtrooper? Really?
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Johnnyfirs on November 28, 2014, 07:30:51 pm
Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't all the stormtroopers black?
All clone troopers were made from the body of Jango Fett (right?), the bounty hunter from the prequels, and that guy was indeed black.
And ya know, later the clone troopers became stormtroopers so I guess it's alright

As for the lightsaber... I dunno
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Ard. on November 28, 2014, 07:34:27 pm
No, they're not, stormtroopers are just normal soldiers, not the clones.


Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: LordBerenger on November 28, 2014, 07:36:05 pm
Really hope this is a fake/troll. What is that lightsaber crossguard nonsense? A black stormtrooper? Really?

First point semi legit (but they want something fresh and new). 2nd part...yes a black stormtrooper. Jango Fett was black afaik in Star Wars Episode 2. And regardless i don't see anything bad with it anyhow. Unless it's because you want only uber race gorillas in the movie.


Anyhow, this is too little to judge from but i'll watch it for sure. If they bring back the ghost of Darth Sidious i'll be satisfied anyhow.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Angantyr on November 28, 2014, 07:47:55 pm
Some time after the Galactic Civil War, Imperial Stormtrooper clones were supplanted by enlisted troopers, male populations of entire planets.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Vibe on November 28, 2014, 07:48:32 pm
no kyle katran much disappoint

Is this trailer for real though? What an uninspiring trailer.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Angantyr on November 28, 2014, 07:49:44 pm
It's official, yes.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Ard. on November 28, 2014, 07:51:59 pm
yes a black stormtrooper. Jango Fett was black afaik in Star Wars Episode 2.

Not the point, that guy is apparently one of main protagonists in the movie. SJW have won, I'm only waiting for the gay Jedi.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: NejStark on November 28, 2014, 07:54:33 pm
Jango Fett was played by Temuera Morrison who is a Maori (native New Zealander).


The shots are very Abrams Star Wars I think. Im pretty sure there were very similar shots in the first Abrams Star Wars trailer.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: lombardsoup on November 28, 2014, 07:56:18 pm
Way too much CGI, not enough handmade ships.  Don't even get me started on the cast, got mad as hell watching that
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Angantyr on November 28, 2014, 07:58:53 pm
Well, new trilogy is most likely shitty but at least it can only be better than Lucas' last three SW movies  :wink:
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: lombardsoup on November 28, 2014, 08:14:03 pm
Well, new trilogy is most likely shitty but at least it can only be better than Lucas' last three SW movies  :wink:

That was bad enough to watch, here we go again

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Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Vibe on November 28, 2014, 08:26:03 pm
That hilt lightsaber though... fucking lol
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Utrakil on November 28, 2014, 08:28:39 pm
That lightsaber shows the symptom I guess.
Has to be new, bigger, faster,... fuck where did we lose the story??!!
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: lombardsoup on November 28, 2014, 08:30:02 pm
Explain to me what the fuck this shit is

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Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Vibe on November 28, 2014, 08:30:48 pm
it's a hilt lightsaber lol

it's to chop your own hand off while swinging this red penissaber so you can be cool like anakin
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: lombardsoup on November 28, 2014, 08:31:24 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Angantyr on November 28, 2014, 08:38:52 pm
On the other hand Disney will maybe set the bar even lower than Lucas.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Angantyr on November 28, 2014, 08:43:06 pm
That lightsaber shows the symptom I guess.
Has to be new, bigger, faster,... fuck where did we lose the story??!!
Will grab this chance to recommend Plinkett's illuminating new trilogy analysis, on where it all went wrong: http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: enigmatic_stranger on November 28, 2014, 08:58:11 pm
Explain to me what the fuck this shit is

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What's wrong with that? I am sorry, never been much into Star Wars... Whole franchise always looked silly to me anyway.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Algarn on November 28, 2014, 09:00:29 pm
What's wrong with that? I am sorry, never been much into Star Wars... Whole franchise always looked silly to me anyway.

Heretic ! And yeah, what's up with this crappy light saber ?
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Johnnyfirs on November 28, 2014, 09:01:00 pm

- Stormtroopers may be awesome, not just cannon fodder.
- Stormtroopers may be people, and have different personalities, not just cannon fodder.


This is something I'm hoping for too. Always loved the design of the stormtroopers, too bad they never really did anything, except shooting some even less important rebel troops.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Utrakil on November 28, 2014, 09:02:31 pm
Will grab this chance to recommend Plinkett's illuminating new trilogy analysis, on where it all went wrong: http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/
Nice but toooo loooong.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: lombardsoup on November 28, 2014, 09:04:15 pm
What's wrong with that? I am sorry, never been much into Star Wars... Whole franchise always looked silly to me anyway.

It was fine until '83
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: enigmatic_stranger on November 28, 2014, 09:05:20 pm
And yeah, what's up with this crappy light saber ?
It has a cross-guard. Is it... Is it bad?
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: NejStark on November 28, 2014, 09:10:14 pm
Yo dawg....
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Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Swaggart on November 28, 2014, 09:12:03 pm
Leave it to the nerds to spaz out about a cross guard saying it will chop off your fingers. How about we see the movie and see how it's used. Maybe this particular character has a fighting style that makes it useful?

And what the fuck is wrong with a black storm trooper? Other than it offends your racist ass what could possibly be the problem?
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Angantyr on November 28, 2014, 09:16:04 pm
What's wrong with that? I am sorry, never been much into Star Wars... Whole franchise always looked silly to me anyway.
Like most Sci Fi and fantasy stuff it's mainly aimed at kids. Used to like it when I was younger but have generally outgrown these universes a long time ago.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Osiris on November 28, 2014, 09:18:11 pm
It was fine until '83

Am i the only guy who doesn't think the first movies are omgwtf amazing best films ever with all the pew pew that cant hit shit and terrible one liners and people who cant actually use lightsabres very well? Sure they are good films but not really any better that then second trilogy (which at least had decent fights)



Or is it a case of FILM I LIKED FIRST MUST BE BEST! Like all the people calling the new star trek films shit and wank over the original series :D
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: enigmatic_stranger on November 28, 2014, 09:20:24 pm
Like most Sci Fi and fantasy stuff it's mainly aimed at kids. I've also outgrown it a long time ago.
Yeah, maybe my mistake is that I didn't watch the films in my childhood time.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Vibe on November 28, 2014, 09:31:50 pm
Star Wars was worth it for the Jedi Knight series. I don't care what other shit the franchise produced. Kyle Katarn <33333
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: lombardsoup on November 28, 2014, 09:35:59 pm
Star Wars was worth it for the Jedi Knight series. I don't care what other shit the franchise produced. Kyle Katarn <33333

Forgot about that series, makes me want to play through it again
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Vibe on November 28, 2014, 09:42:28 pm
PS Star Wars Expanded Universe > lighting whip

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the shit they come up with :D
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: LordBerenger on November 28, 2014, 10:19:05 pm
Not the point, that guy is apparently one of main protagonists in the movie. SJW have won, I'm only waiting for the gay Jedi.
 

Regardless if the clones aren't part of the stormtroopers at the time. Some Stormfront-esque kids would believe there's no black people either in that galaxy (i guess Lando was a white guy in disguise). It could be cool to see it from a stormtroopers perspective as a main character.


Anyhow you can just wait and see. And long time fans weren't originally ecstatic about the double edged lightsaber that Episode 1 brought in either. Change is necessary. Might look awesome during combat.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on November 28, 2014, 10:21:45 pm
I don't get what the problem is with
a) Getting a little creative with lightsabers.
b) Giving Stormtroopers more depth.
c) Having a black main character (it's not like black people can exist in a made-up universe or anything)

Anyway John Boyega representing SOUTH EAST LONDON WAHAYYYY
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on November 28, 2014, 10:37:30 pm
Like most Sci Fi and fantasy stuff it's mainly aimed at kids. Used to like it when I was younger but have generally outgrown these universes a long time ago.

You remind me of these girls in school asking at the age of 13: "What, you are still reading comics? That's for children, I'm too grown up for that." That really hurt me, 'should there be a time when I'm too old to like Asterix?' - Gladly I'm grown up now and know that it's not true.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: LordBerenger on November 28, 2014, 10:44:05 pm
I don't get what the problem is with
a) Getting a little creative with lightsabers.
b) Giving Stormtroopers more depth.
c) Having a black main character (it's not like black people can exist in a made-up universe or anything)

Anyway John Boyega representing SOUTH EAST LONDON WAHAYYYY

If anything people should complain (or Americans) over Brits taking over more American movie roles from them.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Voncrow on November 28, 2014, 11:05:36 pm
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Also Light Whip is about as ridiculous as these pointless blade guards...
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: lombardsoup on November 28, 2014, 11:32:11 pm
You remind me of these girls in school asking at the age of 13: "What, you are still reading comics? That's for children, I'm too grown up for that." That really hurt me, 'should there be a time when I'm too old to like Asterix?' - Gladly I'm grown up now and know that it's not true.

This.  If you're too old to have fun then you're just old.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Osiris on November 29, 2014, 12:07:49 am
To be fair crossguards make complete sense when the other dude has a sword of light that can cut your hand off pretty easily if you mess up :D I mean its not like nearly every sword made has some kind of guard right.

never played star wars games except Kotor 1+2 so i hope they make a film about those. would be so cool :D
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: SixThumbs on November 29, 2014, 12:19:27 am
The story in the original films is classic, what i like is that you could fit the basic premise to a Cowboy film, Samurai film, pirate film or even medieval setting with dragons and the basic premise of an orphaned farm-boy joining an ancient order then going to avenge his father and restore his family honour etc against the evil empire still works.

The funny thing is George Lucas took the theme and premise' of the "hero's journey", traits and motifs common to most cultures' hero tales, and slapped a sci-fi theme to it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hero_with_a_Thousand_Faces
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Voncrow on November 29, 2014, 12:37:20 am
To be fair crossguards make complete sense when the other dude has a sword of light that can cut your hand off pretty easily if you mess up :D I mean its not like nearly every sword made has some kind of guard right.

never played star wars games except Kotor 1+2 so i hope they make a film about those. would be so cool :D

The problem is the blade guards are pointless because they don't extend fully to the hilt, they have emitters extending from the hilt below where the actual blade emits. So they are blade guards that don't guard the hilt and are therefore worthless.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Leesin on November 29, 2014, 01:40:26 am
The problem is the blade guards are pointless because they don't extend fully to the hilt, they have emitters extending from the hilt below where the actual blade emits. So they are blade guards that don't guard the hilt and are therefore worthless.

Was just about to say this lol.

Look where the lightsaber starts on the crossguard guys, it's not flush to the lightsaber, if your enemies lightsaber hits the part between the crossguard blade and the main blade it's going to cut through it, #reking your lightsaber and #reking your hand, leaving you truly #rekt.

I didn't mind the rest of the trailer and I have my hopes for this movie, but that one small detail did really make me cringe and smell the cheddar, it's a stupid idea that they didn't need to put into the movie.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: chesterotab on November 29, 2014, 01:49:29 am
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how did they allow a completely perpendicular design over a flush angled one?
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: LordBerenger on November 29, 2014, 02:43:50 am
Also to the ones who bitched about stormtrooper being black (which was 100000x more on YT comments)


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Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: [ptx] on November 29, 2014, 03:39:20 am
People getting mad over a senseless LIGHTSABER design
senseless LIGHTSABER design
senseless LIGHTSABER

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Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Sparvico on November 29, 2014, 08:27:56 am
Really hope this is a fake/troll. What is that lightsaber crossguard nonsense? A black stormtrooper? Really?



http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crossguard_lightsaber

To be fair Roblio Darté's saber is not a dual sided perpendicular cross guard, but there is a precedent. In any event lightsaber cross guards are an excellent design improvement. It always bugged me that Lucas was to vain/ignorant to consult with literally anyone that knows the most basic thing about saber/sword play when he designed the lightsabers. You're not going to have a weapon that can cut through literally almost anything and not put a motherfucking cross guard on it.

The problem is the blade guards are pointless because they don't extend fully to the hilt, they have emitters extending from the hilt below where the actual blade emits. So they are blade guards that don't guard the hilt and are therefore worthless.

Slap some Cortosis  (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cortosis) on the hilt and use the cross guard to stop them from cutting your hand off. Though a metallic cross-guard made of a Cortosis composite would be even better, as it would be less dangerous to the wielder.

As to the clone trooper being black.
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After the failed uprising on Kamino in 12 BBY, Emperor Palpatine came to the conclusion that an army of clone soldiers was far too susceptible to corruption. Thus, he expanded the Stormtrooper Corps to include clones that were created from a variety of genetic templates, effectively marginalizing Jango Fett's progeny into a minority status. In addition to the massive influx of new clone sources, the Corps began recruiting real Human beings to serve in the ranks as enlisted stormtroopers.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stormtrooper
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: FleetFox on November 29, 2014, 11:13:58 am
Can't fucking wait.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Johnnyfirs on November 29, 2014, 12:26:14 pm
To be fair crossguards make complete sense when the other dude has a sword of light that can cut your hand off pretty easily if you mess up :D I mean its not like nearly every sword made has some kind of guard right.
Like all big franchises, the die hard fans will always dislike changes, even the slightest. Can't we all admit the sith dude looks pretty badass wielding that lightsaber?
Sure, there's like 80% chance of the movie being a complete failure (80% might even be generous) - but come on it's Star Wars, we have to see it and I'm not even that much of a fan... Star Wars is just Star Wars.
And besides, it's a teaser... Not a trailer. Think they said the movie would come out December 2015 tho, so there's probably not going long before the real trailers are coming.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: darmaster on November 29, 2014, 03:20:30 pm
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Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Vibe on November 29, 2014, 03:34:52 pm
Like all big franchises, the die hard fans will always dislike changes, even the slightest.

It's not about disliking change, it's about the lightsaber looking ridiculous. It's like someone tasked his 4 year old kid with coming up with a new lightsaber design.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: SixThumbs on November 29, 2014, 04:36:38 pm
The sound/look of a lightsaber always made me think two blades meeting had a sort of "stickiness" to it and that's why they didn't have guards.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Tibe on November 29, 2014, 05:05:50 pm
Ye, the lightsaber bothers me aswell. I mean good fucking god. Im no fan of Star Wars, I think its alright, but thats about it. But there is no bloody way in hell, that is a practical sword.
With a stupidass hilt like that, you cant make atleast half of those moves without stabbing yourself in the stomach, shoulder or chopping your own arm off with it.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Leesin on November 29, 2014, 05:34:32 pm
Yeah I'm not even a Star Wars nerd/fanboy, but the Lightsaber is just lame as fuck and everyone who had something to do with it being a part of the movie is an idiot lol. The lightsabers are a huge part of Star Wars and one of the coolest parts too, why gay it up with a retarded and childish design idea which is also a massive design flaw.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Thomek on November 29, 2014, 06:10:40 pm
Let's see.. I got a retro, back to the roots kinda vibe from this teaser.

About the lightsabre.. well they had to come up with something. What would u want? Curved lightsabers? :D
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Sparvico on November 29, 2014, 07:14:25 pm
IS the cross guard in the movie asinine? Yes. Is the idea of not having anything to protect your motherfucking hand from a motherfucking sword of pure goddamn light and pain also asinine? Yes.

At least it's a step in the right direction. Now it just needs to not look stupid.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: njames89 on November 29, 2014, 07:16:35 pm
Yeah the crossguard was a lelele moment. I am still hardcore nerd hyped. *empire music plays*
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Xant on November 29, 2014, 07:41:19 pm
IS the cross guard in the movie asinine? Yes. Is the idea of not having anything to protect your motherfucking hand from a motherfucking sword of pure goddamn light and pain also asinine? Yes.

At least it's a step in the right direction. Now it just needs to not look stupid.
A step in the right direction? What? No, it's not. It's ten times more asinine. It's a hundred times more dangerous than not having a crossguard. It does not make any sense whatsoever. Especially since if that material where the crossguard-lightsaber comes out of it can't protect against another lightsaber, the entire design is pointless. If it can? Then it's also pointless. You could've just made a crossguard out of that material.

Most importantly, it looks dumb as fuck. It's about as cool as something very uncool.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: WarLord on November 29, 2014, 07:51:03 pm
The sound/look of a lightsaber always made me think two blades meeting had a sort of "stickiness" to it and that's why they didn't have guards.

This. This a hundred times.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: njames89 on November 29, 2014, 07:51:51 pm
Yeah I agree that is kindof implied the way they mash their swords together at angles and the blades don't slide.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Voncrow on November 29, 2014, 08:00:02 pm
is also a massive design flaw.

Death Star?

Also sparv has a good point with the cortosis, but adding a guard made of only cortosis along the emitter would make more sense. And I'd also agree trying new stuff is general a step in the right direction,  they may even have a logical use for it in the movie, who knows.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Sparvico on November 29, 2014, 09:57:41 pm
A step in the right direction? What? No, it's not. It's ten times more asinine. It's a hundred times more dangerous than not having a crossguard. It does not make any sense whatsoever. Especially since if that material where the crossguard-lightsaber comes out of it can't protect against another lightsaber, the entire design is pointless. If it can? Then it's also pointless. You could've just made a crossguard out of that material.

Most importantly, it looks dumb as fuck. It's about as cool as something very uncool.

Yes I completely agree with you. It looks dumb as fuck. The idea of a cross-guard on a light saber is a step in the right direction however.

The sound/look of a lightsaber always made me think two blades meeting had a sort of "stickiness" to it and that's why they didn't have guards.

Eh those blades don't really look like they are "sticking" to me. Also having one's blade stick to one's opponents blade would make it really difficult to fight. That said this is all "fiction", could quite possibly be some kinda interference when two lightsabers meet.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Tibe on November 30, 2014, 07:57:55 am
I thought they always used to boldly claim that lightsabers were a difficult weapon to use and that an untrained person is more liekly to wound themself that do anything useful with it? (that was always their bullshit excuse why every soldier didnt carry one), but lightsabers so far have looked really user-friendly and Han used one with no trouble which makes you wonder why everyone doesnt use them.

Cause guns pewpew from a distance, lightsabers dont and cause normal people dont have the reflexes to block projectiles with their swords. How do the jedi have these reflexes just randomly since birth? Cause in the movies they just have em and their power is just detectable by other guys who have that power. In Star Wars everything can be explained with the words "cuz force", like in Warhammer everything comes down to "cuz Warp" or "cuz Emperor". And Han used a lightsaber? lol. I looked it up. The only time he ever used one in the movies was just to open that frozen camelthing open. Even if he did, like actually use it, we could still throw the "cuz force allowed him" argument in there. :lol:
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Smoothrich on November 30, 2014, 08:13:04 am
pretty sure the point was to get people shitposting about the trailer all across the internet a full year in advance for free marketing

looks like the lightsaber gimmick and trailer cut did exactly that.

how does it feel to waste your words ripping on the trailer and the designs, when in reality you are just taking the bait and giving more money to george lucas with every post?
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Tibe on November 30, 2014, 08:33:27 am
Dont really care. Everyone is gonna watch that movie anyway. Star Wars is practically the core part of the Western culture.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Johnnyfirs on November 30, 2014, 08:46:47 am
Only on meleeforums can a thread derail so much because of two seconds featuring a impractical sword. Be it historical 'accurate' movies or fucking star wars, you guys are ready to chop the poor designer to pieces - love it!  :D
But seriously...
Let's see.. I got a retro, back to the roots kinda vibe from this teaser.
Let's talk about the actual teaser now? I feel the same as Thomek, I thought they kinda hit the old atmosphere. When I heard Disney was making it I was afraid the movie would be more comical than scifi. The teaser is not really giving that vibe, or is it just me?
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: GandalfJr on November 30, 2014, 09:46:39 am
Meh it looks pretty shit, but I'll still watch it for the sake of boredom
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Vibe on November 30, 2014, 01:45:48 pm
how does it feel to waste your words ripping on the trailer and the designs, when in reality you are just taking the bait and giving more money to george lucas with every post?

like we give a fuck
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Sparvico on November 30, 2014, 05:24:36 pm
how does it feel to waste your words ripping on the trailer and the designs, when in reality you are just taking the bait and giving more money to george lucas with every post?

Fucking idiot. Nobody directly makes money off of what we post on this forum, especially not George Lucas, as he doesn't own the rights to Star Wars anymore. How is it you feel compelled to post in every thread no matter how little you actually know about the topic at hand?
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Xant on December 01, 2014, 12:25:19 am
Yeah, uh, how exactly are we "giving more money to George Lucas?"

It's not like everyone here isn't gonna watch it, whether we talk about it or not.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Smoothrich on December 01, 2014, 01:31:20 am
Did you know George Lucas owns two billion dollars in Disney stock and is the single largest living shareholder?

Don't realize viral YouTube hits reposted on forums for more hits is the entire point of Internet marketing?  Every click feeds Google Disney and George Lucas more money. Inflates expected box office receipts for shady jew accounting as well.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Xant on December 01, 2014, 02:46:12 am
Did you know George Lucas owns two billion dollars in Disney stock and is the single largest living shareholder?

Don't realize viral YouTube hits reposted on forums for more hits is the entire point of Internet marketing?  Every click feeds Google Disney and George Lucas more money. Inflates expected box office receipts for shady jew accounting as well.
What a horrible personal loss to me.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: lombardsoup on December 01, 2014, 02:52:33 am
Hits for a trailer don't matter if the movie bombs.  Remaining hopeful, but there's a faint smell of cheese in the air.

I, II, III were enough of a blow, my poor old nerd heart can't take another
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Smoothrich on December 01, 2014, 07:53:32 am
Revenge of the Sith is legitimately great. The last half of that movie is silly melodramatic space opera done right.

Also the idea of this movie bombing is retarded. You are about to be immersed in a Star Wars circlejerk with annual releases and theatrical spin offs  (Boba Fett standalone script already done I believe) and EA videogames by Battlefield's DICE.

Disney is going to run this shit into the ground. Probably get some good movies though but god damn Star Wars is going to be dumped on our faces real soon nonstop. This is just the beginning.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Weren on December 01, 2014, 03:13:35 pm
http://i.imgur.com/Xc6mozE.mp4 (http://i.imgur.com/Xc6mozE.mp4)

Seriously though, I too think that the crossguard is step in the right direction and the benefits it offers overweigh the risks.
However I have to admit the one in the film doesn't look very aesthetically pleasing.

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Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Voncrow on December 01, 2014, 03:41:11 pm
http://i.imgur.com/Xc6mozE.mp4 (http://i.imgur.com/Xc6mozE.mp4)

Seriously though, I too think that the crossguard is step in the right direction and the benefits it offers overweigh the risks.
However I have to admit the one in the film doesn't look very aesthetically pleasing.

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The biggest problem I have with the trailer is they have a lightsaber design that they could have made work, but not it's like fuck it, this works. This would have been a big jump for advancing the ideas of new lightsaber types, which I'm completely down with, but they tripped up on it this time. On another note.

Revenge of the Sith is legitimately great. The last half of that movie is silly melodramatic space opera done right.

Also the idea of this movie bombing is retarded. You are about to be immersed in a Star Wars circlejerk with annual releases and theatrical spin offs  (Boba Fett standalone script already done I believe) and EA videogames by Battlefield's DICE.

Disney is going to run this shit into the ground. Probably get some good movies though but god damn Star Wars is going to be dumped on our faces real soon nonstop. This is just the beginning.

I'd agree Revenge of the Sith was good for the most parts, and Episode 1 and 2 opened up the Expanded Universe enough to allow some great things to happen so I'm also fine with them. I'm also a fan of the New Jedi Order Era, which is basically everything after the orginal trilogy, and I'm most lamenting the fact that they are probably gonna tear all of it down. More than two decades worth of Lore rejected. Which is probably the case with part of the fan base anyway since they don't/ didn't care.  Oh well, maybe this will have some good stuff come from as well.
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Post by: Voncrow on December 01, 2014, 05:07:12 pm
I'm in 2 different nerd minds about it, on the one hand it's a fun diversion and it'd be a shame to remove it all, but on the other hand most of it completely devalues the entire point of the original trilogy and i'd be glad to see it go/be overruled:

If the classic story is about Anakin's fall and redemption, the idea of the Emperor having clones of himself or surviving or whatever completely ruins it, making Return of the Jedi and Vader's sacrifice kinda pointless from a storytelling perspective. And noone wants something that makes the good films less good.

As long as the 7th film doesnt do anything that makes the original trilogy shit then i'm happy, even more so if it totally destroys all of the more cringeworthy expanded universe stuff (not all of it). Then again, if it does we can just do what we did with Indiana Jones 4 and pretend it never happened.

This, there is a lot of garbage out there with the gems, but you are still throwing out the gems, plus what comes may be better than what we had. So it's a sit and wait kind of thing where you are either anxious to see how good things turn out or dreading how bad things turn out. More than anything it's your state of mind here that determines how you feel about this. And with the New trilogy and the cartoons, people probably don't have a lot of hope out there for the most part. But it's still a wait and see thing, people on this forum probably have more experience with that at least.
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Post by: darmaster on December 01, 2014, 05:25:25 pm
Did you know George Lucas owns two billion dollars in Disney stock and is the single largest living shareholder?

Don't realize viral YouTube hits reposted on forums for more hits is the entire point of Internet marketing?  Every click feeds Google Disney and George Lucas more money. Inflates expected box office receipts for shady jew accounting as well.

AD BLOCK AHAHAHAHAHAH my old friend
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Post by: Xant on December 01, 2014, 05:36:18 pm
Also, that whole concept is retarded. As if anyone who saw it linked here wouldn't have watched the trailer at some point in any case. It's Star Wars. Take off your tinfoil hat.
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Post by: Sparvico on December 01, 2014, 06:00:48 pm
Honestly there are some parts of the Extended Universe (E.U.) I kinda hope Disney overwrites (fucking palpatine clones). That said there are plenty off odd years(in the existing  E.U. Timeline) here and there for Disney to write new stories in without necessarily overwriting the old canon.  Worse case secnario as I see it is that two divergent timelines develop for the Star Wars Universe. The Old Testament of the E.U. Books and Such Canon, and the New Testament of the Disney and Such Canon.  Either way it means new Star Wars content for me to obsess over, and that is quite alright.


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Post by: Swaggart on December 01, 2014, 07:13:52 pm
Han shooting that green motherfucker was what made Han the badass he was. Good thing Lucas isn't involved anymore.
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Post by: Herezy92 on December 01, 2014, 07:25:37 pm
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Well if they don't change the Extended universe, something around +25 years after the Battle of Yavin IV, there is a new extra-galactic race invading the Star Wars' galaxy. The Yuuzhan Vong race.

It would have been interesting to have the 3 factions in this new trilogy.
The first episode, it's like "the good old times" With the new republic fighting the old Empire.
And then, step by step, they will have to ally if they want to beat the Extra-galactic alien invasion. (like in the books if i'm correct)
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But sadly, i'm afraid that it wont be something original like this. And i think it will stay a very basic story. ("basic" for movies, because books goes deeper in the universe)
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Post by: Sparvico on December 01, 2014, 10:41:42 pm
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Well if they don't change the Extended universe, something around +25 years after the Battle of Yavin IV, there is a new extra-galactic race invading the Star Wars' galaxy. The Yuuzhan Vong race.

It would have been interesting to have the 3 factions in this new trilogy.
The first episode, it's like "the good old times" With the new republic fighting the old Empire.
And then, step by step, they will have to ally if they want to beat the Extra-galactic alien invasion. (like in the books if i'm correct)
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But sadly, i'm afraid that it wont be something original like this. And i think it will stay a very basic story. ("basic" for movies, because books goes deeper in the universe)

The Yuuzhan Vong story arc is probably the most original Star Wars arc you can find, always sorta bugged me they went back to the same basic "Jedi falls to the dark side" shtick for the Legacy of the Force arc, though I did enjoy Boba Fetts story within that story arc.

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Post by: Moncho on December 01, 2014, 10:48:14 pm
You know Sparvico, the spoilers go inside the spoiler tag, and the warning outside.
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Post by: Sparvico on December 01, 2014, 10:56:52 pm
I mean the books have only been out for well on a decade or more now. Sooooo.

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Post by: Moncho on December 01, 2014, 11:00:28 pm
Nah I don't really care, all the info about SW I get from online wikis, was really just writing some random post on the thread to follow it
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Post by: Sparvico on December 01, 2014, 11:01:39 pm
Also spoilers I guess, but really you were never going to read them anyway.

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Post by: Thorvic on December 01, 2014, 11:45:13 pm
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Post by: Leshma on December 02, 2014, 01:08:15 am
Honestly there are some parts of the Extended Universe (E.U.)

Didn't they say Extended Universe isn't and never be canonical and they don't give a shit about it?
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Post by: Sparvico on December 02, 2014, 03:16:36 am
Didn't they say Extended Universe isn't and never be canonical and they don't give a shit about it?

Quite possible, news to me though. Then again I pretty much ignore anything Lucas et all say these days.
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Post by: Smoothrich on December 02, 2014, 10:14:14 am
Didn't they say Extended Universe isn't and never be canonical and they don't give a shit about it?

Of course they did. Shitty books for pre teen autists don't make money so they aren't "canon" whatever that means for a fictional universe.

Disney and EA are canon, not two-bit dimestore authors that Lucas skimmed a cut from years ago.

No one posting in response to me understands a thing about Hollywood film production either. Thanks for embarrassing yourselves out of bizarre juvenile star wars fandom attachment that is no better, actually tangibly much more pathetic than, 13 year old girl Hunger Games fans.

At least Hunger Games has probably inspired millions of people to read or write their own books. Star Wars has inspired billions to make shitty posts on the internet. And will eventually make trillions from it.
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Post by: Xant on December 02, 2014, 10:15:46 am
No one posting in response to me understands a thing about Hollywood film production either. Thanks for embarrassing yourselves out of bizarre juvenile star wars fandom attachment that is no better, actually tangibly much more pathetic than, 13 year old girl Hunger Games fans.

At least Hunger Games has probably inspired millions of people to read or write their own books. Star Wars has inspired billions to make shitty posts on the internet. And will eventually make trillions from it.
You seem very confused.
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Post by: Vibe on December 02, 2014, 10:16:21 am
http://imgur.com/gallery/r1qtK lol
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Post by: lombardsoup on December 02, 2014, 10:27:20 am
http://imgur.com/gallery/r1qtK lol

lol so they're vents now
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Post by: Xant on December 02, 2014, 10:34:38 am
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Legit as fuck
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Post by: lombardsoup on December 02, 2014, 10:40:44 am
Somebody do chainsaw dickbutts
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Post by: Angantyr on December 02, 2014, 01:17:48 pm
You remind me of these girls in school asking at the age of 13: "What, you are still reading comics? That's for children, I'm too grown up for that." That really hurt me, 'should there be a time when I'm too old to like Asterix?' - Gladly I'm grown up now and know that it's not true.
Ha ha, I remember those kind of girls - didn't mean it like that. Asterix is great, original, and doesn't take itself too serious - unlike the modern SW movies. I can still enjoy some fantasy/Sci Fi games for example, or a good Arthur C. Clarke or Frank Herbert novel or short story. It's more about growing tired of the lack of originality (genre conventions aside), and the tendency to oversimplified, black and white storytelling and characters prevalent in the genres than an age question, I guess - though of course these things can be connected. I've always preferred non-fiction, but admittedly more so with age. I could probably still enjoy some of the better Star Wars expanded universe litterature, like the Thrawn Trilogy or perhaps some of the Legacy books (but can wonder how much of that is nostalgia), and I know I can still enjoy fantasy like the Silmarillion. I'd rather have some steam punk or post apocalyptic universe though, a modern take on the genre like A Song of Ice and Fire, if it must be fantastical, but rather fiction 'classics' (there's a lot of excellent 19th century litterature) or post-modern, but I'd still be more inclined to read history or philosophy.
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Post by: Xant on December 02, 2014, 02:05:09 pm
Ha ha, I remember those kind of girls - didn't mean it like that. Asterix is great, original, and doesn't take itself too serious - unlike the modern SW movies. I can still enjoy some fantasy/Sci Fi games for example, or a good Arthur C. Clarke or Frank Herbert novel or short story. It's more about growing tired of the lack of originality (genre conventions aside), and the tendency to oversimplified, black and white storytelling and characters prevalent in the genres than an age question, I guess - though of course these things can be connected. I've always preferred non-fiction, but admittedly more so with age. I could probably still enjoy some of the better Star Wars expanded universe litterature, like the Thrawn Trilogy or perhaps some of the Legacy books (but can wonder how much of that is nostalgia), and I know I can still enjoy fantasy like the Silmarillion. I'd rather have some steam punk or post apocalyptic universe though, a modern take on the genre like A Song of Ice and Fire, if it must be fantastical, but rather fiction 'classics' (there's a lot of excellent 19th century litterature) or post-modern, but I'd still be more inclined to read history or philosophy.
This.

Star Wars just has an extremely childish outlook on all things, it's very simple and, well, childish about every subject matter. That doesn't mean there aren't plenty of sci-fi settings that aren't good.
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Post by: njames89 on December 02, 2014, 04:56:31 pm
pretty sure the point was to get people shitposting about the trailer all across the internet a full year in advance for free marketing

My god... We've been had.
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Post by: Xant on December 02, 2014, 05:19:52 pm
I would like Smoothrich to provide some evidence for his claims, and then an estimation of just how many billions George Lucas has made because of this cRPG thread. I await with breath most bated.
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Post by: lombardsoup on December 02, 2014, 05:47:38 pm
I would like Smoothrich to provide some evidence for his claims, and then an estimation of just how many billions George Lucas has made because of this cRPG thread. I await with breath most bated.

That's pretty childish right there
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Post by: lombardsoup on December 02, 2014, 05:53:50 pm
Is this happening? Are we actually going to see Xant vs Smoothrich on a Star Wars thread? :O this thread has everything! Truly christmas has come early

Its every day on melee.org
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Post by: Xant on December 02, 2014, 08:58:53 pm
That's pretty childish right there
How, exactly, is it childish? He asks, even though he knows lombardsoup has never in his life made a logically coherent post.

But I guess actually asking for people to back up their conspiracy theories is childish. In the lombardsoup world.
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Post by: lombardsoup on December 02, 2014, 09:00:26 pm
How, exactly, is it childish? He asks, even though he knows lombardsoup has never in his life made a logically coherent post.

But I guess actually asking for people to back up their conspiracy theories is childish. In the lombardsoup world.

Case in point
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Post by: Vibe on December 03, 2014, 10:04:28 am
shut the fuck up you pieces of shit now back to lightsaber design

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Post by: Johnnyfirs on December 03, 2014, 12:43:12 pm
Is this happening? Are we actually going to see Xant vs Smoothrich on a Star Wars thread? :O this thread has everything! Truly christmas has come early
It seems my work here is done, then.
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Post by: darmaster on December 04, 2014, 02:31:05 am
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Post by: Admerius on December 04, 2014, 06:33:39 am
I have a bad feeling about this.

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Post by: SixThumbs on December 04, 2014, 04:17:44 pm
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Post by: Leshma on January 26, 2015, 12:26:43 am

Those graphics, dat voiceacting

This is the game I tried after finished JK 5 times in a row.
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Post by: lombardsoup on January 26, 2015, 01:31:08 am
Phantom Menace game was also very hard because if you killed Jar Jar

Should be rewarded for killing the worst character in the entire series
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Post by: Kafein on November 09, 2015, 05:58:21 pm
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RUINED
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Post by: LordBerenger on November 09, 2015, 09:29:09 pm
Lando looked a lot better (no homo...sapiens) than this guy
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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on December 06, 2015, 05:13:38 pm
That's why the game was hard... every time you slew the fell beast it was gameover.

Every time you left Padme to the mercy of ravenous robots it was gameover.

Every time Qui Gon cut down that evil menace threatening to slash..... (all his prices!) Anakin would say 'I wont help a murderer like you' and it's gameover.

Qui Gon goes on a dark killing spree: Gammoreans are like "That's it... NOW YOU DIE!!!" and try to chop you up. Loved it
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Post by: darmaster on December 06, 2015, 05:37:58 pm
Lando looked a lot better (no homo...sapiens) than this guy

he looked more whitish yes
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Post by: Asheram on December 17, 2015, 03:22:14 am
http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/quentin-tarantino-goes-ballistic-on-disney-accuses-studio-of-star-wars-extortion/ar-BBnDxWf?li=BBnb7Kz  wow Disney are you really this slimey?
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on December 18, 2015, 11:47:57 pm
Just watched the movie, any one else pleasantly surprised? I came in with little to no expectations, and came out wanting more. Id say thats a success.
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Post by: Jona on December 19, 2015, 05:17:15 am
I'd say I was satisfied... basically got what was expected. That is to say, I went in with high expectations and the movie met them all, maybe surpassed them... tough to tell. Still kinda riding the "OMG A NEW STAR WARS MOVIE!!!" hype train. Once the excitement has died down a little I'll be able to more accurately judge the movie.
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Post by: Admerius on December 19, 2015, 02:47:23 pm
Haven't seen, will not read anything here, I will just provide a classic star wars related pic to get you in the mood for crpg in game chat:
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Post by: LordBerenger on December 20, 2015, 09:14:11 am
Spoiler well...kinda

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Post by: Jona on December 20, 2015, 05:24:37 pm
Spoiler well...kinda

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Post by: Lt_Anders on December 21, 2015, 04:10:02 am
Kylo Ren: I once had a father, then I took a bowcaster to the knee.   :lol:
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on December 21, 2015, 04:23:37 am

Reviewed by the holy RedLetterMedia, creators of the quite internet famous plinkett reviews of the prequels.

Cant reccommend this channel enough, not only are they spot on with the reviews, their humour is unmatched.
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Post by: WarLord on December 22, 2015, 10:20:37 am
Only read if you already watched the movie!
Not a real spoiler though, just my personal opinion and judgement. But may contain things you don't want to read if you didn't watch the movie!


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Post by: Gravoth_iii on December 22, 2015, 08:40:34 pm

Somewhat related, the animator of the original trilogy. I adore stopmotion and practical effects, and i didnt know much about this guy, but he seems like a great fellow. Also he's working on a fully stopmotion filmed movie now which looks pretty amazing, released in 3 parts apparently but only 1 is out.

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Post by: Vibe on December 30, 2015, 07:02:49 pm
Seen it today.

In short, as a visual experience: yes
Anything else: no

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I honestly don't understand the praise this movie is getting. I heard all the hype around it before I watched, so I went in expecting too much, I guess.
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Post by: Voncrow on January 02, 2016, 05:42:36 am
Biggest surprise was how Darth Vader is Luke Skywalkers son.
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Post by: Vibe on January 02, 2016, 04:16:35 pm
Biggest surprise was how Darth Vader is Luke Skywalkers son.

Oh yeah? I thought it was how Dumbledore kills Aragorn.
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Post by: Xant on January 02, 2016, 06:42:33 pm
STAR WARS EPISODE III:
THE TRUTH OF THE SITH
ANAKIN is walking two steps behind PALPATINE. They enter into a room filled with sculptures and devices, all with a similar look, metallic shades of red.
ANAKIN: What are these?
PALPATINE: You don't recognize this style, the crimson and bronze? Truly, the Jedi have been... unbalanced, in their education of you. Reach out into the Force. What does it tell you?
ANAKIN stands motionless, then suddenly whirls on PALPATINE. His lightsaber ignites in his hand, a beam of solid blue, held steady.
ANAKIN: These are Sith artifacts! Then you - you're the -
PALPATINE raises his own hands to show them empty.
PALPATINE: Calm yourself, Jedi. I am not the Sith Lord they are looking for, only a... collector, of old knowledge. I brought you here to show you the truth. The truth that will allow you to save Padme.
ANAKIN holds his lightsaber steady. His feet carry him to one side as PALPATINE turns, ANAKIN keeping PALPATINE'S face within his view.
PALPATINE: A question, young Skywalker. Is the Dark Side of the Force more powerful than the Light Side?
ANAKIN: No. The Dark Side is easier, faster. Not more powerful.
PALPATINE: So they've told you. And yet Count Dooku was able to fight evenly with Master Yoda. The most powerful Jedi, eight hundred years trained in his art... could not overcome one Sith Lord. Perhaps the Jedi lied to you, for the obvious reason.
ANAKIN: Master Yoda grows old.
PALPATINE: Sith Lords, never more than two in number, have repeatedly troubled the entire Jedi Order and the galaxy itself. And another thing. Tell me why it is that Jedi fall to the Dark Side. Does a boy become a master criminal the moment he steals a loaf of bread? I think not. But a Jedi... let them slip, let them strike one innocent in a moment of passion... and they will begin slaughtering children within the hour. Sith Lords make elaborate plans to lure Jedi to strike once in hate, and then take them as apprentices upon the spot, in a way that defies all sense. Why is your kind so peculiarly... vulnerable?
ANAKIN's lightsaber wavers, then steadies itself.
ANAKIN: The Dark Side feeds upon itself.
PALPATINE: And so the Jedi are trained almost from birth never to feel too strongly, never to let passion to rule them, never to... love. And the penalty for violating those rules is... draconian. If such caution is needed, some might say the galaxy would be better off without any Jedi. It is fallen Jedi who rebirth the Sith after their suppression, over, and over again. Oh, you're fine fighters and diplomats, but one might wonder... are you Jedi worth the price the galaxy pays in convulsion after convulsion?
ANAKIN: If there were no Jedi Order, Chancellor, there would be no one at all to stop anyone who learned to use the Dark Side!
PALPATINE appears unperturbed.
PALPATINE: Mm. Perhaps.
PALPATINE runs his fingers lightly over one of the red-and-bronze artifacts.
PALPATINE: Let us consider another question. There is a saying: zero, one, and infinity are the only numbers that need no justification. If we found that there seemed to be exactly one other universe parallel to our own, wouldn't we look for others? Zero universes would make sense, one universe would make sense, a continuous spectrum would make sense, but it would be strange for there to be exactly two universes. So tell me, Anakin. Why does the Force have two sides?
ANAKIN seems increasingly disturbed.
ANAKIN: Are you saying there is more than just the Dark Side and the Light Side?
PALPATINE: Quite the opposite. What is the Force, where does it come from? Not from Midichlorians, certainly, despite what fashionably-cynical scientists claim to believe. So vast a power, clearly of a mental nature - being generated by one species of bacteria with no interconnection among its cells, no ability to think? It seems... unlikely. Midichlorians are attracted to Force users, perhaps they feed somehow on the Force, but they are not its origin. Is the Force generated by all living creatures, connecting all of us? Then why is there no Side of the Force for the passions that so many sapient races feel, to which neither the Light Side nor Dark Side lay claim?
PALPATINE takes a step toward ANAKIN, seeming careless of the blue lightsaber pointing at him. PALPATINE'S voice begins to drop into a dark, whispering growl.
PALPATINE: What is the Force, Anakin? Answer me. Answer!
ANAKIN takes a deep breath, exhales, and steadies himself.
PALPATINE: No. Do not ask the Force. Not this question. Use logic instead, Anakin. Don't feel the answer. Think it! You already know all you need to know. The discipline with which Jedi are trained almost from birth, never to feel too much emotion. The speed with which they fall after they slip even once. The power they gain after their fall. Their similarity of goals, speech, the same black hooded cloak worn by every Sith Lord. All because -
ANAKIN (whispers): There is no Light Side of the Force.
PALPATINE gestures at the Sith artifacts.
PALPATINE: There is only a single psychic phenomenon that pervades the galaxy. I don't know what the Dark Side of the Force, which is to say, the Force, is. The dying scream of some ancient race that destroyed itself, echoing through a mental dimension? A species whose faces were inset within natural hoods, who had a gliding wing resembling a black cloak? A race that hunted in pairs, and saw in shades of crimson and bronze? Whose name was a sound like a hiss, ssthhh? Now that you know the truth, your guess is as good as mine.
PALPATINE takes another step toward ANAKIN, almost touching the lightsaber's beam.
PALPATINE: What the galaxy calls a Jedi is just a Dark Side user who has been trained to deny themselves, not to feel strong emotions... to ignore the whisperings of the power they invoke. And make no mistake, the most senior Jedi know this. That is why the Jedi Council has resisted every attempt to spread knowledge of the Force more widely. Why the Force cannot be used by day laborers to load a shuttlecraft, why we do not see Force healers in hospitals. Instead there is a tiny Order that kidnaps every naturally awakening Force user as soon as they are old enough to have a Midichlorian count. And then... why then, the Jedi Order forbids you to breed. It has nothing to do with avoiding passion. The Jedi could sustain their numbers using uterine replicators... if any of the important people thought that having more Jedi was a good thing. Already the number of Jedi is a hundredth part of what it was a millennium earlier. In time, it is hoped by all those who are in the know, the Galaxy will have solved the... problem, of the Force.
ANAKIN is shaking. He shuts off the lightsaber and sheathes it at his belt in a practiced motion.
ANAKIN: Thank you for telling me this, Chancellor. How does knowing this help me save Padme?
PALPATINE puts a comforting arm around Anakin's shoulder, and guides him toward a bench on the wall, sitting down together with him.
PALPATINE: Anakin, listen to me. If the other knowledge that I've collected is correct... then there have been Sith Lords whose power grew so great that they could sustain or even create life itself. Prevent themselves, or a few favored others, from dying. Darth Plagueis was one such, to name a recent instance.
ANAKIN: I will never join the Sith! Even less now that I know what they are!
PALPATINE: Your Midichlorian count is unheard-of, and you have already overcome Count Dooku, a full Sith Lord. I believe you can become strong enough to use Darth Plagueis's technique without falling yourself. All you need to do... is loosen your Jedi strictures, just a little further, and then you will have power enough to save Padme. The Jedi are... conservative, in the rules they demand. They leave safety margin.
ANAKIN: Do... do you really think that would be all it took? That I could do that and remain myself?
PALPATINE: In older times there were Force users who went beyond what today's Order allows, without submerging into that alien whisper. Their knowledge has not been entirely lost to collectors like me.
ANAKIN: But why... why would you help me that much? You'd be taking a grave risk... no, I see. After I save Padme... you'd want me to extend your own life as well, I suppose.
PALPATINE chuckles lowly.
PALPATINE: It's frustrating, to have learned of so many possibilities, and yet be unable to wield them myself. I have waited long to find a Jedi with your power and your... reasonable outlook on the morality of life extension. So I'll help you, Anakin, and you'll help me, and we'll keep each other's secrets afterwards.
ANAKIN: I understand. Then, tell me all you know of the older Force users and their ways.
PALPATINE smiles benevolently, gently, like a great and powerful grandfather.
PALPATINE: I'll do my best to guide you in that path, Anakin Skywalker.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Angantyr on January 02, 2016, 08:58:55 pm
Where is it from?
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 Teaser
Post by: Xant on January 02, 2016, 09:07:22 pm
https://www.facebook.com/yudkowsky/posts/10153845777444228

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