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Title: More payment methods please.
Post by: Panos_ on November 24, 2014, 03:12:34 pm
Amazon is shit, it doesn`t have paypal option, nor paysafe card.

Please donkey team, I want to spend my money, why are you torturing me like this?
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on November 24, 2014, 03:15:24 pm
It's not donkey team, they have no say in this. Kickstarter has only that method and there is nothing anybody can do about it  :(
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Molly on November 24, 2014, 03:16:27 pm
I don't think that the DonkeyCrew has actual influence on the payment method... Dunno for sure tho, just can't imagine that.

Can't you just ask a buddy for his CC and pay him back or something?
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Panos_ on November 24, 2014, 03:19:45 pm
I don't think that the DonkeyCrew has actual influence on the payment method... Dunno for sure tho, just can't imagine that.

Can't you just ask a buddy for his CC and pay him back or something?

I have a visa myself, but the thing is that I lost it somewhere in the house after I moved, and I can`t find it, and that fucks me up because I can`t go to the bank to retrieve it due to lack of time.

I was hoping for a paypal transaction , maybe I could transfer the money to the paypal account of one of the donkey crew members.

Anyway, Ill see if any of my chump friends has a card I can use

Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Micah on November 24, 2014, 03:20:11 pm
Is there a possibility to make an unofficial community pledge collection by PayPal of an neutral/secure party/person for all the people that cant use credit cards and then this one person puts it into kickstarter ? Please .. i really want to back some money .. but, i really cant use credit card :(
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Molly on November 24, 2014, 03:27:20 pm
Is there a possibility to make an unofficial community pledge collection by PayPal of an neutral/secure party/person for all the people that cant use credit cards and then this one person puts it into kickstarter ? Please .. i really want to back some money .. but, i really cant use credit card :(
Nobody you know has a CC?
Your parents? Your grandparents? Buddies? Uncles? Aunts?

I mean, they don't have to understand why you would "waste money on this modern crap"... they just to let you borrow their card for one single transaction and you give them cash or something...

There are still 26 days to go. Enough time to find someone. Certainly way easier than your idea x)
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Erasmas on November 24, 2014, 03:28:31 pm
Kikstarter has its own payment rules, as stupid as they may be. The Crew has no influence on it.

Is there a possibility to make an unofficial community pledge collection by PayPal of an neutral/secure party/person for all the people that cant use credit cards and then this one person puts it into kickstarter ? Please .. i really want to back some money .. but, i really cant use credit card :(

This actually is a good idea... if it is possible to find a trustworthy person with high credit credibility :rolleyes:

Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Gnjus on November 24, 2014, 04:27:09 pm
I have a visa myself, but the thing is that I lost it somewhere in the house after I moved, and I can`t find it, and that fucks me up because I can`t go to the bank to retrieve it due to lack of time.

I was hoping for a paypal transaction , maybe I could transfer the money to the paypal account of one of the donkey crew members.

Anyway, Ill see if any of my chump friends has a card I can use

So the rumors were true: Zimke's Bascinet is going to Greece.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: agweber on November 24, 2014, 05:00:02 pm
Is there a way to buy an amazon gift card via paypal, and then use that card directly or add the balance to an amazon account?

I've been considering going to the store and buying a bunch of prepaid cards and then selling them to you guys via paypal.. XD
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on November 24, 2014, 05:32:35 pm
Is there a possibility to make an unofficial community pledge collection by PayPal of an neutral/secure party/person for all the people that cant use credit cards and then this one person puts it into kickstarter ? Please .. i really want to back some money .. but, i really cant use credit card :(

The idea has also the disadvantage is that all participating count only as 1 backer. Still better then not pledging at all, but if you each count as 1 individual backer you help the project get higher on KS ranking.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Erasmas on November 24, 2014, 05:45:28 pm
All in all cash is more important than no of backers IMHO. (although no of backers is important too for project promotion within KS ofc). The same actually applies to clan packs - one reward for the benefit of few guys...

I bet all clan rewards are funded by few guys, while the "formal" benefits go to one guy who actually made the pledge.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Casul on November 24, 2014, 05:52:49 pm
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same here, want to pledge 150 dollarz but have no possibility over kickstarter .-.



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Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Falka on November 24, 2014, 05:58:11 pm
You need virtual prepaid card. You can buy it online. E.g. here: https://www.entropay.com/

And I want to claryify something.

all the people that cant use credit cards

I think it doesn't have to be actual CREDITcard, just simple cash card (if that's the proper name), which you get from your bank and which allows you to withdraw cash from cashpoint. In the past I paid in amazon by cash card and I guess you do have cash card. Everyone has it :P
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: lombardsoup on November 24, 2014, 06:00:26 pm
Need an anonymous donation method please
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: agweber on November 24, 2014, 06:04:44 pm
Need an anonymous donation method please

Make new accounts on KS/Amazon?
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: lombardsoup on November 24, 2014, 06:06:50 pm
Make new accounts on KS/Amazon?

Still traceable.

As nice as the donkey crew is, I don't want them having access to my real name/address etc ie just take my money and STFU

Need an anonymous donation method please, would make this so much easier
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Bittersteel on November 24, 2014, 06:16:15 pm
No one gives enough of shits to trace you down and steal your money (Hah, like you got any anyways) LOMBARDsoup
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Molly on November 24, 2014, 06:17:18 pm
Still traceable.

As nice as the donkey crew is, I don't want them having access to my real name/address etc ie just take my money and STFU

Need an anonymous donation method please, would make this so much easier
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Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: lombardsoup on November 24, 2014, 06:18:08 pm
Guess you don't want money then

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Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Utrakil on November 24, 2014, 06:20:21 pm
Still traceable.

As nice as the donkey crew is, I don't want them having access to my real name/address etc ie just take my money and STFU

Need an anonymous donation method please, would make this so much easier
You can use any name and you can always open a new e-mail account (with fake data) .
Your username, e-mailaccount and pledged money is the only information Donkeycrew will get. They will not see any creditkard details(like name).
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Nessaj on November 24, 2014, 06:26:26 pm
You can use any name and you can always open a new e-mail account (with fake data) .
Your username, e-mailaccount and pledged money is the only information Donkeycrew will get. They will not see any creditkard details(like name).

This is all true, except that (as far as I can see in the backers panel atm) we can only see people's usernames, even sending message/mails is strictly through Kickstarter's functions.

So there should be no worries at all for those who want to remain completely anonymous  :wink:
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: lombardsoup on November 24, 2014, 06:27:50 pm
Cleared things up a bit, thank you
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Utrakil on November 24, 2014, 06:34:48 pm
Now doooooo it!
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Kafein on November 24, 2014, 06:57:52 pm
Please accept Bitcoin donations too.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Teeth on November 24, 2014, 07:03:34 pm
I think it doesn't have to be actual CREDITcard, just simple cash card (if that's the proper name), which you get from your bank and which allows you to withdraw cash from cashpoint. In the past I paid in amazon by cash card and I guess you do have cash card. Everyone has it :P
What makes you say that? Can't find any info on that on the net and every option available to me requires a credit card code. What's the deal with credit cards these days anyway, do all of them require annual service payments still? Ah well, time to go all 'Dad, buy me stuff'.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Utrakil on November 24, 2014, 07:09:13 pm
For me my credit ard actually saves me money. it gives better interest rate than my bankacount and moneywithdrawal outside of my homecountry is for free with it.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Leshma on November 24, 2014, 07:10:16 pm
Debit card =/= credit card

Only people who have proper job can have a credit card, main purpose of a credit card is to make it easier to spend more than you actually earn, that way banks effectively enslave people and whole countries :D

Debit card is just like a credit card but for jobless and those who don't want to risk their salary (and more). You go to the bank, ask for internet debit card or whatever they call it in that particular bank. Sign some papers, they open bank account for you (which isn't tied to your salary, it is empty at first, before you actually deposit euros to that account). After a week (in Serbia) or less they will call you to pick up your debit card which you can use to pay for stuff over the internet, where PayPal isn't available. That account should be free to open and there shouldn't be any hidden expenses over time. Debit cards lasts between 2 and 5 years, before you have to renew it.

Must say that I expected EU master race to know about these things :P
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: lombardsoup on November 24, 2014, 07:13:52 pm
Debit card =/= credit card

Only people who have proper job can have a credit card, main purpose of a credit card is to make it easier to spend more than you actually earn, that way banks effectively enslave people and whole countries :D

Debit card is just like a credit card but for jobless and those who don't want to risk their salary (and more). You go to the bank, ask for internet debit card or whatever they call it in that particular bank. Sign some papers, they open bank account for you (which isn't tied to your salary, it is empty at first, before you actually deposit euros to that account). After a week (in Serbia) or less they will call you to pick up your debit card which you can use to pay for stuff over the internet, where PayPal isn't available. That account should be free to open and there shouldn't be any hidden expenses over time. Debit cards lasts between 2 and 5 years, before you have to renew it.

Must say that I expected EU master race to know about these things :P

I had to prove employment for a debit card too, depends on the financial institution.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Nessaj on November 24, 2014, 07:14:02 pm
We would love to accept everything (even bitcoin etc) but Amazon payments is how Kickstarter operates. There's no way to add paypal or other methods sadly, then we would need to run our own private Kickstarter.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Falka on November 24, 2014, 07:19:39 pm
What makes you say that? Can't find any info on that on the net and every option available to me requires a credit card code.

I pledged with prepaid card now, but few years ago I've bought some stuff on amazon using cash card (debit card? dunno what's the difference), so since KS uses amazon payment I assumed cash card will be sufficient for KS as well.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201132730
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Types of Credit and Debit Cards That Can Be Used

Amazon.com accepts a variety of payment options, including credit and debit cards.

The following credit and debit cards can be used as payment:

    Visa (including the Amazon.com Rewards Visa Card )
    Amazon.com Store Card
    MasterCard/EuroCard
    Discover Network
    American Express
    Diner's Club (U.S. billing addresses only)
    JCB
    NYCE
    STAR
    China UnionPay (credit card only)
    Visa, MasterCard, or American Express pre-paid credit or gift cards
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: agweber on November 24, 2014, 07:26:11 pm
What makes you say that? Can't find any info on that on the net and every option available to me requires a credit card code. What's the deal with credit cards these days anyway, do all of them require annual service payments still? Ah well, time to go all 'Dad, buy me stuff'.

I've got three or four credit cards that have no annual payments. Hell, one I have I didn't use for about 3 years, but just used it last month. They get their payment via ~3% fee to the shops. I do have one card that has an annual fee, but my wife and I spend so much on it that we get that fee back in (cash) rewards several times over (and we pay it off in full every month so no interest)
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Micah on November 24, 2014, 07:31:25 pm
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well  .. for me it looks all debit cards i found (i guess its whats called prepaid credit cards im my area) require me to sign an contract over multiple years at an institution .. with fees of 25€ and more after the first year. There are some reasons why people do not like this and they should be forced to sign such contracts just for an one-time-purchase. Im really not familiar with credit cards, nor do i want to bind myself on such. Im not sure what hidden costs are connected to any of those paying methods .. and in all honesty, i dont trust any of you guys comments more than my gut-feeling that it might be a bad idea.

However, the question is not really about why anybody here does want or not want to use these paying methods ... but about an alternative. I would prefer to keep it at that.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Utrakil on November 24, 2014, 07:34:08 pm
There simply is no althernative!  8-)
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Hirlok on November 24, 2014, 07:46:37 pm
complimentary Indiegogo campaign, flexible funding, Paypal payments.

Problem solved and food and booze for devs secure even if the Kickstarter should stall and fail.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on November 24, 2014, 07:50:28 pm
I've got me a credit card a couple of month ago with no payment at all (except of course I don't repay on time) and I am a Student with part-time job. Before that I had a virtual credit card from Netteller, worked fine for my purpose (accessing google play, etc. did no payments with that dunno what it costs)
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Molly on November 24, 2014, 07:52:18 pm
I've got me a credit card a couple of month ago with no payment at all (except of course I don't repay on time) and I am a Student with part-time job. Before that I had a virtual credit card from Netteller, worked fine for my purpose (accessing google play, etc. did no payments with that dunno what it costs)
Same. Officially student working part-time. My bank gave me a free Visa. I only use it online when PayPal isn't an option.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Teeth on November 24, 2014, 08:10:44 pm
The question remains, what do you put in at credit card code, because I have a debit card and I tried every number on it, but it doesn't work.

Edit: Apparently Dutchland banks don't really support using your debit card as a credit card, so only credit cards for me.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: [ptx] on November 24, 2014, 08:25:49 pm
Errr, there isn't a xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx formatted code on your card? wot.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: MeevarTheMighty on November 24, 2014, 09:48:22 pm
If the Kickstarter succeeds, will Donkey Crew make their own store for continued pledging?
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: lombardsoup on November 24, 2014, 09:50:13 pm
If the Kickstarter succeeds, will Donkey Crew make their own store for continued pledging?

Should probably concentrate on one goal at a time before jumping the gun, and $130,000 is a pretty big first hurdle
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: AwesomeHail on November 24, 2014, 11:22:07 pm
Amazon is shit, it doesn`t have paypal option, nor paysafe card.

Please donkey team, I want to spend my money, why are you torturing me like this?

the only way ill be able to donate is probably paysafe :)

better make it available so you get those donations!
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Kafein on November 24, 2014, 11:46:19 pm
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201132730

My debit card only does Maestro, so no Amazon payments. Finding an amazon gift card seems more difficult than I thought. So it's going to be a virtual credit card.

We would love to accept everything (even bitcoin etc) but Amazon payments is how Kickstarter operates. There's no way to add paypal or other methods sadly, then we would need to run our own private Kickstarter.

The problem with splitting your funding campaigns is that it means splitting the money which inevitably leads to each campaign looking like it has less money and fewer backers than you actually have.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on November 25, 2014, 10:50:43 am
the only way ill be able to donate is probably paysafe :)

better make it available so you get those donations!


We would love to accept everything (even bitcoin etc) but Amazon payments is how Kickstarter operates. There's no way to add paypal or other methods sadly, then we would need to run our own private Kickstarter.


Like said many times before, nobody can make that available. The only way you can help them with the Kickstarter is that you find someone with a credit card or that you get one yourself.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: cup457 on November 25, 2014, 05:09:20 pm
i pay with debit card. My debit card is from my "checking" account in the over account I have at my bank. I have Savings and Checking. Savings is usually just a basic place to store money and get a little interest. Because I have a mastercard debit card I can use it almost anywhere that I can for credit. But then amazon is also an American company so it would make sense.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Sparvico on November 25, 2014, 05:45:56 pm
i pay with debit card. My debit card is from my "checking" account in the over account I have at my bank. I have Savings and Checking. Savings is usually just a basic place to store money and get a little interest. Because I have a mastercard debit card I can use it almost anywhere that I can for credit. But then amazon is also an American company so it would make sense.

Yes these Europeees do seem to have trouble at our 'murrican institutions. Quite simple over here, a Debit Card is essentially an electronic cheque, tied directly to whatever money one has in one's checking account. Silly Europees. Wot wot.

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Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on November 29, 2014, 10:12:16 am
If anybody is looking to support the kickstarter, but absolutely cannot do it because they lack proper payment methods, please private message me. I can only do it once, but I'll give you the card information for a pre-paid visa debit card I received recently. It has a total of $25 on it, so I reckon you could get alpha access off that, right?

I'd rather that money go to the game than some dumb shit for me. I believe my big-dick clanmate has bought us a big-dick package, so my alpha access should be covered.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 29, 2014, 12:23:32 pm
Yes these Europeees do seem to have trouble at our 'murrican institutions. Quite simple over here, a Debit Card is essentially an electronic cheque, tied directly to whatever money one has in one's checking account. Silly Europees. Wot wot.

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Basically the same in England.

Got a credit card with a limit which you pay off per month and my debit card is basically a direct route from my main account which takes my real money as i spend it. Never use cash any more just my debit card and for expensive stuff the credit card.
Title: Re: More payment methods please.
Post by: Ikarus on November 29, 2014, 12:57:19 pm
yeh, more payment methods would be great