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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: FRANK_THE_TANK on October 06, 2014, 04:28:53 am

Title: Ballanced 2h War Hammer needed plox
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on October 06, 2014, 04:28:53 am

So to be blunt :3 we have plenty of options, but nothing really war hammery. Most importantly nothing balanced.

Anyway, I was looking for models when it hit me. The bec was a fucking war hammer.

Can we please have a balanced 2h war hammer that doesn't have crush through.

Basically, it's the bec on alt fire but reverse the stats. Use the same model until someone can do a re texture because fuck it. JUST DO EEEET!!!

Bec de facerearranger
weapon length: 120
weight: 2.8
difficulty: 15
speed rating: 94
weapon length: 120
thrust damage: 26 pierce
swing damage: 34 blunt
slots: 2
Secondary Mode

Title: Re: Ballanced 2h War Hammer needed plox
Post by: MURDERTRON on October 06, 2014, 05:10:26 am

I'm pretty sure that's better than a bar mace in every single way.

Title: Re: Ballanced 2h War Hammer needed plox
Post by: San on October 06, 2014, 05:29:16 am

I doubt something like that would be balanced.

You probably won't get much better than the Studded Warclub or Goedendag for balanced blunt. A balanced hammer would be even shorter than the Studded Warclub.

Title: Re: Ballanced 2h War Hammer needed plox
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on October 06, 2014, 06:36:52 am

Quote from: San on October 06, 2014, 05:29:16 am

I doubt something like that would be balanced.

You probably won't get much better than the Studded Warclub or Goedendag for balanced blunt. A balanced hammer would be even shorter than the Studded Warclub.

Why is the Bec Balanced?

Title: Re: Ballanced 2h War Hammer needed plox
Post by: San on October 06, 2014, 07:31:17 am

You hold polearms differently.

Title: Re: Ballanced 2h War Hammer needed plox
Post by: Huscarlton_Banks on October 06, 2014, 08:44:27 am

Polearm attacks have a much shorter reach than 2h attacks given the same weapon due to their animations.

Polearms tend to be balanced/swing faster/do less damage vs an equivalent effective reach 2h.

These are attempted stats of a 2h equivalent for bec-de-corbin without the unbalanced flag:

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Considering that a +3 Bec-de-Corbin (blunt mode) has the following stats:

Masterwork Bec de Corbin
weapon length: 120
weight: 2.8
difficulty: 15
speed rating: 95
thrust damage: 28 pierce
swing damage: 33 blunt
slots: 2
Knockdown

Upkeep: 756 gold

A +3 2h equivalent without the unbalanced flag would be something like:

Mighty Goedenhammer

1h/2h
weapon length: ~104-108
weight: 3.3
difficulty: 14
speed rating: 94
thrust damage: 23p (2h stab?)
swing damage: 33b (around the same as 45c weapons like miaodao)
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
Knockdown

Upkeep: ~700+ gold
Notes: Seems okay-ish vs Long Iron Mace/Bar Mace as a balanced, longer, weaker, less knockdown/stuns variant as long as it doesn't get horseback capabilities. Definitely OP vs Studded Warclub, though the upkeep is much higher.


Alternatively:

Mighty Bec-de-Morningstar

1h/2h
weapon length: ~80-84
weight: 3.5
difficulty: 15
speed rating: 94
swing damage: 37b (around the same as 49c)
slots: 2
Knockdown

Upkeep: ~700+ gold
Notes: Seems somewhat reasonable vs Morningstar, though Morningstar is generally considered an OP weapon.

Title: Re: Ballanced 2h War Hammer needed plox
Post by: Rico on October 06, 2014, 04:07:23 pm

Raylin has made a model for it, two versions with different lengths. We'll propose it in the Item Management forum today.