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Title: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: NejStark on September 21, 2014, 12:34:43 pm
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Next_100_Years#Overview

from wiki summary: 'In the 2010s, the conflict between the US and Islamic fundamentalists will die down, and a second Cold War, less extensive and shorter than the first, will take place between the United States and Russia. It will be characterized by Russian attempts to expand its sphere of influence into Central and Eastern Europe, coupled with a buildup of Russian military capabilities.

During this period, Russia's military will pose a regional challenge to the United States. The United States will become a close ally to some Central and Eastern European countries, all of whom will be dedicated to resisting Russian geopolitical threats during this period. Friedman speculates in the book that the United States will probably become a close ally of some Eastern European countries: Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, and Romania.

Around 2015, a Polish-led military alliance of countries in Eastern Europe will begin to form, which is referred to in the book as the "Polish Bloc."' 
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Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: cmp on September 21, 2014, 12:44:17 pm
I am now dumber for having read that.
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Sparvico on September 21, 2014, 12:53:29 pm
Well that about sums it up folks, nothing to see here. Move along, move along.
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: pepejul on September 21, 2014, 01:13:11 pm
Best prediction : There will be always stupid pple to buy this book.... ever !
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Leshma on September 21, 2014, 01:35:09 pm
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However, Israel will be forced to come to an accommodation with Turkey due to Turkey's military and political power.

lol
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Post by: Teeth on September 21, 2014, 01:44:00 pm
The geopolitical consequences of his World War 3 are the geopolitical consequences of World War 2 only having replaced a few countries with others.
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Post by: Angantyr on September 21, 2014, 01:48:59 pm
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November 24, 2050, at 5:00 p.m, during Thanksgiving Day

Priceless.
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Butan on September 21, 2014, 01:59:00 pm
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World War III

In the mid-21st century, around the year 2050, a Third World War will take place


Fuck... I'll be 60 years old already  :?  better shape up so I can chime in!

See you in the trenches boys!
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Latrinenkobold on September 21, 2014, 02:16:36 pm
No virtual reality software or aliens visiting?

My next 100 years suck  :cry:
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Post by: Osiris on September 21, 2014, 02:20:02 pm
In the mid-21st century, around the year 2050, a Third World War will take place, between the United States, the "Polish Bloc," Britain, India, and China on one side, and Turkey and Japan on the other. Germany and France will enter the war in its late stages on the side of Turkey and Japan.


heh made me laugh :D
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Post by: Butan on September 21, 2014, 02:22:57 pm
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In the early 2020s, the new Cold War will end when the economic strain and political pressure on Russia, coupled with Russia's declining population, and poor infrastructure, cause the Federal government of Russia to completely collapse, much like the Dissolution of the Soviet Union. Other former Soviet Union countries will fragment as well.


RIP Putin

Best leader 2000's
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Christo on September 21, 2014, 02:37:06 pm
There is a market for books like this?

It blows my mind away, really
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Angantyr on September 21, 2014, 02:49:07 pm
Then imagine the author being chairman of a global intelligence company whose customers 'includes Fortune 500 companies and international government agencies'.

http://www.stratfor.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratfor
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Christo on September 21, 2014, 03:13:19 pm
What the actual..
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Torben on September 21, 2014, 03:23:30 pm
"a coordinated Turkish-Japanese sneak attack" hehe
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Leshma on September 21, 2014, 03:24:25 pm
It's hilarious. If I had to choose two nations that literally have nothing in common, those would be Japs and Turks.
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: NejStark on September 21, 2014, 03:40:06 pm
Also WWIII only 50,000 casualties. We'd all take that, I think.
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Torben on September 21, 2014, 03:48:35 pm
Also WWIII only 50,000 casualties. We'd all take that, I think.

thats because itll be robowars :D
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Post by: Oberyn on September 21, 2014, 03:56:27 pm
A generation or two and every national airforce that isn't completely retarded will consist of mostly or entirely drones. Just need to wait for all the Top Gun generals obsessed with their "knight of the sky" narcissism to die out.
Personally I find the public perception of drones as a particularly "cowardly" or "unfair" weapon to be fucking stupid. Might as well be pre WW1 whining about evil machine guns, eliminating the "honor" and "glory" of warfare.
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: NejStark on September 21, 2014, 04:00:43 pm
Then imagine the author being chairman of a global intelligence company whose customers 'includes Fortune 500 companies and international government agencies'.

http://www.stratfor.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratfor

Wow, what could possibly go wrong.
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Post by: Christo on September 21, 2014, 04:09:14 pm
.."honor" and "glory" of warfare.

haha
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: pepejul on September 21, 2014, 04:30:13 pm
Arbalest was so honorfull weapon !
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Oberyn on September 21, 2014, 04:36:52 pm
haha

Haha yeah, it's why I put them in quotes. As if drones are any more "dishonorable" than a cruise missile with a range of a couple hundred klicks, or any of the other "dishonorable" modern weapons in any nation's assernal. It's only more effective and pragmatic in almost every way to a manned flight. Granted, I have no idea if it's possible to "hijack" a drone or will be in the future, in that case manned flight does have one important advantage.
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Harpag on September 21, 2014, 06:38:33 pm
what a bullshit... and this November 24, 2050, at 5:00 p.m just killed me lol, but in the Polish press I found information saying about 2.5 billion spent each year in Poland for development of indigenous technology to produce drones. They talked about flying, floating, submerged, and also which stepping and rolling robots, reconnaissance drones and combat drones like from SF movies ... this world is mad, all this money should be spent for environmental protection and poor kids in Africa,
but of course the "national security" is the most important - as in all other countries
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Butan on September 21, 2014, 07:24:04 pm
this world is mad, all this money should be spent for environmental protection and poor kids in Africa,
but of course the "national security" is the most important - as in all other countries

Harpag has a heart ?  :shock:   :P



Survival comes before comfort and other luxuries, and sending aid/helping mother nature is not "necessary".
If you let nations get too far in the arms race you will lose your sovereignty and all chance of defending yourself.
If ISIS (just an example) had somehow gotten a 10 year advance in drone technologies and had the funds to build a bunch of them, they would wreck our shit whether we are the good guys or not.

The very few nations who invest very little in their armies or not at all have 0 weight in world diplomacy and have to seek military alliances for their own safety...
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: DaveUKR on September 21, 2014, 11:11:11 pm

RIP Putin

Best leader 2000's

Tovi's gonna buy this book, you need to place spoilers for him. Also his reaction when reading about Russia collapsing in 2020's
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Post by: Voncrow on September 22, 2014, 01:42:47 am
"The primary weapons of the war will be long-range hypersonic aircraft and infantrymen with highly sophisticated, powered body-armor."
Yes, I am ready for Power Armour! Send in the Space Marines.
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Post by: chadz on September 22, 2014, 02:07:38 am
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Post by: Sparvico on September 22, 2014, 02:10:10 am
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Gib for armor in crpg meow plox.
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: chadz on September 22, 2014, 03:19:51 am
If I remember correctly, Hari Seldon is a fictional character in Isaac Asimov's Foundation series. In his capacity as mathematics professor at Streeling University on Trantor, Seldon develops psychohistory, allowing him to predict the future in probabilistic terms. His prediction of the eventual fall of the Galactic Empire is the reason behind his nickname "Raven" Seldon.
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Leshma on September 22, 2014, 03:36:16 am
Lasses and lads, it's chadz's memory otherwise known as wikipedia.

After watching two episodes of True Detective in a row, somehow I feel that I'm turnin' into Rustin Cohle, just not as skinny.
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: [ptx] on September 22, 2014, 05:54:17 am
If I remember correctly, Hari Seldon is a fictional character in Isaac Asimov's Foundation series. In his capacity as mathematics professor at Streeling University on Trantor, Seldon develops psychohistory, allowing him to predict the future in probabilistic terms. His prediction of the eventual fall of the Galactic Empire is the reason behind his nickname "Raven" Seldon.
Reading Foundation series right now :)
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Vibe on September 22, 2014, 09:21:59 am
A generation or two and every national airforce that isn't completely retarded will consist of mostly or entirely drones. Just need to wait for all the Top Gun generals obsessed with their "knight of the sky" narcissism to die out.
Personally I find the public perception of drones as a particularly "cowardly" or "unfair" weapon to be fucking stupid. Might as well be pre WW1 whining about evil machine guns, eliminating the "honor" and "glory" of warfare.

in two generations my country's army will have bicycles
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Christo on September 22, 2014, 09:23:16 am
 :lol:
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Oberyn on September 22, 2014, 09:48:51 am
Harpag has a heart ?  :shock:   :P



Survival comes before comfort and other luxuries, and sending aid/helping mother nature is not "necessary".
If you let nations get too far in the arms race you will lose your sovereignty and all chance of defending yourself.
If ISIS (just an example) had somehow gotten a 10 year advance in drone technologies and had the funds to build a bunch of them, they would wreck our shit whether we are the good guys or not.

The very few nations who invest very little in their armies or not at all have 0 weight in world diplomacy and have to seek military alliances for their own safety...

Agreed, not sure why you put national security in quotes Harpag. Obviously this is way more profitable and has guaranteed returns when compared to investing into poor kids in Africa or environmental protection, but it doesn't mean it's entirely an excuse for various country's MIC to make billions. And you're ignoring the way many technologies developped originally for military reasons eventually make their way into civilian applications and industries. Like what we're using right now for example, the internet.

If it was up to me I'd put all of it towards space exploration/technologies. But it is obvious the only way it would ever happen is for military reasons, as during the Cold War. I'm hoping the chinese, indian, etc.. forays into space will spark up another space race, if only for reasons of "national security".
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Harpag on September 22, 2014, 01:52:55 pm
It is known that investment in poor kids in Africa is no investment, but it's about human instincts and solidarity. I personally give the money to build wells of drinking water in semidesert regions of Africa. It is known that every war is the rapid development of technology - the need is the mother of invention, and the development of the defense industry creates jobs and basis for civilian technologies, but they anger me that so many resources are consumed to a mutual bullying.

Here's in my opinion sensible way to use the achievements of technology (only one million Polish zloty is ONLY about 250 000 euro and the potential benefit is priceless):

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Two independent teams working to develop the device, whose task will mainly pollinate flowers, when bees cease to accompany us. It is a sad perspective that hopefully it will not be necessary to implement after all ...

Work on artificial bee runs in Poland (Faculty of Power and Aeronautical Engineering). Working on it ongoing longer than a year and are scheduled to run for another 2 years. As explained by Dr. RafaƂ Dalewski of this university, artificial bee going to collect pollen using a feather duster, also has to distinguish between flowers and avoid the obstacles. Next  tests have to be carried out in greenhouses, since in open space can be a problem of the wind. Maybe he does not allow artificial insects to fly freely during testing.

The second team took on the challenge to construct an artificial bee (Robobea) at Harvard University. Rob Wood, Gu-Yeon Wei and Radzik Nagpal started constructing miniature flying robot a few years ago. The inspiration to create Robobea was TV program "Silence of the Bees", which concerned falls colonies. Mechanical bee is inspired by the biology of bees and their way of behavior in the hive. Bee is constructed with wings, engine, "brain", and electronics.

In recent years much has been said about the extinction of bees, and no wonder that scientists are beginning to create alternative, but keep in mind that nothing is able to replace in 100% real insect, real bees. It mainly take actions related to the protection and caring for the survival of the honey bee in the environment, because the fate of humans and bees, is one fate ... that's why environment is the most important!


btw
@ chadz - very nice helmet -  remember -  you promised new items lol

Harpag has a heart ?  :shock:   :P

not for you  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: Butan on September 22, 2014, 02:35:17 pm
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As soon as such project become a necessity (bees=dead) it will happen 100% chance.

But as long as its only a prediction of a threat with no clear today consequences, human nature will not be vastly interested. This can be extended to all kind of things we human do or are ready to do.
It takes a lot of time and energy to maintain a state of alert about things which did not happen, see most ecological problems...


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Agreed, not sure why you put national security in quotes Harpag. Obviously this is way more profitable and has guaranteed returns when compared to investing into poor kids in Africa or environmental protection, but it doesn't mean it's entirely an excuse for various country's MIC to make billions. And you're ignoring the way many technologies developped originally for military reasons eventually make their way into civilian applications and industries. Like what we're using right now for example, the internet.

If it was up to me I'd put all of it towards space exploration/technologies. But it is obvious the only way it would ever happen is for military reasons, as during the Cold War. I'm hoping the chinese, indian, etc.. forays into space will spark up another space race, if only for reasons of "national security".


This we agree on, I am very interested in space for the sake of space, but I know that there will be no major investment as long as there is no survival instinct trigger. Potential space militarization and reliable space colonisation for economical reasons is the only reason it will move forward (and also if we detect alien civilization that might be warlike  :mrgreen: or just to steal their shit).
Title: Re: A 2009 book predicted the next 100 years. So far so good.
Post by: NejStark on September 22, 2014, 02:58:33 pm
Harpag for president. I had expected him to be a heartless automaton.
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Post by: Harpag on September 22, 2014, 03:56:44 pm
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I though we were friends!

haha of course we are, but I have to take care about my reputation, so fu  :)

Harpag for president. I had expected him to be a heartless automaton.


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lel

edit:

http://coub.com/view/37tfs

haha

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Post by: Butan on September 24, 2014, 03:59:24 pm
haha of course we are, but I have to take care about my reputation, so fu  :)

Too late, since this thread you are officially declared a part of the human race.
Congratulations.
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Post by: Harpag on September 24, 2014, 04:42:24 pm
Too late, since this thread you are officially declared a part of the human race.
Congratulations.

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lel