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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: rufio on September 01, 2014, 02:46:54 pm

Title: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: rufio on September 01, 2014, 02:46:54 pm
its incredibly broken on siege and any battlemap with hights, nudges are to eazy to hit and the knockback is incredible, a peasant with a 1 hander or pole arm can just nudge people off walls all the time its silly as fuck.
Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: Molly on September 01, 2014, 03:44:02 pm
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Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: Huscarlton_Banks on September 01, 2014, 08:01:56 pm
Bring back old nudge knockback launching for HESKEY!

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Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: Death_Dealer on September 01, 2014, 09:49:32 pm
when i nudge someone on the ladder with unarmed block i can make them climb half the way up its funny
Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: rufio on September 04, 2014, 09:51:28 pm
i see the forums are dead, and only the horrible no care trollplayers downvote army is allive and kicking.
Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: San on September 04, 2014, 09:53:52 pm
Even if it's reduced, people will still get nudged off if they're not careful. Staying close to a wall ensures that you don't have to worry about it.
Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: rufio on September 05, 2014, 12:24:10 am
super weird argument, so dont reduce it because u know u still have to be carefull, just keep it like it is now where if youre hit by a nudge on a wall u will fall off 90% of the time, gj dude
Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: San on September 05, 2014, 12:32:52 am
No, the argument is that the only people who have such a problem with it consistently will still have a problem with it after it's reduced. Nudge knockback scales with strength, shield skill, and whether you're attacking/blocking/neutral and you can already reduce knockback with those methods and being knowledgeable of your surroundings. It'll still happen to everyone every once in a while but most will adapt according to the situation.
Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: rufio on September 05, 2014, 12:42:59 am
shield nudge spam every 3 seconds on walls, alot of walls/ high paths are narrow, the chance of getting nudged of is to great, how skilled or knowlegable you are, but i bet you just avoid being put in a situation where u can be nudged of witch isnt really a good awnser. and dont get me starting how eazy it is to defend some ladders with this nudge bullshit. im not here saying nudge should be removed, but hte knockback is  a fuckin joke thats all.
Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: San on September 05, 2014, 02:29:26 am
I think a nice first step is to tell us how far in meters your average shielder can push someone using nudge. I would like to separate truth from hyperbole if you're really that concerned.
Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: Artyem on September 05, 2014, 02:49:21 am
I don't think that shield bashing is really a problem, the only nudge that seems off to me is the one-handed blocking nudge.
Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: Admerius on September 05, 2014, 02:59:09 pm
I find high strength nudges immersion breaking, not that immersion is the main reason I play crpg, but it still breaks the immersion adding to the desire to log on to one of my troll-build alts.

So... I got an idea that I haven't thought more than a few minutes on:

Nudge=interrupts as usual.

Nudge distance is not "countered" by the victims strength.

For example:
21 str nudge vs 3 str peasat/agi-troll = 21-3 effective nudge strength making the nudge equal to what 18 str is now.

21 str nudge vs 18 str = 3 effective nudge strength

21 str nudge vs 30 str = -12 effective nudge strength = interrupt, no knockback at all.

I dunno the shield bash mechanics so those might actually be less penalized and be able to nudeg better(each shield skill counting as 5 str for the purpose of knockback or something like that)
Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: pepejul on September 05, 2014, 03:38:11 pm
great idea... if negative ratio, when nudging a str beast, it should be funny to be knocked-down or bashed back yourself ! Just like to bash in a wall !
Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: MURDERTRON on September 05, 2014, 07:22:38 pm
Stop face hugging you shit player.
Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: rufio on September 05, 2014, 07:57:38 pm
stfu fairyboy
Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: Kafein on September 05, 2014, 08:10:37 pm
In my opinion the shoving is too strong because it gives a huge and unnecessary advantage to long weapon users. Forcing the other party to go through your alpha strike after every exchange of swings is very much unbalanced.
Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: Combaticus on September 05, 2014, 08:16:30 pm
It's perfectly fine and actually beneficial for STR build chars that actually need the nudge to prevent face huggers like you being up all in my grill. We are too slow already so this creates the space to whoop ass.

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Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: Kafein on September 05, 2014, 09:08:21 pm
It's perfectly fine and actually beneficial for STR build chars that actually need the nudge to prevent face huggers like you being up all in my grill. We are too slow already so this creates the space to whoop ass.

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That's only true if you use a STR build and also use a weapon that gives you an alpha strike advantage. It's true that STR synergises better with longer weapons in general. But that doesn't prevent an STR build to use a short weapon with which it is detrimental to shove your enemies around. Actually in many cases I would like my block nudge to stun without shoving because the shove moves the target outside of my reach.

Besides, face huggers are the easiest to hiltslash.
Title: Re: TWEAK NUDGE KNOCKBACK DISTANCE!!!!!
Post by: Combaticus on September 05, 2014, 09:19:11 pm
Not when you are as slow as me  :cry: