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Title: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: HentziTheHun on May 20, 2011, 01:26:11 am
I suggest to create two types of pure horse archer/ archer gears to Mount and Blade: Warband cRPG mod. The mentioned clothes are shown in every perspective.
- Frell has taken up the task of creating the Kazakh clothes. /Completed/
- Merc_Noctivagant has taken up the task of creating the Magyar vért ( Hungarian armor ).

I. Kazakh clothes
/ The armor will officially be added to CRPG next patch, noting that a requirement of 2 riding will be needed. /
http://uppit.com/suakkm0yf4h1/kazakh.rar (http://uppit.com/suakkm0yf4h1/kazakh.rar)
The original clothing style of eastern horse archer folks ( magyars, mongols, turk - török- folks ) were designed like this Kazakh cloth, which is used nowadays as the national wear or Kazakh people.
The looks of the gear can be seen here:
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* The boots are under repair right now.
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II. Magyar vért ( Hungarian armor )
The other suggestion of mine is the creating of a full set of Hungarian armor. This kind of armor was used in the 9-11th century among the Hungarian horse archers.
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- Videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v259QuZFXw0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaNKCM0crkc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v259QuZFXw0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaNKCM0crkc)
http://sarkanykronika.atw.hu/kelemen.htm (http://sarkanykronika.atw.hu/kelemen.htm)
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Thank you for reading my suggestions and if you are a dedicated archer or horse archer please support my proposal.
GK_HentziTheHun

*If you have other suggestions please send it in comments.
Title: Re: Horse Archer cloths
Post by: Reyiz on May 20, 2011, 01:30:41 am
More items, more fun :D
Title: Re: Horse Archer cloths
Post by: Astinus on May 20, 2011, 01:37:21 am
make models, textures and lods
Title: Re: Horse Archer cloths
Post by: MountedRhader on May 20, 2011, 01:42:46 am
I'd make these if I could model :cry:
I learned :D :D :D
Title: Re: Horse Archer cloths
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on May 20, 2011, 02:06:39 am
something good
Title: Re: Horse Archer cloths
Post by: Digglez on May 20, 2011, 02:09:57 am
besides the silly robes, the other armors already exist in game.  Lamellar & light leather.
Title: Re: Horse Archer cloths
Post by: Death_Dealer on May 20, 2011, 02:11:15 am
i want a golden eagle :D

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cool creature :)

here is a vid mongolians hunting wolves with golden eagle and I like the music very much:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re644qgnCtw

an informative one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTPWr7gc2gM&feature=related
Title: Re: Horse Archer cloths
Post by: Frell on May 20, 2011, 02:41:16 am
Im a 3d artist (http://frell262.deviantart.com/gallery/)

I plan on getting more in depth into warband mods, perhaps ill work on this for crpg when I figure out all the specs etc.
Title: Re: Horse Archer cloths
Post by: Overdriven on May 20, 2011, 02:49:43 am
Quote from: Digglez on May 20, 2011, 02:09:57 am
besides the silly robes, the other armors already exist in game.  Lamellar & light leather.

Pfft Lamellar is hardly the same and is quite boring tbh.
Title: Re: Horse Archer (- HA -) cloths
Post by: Kataphraktos on May 20, 2011, 11:47:56 am
wow great idea. I hope some modellers can make them for c-rpg  :)
Title: Re: Horse Archer (- HA -) clothes
Post by: Belatu on May 20, 2011, 03:52:31 pm
Those mongols really surf on the horses huehuehueu herp
Title: Re: Horse Archer (- HA -) clothes
Post by: Akincibegi on May 20, 2011, 04:27:12 pm
Quote from: Belatu on May 20, 2011, 03:52:31 pm
Those mongols really surf on the horses huehuehueu herp
u idiot they rnt mongol learn it first. :evil:
and i m supportin this but need much more different armour types too u must find them
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 20, 2011, 06:30:09 pm
Before I create this, I'd like to be assured it will be added into crpg so my time isn't wasted.
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: JackieChan on May 20, 2011, 06:30:38 pm
I'd love to see those type of armors in crpg! Brilliant idea! :D
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Glyph on May 20, 2011, 06:39:42 pm
Quote from: JackieChan on May 20, 2011, 06:30:38 pm
I'd love to see those type of armors in crpg! Brilliant idea! :D
ye chan some more items for you :D
great idea, and for the record guys, the hungarians were master in this kind of fighting and not the mongols, they addapted this fighting form later on :wink:
also the plated armors are also fgood to put in! +a lot
Title: Re: Horse Archer cloths
Post by: Digglez on May 20, 2011, 08:17:10 pm
Quote from: Overdriven on May 20, 2011, 02:49:43 am
Pfft Lamellar is hardly the same and is quite boring tbh.

Uh ya, the majority of your pictures there the guys in 'heavy' looking armor, its lamellar.  Educate yourself nub.  The devs have already said the game suffers from too many textures, so duplicating existing armor idea doesnt work too well.

Functionality > eye candy
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Death_Dealer on May 20, 2011, 08:31:31 pm
Quote from: frell on May 20, 2011, 06:30:09 pm
Before I create this, I'd like to be assured it will be added into crpg so my time isn't wasted.

even if they dont add, u may add them to ur portfolio i think
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Korgoth on May 20, 2011, 09:48:40 pm
Yes I want some more armours like these but why call them Horse Archer cloths? Were they only for Horse Archers or something?
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 20, 2011, 10:24:45 pm
ill be creating these clothes within this week, stay tuned.
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Adamar on May 20, 2011, 10:34:57 pm
That composite bow,... That's what the Khergit bow should look like. And name it hornbow, it's more authentic.

edit: at least one of the composite bows should look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOpOqgotJZc&feature=feedrec_grec_index
Title: Re: Horse Archer (- HA -) clothes
Post by: Belatu on May 21, 2011, 12:26:09 am
Quote from: Akincibegi on May 20, 2011, 04:27:12 pm
u idiot they rnt mongol learn it first. :evil:
and i m supportin this but need much more different armour types too u must find them

read the first post again,

Quote from: HentziTheHun on May 20, 2011, 01:26:11 am

The original clothing style of eastern horse archer folks ( magyars, mongols, turk - török- folks ) were designed like this Kazakh cloth

 you underaged bag of shit, and think first before separate your filthy mouth from the cock you are sucking
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 21, 2011, 12:27:24 am
Hat modeling done, onto the torso.
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Noctivagant on May 21, 2011, 01:18:00 am
I'll be working on "magyar vért" (hungarian armors) There are some sipahi and hungarian (magyar) helmets in the equipment list but they are incorrect, armors are mostly texture work and I got these dog size horses in some dark corner of my harddisk I should texture it. I'm a bit busy but I'll do the best I can
Title: Re: Horse Archer (- HA -) clothes
Post by: Akincibegi on May 21, 2011, 01:28:58 am
1 word BLAHHH
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 21, 2011, 01:36:32 am
Torso modeling finished.
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 21, 2011, 03:00:04 am
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Soiherd u wann wear it
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 21, 2011, 06:24:34 am
Doing good, hats pretty much done.

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Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 21, 2011, 07:38:02 am
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Im really just winging these designs, I've googled everywhere for something traceable.



Oop nevermind! Just saw that second picture, perfect.
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 21, 2011, 07:53:51 am
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There we go, much better.
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: SepChu on May 21, 2011, 08:38:29 am
+1 For nice work~  :D
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Glyph on May 21, 2011, 08:48:50 am
Quote from: Ninja_Korgoth on May 20, 2011, 09:48:40 pm
Yes I want some more armours like these but why call them Horse Archer cloths? Were they only for Horse Archers or something?
well they were used by the hungarian people and their army pretty much existed out of HA's so... but we also have a magyar hat i believe so we can call it magyar armor.

and also i saw some gloves that look really cool in a pic(12th of the magyar) check it out. it's not really a high tier glove but it could be decent(6 armor)
Title: Re: Horse Archer (- HA -) clothes
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on May 21, 2011, 09:19:48 am
Quote from: Belatu on May 20, 2011, 03:52:31 pm
Those mongols really surf on the horses huehuehueu herp

mongol pride worldwide!
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Glyph on May 21, 2011, 09:44:36 am
really small horses and they aren't mongols!!!!!!!!! :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Belatu on May 21, 2011, 10:09:49 am
nice work!! I love the hat!!
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Akincibegi on May 21, 2011, 11:19:09 am
most of horses in asia smaller then euorepean horses.european horses just like son of rhino :lol:
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Glyph on May 21, 2011, 11:57:53 am
Quote from: Akincibegi on May 21, 2011, 11:19:09 am
most of horses in asia smaller then euorepean horses.european horses just like son of rhino :lol:
atleast the warhorses of knights were
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Overdriven on May 21, 2011, 01:21:47 pm
Quote from: Akincibegi on May 21, 2011, 11:19:09 am
most of horses in asia smaller then euorepean horses.european horses just like son of rhino :lol:

Tell that to a Shetland Pony.

Loving the new armour so far  :D
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 21, 2011, 06:39:30 pm
This torso is alot of hard work, most of it is coming off as sloppy for me though, please give me your thoughts

Most of it will be revised, the vest is probably the only thing done. Ive moved the eagle to avoid the problem with the seam.
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Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Death_Dealer on May 21, 2011, 06:48:32 pm
i think it can be a little darker(but maybe will look fine with the shadows in game), btw u r fast lol
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 21, 2011, 06:51:52 pm
Once the texture is done I play with the brightness and contrast :P
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: jspook on May 21, 2011, 08:15:48 pm
Those models look really good.

on a totally different note, those Golden Eagles are awesome.  those are some beautiful pictures
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 21, 2011, 08:20:51 pm
Alright torso is pretty much complete

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Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 21, 2011, 09:16:44 pm
Heres the pretty much completed armor:
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Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 21, 2011, 10:50:21 pm
More fixed

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Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 21, 2011, 11:29:46 pm
YOU ALL SHOULD BE EXCITED DAMMIT POST

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Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 22, 2011, 02:12:33 am
The armor will officially be added to CRPG next patch, noting that a requirement of 2 riding will be needed. Its is horse archer armor after all ;)
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: ShinySpoons on May 22, 2011, 03:07:48 am
I AM EXCITED AND SHALL POST GOOD WORK
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: MountedRhader on May 22, 2011, 03:23:34 am
Frell you should do some better plate armor for cRPG.. To me it is sort of limited :|
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 22, 2011, 03:26:42 am
I was thinking of doing a very simple metal vest curiass
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: ArchonAlarion on May 22, 2011, 03:28:18 am
Moar plate
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Frell on May 22, 2011, 03:39:42 am
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Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: MountedRhader on May 22, 2011, 03:59:29 am
They look great :D .. +1
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Death_Dealer on May 22, 2011, 05:54:33 am
gratz man and thx for uploading the proccess time to time ;)
im gonna wear it on desert horse :) we gonna look a little fat :D
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Chris_P_Bacon on May 22, 2011, 09:15:41 am
(click to show/hide)
I didn't know they had cameras back then!
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Overdriven on May 22, 2011, 11:06:56 am
Very nice! I'm buying this as soon as it's in game  :D
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / refreshed
Post by: Akincibegi on May 22, 2011, 12:46:46 pm
gj shik.but to be honest i ll never buy this shit :evil:
cus of armour'S arms lookin horrible.like sarrand padded vest its horrible too.why u dont try to retexture it on nomad vest or nomad robe?
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / refreshed
Post by: Frell on May 22, 2011, 05:51:31 pm
shik didnt make it lol
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / refreshed
Post by: Akincibegi on May 22, 2011, 06:21:30 pm
Quote from: frell on May 22, 2011, 05:51:31 pm
shik didnt make it lol
soo sorry for that r u happy :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes
Post by: Glyph on May 22, 2011, 06:59:38 pm
Quote from: frell on May 22, 2011, 03:39:42 am
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is it me or does it make this woman a bit fat? please don't tell her!
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / refreshed
Post by: Frell on May 22, 2011, 07:03:56 pm
The people who actually wear the uniform wear the belt on their stomachs

Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / refreshed
Post by: Frell on May 22, 2011, 07:06:59 pm
if any of you want to try out the armor here it is:

http://uppit.com/suakkm0yf4h1/kazakh.rar


There are a few problems, i've notified shik to look into it
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / refreshed
Post by: Glyph on May 22, 2011, 07:56:56 pm
can you also make the gauntlets( see pic 12 of the magyar warriors) they are really cool, not to higfh tier jus nice with the outfit

thx
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: HentziTheHun on May 22, 2011, 11:08:18 pm
I have tried the Kazakh clothes and it looks fantastic in-game.
Nice work Frell.
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: Frell on May 22, 2011, 11:14:30 pm
awesome new pictures
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: Death_Dealer on May 23, 2011, 04:41:28 am
thx again frell, here some screenshots i took on duel server:

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this one is with dx7

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Quote from: Adamar on May 20, 2011, 10:34:57 pm
That composite bow,... That's what the Khergit bow should look like. And name it hornbow, it's more authentic.

edit: at least one of the composite bows should look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOpOqgotJZc&feature=feedrec_grec_index

i found another vid of that man very impressive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RLAAfl3gdY&feature=related
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: Glyph on May 23, 2011, 08:45:21 am
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thx again frell, here some screenshots i took on duel server:

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this one is with dx7

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i found another vid of that man very impressive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RLAAfl3gdY&feature=related
i have a bow like that(but 150cm when strung) and that's how all HA bows should look like
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: HentziTheHun on May 24, 2011, 01:04:16 pm
The Magyar Vért will be ready in 3-4 weeks.
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: OldKnight on May 24, 2011, 01:21:30 pm
Hey!

Wery nice the idea! Congratulations!


 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on June 13, 2011, 10:56:32 am
well im not very interested in HA armor but it doesnt look crappy, see no reason why not adding it (:
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on June 13, 2011, 11:14:38 am
why there is a borat coat of arms on the vest?
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on June 13, 2011, 11:43:23 am
very nice armor, but i have to agree on pictures there wasnt the Kazakh symbol on it ;]
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: ifreaky on June 13, 2011, 01:29:40 pm
 :shock: Yes add this to CRPG!
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: Belatu on June 13, 2011, 01:57:59 pm
I like a lot this stuff... good work
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: zagibu on June 13, 2011, 04:21:13 pm
Amazing modeling and texture skills, frell. You should do some screen casts while you model + texture, I'm sure many ppl could learn a lot.

Also, I support the request for simple breastplates. We currently only have full plate or no plate, but simple breastplates with mail or leather were actually quite common. Maybe make a breastplate with leather and a breastplate with mail, stats could be something like this:

Breastplate with leather

Weight: 12
Body armor: 38 - 42
Leg armor: 6 - 8
Difficulty: 9


Breastplate with mail

Weight: 18
Body armor: 48 - 50
Leg armor: 8 - 10
Difficulty: 12


Also, some western european simple metal helmets would be nice. Those currently in cRPG are from native and don't look so good. Also, most of them have padding and neckguards that look stupid on most armours.
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: Glyph on June 13, 2011, 05:30:54 pm
Quote from: zagibu on June 13, 2011, 04:21:13 pm
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Also, some western european simple metal helmets would be nice. Those currently in cRPG are from native and don't look so good. Also, most of them have padding and neckguards that look stupid on most armours.
we need helmets like in my pic(something like a nordic pot helmet but with simple mail coif underneath it). because the nordic pot helmet looks really gay due to the hair dissapearence
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: John on June 15, 2011, 02:35:23 am
If the mod gets too big for me to keep "Load Textures on Demand" off because of special horse archer armor, I'm going to flip out!
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: Glyph on June 15, 2011, 11:47:49 am
can we see some pics of the armor that is in progress?
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: Frell on October 18, 2011, 01:07:15 am
The kazakh armor was recently added and a few questions have popped up about the design etc.

I have bumped this thread just for notice, and to report any errors.

If an admin is reading this and still has the files id greatly appreciate the texture sheets and Ill darken some stuff up.

Turns out the armor.rar was uploaded in the original thread at the top, so I can fix up the textures but I need to know if this is the version being used in crpg
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: Christo on March 03, 2012, 03:07:58 pm
What happened to the "Magyar Vért"?

Was it discontinued?

It would be great to have that and the heavy lamellar thing in the pictures.
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on March 03, 2012, 05:39:36 pm
Quote from: Christo on March 03, 2012, 03:07:58 pm
What happened to the "Magyar Vért"?

Was it discontinued?

It would be great to have that and the heavy lamellar thing in the pictures.

but christo, you'll never wear those new items anyway..
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: Overdriven on March 03, 2012, 06:20:58 pm
I think people complained that there was no point adding it as you may as well use normal lamellar.

However, I would love to see it made  :)
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: Christo on March 04, 2012, 12:10:37 pm
Quote from: Tavuk_Bey on March 03, 2012, 05:39:36 pm
but christo, you'll never wear those new items anyway..

What do you know..  :)
Title: Re: New horse archer (- HA -) and archer clothes / New in-game pictures
Post by: tkn123 on April 05, 2012, 05:37:48 pm
Bumping this thread because it is epic from Hentzi! Great job Frell, and if you were still interested In making some more Magyar armour, please contact me via pm.

Thanks