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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on June 26, 2014, 12:14:03 am
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no seriously
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ok
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Why don't you just post the truth; "I didn't play the first four months of strat right and now I need a restart so I don't look like a big stupid idiot."
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but i did play the first four months of strat
just watch that video of giuseppe making hospitaller mad, they mention me in it because i was playing then
i just havent done anything else after like a few weeks in because i realized "wait this is not worth the effort, i quit"
i mean i dont give a fuck if i personally cant do much on strat, but i think that strat for most people has been more boring this strat than last strat, because things got harder
if strat were like it was in strat 4, i would be playing right now for sure
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If there were say 100 more people that play strat on each side then this new thing they did would be fine. But the lack of players really makes this strat harder.
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The only factions really affected in a negative way by these changes are the small factions. Big factions take a bit longer to be able to afford plate, but it is just a matter of time. Not a lot of time to be precise.
Small factions however will never be able to afford plates. Neither will they be able to afford proper cav (5 War horses maybe, but they have to last for ages)
Crime is more of a hassle for small factions. If a huge faction loses 100 troops to crime, fuck it, who cares? If a small faction loses 50 troops to crime it is half their army gone pretty much.
But I think a restart would drive even more people away now. Nearly no proper battles have happened yet, and start from scratch again? Would certainly put many people off.
The best thing for strat would be increasing the exp even further.
Because even after the recent increase of like 100% of the base exp etc you still get jack shit.
Make it so current battles give at least 1 mil exp, and proper battles give even more. 250k exp does not attract anybody anymore.
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That might make more people merc, but wouldnt make people create more battles and get involved again.
Whatever you do to Exp, Strat has always been a huge investment for small reward - but there was a decent balance in Strat 4 and most were happy to put the time in needed to get the full awesome battles we got. If a medium faction got flag capped on a full 1800 shiny army, they have more armies. In strat 5 if that happens then it's GG, cos that was your one 1800 shiny army. No room for trial-and-error, if you get fucked this strat you're out, cos it takes so fricking long to rebuild - and because we know there's a clear cut-off date for the strat to end.
Yeah, true that actually.
I guess we just have to accept that proper Strat is never going to happen this round. :|
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i have 0 expectation that it would actually happen but i was curious about sperg public opinion
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Why don't you just post the truth; "I didn't play the first four months of strat right and now I need a restart so I don't look like a big stupid idiot."
You talking about posting the truth? Ironic.
I agree with Daruvian on this one, reset this round as I'd rather have everyone in plate than only a few in plate vs mail.
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Start every real faction with a million gold.
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Keep crime, but get rid of everything else. And make army cap dependent on renown. That would increase battles fer sher.
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Revert to strat 1 or 2 mechanics. Also, while you are at it, remove all Tydeus related changes in crpg. And give eastern europe its own map so they can all be butt buddies together and alone.
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Revert to strat 1 or 2 mechanics. Also, while you are at it, remove all Tydeus related changes in crpg.
Now I see how Kesh and Dutchy fell for each other :mrgreen:
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I might have started very late, but oh my is this massive alliance fucking boring. The only reason they play is to farm XP. Give them their own map where they can abuse strategus, and earn as mich experience they want. No wonder the amount of people playing cRPG is thining out with this massive buttbuddy alliance, running about in their shiny armour attacking new people. I literally cannot point out any reason why the current strategus on EU at least, should continue. It'll eventually end up with the alliance getting the entire map and XP farming all day.
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They could take the entire map in a matter of days now if they wanted, without anyone being able to do anything against it. It'll end up boring for them and already is boring for new players, that they can't get started without getting attacked by some dude for 800 crates.
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I might have started very late, but oh my is this massive alliance fucking boring. The only reason they play is to farm XP. Give them their own map where they can abuse strategus, and earn as mich experience they want. No wonder the amount of people playing cRPG is thining out with this massive buttbuddy alliance, running about in their shiny armour attacking new people. I literally cannot point out any reason why the current strategus on EU at least, should continue. It'll eventually end up with the alliance getting the entire map and XP farming all day.
Totaly agree strat is now: how have more,, when you have already all!.
The Big alliance are not sastify to be the biggest they should do the biggest military alliance.Strat need stop be monopoly of the number.
It think it s more fun with war of small clan.
And plz explain more the rule of max of player ,need new player can play at strat.
The size of the number (menber) of a clan need be more small, like 20 guys max maybe no more.And the Biggest alliance should change diplomacy and do war against the other biggest.
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talk about this you fugging plebs
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I concur.
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Restart to strat4 rules and don't allow the people who admin it to participate is my vote.
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Who even admins it?
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Theres like one guy that admins it, and he doesn't play anyway?
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fund it
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Seriously this Strategus fucking blows, get rid of crime, give us an easier economy, fuck.
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Who even admins it?
Canary, Tydeus and one other admin who doesn't have the time.
"[19:18] <cmp> sorry, i don't deal with strategus anymore, you should talk to Tydeus or Nessaj or Canary"
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Canary, Tydeus and one other admin who doesn't have the time.
"[19:18] <cmp> sorry, i don't deal with strategus anymore, you should talk to Tydeus or Nessaj or Canary"
This is so depressing, R.I.P. strat 6 before it starts.
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Would love to play Strategus, but can't make heads or tails of anything, even after reading guides. Public servers and grinding pointless multipliers and EXP is getting frustrating/boring.
If they reset Strat and reverted some of the rules, it sounds like I would have an easier time, but I don't know.
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Would love to play Strategus, but can't make heads or tails of anything, even after reading guides. Public servers and grinding pointless multipliers and EXP is getting frustrating/boring.
If they reset Strat and reverted some of the rules, it sounds like I would have an easier time, but I don't know.
Don't start it. I honestly don't know why I log in everyday and click a map.
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Don't start it. I honestly don't know why I log in everyday and click a map.
it's a bad game
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This makes me sad. Sounds like a good idea, that was poorly executed, at least that's the feeling I get from reading into things. I wanted to do stuff other than grind a multi! Dammit, give me something to do other than NA_1, because I'm tired of it!
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NA_2?
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This makes me sad. Sounds like a good idea, that was poorly executed, at least that's the feeling I get from reading into things. I wanted to do stuff other than grind a multi! Dammit, give me something to do other than NA_1, because I'm tired of it!
Called it. Mod is at a state of no growth and only decline. There are a lot of factors, but for new NA players, they really have nowhere else to go except NA 1, and i said "no new player is gonna last long in the hell that is NA 1"
Breidr, i was lucky, i got in a lil over a year ago, back when siege was still active, but i didnt start playing siege till months after starting this mod. I stayed away from siege and battle, because they were hopeless.
I spent all my time on DTV, which back then, HAD NO INVISIBLE WALLS, IT WAS COMPLETELY FREEROAM AND IT WAS AWESOME. Met most of my good friends on DTV, had a lot of my best and most memorable times on DTV.
Now DTV is dead, the maps are bad, and NA players dont like the concept of barriers ( GIVE US FREEDOM, GIVE US FREEROAM BACK, AND ID STILL PLAY DTV DAILY )
With NA 1 being the only option...i would have quit the mod ( i actually did quit the mod multiple times, to the point Canary was asked TWICE to restore my chars...thats how frustrating this mod can be for new players...and Breidr, has it TWICE AS ROUGH )
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I have the opposite problem with Crpg, i can put up with the strat map etc, but rage that i have to deal with public servers to grind ticks etc in order to play strat.
I basically love every part of strat apart from crpg, just wish it wasnt stuck with shitty warband/crpg mechanics to fight the battles. Browsergames all the way!
Tempted to downvote this for lack of roleplay.
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Called it. Mod is at a state of no growth and only decline. There are a lot of factors, but for new NA players, they really have nowhere else to go except NA 1, and i said "no new player is gonna last long in the hell that is NA 1"
Breidr, i was lucky, i got in a lil over a year ago, back when siege was still active, but i didnt start playing siege till months after starting this mod. I stayed away from siege and battle, because they were hopeless.
I spent all my time on DTV, which back then, HAD NO INVISIBLE WALLS, IT WAS COMPLETELY FREEROAM AND IT WAS AWESOME. Met most of my good friends on DTV, had a lot of my best and most memorable times on DTV.
Now DTV is dead, the maps are bad, and NA players dont like the concept of barriers ( GIVE US FREEDOM, GIVE US FREEROAM BACK, AND ID STILL PLAY DTV DAILY )
With NA 1 being the only option...i would have quit the mod ( i actually did quit the mod multiple times, to the point Canary was asked TWICE to restore my chars...thats how frustrating this mod can be for new players...and Breidr, has it TWICE AS ROUGH )
That's pretty much it.
Persistent Online Multiplayer = little green bar you have to fill, that's it. The multi system sucks, but I'm not holding my breath on that changing. I like games like this, hell, I pre-ordered WotR and was disappointed to see it just die. In Native I can get on lopsided battle servers, or GK_siege, so It's not much better. I stayed here because the faction/gold system in Native is not to my liking.
I'm close to just scrapping the whole NA_1 thing and just using a STF whenever a strat battle comes up, those are fun. I like hanging out with Frisia and others on TS, and if it wasn't for that TS, I'd be out of here.
As for Siege and DTV, both are empty most of the time, at least in NA. EU DTV is populated in the morning, but is bloody boring and only used by me to crank out EXP at the beginning of a gen so I can wield more than a wooden sword. Siege seems to be very map dependent and needs certain amount of people, which rarely happens. The multi system means Siege isn't that rewarding either.
If I just want to fight, I go to GK_Siege if no one in Frisia is on. I can only stomach this mod with friends, it's just not worth it otherwise.
I was hoping to give strat a go and give myself something to do in the genre I like other than die and stare at x1, but I guess I'm too late to the party. :(
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A lot of people in the community are willing to help out solo folk. Ganner, for a long time, held onto a castle and a fief by himself. Desire took out a few villages and a city this round. Granted, as the round goes on, it may become harder to hold onto something solo, but I know last round several people did it. Just takes some getting used to. Or hook up with Frisia. They're active. Next round for strat will start in a few months, so it's better to get your feet wet now. Think about it... better to make the mistakes now when it's ending than next when it's...not.
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Strat is only hard if you play alone without any diplomacy or brain, with good relations and free trade you can gain few mils of Shekels in no time.
(like i did)
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You don't have to be an active strat player to be in the battles. Just go here http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming and sign up. It's pretty rare for anyone to get a full roster, and even if they do there's usually a lot of no-shows. Just make sure you have Teamspeak.
And the experience is awesome (unless its a peasant battle).
Also if you want to get into Strat, just join a faction. I hear the 13 Knights are awesome. http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=claninfodetail&id=3184 They decided to become a fearsome mercenary faction, and will be quite happy to help you get started.
I am enjoying Strat, expecially the cat and mouse game you play with enemy armies. The only crap thing is that it takes soooo long to build a decent army now (ever since the padded heraldic armour just wouldn't cut it anymore).