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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Lady_Cicilia_Rosewood on May 19, 2011, 07:06:14 pm
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With only having a bastard child of the great lance, which isn't great by any measure except for it's epic fail, why don't we have the Lance of Compensation back? Especially with the slotting system and unsheathing additions and couch only additionals. Where's the dedicated weapon for the cavalry charge?
We even have a pike with a whopping 300 length in the game.
Where is it? Tell me.
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No.
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Maybe if it was 4 slots. Or make that 5.
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No.
Yes.
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If I remember, the objection before was not having a pike long enough...but with the old pike becoming the long spear and an addition of a pike which is very long, theres no excuses left.
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Because its retarded
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If I remember, the objection before was not having a pike long enough...but with the old pike becoming the long spear and an addition of a pike which is very long, theres no excuses left.
The pike got ONLY a thrust, wich makes 2slot weapon, really... specific. At least, with the old pike you could still defeat people. And lance of compensation was just retarded anyway. Bringing it back would be a nightmare. And it's not like you don't already have nice enough couchable lance out there. If you can't kill anyone because of their "short" range, then maybe consider going 1h cav maybe.
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It was a silly weapon, and I know for sure that I don't want it back.
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I do miss my dear old friend, lance of compensation. We had such good times together, she and I.
I know that many people hate cav and would be completely against giving them another long lance, but it would be nice for cavalry to have something a little bit better than the great lance seeing as it is kind of crappy.
I wouldn't even mind if sometime down the road lance breaking would be implemented, it would give cav a reason to switch to a secondary weapon and get in close for the kill.
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Wasen't silly in the slightest, it had it's own niche. The great lance doesn't fill it. You have to remember how far a non couchable lance can be poked
The pike got ONLY a thrust, wich makes 2slot weapon, really... specific.
A real great lance even more so, and it's done for a good amount of seconds while the pike can keep poking away. You have to drop the lance if you're close in with melee or CQC with cavalry.
If you can't kill anyone because of their "short" range, then maybe consider going 1h cav maybe.
There is no reason whatsoever to chose the current great lance over any other lances. It's outranged, outfought...and leaves one completely paralysed for any action except for defensive measures(hold shieldblock) for a long period of time. It's a 1 shot impotent woody that is a waste of money and time to invest in.
Because its retarded
Impeccable argument :rolleyes:
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etime down the road lance breaking would be implemented, it would give cav a reason to switch to a secondary weapon and get in close for the kill.
I play cav and this would still be pretty cool to see. Most people hate random affects (crits in TF2 come to mind) but I think they add alot of depth to play. Expect the unexpected!
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Because its retarded
pretty much sums it up. It was a terrible idea then, and its still a terrible
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Did unsheathable or slots exist in the time that LoC was removed?
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Im pretty sure you had to drop the lance of compensation when you wanted to switch weapons back then. Im not 100% on it tho because i'm batshit crazy and cannot remember.
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Im pretty sure you had to drop the lance of compensation when you wanted to switch weapons back then. Im not 100% on it tho because i'm batshit crazy and cannot remember.
you didn't but it was still ridiculous. No reason whatsoever that cav need this weapon in the game. The only people who want it are cav-fanboys.
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Did the long pike of 300 even exist back then? It wasen't a rediculous weapon, but a proper one for it's role
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Did the long pike of 300 even exist back then? It wasen't a rediculous weapon, but a proper one for it's role
Cav is doing more than ok this patch with all cav's competition badly nerfed. We do not need the retarded LoC back in our arsenal
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I would say the LoC is a better anti cavalry weapon then infantry
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Is it possible to compare the ingame length of the heavy lance vs the great lance. I ask because ingame the great lance doesnt look like it is much larger than the heavy lance in terms of overall length.
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With only having a bastard child of the great lance, which isn't great by any measure except for it's epic fail, why don't we have the Lance of Compensation back? Especially with the slotting system and unsheathing additions and couch only additionals. Where's the dedicated weapon for the cavalry charge?
We even have a pike with a whopping 300 length in the game.
Where is it? Tell me.
No.
'The phuck are you anyway? O.o
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'The phuck are you anyway? O.o
fucking newbs show some respect.
M'lady i must say the LoC is a very silly weapon. You really are better off taking a heavy lance.
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fucking newbs show some respect.
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Who the fuck are you anyway Dezilagel? never heard of you. (FYI Rosewood created and led the first major guild in cRPG, I reckon the lady just had a break and came back. Go and be ashamed of your ignorance.)
About the lance, it was a very spesific weapon, made to enable the possibilty of having devastating cavalry charges in strategus with packed, trained and ammased cavalry. I don't remember if it was abused, probably was, but not to a large extent. For general use it was too clumsy afaik. Anyway, I'm very much for such a weapon, with only 1 counter and that's the pike. Perhaps it should be hard to aim, and nigh-on impossible to use unless on cavalry friendly plain.
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fucking newbs show some respect.
M'lady i must say the LoC is a very silly weapon. You really are better off taking a heavy lance.
Silly? I beg you pardon. Not for the charge, the Lance of Greatness is the prefered choice for a hit into the enemy formation en masse!
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+1
Who the fuck are you anyway Dezilagel? never heard of you
He is 11 days old on the forums, hence why.
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'The phuck are you anyway? O.o
doesn't matter who she/he is; comments like this aren't needed
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it is pretty silly that non armored cav is useless against archers as cav was the historical and traditional counter to them
horses should get a sprint function made for short dash attacks against targets instead of running at full speed all the time
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That's actually quite a good idea. Giving them the spurs should increase their speed and decrease their manoeuverability for a short while...
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I apoligize for my post, I was in a state of grumpiness at that time and the original intention of the post was not to be flaming you, merely to show disagreement. :oops: I'm sorry (both for the flaming and lack of arguments), not that you care probably :wink:
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Who the fuck are you anyway Dezilagel? never heard of you. (FYI Rosewood created and led the first major guild in cRPG, I reckon the lady just had a break and came back. Go and be ashamed of your ignorance.)
I will
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On topic:
With the current state of cavalry (very maneuvearble, lacking predators), adding the LoC would probably result in mass abuse (just look at the heavy lance now), aleast on the normal servers. For strategus it would possibly make more sense (and look very cool I reckon), but it just doesn't feel needed (as cav has both heavy and great lance).
That's actually quite a good idea. Giving them the spurs should increase their speed and decrease their manoeuverability for a short while...
Agreed, would make cav feel more like riding a horse and not a go-kart :p
(For more cav-related discussion, check out http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,4970.0.html (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,4970.0.html) this topic. Would be really cool to get further debate going)